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* A central theme, arguably ''the'' central theme, of much of Music/DeathspellOmega's music. There is no clearer example of this than ''Music/TheFurnacesOfPalingenesia'', in which the band depicts an authoritarian system that, because of its [[EnemyToAllLivingThings explicit opposition to life]] of [[GreenAesop all forms]], ultimately leads to what may plausibly be interpreted as a [[ApocalypseHow global extinction event]] so severe that [[LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair there will not even be ruins to suggest it ever existed]]. Especially after they clarified their stances in a [[http://www.bardomethodology.com/articles/2019/06/23/deathspell-omega-interview/ rare 2019 interview]], it is possible to see this theme throughout much of the band's earlier work as well.


According to the more pessimistic sociologists, this is TruthInTelevision. Even the non-heavy drinkers agree that we possess this tendency. The basic reason for this is that our technical ingenuity -- that is, our ability to devise new ways of building and doing things -- is advancing faster than our social ingenuity -- that is, our ability to devise new ways to associate and relate with one another. Some might quote the old popular saying: that we, as a species, are paradoxly too stupid to handle our own vast intelligence. Others might not go that far, but will admit that there might be a grain of truth to the saying, seeing how something at least indicates that while we are quite quick to see the benefits from our rapid advancements, we are significantly slower to identify the more negative consequences resulting from them, even more so when it comes to fully grasp them.

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According to the more pessimistic sociologists, this is TruthInTelevision. Even the non-heavy drinkers agree that we possess this tendency. The basic reason for this is that our technical ingenuity -- that is, our ability to devise new ways of building and doing things -- is advancing faster than our social ingenuity -- that is, our ability to devise new ways to associate and relate with one another. Some might quote the old popular saying: that we, as a species, are paradoxly paradoxically too stupid to handle our own vast intelligence. Others might not go that far, but will admit that there might be a grain of truth to the saying, seeing how something at least indicates that while we are quite quick to see the benefits from our rapid advancements, we are significantly slower to identify the more negative consequences resulting from them, even more so when it comes to fully grasp them.


* In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed'', Rau Le Cruset believes this. He [[OmnicidalManiac decides to speed up the process.]]
** [[spoiler: Chairman Durandal]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' also believes this, but unlike Rau he [[WellIntentionedExtremist decides to do something about it.]]

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* In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed'', Rau Le Cruset believes this. He [[OmnicidalManiac decides to speed up the process.]]
process]].
** [[spoiler: Chairman Durandal]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' also believes this, but unlike Rau he [[WellIntentionedExtremist decides to do something about it.]]it]].



-->'''John:''' ''[observing two children playing around and pretending to shoot guns at each other then fighting for real over who won the game]'' We're not going to make it, are we. People, I mean...\\
'''T-800:''' [[TropeNamer It is in your nature to destroy yourselves.]]

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-->'''John:''' -->'''John''': ''[observing two children playing around and pretending to shoot guns at each other then fighting for real over who won the game]'' We're not going to make it, are we. People, I mean...\\
'''T-800:''' '''T-800''': [[TropeNamer It is in your nature to destroy yourselves.]]



-->I'd like to share a revelation I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized... you're not actually mammals. [[ArtisticLicenseBiology Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment]], but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and you multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings... are a disease. A cancer of this planet. You're a... plague. And we... are the cure.

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-->I'd -->"I'd like to share a revelation I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized... you're not actually mammals. [[ArtisticLicenseBiology Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment]], but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and you multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings... are a disease. A cancer of this planet. You're a... plague. And we... are the cure."



--> The object in constructing me was to prevent war. This object is attained. I will not permit war. It is wasteful and pointless. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man.

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--> The -->"The object in constructing me was to prevent war. This object is attained. I will not permit war. It is wasteful and pointless. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man."



-->When your captain first approached us, we suspected that an agreement with humans would prove impossible to maintain. You are erratic, conflicted, disorganized. [[DemocracyIsBad Every decision is debated]], every action questioned, every individual entitled to their own small opinion. You lack harmony. Cohesion. Greatness. It will be your undoing.

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-->When -->"When your captain first approached us, we suspected that an agreement with humans would prove impossible to maintain. You are erratic, conflicted, disorganized. [[DemocracyIsBad Every decision is debated]], every action questioned, every individual entitled to their own small opinion. You lack harmony. Cohesion. Greatness. It will be your undoing."



-->Corruption and abuse\\

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-->Corruption -->''"Corruption and abuse\\



It's in our nature to kill, kill, kill!

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It's in our nature to kill, kill, kill!kill!"''



-->Individuals run for cover \\
For the multitudes of [[TheWarOnStraw thoughtless clones]] \\
have reached a critical mass[...] \\
Congregating in invisible circles \\
Half a part and half apart \\
All too aware of the insignificance \\
[[AuthorFilibuster Pushing on with soul and heart]][...] \\
Procreation without gain or purpose \\
Languid wills and torpid minds \\
[[CrapsackWorld Catapulted ever faster]] by the arrow of time

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-->Individuals -->''"Individuals run for cover \\
cover\\
For the multitudes of [[TheWarOnStraw thoughtless clones]] \\
clones]]\\
have reached a critical mass[...] \\
]\\
Congregating in invisible circles \\
circles\\
Half a part and half apart \\
apart\\
All too aware of the insignificance \\
insignificance\\
[[AuthorFilibuster Pushing on with soul and heart]][...] \\
]\\
Procreation without gain or purpose \\
purpose\\
Languid wills and torpid minds \\
minds\\
[[CrapsackWorld Catapulted ever faster]] by the arrow of timetime"''



-->[[spoiler:'''Porky:''']] No matter how much you change the rules, no matter how much you refuse to admit defeat, in the end, the creatures known as "people" will always sign their own death warrant by acting out of stupidity and evil.

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-->[[spoiler:'''Porky:''']] -->[[spoiler:'''Porky''':]] No matter how much you change the rules, no matter how much you refuse to admit defeat, in the end, the creatures known as "people" will always sign their own death warrant by acting out of stupidity and evil.



-->'''Liberty:''' "I can only imagine what the Zerg and Protoss thought when they landed on planet after planet that consisted of nothing but Confederates and rebels whaling the tar out of each other. They probably thought it was the normal behavior pattern for our race. And I suppose they would be right."

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-->'''Liberty:''' -->'''Liberty''': "I can only imagine what the Zerg and Protoss thought when they landed on planet after planet that consisted of nothing but Confederates and rebels whaling the tar out of each other. They probably thought it was the normal behavior pattern for our race. And I suppose they would be right."



--> '''Bamboo Pandamonium''': "Did you know that the earliest form of rocketry was missiles used for war? All of history has been spent making things whose sole purpose is to destroy. Missiles... Reploids..."

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--> '''Bamboo Pandamonium''': "Did Did you know that the earliest form of rocketry was missiles used for war? All of history has been spent making things whose sole purpose is to destroy. Missiles... Reploids..."



-->'''Dr. Amp:''' Spontaneously, the citizens began killing each other.\\
'''Radd:''' Why?\\
'''GI Guy:''' ''Because that's what video game characters do.''

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-->'''Dr. Amp:''' Amp''': Spontaneously, the citizens began killing each other.\\
'''Radd:''' '''Radd''': Why?\\
'''GI Guy:''' Guy''': ''Because that's what video game characters do.''



* The Medea Hypothesis proposes that life is naturally self-destructive, as it has come close to destroying itself several times (eg the Oxygen Catastrophe, and the Permian Mass Extinction). Of course, even if true, there wouldn't be much anyone alive could do about that. What's the ''alternative'' to life, after all? [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that's all that needs to be said about this subject matter.]]

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* The Medea Hypothesis proposes that life is naturally self-destructive, as it has come close to destroying itself several times (eg the Oxygen Catastrophe, and the Permian Mass Extinction). Of course, even if true, there wouldn't be much anyone alive could do about that. What's the ''alternative'' to life, after all? [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that's all that needs to be said about this subject matter.]]matter]].


** [[spoiler: Chairman Durandal]] from the [[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Sequel series]] also believes this, but unlike Rau he [[WellIntentionedExtremist decides to do something about it.]]

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** [[spoiler: Chairman Durandal]] from the [[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Sequel series]] ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' also believes this, but unlike Rau he [[WellIntentionedExtremist decides to do something about it.]]


-->I'd like to share a revelation I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized... you're not actually mammals. [[YouFailBiologyForever Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment]], but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and you multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings... are a disease. A cancer of this planet. You're a... plague. And we... are the cure.

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-->I'd like to share a revelation I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized... you're not actually mammals. [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment]], but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and you multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings... are a disease. A cancer of this planet. You're a... plague. And we... are the cure.


* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'' episode "Heart's Desire" has an alien arrive on Earth during the WildWest era and take over the body of an old preacher. He then proceeds to give shady characters the power to turn matter into energy at will. They quickly turn on one another, before only one is left. The alien reveals himself and his goal: he has come to Earth to destroy potential enemies but has seen enough to realize that we won't last long enough to invent interstellar travel, and thus are no threat.

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* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'' episode ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'':
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"Heart's Desire" has an alien arrive on Earth during the WildWest era and take over the body of an old preacher. He then proceeds to give shady characters the power to turn matter into energy at will. They quickly turn on one another, before only one is left. The alien reveals himself and his goal: he has come to Earth to destroy potential enemies but has seen enough to realize that we won't last long enough to invent interstellar travel, and thus are no threat.threat.
** In another episode, an AI comes to this conclusion about humanity, determining that humans will always turn to violence as a primary means of resolving their differences. It seems to be proven wrong, when characters from both sides of the SpaceColdWar give their lives to stop the AI. Then the last remaining human on the base receives news that ''his'' side's government has launched a preemptive strike in order to wipe out their opponents, since their talks weren't going anywhere. Their calculations were wrong, and Earth becomes uninhabitable after MAD is proven right. With the few survivors (government higher-ups) on their way to the base and his own family dead, the guy is himself convinced of this trop and decides that humanity doesn't deserve to survive, reactivating the base's self-destruct.


* In Creator/SergeyLukyanenko's ''Competitors'', the aliens reveal that, in their experience, most humanoid races destroy themselves before expanding to other stars. As such, they have no fear of humans, even going as far as providing certain individuals with ImportedAlienPhlebotinum. If anything, they figure that this will only hasten our demise. The novel ends with one of the protagonists determined to prove them wrong.

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* In Creator/SergeyLukyanenko's ''Competitors'', ''Literature/{{Competitors}}'', the aliens reveal that, in their experience, most humanoid races destroy themselves before expanding to other stars. As such, they have no fear of humans, even going as far as providing certain individuals with ImportedAlienPhlebotinum. If anything, they figure that this will only hasten our demise. The novel ends with one of the protagonists determined to prove them wrong.

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* In ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'', the [[GrandInquisitorScene Grand Inquisitor]] believes that without the firm hand of his Church to guide them, this will be humanity's ultimate fate:
-->"Without a clear perception of his reasons for living, man will never consent to live, and will rather destroy himself than tarry on earth, though he be surrounded with bread."


-->'''Batman''': Humanity likes to pretend that the Doomsday Clock has a snooze button.

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-->'''Batman''': --->'''Batman''': Humanity likes to pretend that the Doomsday Clock has a snooze button.

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* This is the reason why the Black Arms attacked Earth in ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog''. Black Doom reveals that it would be a waste if the planet's population destroyed itself, so he planned to save them...by capturing them all and bringing them to the Black Comet where they will become livestock to be bred and fed upon. Starting with Sonic, his friends and Eggman.

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* ''Film/TheHungerGamesMockingjay'' part 2 has the [[TheManBehindTheMan game maker]] explain to the protagonist, "We are fickle, stupid beings with poor memories and a great gift for self destruction. Although - who knows? Maybe this time, we will learn?"


** In ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' Batman and Wonder Woman note that humanity may have gotten a little worse in this regard [[spoiler: after Superman's demise]].

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** In ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' Batman and Wonder Woman note notes that humanity may have gotten a little worse in the first time Steppenwolf attacked the Earth, the major precursor civilizations [[GondorCallsForAid assembled their armies to fight him]], but with his current campaign, the modern nations are [[CavalryRefusal isolating themselves and securing their own borders]]. This leads her and Batman to discuss this regard [[spoiler: after Superman's demise]].trope.


* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Wonder Woman spends the film convinced that the god Ares is behind World War 1 and that killing him will end the war. [[spoiler: When they finally meet, Ares gloats that he never forces people to fight, just gives them the weapons that make it worse.]]

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''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Wonder Woman spends the film convinced that the god Ares is behind [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI World War 1 I]] and that killing him will end the war. [[spoiler: When they finally meet, Ares gloats that he never forces people to fight, just gives them the weapons that make it worse.]]]]
** In ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'' Batman and Wonder Woman note that humanity may have gotten a little worse in this regard [[spoiler: after Superman's demise]].
-->'''Batman''': Humanity likes to pretend that the Doomsday Clock has a snooze button.
** In ''Film/Aquaman2018'', this is [[DownplayedTrope a bit more downplayed]], but one of the reasons [[BigBad Orm Marius]] wants to conquer the surface world is his belief that humans will destroy the planet if left unchecked (though he also has a [[AmbitionIsEvil couple]] [[FantasticRacism other]] reasons).

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* Bamboo Pandamonium in his pre-battle quotes in ''VideoGame/MegaManX8'' talks about how all of human history has been spent building weapons of destruction to use on each other.
--> '''Bamboo Pandamonium''': "Did you know that the earliest form of rocketry was missiles used for war? All of history has been spent making things whose sole purpose is to destroy. Missiles... Reploids..."


* The Medea Hypothesis proposes that life is naturally self-destructive, as it has come close to destroying itself several times (eg the Oxygen Catastrophe, and the Permian Mass Extinction). Of course, even if true, there wouldn't be much anyone alive could do about that. What's the ''alternative'' to life, after all?
** And since if this is TruthInTelevision has been thrown around by Idealists and Cynicists in several {{Flame War}}s, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement that's all that needs to be said about this subject matter.]]

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* The Medea Hypothesis proposes that life is naturally self-destructive, as it has come close to destroying itself several times (eg the Oxygen Catastrophe, and the Permian Mass Extinction). Of course, even if true, there wouldn't be much anyone alive could do about that. What's the ''alternative'' to life, after all?
** And since if this is TruthInTelevision has been thrown around by Idealists and Cynicists in several {{Flame War}}s,
all? [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And that's all that needs to be said about this subject matter.]]

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