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* ''Fanfic/CodeGrid'': Both the Lyoko Warriors and ENCOM make a point of keeping their respective [[InsideAComputerSystem virtual worlds]] a secret from others. The masquerade breaks when Keeva, [[SpinOffspring Sam and Quora's daugther]], is made the sixth member of the group, though she hasn't yet told the rest of ENCOM about this.
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* ''Fanfic/CodeGrid'': Both the Lyoko Warriors and ENCOM make a point of keeping their respective [[InsideAComputerSystem virtual worlds]] a secret from others. The masquerade breaks when Keeva, [[SpinOffspring Sam and Quora's daugther]], daughter]], is made the sixth member of the group, though she hasn't yet told the rest of ENCOM about this.this.
* ''Fanfic/EqualAndOppositeAttraction'': The TSAB strive to conceal any trace of their presence while they're studying Earth, unaware of the mages already living there. Over time, the masquerade fractures more and more.
* In ''Fanfic/AnExtraordinaryJourney'', the BPRI deals with supernatural problems while the SGC and Homeworld Security handle anything related to extraterristrial affairs. While the poeple at the very top of each organization are aware of the others, and they do help each other out to a small extent, the rank and file are largely kept in the dark.
** This also proves to be a huge problem during the whole Slayer Council fiasco, as [[spoiler:Willow is tortured by ''her own friends'' until she magically severs her own vocal cords to avoid revealing all the classified information she knows]].
* ''Fanfic/EqualAndOppositeAttraction'': The TSAB strive to conceal any trace of their presence while they're studying Earth, unaware of the mages already living there. Over time, the masquerade fractures more and more.
* In ''Fanfic/AnExtraordinaryJourney'', the BPRI deals with supernatural problems while the SGC and Homeworld Security handle anything related to extraterristrial affairs. While the poeple at the very top of each organization are aware of the others, and they do help each other out to a small extent, the rank and file are largely kept in the dark.
** This also proves to be a huge problem during the whole Slayer Council fiasco, as [[spoiler:Willow is tortured by ''her own friends'' until she magically severs her own vocal cords to avoid revealing all the classified information she knows]].
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* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''Fanfic/LadyLuckMiraculousLadybug''; it turns out that the {{Glamour}} protecting the secret identities of Miraculous users doesn't work when ChildhoodFriends Chloé and Adrien are able to hear each other speaking ''before'' seeing each other transformed.
-->'''Tikki:''' I think that's a record.\\
'''Plagg:''' It is. The previous record was that married couple about a century ago. They lasted a week. This pair couldn't even last two days.
-->'''Tikki:''' I think that's a record.\\
'''Plagg:''' It is. The previous record was that married couple about a century ago. They lasted a week. This pair couldn't even last two days.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'': In the episode "Fairy Fairy Quite Contrary", Timmy Turner notices that a rich classmate, Remy Buxaplenty, is at the center of some very suspicious events. Timmy decides to spy on him to figure out what's going on and discovers that he also has fairy godparents (well, a fair godparent). When Timmy asks Cosmo and Wanda why they didn't clue him in, the fairies reply that it's against Da Rules for fairies to tell their godchildren about other children with fairies. They have to figure it out on their own.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'': In the episode "Fairy Fairy Quite Contrary", Timmy Turner notices that a rich classmate, Remy Buxaplenty, is at the center of some very suspicious events. Timmy decides to spy on him to figure out what's going on and discovers that he also has fairy godparents (well, a fair godparent).fairy godparent, who also happens to be Wanda's ex-boyfriend). When Timmy asks Cosmo and Wanda why they didn't clue him in, the fairies reply that it's against Da Rules for fairies to tell their godchildren about other children with fairies. They have to figure it out on their own.
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Due to the very nature of TheMasquerade, one of the toughest things about it is finding other people who are also in on the Masquerade. This is [[JustifiedTrope justified]] since it wouldn't be very good form to go around asking everyone you meet if they know that there's a secret society of aliens or magical creatures living among normal people. If everyone does their job right, everyone in on the masquerade should appear like ordinary {{Muggles}} ... ''even to each other''. This trope can lead to some really magnificent misunderstandings, especially in romance situations, and the most obvious sign is when you find yourself thinking "Now if they'd just been honest with each other, we could have avoided a lot of trouble here."
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Due to the very nature of TheMasquerade, one of the toughest things about it is finding other people who are also in on the Masquerade. This is[[JustifiedTrope justified]] {{Justified|Trope}} since it wouldn't be very good form to go around asking everyone you meet if they know that there's a secret society of aliens or magical creatures living among normal people. If everyone does their job right, everyone in on the masquerade should appear like ordinary {{Muggles}} ... ''even to each other''. This trope can lead to some really magnificent misunderstandings, especially in romance situations, and the most obvious sign is when you find yourself thinking "Now if they'd just been honest with each other, we could have avoided a lot of trouble here."
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Due to the very nature of TheMasquerade, one of the toughest things about it is finding other people who are also in on the Masquerade. This is
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---> '''Anya:''' Somebody's drowning in the pool!\\
'''Loid:''' (''AlertnessBlink'') [[HowIsThatEvenPossible How could you know that?!]] What are you?!\\
'''Anya:''' (''cue WideEyesAndShrunkenIrises at the idea of Loid possibly viewing her as a monster if she revealed her {{Telepathy}}'')
'''Loid:''' (''AlertnessBlink'') [[HowIsThatEvenPossible How could you know that?!]] What are you?!\\
'''Anya:''' (''cue WideEyesAndShrunkenIrises at the idea of Loid possibly viewing her as a monster if she revealed her {{Telepathy}}'')
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Chronin}}'', both Mirai and Gilbert are time travelers from [[TwentyMinutesInTheFuture the not too distant future]] (Mirai is from the 2040s, Gilbert the 2050s), who are [[TrappedInThePast stuck in 1860s Japan]]. For awhile they both keep up the pretense of being a normal person from that era as they travel together, with Mirai posing as a {{Ronin}}, and Gilbert as an English businessman trading in Japan.
* The ''ComicBook/DisneyMouseAndDuckComics'' have some fun with this in their superhero stories, as the various heroes all know each other in their civilian identities but most secret identities are unknown,[[note]]Donald knows that Fethry is the Red Bat, and so Fethry's girlfriend Gloria (herself a superhero as the Purple Butterfly). The latter was ''supposed'' to wipe her memory of his secret, but decided not to [[GenreSavvy because she knew that Fethry would need her help to get himself out of trouble]][[/note]] leading to multiple shenanigans-especially because Paperinik (AKA Donald) is prone to [[LaserGuidedAmnesia wipe the knowledge of his identity from the memories of anyone who stumbles on it]]. Most notable (and funny) is [[DependingOnTheWriter when the authors remember that Daisy has one]], as in those stories her and Donald hate but grudgingly respect each other's alter ego-and [[BelligerentSexualTension are also attracted to each other, much to their mutual horror]] (sometimes it's hinted that they've actually guessed each other's identity multiple times, only to forget through sheer denial).
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* The ComicBook/DisneyMouseAndDuckComics have some fun with this in their superhero stories, as the various heroes all know each other in their civilian identities but most secret identities are unknown,[[note]]Donald knows that Fethry is the Red Bat, and so Fethry's girlfriend Gloria (herself a superhero as the Purple Butterfly). The latter was ''supposed'' to wipe her memory of his secret, but decided not to [[GenreSavvy because she knew that Fethry would need her help to get himself out of trouble]][[/note]] leading to multiple shenanigans-especially because Paperinik (AKA Donald) is prone to [[LaserGuidedAmnesia wipe the knowledge of his identity from the memories of anyone who stumbles on it]]. Most notable (and funny) is [[DependingOnTheWriter when the authors remember that Daisy has one]], as in those stories her and Donald hate but grudgingly respect each other's alter ego-and [[BelligerentSexualTension are also attracted to each other, much to their mutual horror]] (sometimes it's hinted that they've actually guessed each other's identity multiple times, only to forget through sheer denial).
* In ''ComicBook/{{Chronin}}'', both Mirai and Gilbert are time travelers from [[TwentyMinutesInTheFuture the not too distant future]] (Mirai is from the 2040s, Gilbert the 2050s), who are [[TrappedInThePast stuck in 1860s Japan]]. For awhile they both keep up the pretense of being a normal person from that era as they travel together, with Mirai posing as a {{Ronin}}, and Gilbert as an English businessman trading in Japan.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Chronin}}'', both Mirai and Gilbert are time travelers from [[TwentyMinutesInTheFuture the not too distant future]] (Mirai is from the 2040s, Gilbert the 2050s), who are [[TrappedInThePast stuck in 1860s Japan]]. For awhile they both keep up the pretense of being a normal person from that era as they travel together, with Mirai posing as a {{Ronin}}, and Gilbert as an English businessman trading in Japan.
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--> He exhaled, thankful he wouldn't need to muster up a convincing argument. They'd go after the rat. They'd get the rat. Then he would get rid of her, well before she would expect betrayal. She thought ''Harry'' was his prize, and that he needed her to get to him. Neither was true.\\
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* ''Literature/TheManWhoWasThursday'': The protagonist is recruited as a secret agent so secret that none of the agents know who any of the other agents are. There are several moments later in the book when he discovers that some person he was suspicious of is actually one of his colleagues (and was, equally unknowing, just as suspicious of him).
* ''[[Literature/{{Discworld}} Monstrous Regiment]]'': Polly [[SweetPollyOliver pretends to be a boy called Ollie in order to join the army]], then starts discovering one by one that the other members of her regiment are also girls disguised as boys...
* Louis' first introduction to Armand in ''Literature/InterviewWithTheVampire''.
* ''[[Literature/{{Discworld}} Monstrous Regiment]]'': Polly [[SweetPollyOliver pretends to be a boy called Ollie in order to join the army]], then starts discovering one by one that the other members of her regiment are also girls disguised as boys...
* Louis' first introduction to Armand in ''Literature/InterviewWithTheVampire''.
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* ''Literature/TheManWhoWasThursday'': ''Literature/DanilovQuintet'': vampires have to hide themselves from human society. The protagonist is recruited as a secret agent so secret that none of the agents know who any of the other agents are. There are several moments later in the book when he discovers that some person the "mercenaries" his friend hired are in fact vampires. [[spoiler:Later, he was suspicious of is actually shocked to find out one of his colleagues (and was, equally unknowing, just as suspicious of him).
* ''[[Literature/{{Discworld}} Monstrous Regiment]]'': Polly [[SweetPollyOliver pretends to be a boy called Ollie in order to jointhe army]], then starts discovering one by one that vampires ''isn't''. So the villain could move about in the daylight... OhCrap. Furthermore, said character had fooled the other members vampires into thinking he's one of her regiment are also girls disguised as boys...
* Louis' first introduction to Armand in ''Literature/InterviewWithTheVampire''.them. It helped that the vampires weren't particularly strong.]]
* ''[[Literature/{{Discworld}} Monstrous Regiment]]'': Polly [[SweetPollyOliver pretends to be a boy called Ollie in order to join
* Louis' first introduction to Armand in ''Literature/InterviewWithTheVampire''.
* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': In ''Literature/MonstrousRegiment'', Polly [[SweetPollyOliver pretends to be a boy called Ollie in order to join the army]], then starts discovering one by one that the other members of her regiment are also girls disguised as boys...
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* L.J. Smith's ''Literature/NightWorld'' series had a book called "Secret Vampire" that centered around vampire James Rasmussen and his mortal girlfriend Poppy. Poppy is terminally ill, so James reveals himself to her as a vampire and turns her in order to save her life. James has broken the second of two major laws in the Night World: Never tell a mortal about the Night World. (The first is "Never fall in love with a mortal" and he'd already broken that one.) At the end of the book, however, it turns out that, unbeknownst to both him and Poppy, [[spoiler: she was really descended from witches and therefore was a member of the Night World, not a mortal.]]
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* Louis' first introduction to Armand in ''Literature/InterviewWithTheVampire''.
* While most elements of the Masquerade avoid this in ''Literature/TheLaundryFiles'', vampires are an exception as they're trying to remain secret even ''within'' it. As explained, if a vampire can recognize somebody else as a vampire, clearly the second vampire's very existence threatens to reveal vampires are real, and so the only reason why vampires communicate is if they haven't yet worked out their plans for killing each other. This fades rapidly after their introduction to the series (after the inevitable finally happens and a plan for killing another vampire involves threatening the Masquerade to force him to expose himself, the plan going bad on both sides).
* ''Literature/TheManWhoWasThursday'': The protagonist is recruited as a secret agent so secret that none of the agents know who any of the other agents are. There are several moments later in the book when he discovers that some person he was suspicious of is actually one of his colleagues (and was, equally unknowing, just as suspicious of him).
* L.J. Smith's ''Literature/NightWorld'' series had a book called"Secret Vampire" ''Secret Vampire'' that centered around vampire James Rasmussen and his mortal girlfriend Poppy. Poppy is terminally ill, so James reveals himself to her as a vampire and turns her in order to save her life. James has broken the second of two major laws in the Night World: Never tell a mortal about the Night World. (The first is "Never fall in love with a mortal" and he'd already broken that one.) At the end of the book, however, it turns out that, unbeknownst to both him and Poppy, [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she was really descended from witches and therefore was a member of the Night World, not a mortal.]]mortal]].
* In ''Literature/TheSecretsOfTheImmortalNicholasFlamel'', Josh and Sophie understandably try to cover up what's going on (the short version is that they're helping Nicholas Flamel stop people from bringing about the end of the world) from their parents and aunt, who they think are ordinary people, and who they fear will GoMadFromTheRevelation. The fifth book reveals first that their aunt is a powerful immortal called She Who Watches, then that their parents are none other than ''Isis and Osiris''.
* While most elements of the Masquerade avoid this in ''Literature/TheLaundryFiles'', vampires are an exception as they're trying to remain secret even ''within'' it. As explained, if a vampire can recognize somebody else as a vampire, clearly the second vampire's very existence threatens to reveal vampires are real, and so the only reason why vampires communicate is if they haven't yet worked out their plans for killing each other. This fades rapidly after their introduction to the series (after the inevitable finally happens and a plan for killing another vampire involves threatening the Masquerade to force him to expose himself, the plan going bad on both sides).
* ''Literature/TheManWhoWasThursday'': The protagonist is recruited as a secret agent so secret that none of the agents know who any of the other agents are. There are several moments later in the book when he discovers that some person he was suspicious of is actually one of his colleagues (and was, equally unknowing, just as suspicious of him).
* L.J. Smith's ''Literature/NightWorld'' series had a book called
* In ''Literature/TheSecretsOfTheImmortalNicholasFlamel'', Josh and Sophie understandably try to cover up what's going on (the short version is that they're helping Nicholas Flamel stop people from bringing about the end of the world) from their parents and aunt, who they think are ordinary people, and who they fear will GoMadFromTheRevelation. The fifth book reveals first that their aunt is a powerful immortal called She Who Watches, then that their parents are none other than ''Isis and Osiris''.
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* ''Literature/DanilovQuintet'': vampires have to hide themselves from human society. The protagonist discovers that the "mercenaries" his friend hired are in fact vampires. [[spoiler: Later, he is shocked to find out one of the vampires ''isn't''. So the villain could move about in the daylight ... OhCrap. Furthermore, said character had fooled the other vampires into thinking he's one of them. It helped that the vampires weren't particularly strong.]]
* In ''Literature/TheSecretsOfTheImmortalNicholasFlamel'', Josh and Sophie understandably try to cover up what's going on (the short version is that they're helping Nicholas Flamel stop people from bringing about the end of the world) from their parents and aunt, who they think are ordinary people, and who they fear will GoMadFromTheRevelation. The fifth book reveals first that their aunt is a powerful immortal called She Who Watches, then that their parents are none other than ''Isis and Osiris''.
* While most elements of the Masquerade avoid this in ''Literature/TheLaundryFiles'', vampires are an exception as they're trying to remain secret even ''within'' it. As explained, if a vampire can recognize somebody else as a vampire, clearly the second vampire's very existence threatens to reveal vampires are real, and so the only reason why vampires communicate is if they haven't yet worked out their plans for killing each other. This fades rapidly after their introduction to the series (after the inevitable finally happens and a plan for killing another vampire involves threatening the Masquerade to force him to expose himself, the plan going bad on both sides).
* In ''Literature/TheSecretsOfTheImmortalNicholasFlamel'', Josh and Sophie understandably try to cover up what's going on (the short version is that they're helping Nicholas Flamel stop people from bringing about the end of the world) from their parents and aunt, who they think are ordinary people, and who they fear will GoMadFromTheRevelation. The fifth book reveals first that their aunt is a powerful immortal called She Who Watches, then that their parents are none other than ''Isis and Osiris''.
* While most elements of the Masquerade avoid this in ''Literature/TheLaundryFiles'', vampires are an exception as they're trying to remain secret even ''within'' it. As explained, if a vampire can recognize somebody else as a vampire, clearly the second vampire's very existence threatens to reveal vampires are real, and so the only reason why vampires communicate is if they haven't yet worked out their plans for killing each other. This fades rapidly after their introduction to the series (after the inevitable finally happens and a plan for killing another vampire involves threatening the Masquerade to force him to expose himself, the plan going bad on both sides).
* ''Series/AmazingStories'': [[Recap/AmazingStories1985S2E20MovingDay "Moving Day"]]: The episode featured the tale of a high-school-age boy whose parents revealed to him that a) they were actually alien scientists who came to Earth to study the "primitive culture" and b) their mission was over so they were returning home. The boy regretfully says goodbye to his High School sweetheart, lying to her about his dad getting a new job in a new city and them all moving away. On the spaceship, just before launch, he finds his girlfriend. Turns out ''her'' parents were also alien scientists, and that they are '''all''' going home.
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* ''Series/AmazingStories'': [[Recap/AmazingStories1985S2E20MovingDay "Moving Day"]]: The episode featured the tale of a high-school-age boy whose parents revealed to him that a) they were actually alien scientists who came to Earth to study the "primitive culture" and b) their mission was over so they were returning home. The boy regretfully says goodbye to his High School sweetheart, lying to her about his dad getting a new job in a new city and them all moving away. On the spaceship, just before launch, he finds his girlfriend. Turns out ''her'' parents were also alien scientists, and that they are '''all''' going home.
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* ''Series/AmazingStories'': [[Recap/AmazingStories1985S2E20MovingDay "Moving Day"]]: The episode featured ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** In season 4, thetale Initiative are vaguely aware of a high-school-age boy whose parents revealed to him that a) they were actually alien scientists who came to Earth to study the "primitive culture" Slayer as a myth, but have no idea she a) really exists and b) their mission was over so they were returning home. The boy regretfully says goodbye to his High School sweetheart, lying to her about his dad getting a new job in a new city and them all moving away. On the spaceship, just before launch, he finds his girlfriend. Turns out ''her'' parents were also alien scientists, and is Buffy, while Buffy has no idea that her new boyfriend and one of her college professors are part of a military operation to do what destiny has decided is supposed to be her job.
** In season 7, Buffy has no idea that Principal Wood already knows who she is, or even that Wood knows of the existence of vampires. In turn, Wood is left unaware that the vampire in the basement of the high school is the same one who killed his mother.
* ''Series/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina'' has one of these between Hilda and [[spoiler:Doctor Cerberus]], who's secretly [[spoiler:possessed by an incubus]] and unaware Hilda is a witch. Once his secret comes out she's perfectly accepting, revealing her own and applying her knowledge to help him manage his "condition".
* In the first season of ''Series/Daredevil2015'', the secretive and ruthless American crime lord [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] coordinates his empire with a number of different ethnic gangs, including a Chinese faction led by mysterious Madame Gao, a Japanese one led by the AmbiguouslyHuman Nobu, a pair of Russian brothers [[TheMafiya whose gang]] run street level affairs for the Empire, and then there's Fisk's semi-independent money manager Leland Owlsley. Meetings between the factions rely on Fisk's employee and translator James Wesley in order to function. It eventually turns out that nearly everyone there has at least some degree of proficiency in each other's languages, (Madame Gao speaks English perfectly well albeit with a heavy accent, and claims that [[{{Omniglot}} she speaks all languages]], Nobu's English is imperfect but he can speak enough to get by and be understood, as can the Russians although they are'''all''' going home.far more comfortable in their native language, and Fisk can at least speak Mandarin and Japanese, although again not perfectly) and several of them (particularly Fisk and Gao) are ObfuscatingStupidity with their different partners. The only one who is totally left out is Owlsley, who speaks only English.
** In season 4, the
** In season 7, Buffy has no idea that Principal Wood already knows who she is, or even that Wood knows of the existence of vampires. In turn, Wood is left unaware that the vampire in the basement of the high school is the same one who killed his mother.
* ''Series/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina'' has one of these between Hilda and [[spoiler:Doctor Cerberus]], who's secretly [[spoiler:possessed by an incubus]] and unaware Hilda is a witch. Once his secret comes out she's perfectly accepting, revealing her own and applying her knowledge to help him manage his "condition".
* In the first season of ''Series/Daredevil2015'', the secretive and ruthless American crime lord [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] coordinates his empire with a number of different ethnic gangs, including a Chinese faction led by mysterious Madame Gao, a Japanese one led by the AmbiguouslyHuman Nobu, a pair of Russian brothers [[TheMafiya whose gang]] run street level affairs for the Empire, and then there's Fisk's semi-independent money manager Leland Owlsley. Meetings between the factions rely on Fisk's employee and translator James Wesley in order to function. It eventually turns out that nearly everyone there has at least some degree of proficiency in each other's languages, (Madame Gao speaks English perfectly well albeit with a heavy accent, and claims that [[{{Omniglot}} she speaks all languages]], Nobu's English is imperfect but he can speak enough to get by and be understood, as can the Russians although they are
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''
** In season 4, the Initiative are vaguely aware of the Slayer as a myth, but have no idea she a) really exists and b) is Buffy, while Buffy has no idea that her new boyfriend and one of her college professors are part of a military operation to do what destiny has decided is supposed to be her job.
** In season 7, Buffy has no idea that Principal Wood already knows who she is, or even that Wood knows of the existence of vampires. In turn, Wood is left unaware that the vampire in the basement of the high school is the same one who killed his mother.
** In season 4, the Initiative are vaguely aware of the Slayer as a myth, but have no idea she a) really exists and b) is Buffy, while Buffy has no idea that her new boyfriend and one of her college professors are part of a military operation to do what destiny has decided is supposed to be her job.
** In season 7, Buffy has no idea that Principal Wood already knows who she is, or even that Wood knows of the existence of vampires. In turn, Wood is left unaware that the vampire in the basement of the high school is the same one who killed his mother.
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* ''Series/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina'' has one of these between Hilda and [[spoiler: Doctor Cerberus]], who's secretly [[spoiler: possessed by an incubus]] and unaware Hilda is a witch. Once his secret comes out she's perfectly accepting, revealing her own and applying her knowledge to help him manage his "condition".
* In the first season of ''[[Series/Daredevil2015 Daredevil]]'', the secretive and ruthless American crime lord [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] coordinates his empire with a number of different ethnic gangs, including a Chinese faction led by mysterious Madame Gao, a Japanese one led by the AmbiguouslyHuman Nobu, a pair of Russian brothers [[TheMafiya whose gang]] run street level affairs for the Empire, and then there's Fisk's semi-independent money manager Leland Owlsley. Meetings between the factions rely on Fisk's employee and translator James Wesley in order to function. It eventually turns out that nearly everyone there has at least some degree of proficiency in each other's languages, (Madame Gao speaks English perfectly well albeit with a heavy accent, and claims that [[{{Omniglot}} she speaks all languages]], Nobu's English is imperfect but he can speak enough to get by and be understood, as can the Russians although they are far more comfortable in their native language, and Fisk can at least speak Mandarin and Japanese, although again not perfectly) and several of them (particularly Fisk and Gao) are ObfuscatingStupidity with their different partners. The only one who is totally left out is Owlsley, who speaks only English.
* In the first season of ''[[Series/Daredevil2015 Daredevil]]'', the secretive and ruthless American crime lord [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] coordinates his empire with a number of different ethnic gangs, including a Chinese faction led by mysterious Madame Gao, a Japanese one led by the AmbiguouslyHuman Nobu, a pair of Russian brothers [[TheMafiya whose gang]] run street level affairs for the Empire, and then there's Fisk's semi-independent money manager Leland Owlsley. Meetings between the factions rely on Fisk's employee and translator James Wesley in order to function. It eventually turns out that nearly everyone there has at least some degree of proficiency in each other's languages, (Madame Gao speaks English perfectly well albeit with a heavy accent, and claims that [[{{Omniglot}} she speaks all languages]], Nobu's English is imperfect but he can speak enough to get by and be understood, as can the Russians although they are far more comfortable in their native language, and Fisk can at least speak Mandarin and Japanese, although again not perfectly) and several of them (particularly Fisk and Gao) are ObfuscatingStupidity with their different partners. The only one who is totally left out is Owlsley, who speaks only English.
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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''
** Quoth one high-ranked member of TheMenInBlack, [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-05-09 "the accessibility of magic has always been the real secret."]] So there's a lot of magic users who have no clue about each other and lose time in otherwise trivial cases. Such as when a wizard's apprentice Noah was trying for days to investigate a magical incident, and since he couldn't tell what it's about and had zero diplomatic skills, he was forced to [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-02-16 go the roundabout way through Elliot]] without telling him anything. Elliot himself being a full-fledged magic-user and knowing about the wizard but not Noah and working with another investigator connected to TheMenInBlack. By the time he got to his witness (yet another magic user who by this time had a good idea what's going on, but wasn't going to tell Noah anyway), the delay allowed [[spoiler:the follow-up incident, which loudly finished off already damaged {{Masquerade}}]].
** [[spoiler: Later on, the ''The Secret Of Sam'' arc puts Grace at the crux of a similar situation. She knows that Sam is FTM transgender, has a magic mark that allows him to switch to male or back to female, and doesn't want to reveal this to Sarah (who he has only met either as or while pretending to be a biological male) for fear of her reaction. Grace also knows that Sarah loves transformation magic and is friends with multiple people who switch genders on a regular basis, but she can't tell Sam this without betraying her friends' secrets, and she can't ask for permission or explain the situation to Sarah without betraying ''Sam's'' secrets.]]
** Quoth one high-ranked member of TheMenInBlack, [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-05-09 "the accessibility of magic has always been the real secret."]] So there's a lot of magic users who have no clue about each other and lose time in otherwise trivial cases. Such as when a wizard's apprentice Noah was trying for days to investigate a magical incident, and since he couldn't tell what it's about and had zero diplomatic skills, he was forced to [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-02-16 go the roundabout way through Elliot]] without telling him anything. Elliot himself being a full-fledged magic-user and knowing about the wizard but not Noah and working with another investigator connected to TheMenInBlack. By the time he got to his witness (yet another magic user who by this time had a good idea what's going on, but wasn't going to tell Noah anyway), the delay allowed [[spoiler:the follow-up incident, which loudly finished off already damaged {{Masquerade}}]].
** [[spoiler: Later on, the ''The Secret Of Sam'' arc puts Grace at the crux of a similar situation. She knows that Sam is FTM transgender, has a magic mark that allows him to switch to male or back to female, and doesn't want to reveal this to Sarah (who he has only met either as or while pretending to be a biological male) for fear of her reaction. Grace also knows that Sarah loves transformation magic and is friends with multiple people who switch genders on a regular basis, but she can't tell Sam this without betraying her friends' secrets, and she can't ask for permission or explain the situation to Sarah without betraying ''Sam's'' secrets.]]
* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'':
** Quoth one high-ranked member of TheMenInBlack, [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-05-09 "the accessibility of magic has always been the real secret."]] So there's a lot of magic users who have no clue about each other and lose time in otherwise trivial cases. Such as when a wizard's apprentice Noah was trying for days to investigate a magical incident, and since he couldn't tell what it's about and had zero diplomatic skills, he was forced to [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-02-16 go the roundabout way through Elliot]] without telling him anything. Elliot himself being a full-fledged magic-user and knowing about the wizard but not Noah and working with another investigator connected to TheMenInBlack. By the time he got to his witness (yet another magic user who by this time had a good idea what's going on, but wasn't going to tell Noah anyway), the delay allowed [[spoiler:the follow-up incident, which loudly finished off already damaged {{Masquerade}}]].
** Later on, the ''The Secret Of Sam'' arc puts [[spoiler:Grace]] at the crux of a similar situation. She knows that Sam is FTM transgender, has a magic mark that allows him to switch to male or back to female, and doesn't want to reveal this to Sarah (who he has only met either as or while pretending to be a biological male) for fear of her reaction. [[spoiler:Grace also knows that Sarah loves transformation magic and is friends with multiple people who switch genders on a regular basis, but she can't tell Sam this without betraying her friends' secrets, and she can't ask for permission or explain the situation to Sarah without betraying ''Sam's'' secrets.]]
** Quoth one high-ranked member of TheMenInBlack, [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-05-09 "the accessibility of magic has always been the real secret."]] So there's a lot of magic users who have no clue about each other and lose time in otherwise trivial cases. Such as when a wizard's apprentice Noah was trying for days to investigate a magical incident, and since he couldn't tell what it's about and had zero diplomatic skills, he was forced to [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-02-16 go the roundabout way through Elliot]] without telling him anything. Elliot himself being a full-fledged magic-user and knowing about the wizard but not Noah and working with another investigator connected to TheMenInBlack. By the time he got to his witness (yet another magic user who by this time had a good idea what's going on, but wasn't going to tell Noah anyway), the delay allowed [[spoiler:the follow-up incident, which loudly finished off already damaged {{Masquerade}}]].
** Later on, the ''The Secret Of Sam'' arc puts [[spoiler:Grace]] at the crux of a similar situation. She knows that Sam is FTM transgender, has a magic mark that allows him to switch to male or back to female, and doesn't want to reveal this to Sarah (who he has only met either as or while pretending to be a biological male) for fear of her reaction. [[spoiler:Grace also knows that Sarah loves transformation magic and is friends with multiple people who switch genders on a regular basis, but she can't tell Sam this without betraying her friends' secrets, and she can't ask for permission or explain the situation to Sarah without betraying ''Sam's'' secrets.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'': In the episode "Fairy Fairy Quite Contrary", Timmy Turner notices that a rich classmate, Remy Buxaplenty, is at the center of some very suspicious events. Timmy decides to spy on him to figure out what's going on and discovers that he also has fairy godparents (well, a fair godparent). When Timmy asks Cosmo and Wanda why they didn't clue him in, the fairies reply that it's against Da Rules for fairies to tell their godchildren about other children with fairies. They have to figure it out on their own.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'': In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'': Jake is secretly a dragon and protector of New York City's magical community. His crush Rose is secretly Huntsgirl, a high-ranked member of an organization dedicated to killing magical creatures. This leads to situations like the episode "Fairy Fairy Quite Contrary", Timmy Turner notices that two of them each ducking out of a rich classmate, Remy Buxaplenty, study date with a [[INeedToGoIronMyDog paper-thin excuse]] so they can fight... each other. Jake is at the center of some very suspicious events. Timmy decides first to spy on him to figure out realize what's going on after a fight ends with him realizing Rose and discovers that he also has fairy godparents (well, a fair godparent). When Timmy asks Cosmo Huntsgirl share the same distinctive birth mark, and Wanda why he begrudgingly reveals his identity to her in the season one finale. [[spoiler:She breaks up with him, but they didn't clue him in, get back together early the fairies reply that it's against Da Rules for fairies following season to tell their godchildren about other children with fairies. They have to figure try and make it out on their own.work.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/ZorroGenerationZ'': Diego and Maria have no idea of their counterparts being Zorro and the Scarlet Whip, [[spoiler:until the last episode.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The two main characters Marinette and Adrien have no idea that the other is their superhero partner. This causes [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle some complications]] in their romantic lives: Marinette loves Adrien, who thinks she's a good friend and has no idea how she feels. Cat Noir loves Ladybug, but she's endlessly annoyed by his constant flirting. The whole mess could easily be solved if they unmasked in front of each other, but their respective Kwamis have both firmly informed them that their secret identities ''must'' remain secret, even from each other. On top of all that, the two are constantly battling the minions of the evil Hawk Moth, who is in fact [[spoiler: Adrien's ''father'']]. The episodes ''Cat Blanc'' and ''Ephemeral'' hammer home the idea that if Adrien and Marinette were to reveal their identities to each other, the change in their behaviors both in and out of costume that would result would lead to Hawk Moth figuring everything out in short order (because [[spoiler:Adrien lives with him]]) and using it against them.
* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'': Jake is secretly a dragon and protector of New York City's magical community. His crush Rose is secretly Huntsgirl, a high-ranked member of an organization dedicated to killing magical creatures. This leads to situations like the two of them each ducking out of a study date with a [[INeedToGoIronMyDog paper-thin excuse]] so they can fight... each other. Jake is the first to realize what's going on after a fight ends with him realizing Rose and Huntsgirl share the same distinctive birth mark, and he begrudgingly reveals his identity to her in the season one finale. [[spoiler:She breaks up with him, but they get back together early the following season to try and make it work.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The two main characters Marinette and Adrien have no idea that the other is their superhero partner. This causes [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle some complications]] in their romantic lives: Marinette loves Adrien, who thinks she's a good friend and has no idea how she feels. Cat Noir loves Ladybug, but she's endlessly annoyed by his constant flirting. The whole mess could easily be solved if they unmasked in front of each other, but their respective Kwamis have both firmly informed them that their secret identities ''must'' remain secret, even from each other. On top of all that, the two are constantly battling the minions of the evil Hawk Moth, who is in fact [[spoiler: Adrien's ''father'']]. The episodes ''Cat Blanc'' and ''Ephemeral'' hammer home the idea that if Adrien and Marinette were to reveal their identities to each other, the change in their behaviors both in and out of costume that would result would lead to Hawk Moth figuring everything out in short order (because [[spoiler:Adrien lives with him]]) and using it against them.
* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'': Jake is secretly a dragon and protector of New York City's magical community. His crush Rose is secretly Huntsgirl, a high-ranked member of an organization dedicated to killing magical creatures. This leads to situations like the two of them each ducking out of a study date with a [[INeedToGoIronMyDog paper-thin excuse]] so they can fight... each other. Jake is the first to realize what's going on after a fight ends with him realizing Rose and Huntsgirl share the same distinctive birth mark, and he begrudgingly reveals his identity to her in the season one finale. [[spoiler:She breaks up with him, but they get back together early the following season to try and make it work.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/ZorroGenerationZ'': Diego ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'': In the episode "Fairy Fairy Quite Contrary", Timmy Turner notices that a rich classmate, Remy Buxaplenty, is at the center of some very suspicious events. Timmy decides to spy on him to figure out what's going on and Maria have no idea of discovers that he also has fairy godparents (well, a fair godparent). When Timmy asks Cosmo and Wanda why they didn't clue him in, the fairies reply that it's against Da Rules for fairies to tell their counterparts being Zorro and the Scarlet Whip, [[spoiler:until the last episode.]]
godchildren about other children with fairies. They have to figure it out on their own.
* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The two main characters Marinette and Adrien have no idea that the other is their superhero partner. This causes [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle some complications]] in their romantic lives: Marinette loves Adrien, who thinks she's a good friend and has no idea how she feels. Cat Noir loves Ladybug, but she's endlessly annoyed by his constant flirting. The whole mess could easily be solved if they unmasked in front of each other, but their respective Kwamis have both firmly informed them that their secret identities ''must'' remain secret, even from each other. On top of all that, the two are constantly battling the minions of the evil Hawk Moth, who is in fact[[spoiler: Adrien's [[spoiler:Adrien's ''father'']]. The episodes ''Cat Blanc'' and ''Ephemeral'' hammer home the idea that if Adrien and Marinette were to reveal their identities to each other, the change in their behaviors both in and out of costume that would result would lead to Hawk Moth figuring everything out in short order (because [[spoiler:Adrien lives with him]]) and using it against them.
*''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'': Jake is secretly a dragon ''WesternAnimation/ZorroGenerationZ'': Diego and protector Maria have no idea of New York City's magical community. His crush Rose is secretly Huntsgirl, a high-ranked member of an organization dedicated to killing magical creatures. This leads to situations like their counterparts being Zorro and the two of them each ducking out of a study date with a [[INeedToGoIronMyDog paper-thin excuse]] so they can fight... each other. Jake is Scarlet Whip, [[spoiler:until the first to realize what's going on after a fight ends with him realizing Rose and Huntsgirl share the same distinctive birth mark, and he begrudgingly reveals his identity to her in the season one finale. [[spoiler:She breaks up with him, but they get back together early the following season to try and make it work.]]last episode]].
* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The two main characters Marinette and Adrien have no idea that the other is their superhero partner. This causes [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle some complications]] in their romantic lives: Marinette loves Adrien, who thinks she's a good friend and has no idea how she feels. Cat Noir loves Ladybug, but she's endlessly annoyed by his constant flirting. The whole mess could easily be solved if they unmasked in front of each other, but their respective Kwamis have both firmly informed them that their secret identities ''must'' remain secret, even from each other. On top of all that, the two are constantly battling the minions of the evil Hawk Moth, who is in fact
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* In the first season of ''[[Series/Daredevil2015 Daredevil]]'', the secretive and ruthless American crime lord [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] coordinates his empire with a number of different ethnic gangs, including a Chinese faction led by mysterious Madame Gao, a Japanese one led by the AmbiguouslyHuman Nobu, a pair of Russian brothers [[TheMafiya whose gang]] run street level affairs for the Empire, and then there's Fisk's semi-independent money manager Leland Owlsley. Meetings between the factions rely on Fisk's employee and translator James Wesley in order to function. It eventually turns out that nearly everyone there has at least some degree of proficiency in each other's languages, (Madame Gao speaks English perfectly well albeit with a heavy accent, and claims that [[{{Omniglot}} she speaks all languages]], Nobu's English is imperfect but he can speak enough to get by and be understood, as can the Russians although they are far more comfortable in their native language, and Fisk can at least speak Mandarin and Japanese, although again not perfectly) and several of them (particularly Fisk and Gao) are ObfuscatingStupidity with their different partners. The only one who is totally left out is Owlsley, who speaks only English.
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* ''Manga/SpyXFamily'':
** The premise of the story revolves around this. Loid is actually a spy (codenamed Twilight), and Yor is an assassin (nicknamed the Thorn Princess). Neither of them knows this about one another. Several others play out their own hidden agendas with all of them being equally unaware about anyone else. Anya, the HappilyAdopted daughter of Loid and Yor in a false family, is the only exception to this because her {{Telepathy}} gives her complete knowledge of people's actual jobs and intents once she's near them or with someone else who knows. She naturally keeps this knowledge to herself for [[MindOverManners one obvious reason]] and also for [[ItAmusedMe her entertainment]]. However, there are some points in the story where the charade slips a bit.
** In Mission 12, Loid figures out that [[spoiler:Yuri (Yor's brother) is a member of the SecretPolice]] soon after meeting with him. In turn, [[spoiler:Yuri is RightForTheWrongReasons regarding his suspicions about Loid being a spy]] but understandably can't risk making a move at the time.
** The premise of the story revolves around this. Loid is actually a spy (codenamed Twilight), and Yor is an assassin (nicknamed the Thorn Princess). Neither of them knows this about one another. Several others play out their own hidden agendas with all of them being equally unaware about anyone else. Anya, the HappilyAdopted daughter of Loid and Yor in a false family, is the only exception to this because her {{Telepathy}} gives her complete knowledge of people's actual jobs and intents once she's near them or with someone else who knows. She naturally keeps this knowledge to herself for [[MindOverManners one obvious reason]] and also for [[ItAmusedMe her entertainment]]. However, there are some points in the story where the charade slips a bit.
** In Mission 12, Loid figures out that [[spoiler:Yuri (Yor's brother) is a member of the SecretPolice]] soon after meeting with him. In turn, [[spoiler:Yuri is RightForTheWrongReasons regarding his suspicions about Loid being a spy]] but understandably can't risk making a move at the time.
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* ''Manga/SpyXFamily'':
''Manga/SPYxFAMILY'':
**The premise of the story revolves around this. Loid is actually a spy (codenamed Twilight), and Yor is an assassin (nicknamed the Thorn Princess). Neither of them knows this about one another. Several others play out their own hidden agendas with all of them being equally unaware about anyone else. Anya, the HappilyAdopted daughter of Loid and Yor in a false family, is the only exception to this because her {{Telepathy}} gives her complete knowledge of people's actual jobs and intents once she's near them or with someone else who knows. She naturally keeps this knowledge to herself for [[MindOverManners one obvious reason]] and also for [[ItAmusedMe her entertainment]]. However, there are some points in the story where the charade slips a bit.
**In Mission 12, Loid figures out that [[spoiler:Yuri (Yor's brother) Yor's brother Yuri is a member of the SecretPolice]] SecretPolice soon after meeting with him. In turn, [[spoiler:Yuri Yuri is RightForTheWrongReasons regarding his suspicions about Loid being a spy]] spy, but understandably can't risk making a move at the time.can never find anything suspicious enough to take action on.
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* In the novel ''Literature/{{Twelve}}'', vampires have to hide themselves from human society. The protagonist discovers that the "mercenaries" his friend hired are in fact vampires. [[spoiler: Later, he is shocked to find out one of the vampires ''isn't''. So the villain could move about in the daylight ... OhCrap. Furthermore, said character had fooled the other vampires into thinking he's one of them. It helped that the vampires weren't particularly strong.]]
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* In the novel ''Literature/{{Twelve}}'', ''Literature/DanilovQuintet'': vampires have to hide themselves from human society. The protagonist discovers that the "mercenaries" his friend hired are in fact vampires. [[spoiler: Later, he is shocked to find out one of the vampires ''isn't''. So the villain could move about in the daylight ... OhCrap. Furthermore, said character had fooled the other vampires into thinking he's one of them. It helped that the vampires weren't particularly strong.]]
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* There's a GoldenAge Creator/DCComics story about the first meeting between [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] and [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]] - neither of whom have any idea the other one is also a superhero. (They find out before the end of the story when they both see the other changing into costume.)
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* There's a GoldenAge [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] Creator/DCComics story about the first meeting between [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]] and [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]] - neither of whom have any idea the other one is also a superhero. (They find out before the end of the story when they both see the other changing into costume.)
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* In [=LuisJM=]'s version of ''Fanfic/TransformersPrimeSeason3'', [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Team Prime, their Allie’s, MECH, and the Decepticons]] were unaware of the existence of the [[Manga/GunslingerGirl Social Welfare Agency]], who in turn didn't know that aliens existed and were already on Earth. This example has more justification than others - the two stories take place on separate continents, there are no Cybertronian relics in Italy, Team Prime only fights groups that directly oppose their actions, and the Social Welfare Agency does not try to root out terrorists from overseas. Funnily enough, the US Government ''did'' have evidence that the SWA existed, but never followed up on it because they had no reason to get involved.
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* In [=LuisJM=]'s version of ''Fanfic/TransformersPrimeSeason3'', [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Team Prime, their Allie’s, allies, MECH, and the Decepticons]] were unaware of the existence of the [[Manga/GunslingerGirl Social Welfare Agency]], who in turn didn't know that aliens existed and were already on Earth. This example has more justification than others - the two stories take place on separate continents, there are no Cybertronian relics in Italy, Team Prime only fights groups that directly oppose their actions, and the Social Welfare Agency does not try to root out terrorists from overseas. Funnily enough, the US Government ''did'' have evidence that the SWA existed, but never followed up on it because they had no reason to get involved.
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** In the third season, Batman and Robin did not know that Batgirl was Barbara Gordon any more than she knew who they were; Batgirl simply tended to show up whenever there was a crisis. Alfred learned her identity in one episode, however, but agreed to keep it secret.)
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** In the third season, Batman and Robin did not know that Batgirl was Barbara Gordon any more than she knew who they were; Batgirl simply tended to show up whenever there was a crisis. Alfred learned her identity in one episode, however, but agreed to keep it secret.)
