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* Deconstructed in ''[[Famfic/YuGiOhTheThousandYearDoor Yu-Gi-Oh: The Thousand Year Door, Redux]]''. As this confrontation between Andy and the Shadow Queen proves, the heroes ''really'' don't think it's true, despite her HannibalLecture:

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* Deconstructed in ''[[Famfic/YuGiOhTheThousandYearDoor ''[[Fanfic/YuGiOhTheThousandYearDoor Yu-Gi-Oh: The Thousand Year Door, Redux]]''. As this confrontation between Andy and the Shadow Queen proves, the heroes ''really'' don't think it's true, despite her HannibalLecture:

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* ''Series/HomicideHunter'''s Joe Kenda is very proud of the fact that he never fired his gun in his 20-something years as a cop, because he thinks it would have been stooping to the level of the criminals he was trying to catch:
--> "If you pull that trigger, you become like them. And I'm '''''not''''' like them."


* ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': Jean told this to Wolverine when he was about to kill Wraith. Wolverine did not care, so she had save Wraith herself.

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* ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': Jean told this to Wolverine when he was about to kill Wraith.Wraith, the colonel from "Weapon-X" that tortured him. Wolverine did not care, so she had save Wraith herself.

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* ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': Jean told this to Wolverine when he was about to kill Wraith. Wolverine did not care, so she had save Wraith herself.


* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''. When Catwoman is about to drop the villain into his own vat of acid, Batgirl calls out "If you drop him you'll be just like him!" to which Catwoman replies [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "Oh]], [[ShutUpKirk grow up."]] and lets go.

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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''. When Catwoman is about to drop the villain into his own vat of acid, Batgirl calls out "If you drop him you'll be just like him!" to which Catwoman replies [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "Oh]], [[ShutUpKirk grow up."]] and up"]]--and lets go.[[note]]The bad guy survives, being saved by another hero.[[/note]]


* ''VideoGame/Persona5'': The Protagonist and [[TheLancer Ryuji]] initially bring this up as their reason for not HeelFaceBrainwashing the school's physically abusive PE teacher Suguru Kamoshida. If the process goes wrong, the teacher could die, which would make the heroes far worse than even a monster like Kamoshida.

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* ''VideoGame/Persona5'': The Protagonist and [[TheLancer Ryuji]] initially bring this up as their reason for not HeelFaceBrainwashing the school's physically abusive PE teacher Suguru Kamoshida. If the process goes wrong, the teacher could die, which would make the heroes far worse than even a monster like Kamoshida. And then Kamoshida [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil gleefully crosses]] the MoralEventHorizon, leaving the protagonist and Ryuji with much less qualms about dealing with him.


* Hans does this to Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' where he pleads her not to kill Weaselton's guards in self-defense. This momentarily stops Elsa in her tracks and realize what she had done. [[spoiler:However, given Hans's status as TheEvilPrince, it is clear that he only does it to get Elsa off-guard and purposely knock her unconscious with a chandelier so he can take her to the castle so as to maintain a good image in the eyes of his subjects.]]

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* Hans does this to Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' where he pleads with her not to kill Weaselton's guards in self-defense. This momentarily stops Elsa in her tracks and makes her realize what she had has done. [[spoiler:However, given Hans's status as TheEvilPrince, it is clear that he only does it to get Elsa off-guard and purposely knock her unconscious with a chandelier so he can take her to the castle so as to maintain a good image in the eyes of his subjects.]]


* Hans does this to Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' where he pleads her not to kill Weaselton's guards in self-defense. This momentarily stops Elsa in her tracks and realize what she had done. However, given Hans's status as TheEvilPrince, it is clear that he only does it to get Elsa off-guard and purposely knock her unconscious with a chandelier so he can take her to the castle so as to maintain a good image in the eyes of his subjects.

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* Hans does this to Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' where he pleads her not to kill Weaselton's guards in self-defense. This momentarily stops Elsa in her tracks and realize what she had done. However, [[spoiler:However, given Hans's status as TheEvilPrince, it is clear that he only does it to get Elsa off-guard and purposely knock her unconscious with a chandelier so he can take her to the castle so as to maintain a good image in the eyes of his subjects.]]

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* Hans does this to Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' where he pleads her not to kill Weaselton's guards in self-defense. This momentarily stops Elsa in her tracks and realize what she had done. However, given Hans's status as TheEvilPrince, it is clear that he only does it to get Elsa off-guard and purposely knock her unconscious with a chandelier so he can take her to the castle so as to maintain a good image in the eyes of his subjects.


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* {{Subverted}} in ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil''. Basara uses this reasoning to stop Mio from finishing off Zolgia, who murdered her foster parents and took Maria's mother hostage as leverage to get the powers Mio inherited from her father the Demon Lord Wilbert. [[spoiler:Actually, Basara had promised Lars in exchange for his help rescuing Mio that ''he'' would get to kill Zolgia, since Mio's foster parents had also run the orphanage where Lars grew up.]]

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* {{Subverted}} {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil''. Basara uses this reasoning to stop Mio from finishing off Zolgia, who murdered her foster parents and took Maria's mother hostage as leverage to get the powers Mio inherited from her father the Demon Lord Wilbert. [[spoiler:Actually, Basara had promised Lars in exchange for his help rescuing Mio that ''he'' would get to kill Zolgia, since Mio's foster parents had also run the orphanage where Lars grew up.]]



** This is invoked maybe half the times he goes up against the Joker. The comic book series also highlights [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the cost of Batman's decision]]: Joker's victims are estimated in the ''thousands'', all of whom Batman is indirectly responsible for. Of course, it's debatable whether Batman is the one truly at fault, as opposed to Gotham's criminally negligent penal system.

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** This is invoked maybe half the times he goes up against the Joker.ComicBook/TheJoker. The comic book series also highlights [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the cost of Batman's decision]]: Joker's victims are estimated in the ''thousands'', all of whom Batman is indirectly responsible for. Of course, it's debatable whether Batman is the one truly at fault, as opposed to Gotham's criminally negligent penal system.



* In ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'' ''ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'' Magneto kills the ComicBook/RedSkull, and ComicBook/{{Rogue}} responded by declaring that he's 'just like him'. For reference, Magneto is a mutant who survived the Holocaust, and recently lost his best friend, Charles Xavier. Red Skull is a Nazi who not only took part in the Holocaust, but has set up a ''new'' series of Concentration Camps for mutants and [[ComicBook/TheInhumans Inhumans]] on the grounds of Genosha, the sovereign nation Magneto previously controlled that was a safe-haven for mutants, and is keeping things in control using the ''stolen brain of Charles Xavier''. He also had Magneto tortured for god-knows how long [[note]] during which he had used MindRape to ruin every important memory Magneto had by implanting the memory of Hitzig, the Nazi general responsible for the worst times Magneto suffered during the Holocaust, into them[[/note]]. And, when he was briefly ''not'' attacking him, Red Skull began throwing taunts at him about how Xavier never cared about him and generally egging him on until Magneto crushed his head under a large rock. And yet, Rogue believes Magneto is ''just as bad as the Red Skull'' because he chose to kill him here. [[{{Hypocrite}} This is after, mind,]] Rogue had tried to kill [[ComicBook/ScarletWitch Wanda]] (and would have succeeded if not for TimeTravel) in a premeditated attack, and previously killed the Grim Reaper (albeit accidentally), while their team includes Wolverine (who has killed countless people, including his own son, and doesn't feel any guilt for them), [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] (who recently killed one of the {{Big Bad}}s of the book), ComicBook/CaptainAmerica (who while he doesn't go out to kill, ''has'' killed in the past and previously fought in war, and is indirectly responsible for Red Skull's last death), and Scarlet Witch (who is not only directly responsible for the death of three Avengers (who have all, fortunately, came back by this point, but still), but also responsible for the mutant Decimation, and thus indirectly responsible for all the depowered mutants who died as a result).

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* In ''ComicBook/UncannyAvengers'' ''ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'' Magneto kills the ComicBook/RedSkull, and ComicBook/{{Rogue}} responded by declaring that he's 'just like him'. For reference, Magneto is a mutant who survived the Holocaust, and recently lost his best friend, Charles Xavier. Red Skull is a Nazi who not only took part in the Holocaust, but has set up a ''new'' series of Concentration Camps for mutants and [[ComicBook/TheInhumans Inhumans]] on the grounds of Genosha, the sovereign nation Magneto previously controlled that was a safe-haven for mutants, and is keeping things in control using the ''stolen brain of Charles Xavier''. He also had Magneto tortured for god-knows how long [[note]] during which he had used MindRape to ruin every important memory Magneto had by implanting the memory of Hitzig, the Nazi general responsible for the worst times Magneto suffered during the Holocaust, into them[[/note]]. And, when he was briefly ''not'' attacking him, Red Skull began throwing taunts at him about how Xavier never cared about him and generally egging him on until Magneto crushed his head under a large rock. And yet, Rogue believes Magneto is ''just as bad as the Red Skull'' because he chose to kill him here. [[{{Hypocrite}} This is after, mind,]] Rogue had tried to kill [[ComicBook/ScarletWitch Wanda]] (and would have succeeded if not for TimeTravel) in a premeditated attack, and previously killed the Grim Reaper (albeit accidentally), while their team includes Wolverine (who has killed countless people, including his own son, and doesn't feel any guilt for them), [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] (who recently killed one of the {{Big Bad}}s of the book), ComicBook/CaptainAmerica (who while he doesn't go out to kill, ''has'' killed in the past and previously fought in war, and is indirectly responsible for Red Skull's last death), and Scarlet Witch (who is not only directly responsible for the death of three Avengers (who have all, fortunately, came back by this point, but still), but also responsible for the mutant Decimation, and thus indirectly responsible for all the depowered mutants who died as a result).



* ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8988902/1/Reconciliator-of-Empire-City Reconciliator of Empire City]]'' has [[{{VideoGame/inFamous}} Cole [=MacGrath=]]] berating [[ComicBook/XMen Kitty Pryde]] for her attempt in killing Emma Frost in ''Astonishing X-Men #18''.

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* ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8988902/1/Reconciliator-of-Empire-City Reconciliator of Empire City]]'' has [[{{VideoGame/inFamous}} Cole [=MacGrath=]]] MacGrath]] berating [[ComicBook/XMen Kitty Pryde]] ComicBook/KittyPryde for her attempt in killing Emma Frost in ''Astonishing X-Men #18''.



** Subverted to hell and gone in ''Film/Deadpool2016''. Colossus ''begins'' to give Wade one of these speeches. Despite the fact that Colossus' speech is the only thing keeping him alive at the moment, Francis rolls his eyes in exasperation at it. Wade gets bored and shoots Francis in the head.

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** Subverted to hell and gone in ''Film/Deadpool2016''. Colossus ''begins'' to give Wade one of these speeches. Despite Wade and Francis share a [[ContemptCrossfire "this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard"]] look despite the fact that Colossus' speech is the only thing keeping him the latter alive at the moment, Francis rolls his eyes in exasperation at it.moment. Wade gets bored and shoots Francis in the head.



* Played for laughs in ''Film/Deadpool2016''. When AntiHero Wade has his enemy Francis on the ropes Colossus goes into a big speech about this trope and how restraint in these situations is what it means to be a hero. Wade and Francis share a [[ContemptCrossfire "this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard"]] look before Wade interrupts the speech with a bullet.



* ''Series/BreakingBad'' Early in season one Walt is faced with this choice when he has Krazy 8 chained up in a basement. Hilariously he makes a pros and cons list, balancing "Judeo-Christian values" versus "He will kill you and your family"

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Early in season one Walt is faced with this choice when he has Krazy 8 chained up in a basement. Hilariously he makes a pros and cons list, balancing "Judeo-Christian values" versus "He will kill you and your family"



* Faith pulls this on ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' to break a MexicanStandoff where she and Buffy both have knives to the other's throat. Unique in that Faith seems to somewhat ''want'' Buffy to kill her and thus become like her, as some form of revenge. Yeah, Faith [[AxCrazy had issues...]]

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Faith pulls this on ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' Buffy to break a MexicanStandoff where she and Buffy both have knives to the other's throat. Unique in that Faith seems to somewhat ''want'' Buffy to kill her and thus become like her, as some form of revenge. Yeah, Faith [[AxCrazy had issues...]]



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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'' ChristmasEpisode [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E9RunningToStandStill "Running to Stand Still"]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Barry]] has to talk down Patty from murdering Mark Mardon, the man who [[YouKilledMyFather murdered her father]]. As Patty is a cop and she's holding the defeated and helpless Mardon at gunpoint, Barry points out that Mardon isn't worth Patty going to jail for murder, and throwing away everything she's worked for. Patty listens and chooses to arrest Mardon instead.

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* In ''Series/TheFlash2014'' ChristmasEpisode [[Recap/TheFlash2014S2E9RunningToStandStill "Running to Stand Still"]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash [[Franchise/TheFlash Barry]] has to talk down Patty from murdering Mark Mardon, the man who [[YouKilledMyFather murdered her father]]. As Patty is a cop and she's holding the defeated and helpless Mardon at gunpoint, Barry points out that Mardon isn't worth Patty going to jail for murder, and throwing away everything she's worked for. Patty listens and chooses to arrest Mardon instead.



* This is very much true in Christianity. Even in the earliest books of the Old Testament, personally carrying out revenge by death is outright forbidden. In fact, not paying evil unto evil, but rather with forgiveness, is a fundamental aspect of Biblical Christianity.

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* This is very much true in Christianity.UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}. Even in the earliest books of the Old Testament, personally carrying out revenge by death is outright forbidden. In fact, not paying evil unto evil, but rather with forgiveness, is a fundamental aspect of Biblical Christianity.



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* This happens in at least one episode of the original ''[[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983 He-Man and the Masters of the Universe]]''.

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** It also pops up in short story ''The Warrior,'' where Michael has a SwordOverHead moment with the man who [[spoiler:kidnapped and nearly blew up one of his daughters]]. Harry talks Michael down, saying he's already beaten and harmless, that's not who he is and if the man ''really'' has to die, to let Harry do it.


* {{Subverted}} in ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil''. Basara uses this reasoning to stop Mio from finishing off Zolgia, who murdered her foster parents and took Maria's mother hostage as leverage to get the powers Mio inherited from her father the Demon Lord Wilbert. [[spoiler:This turns out to be a cover story: in exchange for Lars's help rescuing Mio from Zolgia, Basara had promised Lars that ''he'' would get to kill Zolgia to avenge the operators of the orphanage where he grew up, whom Wilbert later tasked with fostering Mio.]]

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* {{Subverted}} in ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil''. Basara uses this reasoning to stop Mio from finishing off Zolgia, who murdered her foster parents and took Maria's mother hostage as leverage to get the powers Mio inherited from her father the Demon Lord Wilbert. [[spoiler:This turns out to be a cover story: in exchange for Lars's help rescuing Mio from Zolgia, [[spoiler:Actually, Basara had promised Lars in exchange for his help rescuing Mio that ''he'' would get to kill Zolgia to avenge the operators of Zolgia, since Mio's foster parents had also run the orphanage where he Lars grew up, whom Wilbert later tasked with fostering Mio.up.]]

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* {{Subverted}} in ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil''. Basara uses this reasoning to stop Mio from finishing off Zolgia, who murdered her foster parents and took Maria's mother hostage as leverage to get the powers Mio inherited from her father the Demon Lord Wilbert. [[spoiler:This turns out to be a cover story: in exchange for Lars's help rescuing Mio from Zolgia, Basara had promised Lars that ''he'' would get to kill Zolgia to avenge the operators of the orphanage where he grew up, whom Wilbert later tasked with fostering Mio.]]

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** Played dead straight in ''Film/Deadpool2'', where this trope taking effect creates a serial killer and so preventing the initial killing of the villain becomes a major goal.

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