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One factor to take into account that doesn't involve gender is the probability that many slash fic writers are simply projecting [[ShrinkingViolet their own insecurities]] through their writing and theory, and the antagonism towards a type of relationship in a piece of fiction is one manifestation of those insecurities. Fanfic and slash fic are a form of escapism to these writers, and sometimes they get in so deep that they forge an identity from the fiction they both write and consume, intertwining the work with their being. Any concept that deviates from the work is subsequently an attack on that identity. Thus writers take a reactionary posture, in part because they lack the social skills and maturity necessary to separate the work from themselves.
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The extreme versions are the kind who accuse authors of homophobia for daring to give either or both of the characters in a popular Slash pairing an opposite-sex love interest, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

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The extreme versions are the kind who accuse authors of homophobia for daring to give either or both of the characters in a popular Slash pairing an opposite-sex love interest, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]).pregnant]]. The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).
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The extreme versions are the kind who accuse authors of homophobia for daring to give either or both of their shipped characters an opposite-sex love interest, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

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The extreme versions are the kind who accuse authors of homophobia for daring to give either or both of their shipped the characters in a popular Slash pairing an opposite-sex love interest, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).
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The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors, accusing them of homophobia for daring to give either or both of their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

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The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors, accusing them accuse authors of homophobia for daring to give either or both of their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse, love interest, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).
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The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors for daring to give their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

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The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors authors, accusing them of homophobia for daring to give either or both of their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse spouse, and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).
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Correcting edit reason: Looking at pure numbers femslash ships are far more common in the Once Upon A Time fandomthan regular slash is, so that part is false. The Alien bit seems true though.
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Looking at pure numbers femslash is far more common in the Once Upon A Time regular slash.


Meanwhile, there is an air of misogyny with people (ironically mostly [[FemaleMisogynist women]] this time) who endorse Het Is Ew since not only are female-female pairings ''much'' rarer than male-male ones,[[note]]even in franchises with prominent female leads like ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' or Series/OnceUponATime[[/note]] the women in het ships get the most hate and slash pairings often kill off or demonize the female characters in order to enable ships with [[GuyOnGuyIsHot men only]].

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Meanwhile, there is an air of misogyny with people (ironically mostly [[FemaleMisogynist women]] this time) who endorse Het Is Ew since not only are female-female pairings ''much'' rarer than male-male ones,[[note]]even in franchises with prominent female leads like ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' or Series/OnceUponATime[[/note]] ''Franchise/{{Alien}}''[[/note]] the women in het ships get the most hate and slash pairings often kill off or demonize the female characters in order to enable ships with [[GuyOnGuyIsHot men only]].
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romanticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above physical attraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romanticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above physical attraction attraction]] and perversion in general]], therefore [[WomenAreWiser more attuned to genuine love]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way.lust clouding their minds. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Depending on what circles you run in, this can actually be a joke, usually about why they don't write "gen" ("general") fic.

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Depending on what circles you run in, this can actually be a joke, usually about why they don't write "gen" ("general") fic.
GenFic.
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romanticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual attraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romanticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual physical attraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual attraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized romanticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual attraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual atttraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implications that (a) straight men are too horny to feel genuine love towards their female partners or even see them as anything other than sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual atttraction attraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implication that (a) straight men are too horny to have genuine love for their female partners or even see them as anything more than sex objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are above sexual atttraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings, with the implication implications that (a) straight men are too horny to have feel genuine love for towards their female partners or even see them as anything more other than sex sexual objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are naturally above sexual atttraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings. It assumes that straight men are too horny to have [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation genuine love]] for their female partners (or even see them as anything more than sex objects), whereas women [[AllWomenArePrudes are incapable of acting perverted towards others]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings. It assumes pairings, with the implication that (a) straight men are too horny to have [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation genuine love]] love for their female partners (or or even see them as anything more than sex objects), whereas objects, and (b) women [[AllWomenArePrudes are incapable of acting perverted towards others]], above sexual atttraction and perversion in general]], so two girls can love each other without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings. It assumes that straight men are too horny to have [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation genuine love]] for their female partners (or even see them as anything more than sex objects), whereas women [[AllWomenArePrudes are incapable of acting perverted towards others]], so two girls can love each other to one another without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings. It assumes that straight men are too horny to have [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation genuine love]] for their female partners (or even see them as anything more than sex objects), whereas women [[AllWomenArePrudes are incapable of acting perverted towards others]], so two girls can love each other to one another without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the way. This is why the [[MemeticMutation memetic phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Counterintuitively, there may be a homophobic element to this trope in some cases. Straight people who subscribe to the notion may feel that their own sexuality is threatened if they find a work that includes a member of their own sex arousing, and this is most common with males who invoke Het Is Ew. This is one of the reasons for the [[GirlOnGirlIsHot prevalence of lesbian porn aimed at straight men]]; male viewers don't need to [[StupidSexyFlanders worry about being turned on by another guy]]. On the flip side, there is also an air of misogyny with people (ironically mostly [[FemaleMisogynist women]] this time) who endorse Het Is Ew since not only are female-female pairings ''much'' rarer than male-male ones,[[note]]even in franchises with prominent female leads like ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' or Series/OnceUponATime[[/note]] the women in het ships get the most hate and slash pairings often kill off or demonize the female characters in order to enable ships with [[GuyOnGuyIsHot men only]].

There's also a case for elements of biphobia, where romantic relationships involving characters of the opposite sex are attacked or invalidated as heteronormative for being [[NoBisexuals mutually exclusive]] with the capacity for same-sex attraction, even when one or more of the characters involved is already canonically bisexual.

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Counterintuitively, there may be a homophobic element to this trope in some cases. Straight people who subscribe to the notion may feel that their own sexuality is threatened if they find a work that includes a member of their own sex arousing, and this is most common with males who invoke Het Is Ew. This is one of the reasons for the [[GirlOnGirlIsHot prevalence of lesbian porn aimed at straight men]]; male viewers don't need to [[StupidSexyFlanders worry about being turned on by another guy]]. On There's also a case for elements of biphobia, where romantic relationships involving characters of the flip side, opposite sex are attacked or invalidated as heteronormative for being [[NoBisexuals mutually exclusive]] with the capacity for same-sex attraction, even when one or more of the characters involved is already canonically bisexual.

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there is also an air of misogyny with people (ironically mostly [[FemaleMisogynist women]] this time) who endorse Het Is Ew since not only are female-female pairings ''much'' rarer than male-male ones,[[note]]even in franchises with prominent female leads like ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' or Series/OnceUponATime[[/note]] the women in het ships get the most hate and slash pairings often kill off or demonize the female characters in order to enable ships with [[GuyOnGuyIsHot men only]].

There's also a case for elements of biphobia, where romantic relationships involving characters of the opposite sex are attacked or invalidated as heteronormative for being [[NoBisexuals mutually exclusive]] with the capacity for same-sex attraction, even when one or more of the characters involved is already canonically bisexual.
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This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average straight fic is about heterosexual relationships. [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of CanonForeigner characters, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.

The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors for daring to give their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics frequently show up in the slash genre as well, with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]. The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

Counterintuitively, there may be a homophobic element to this trope in some cases; straight people who subscribe to the notion may feel that their own sexuality is threatened if they find a work that includes a member of their own sex arousing, and this is most common with males who invoke Het Is Ew. This is one of the reasons for the [[GirlOnGirlIsHot prevalence of lesbian porn aimed at straight men]]; male viewers don't need to [[StupidSexyFlanders worry about being turned on by another guy]]. On the flip side, there is also an air of misogyny with people (ironically mostly [[FemaleMisogynist women]] this time) who endorse Het Is Ew since not only are female-female pairings ''much'' rarer than male-male ones,[[note]]even in franchises with prominent female leads like ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' or Series/OnceUponATime[[/note]] the women in het ships get the most hate and slash pairings often kill off or demonize the female characters in order to enable ships with [[GuyOnGuyIsHot men only]].

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This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average straight fic is about heterosexual relationships. [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of CanonForeigner characters, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers producers.[[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.

The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors for daring to give their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple frequently show up in the slash genre as well, well]], with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]].pregnant]]). The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

Counterintuitively, there may be a homophobic element to this trope in some cases; straight cases. Straight people who subscribe to the notion may feel that their own sexuality is threatened if they find a work that includes a member of their own sex arousing, and this is most common with males who invoke Het Is Ew. This is one of the reasons for the [[GirlOnGirlIsHot prevalence of lesbian porn aimed at straight men]]; male viewers don't need to [[StupidSexyFlanders worry about being turned on by another guy]]. On the flip side, there is also an air of misogyny with people (ironically mostly [[FemaleMisogynist women]] this time) who endorse Het Is Ew since not only are female-female pairings ''much'' rarer than male-male ones,[[note]]even in franchises with prominent female leads like ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' or Series/OnceUponATime[[/note]] the women in het ships get the most hate and slash pairings often kill off or demonize the female characters in order to enable ships with [[GuyOnGuyIsHot men only]].



Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Besides, {{Double Standard}}s regarding male and female sexuality may be involved as well: namely, the notion that the former is "dirty", [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation lustful]], and inherently exploitative towards women compared to the latter. There is the belief among some that heterosexual relationships are inherently impossible to be consensual because of this, and that the only way men can truly treat their female counterparts with genuine love, respect, and/or goodwill is to be either [[CelibateHero celibate]] or [[AllTheGoodMenAreGay gay]]. ([[FalseDichotomy Ignoring that]] men can be attracted to women '''and''' still view and respect them as fellow human beings). As such, those with a "Het is Ew" attitude in regards to male sexuality may often cite this to promote lesbian relationships as not only being more "pure" and "authentic", but also as the hallmark of "real" empowered women. [[note]]With the implication that any strong, independent woman who likes men and willingly stays in a heterosexual relationship [[NoTrueScotsman isn't truly strong or independent, no matter how healthy and mutual the relationship is]].[[/note]] This sentiment is also why men tend not to show up in Yuri fanfics alongside some benevolent misogyny, as many straight males can internalize the belief that their sexuality and attraction towards the opposite sex is inherently disrespectful and objectifying; thus, you'll often hear the [[MemeticMutation memetic claim]] that "Yuri is the purest form of love" amongst male anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Besides, {{Double Standard}}s regarding male and female sexuality may be involved as well: namely, the Such a notion often underlies the romaticized portrayal of lesbian pairings as healthier, more wholesome, and more sincere than het pairings. It assumes that the former is "dirty", straight men are too horny to have [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation lustful]], and inherently exploitative towards women compared to the latter. There is the belief among some that heterosexual relationships are inherently impossible to be consensual because of this, and that the only way men can truly treat genuine love]] for their female counterparts with genuine love, respect, and/or goodwill is to be either [[CelibateHero celibate]] or [[AllTheGoodMenAreGay gay]]. ([[FalseDichotomy Ignoring that]] men can be attracted to women '''and''' still view and respect partners (or even see them as fellow human beings). As such, those with a "Het is Ew" attitude in regards to male sexuality may often cite this to promote lesbian relationships as not only being anything more "pure" and "authentic", but also as the hallmark than sex objects), whereas women [[AllWomenArePrudes are incapable of "real" empowered women. [[note]]With the implication that any strong, independent woman who likes men and willingly stays in a heterosexual relationship [[NoTrueScotsman isn't truly strong or independent, no matter how healthy and mutual the relationship is]].[[/note]] This sentiment is also why men tend not to show up in Yuri fanfics alongside some benevolent misogyny, as many straight males can internalize the belief that their sexuality and attraction acting perverted towards others]], so two girls can love each other to one another without any of that dirty, disgusting ''lust'' getting in the opposite sex way. This is inherently disrespectful and objectifying; thus, you'll often hear why the [[MemeticMutation memetic claim]] that "Yuri phrase]] "{{Yuri}} is the purest form of love" exists amongst male anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Finally there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Besides, {{Double Standard}}s regarding male and female sexuality may be involved as well: namely, the notion that the former is "dirty", [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation lustful]], and inherently exploitative towards women compared to the latter. There is the belief among some that heterosexual relationships are inherently impossible to be consensual because of this, and that the only way men can truly treat their female counterparts with genuine love, respect, and/or goodwill is to be either [[CelibateHero celibate]] or [[AllTheGoodMenAreGay gay]]. ([[FalseDichotomy Ignoring that]] men can be attracted to women '''and''' still view and respect them as fellow human beings). As such, those with a "Het is Ew" attitude in regards to male sexuality may often cite this to promote lesbian relationships as not only being more "pure" and "authentic", but also as the hallmark of "real" empowered women. [[note]]With the implication that any strong, independent woman who likes men and willingly stays in a heterosexual relationship [[NoTrueScotsman isn't truly strong or independent, no matter how healthy and mutual the relationship is]].[[/note]] This sentiment is also why men tend not to show up in Yuri fanfics alongside some benevolent misogyny, as many straight males can internalize the belief that their sexuality and attraction towards the opposite sex is inherently disrespectful and objectifying; thus, you'll often hear the [[MemeticMutation memetic claim]] that "Yuri is the purest form of love" amongst male anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Besides, {{Double Standard}}s regarding male and female sexuality may be involved as well: namely, the notion that the former is "dirty", [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation lustful]], and inherently exploitative towards women compared to the latter. There is the belief among some that heterosexual relationships are inherently impossible to be consensual because of this, and that the only way men can truly treat their female counterparts with genuine love, respect, and/or goodwill is to be either [[CelibateHero celibate]] or [[AllTheGoodMenAreGay gay]]. ([[FalseDichotomy Ignoring that]] men can be attracted to women '''and''' still view and respect them as fellow human beings). As such, those with a "Het is Ew" attitude in regards to male sexuality may often cite this to promote lesbian relationships as not only being more "pure" and "authentic", but also as the hallmark of "real" empowered women. [[note]]With the implication that any strong, independent woman who likes men and willingly stays in a heterosexual relationship [[NoTrueScotsman isn't truly strong or independent, no matter how healthy and mutual the relationship is]].[[/note]] This sentiment is also why men tend not to show up in Yuri fanfics alongside some benevolent misogyny, as many straight males can internalize the belief that their sexuality and attraction towards the opposite sex is inherently disrespectful and objectifying; thus, you'll often hear the [[MemeticMutation memetic claim]] that "Yuri is the purest form of love" amongst male anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Misandry ain't a fucking thing. Also, being heterosexual isn't the same as being feminine. Lipstick Lesbians exist.


Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as there is the assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Besides, {{Double Standard}}s regarding male and female sexuality may be involved as well: namely, the notion that the former is "dirty", [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation lustful]], and inherently exploitative towards women compared to the latter. There is the belief among some that heterosexual relationships are inherently impossible to be consensual because of this, and that the only way men can truly treat their female counterparts with genuine love, respect, and/or goodwill is to be either [[CelibateHero celibate]] or [[AllTheGoodMenAreGay gay]]. ([[FalseDichotomy Ignoring that]] men can be attracted to women '''and''' still view and respect them as fellow human beings). As such, those with a "Het is Ew" attitude in regards to male sexuality may often cite this to promote lesbian relationships as not only being more "pure" and "authentic", but also as the hallmark of [[RealWomenDontWearDresses "real" empowered women]]. [[note]]With the implication that any strong, independent woman who likes men and willingly stays in a heterosexual relationship [[NoTrueScotsman isn't truly strong or independent, no matter how healthy and mutual the relationship is]].[[/note]] This sentiment is also why men tend not to show up in Yuri fanfics alongside some benevolent misogyny, as many straight males can internalize the belief that their sexuality and attraction towards the opposite sex is inherently disrespectful and objectifying; thus, you'll often hear the [[MemeticMutation memetic claim]] that "Yuri is the purest form of love" amongst male anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.

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Finally, misandry is also an arguable factor, as Finally there is the problematic assumption [[AllGaysArePromiscuous that a male]] [[AllMenArePerverts cannot have emotional closeness]] [[ImAManICantHelpIt to anyone]] -- ''[[IncestYayShipping even family members]]'' -- [[AManIsAlwaysEager without sex being a factor]]. Besides, {{Double Standard}}s regarding male and female sexuality may be involved as well: namely, the notion that the former is "dirty", [[RomanceAndSexualitySeparation lustful]], and inherently exploitative towards women compared to the latter. There is the belief among some that heterosexual relationships are inherently impossible to be consensual because of this, and that the only way men can truly treat their female counterparts with genuine love, respect, and/or goodwill is to be either [[CelibateHero celibate]] or [[AllTheGoodMenAreGay gay]]. ([[FalseDichotomy Ignoring that]] men can be attracted to women '''and''' still view and respect them as fellow human beings). As such, those with a "Het is Ew" attitude in regards to male sexuality may often cite this to promote lesbian relationships as not only being more "pure" and "authentic", but also as the hallmark of [[RealWomenDontWearDresses "real" empowered women]].women. [[note]]With the implication that any strong, independent woman who likes men and willingly stays in a heterosexual relationship [[NoTrueScotsman isn't truly strong or independent, no matter how healthy and mutual the relationship is]].[[/note]] This sentiment is also why men tend not to show up in Yuri fanfics alongside some benevolent misogyny, as many straight males can internalize the belief that their sexuality and attraction towards the opposite sex is inherently disrespectful and objectifying; thus, you'll often hear the [[MemeticMutation memetic claim]] that "Yuri is the purest form of love" amongst male anime fans, with varying degrees of seriousness from those who espouse it.
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Some people are fans of {{Slash| Fic}} -- the {{Shipping}} of two same-sex characters from a fandom together. Some people take this a little further though; they don't just like Slash but also dislike the idea of Shipping two opposite sex people together, even if those doing the shipping are themselves straight. Indeed, it's wrong to think that only LGBT fans invoke this trope when they themselves are also open to het ships.

This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average straight fic is about heterosexual relationships. [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of MarySue {{Original Character}}s, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.

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Some people are fans of {{Slash| Fic}} SlashFic -- the {{Shipping}} of two same-sex characters from a fandom together. Some people take this a little further though; they don't just like Slash but also dislike the idea of Shipping two opposite sex people together, even if those doing the shipping are themselves straight. Indeed, it's wrong to think that only LGBT fans invoke this trope when they themselves are also open to het ships.

This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average straight fic is about heterosexual relationships. [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of MarySue {{Original Character}}s, CanonForeigner characters, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.
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Removing Double Standard + irrelevant Playboy comparison.


This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average SpaceOpera is about physics. And while it is true that there's a lack of queer representation in mainstream media, it's also true that ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}'' [[IReadItForTheArticles has high-quality articles]] [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of MarySue {{Original Character}}s, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.

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This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average SpaceOpera straight fic is about physics. And while it is true that there's a lack of queer representation in mainstream media, it's also true that ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}'' [[IReadItForTheArticles has high-quality articles]] heterosexual relationships. [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of MarySue {{Original Character}}s, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.
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"less is more valid" is literally the opposite of that Appeal to popularity.


This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality [[AppealToPopularity somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality]]. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average SpaceOpera is about physics. And while it is true that there's a lack of queer representation in mainstream media, it's also true that ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}'' [[IReadItForTheArticles has high-quality articles]] [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of MarySue {{Original Character}}s, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.

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This is a subculture-within-a-subculture. This can range from people who merely prefer to pair off every character they like with another of the same sex to the more extreme people who appear to argue that writing slash is a politically liberating act, or that the ubiquity of heterosexuality [[AppealToPopularity somehow makes it less "valid" than homosexuality]].homosexuality. Queer fans, for example, may have an averse reaction to the heteronormativity of the media and respond by augmenting queer representation in a work. [[note]] The counterargument is that [[SturgeonsLaw most]] slash is about as realistic about same-sex relationships as your average SpaceOpera is about physics. And while it is true that there's a lack of queer representation in mainstream media, it's also true that ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}'' [[IReadItForTheArticles has high-quality articles]] [[/note]] Occasionally it can be an unexpected by-product of backlash against the addition of MarySue {{Original Character}}s, or authors pairing up the male characters who are perceived to be more interesting than the [[SatelliteLoveInterest female]] [[StrangledByTheRedString ones]]. [[note]] Ironically, this means that multiple female fanfic writers are even ''worse'' about female character inclusion than the mainstream media producers [[/note]] When males began taking up writing fanfiction more, they often did the same for female/female pairings against the background of WishFulfillment and Harem fics, especially if they perceived the main male character to be a blank slate. This led to a widespread perception among FanFic writers that SlashFic is automatically of "higher" quality than a het pairing, which was often [[{{Hypocrite}} assumed to be the (usually female) author's]] WishFulfillment.
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renamed again


The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors for daring to give their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics frequently show up in the slash genre as well, with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Wimpification}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]. The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).

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The extreme versions are the kind who write hate mail to authors for daring to give their shipped characters an opposite-sex spouse and impose DieForOurShip on any opposite-sex character who so much as has sexual tension with one of "their" characters, often in the most sadistic and humiliating ways. Other times, people proclaiming that [[TitleDrop Het Is Ew]] are just tired of the ubiquity of het romance plots in all variety of fiction and the tropes that go with them, particularly the stereotyping of everyone involved. (Ironically, said heteronormative romance dynamics frequently show up in the slash genre as well, with [[{{Seme}} one character]] still playing a stereotypical male role, while [[{{Uke}} the other]] [[{{Wimpification}} [[{{Ukefication}} takes]] a stereotypically female one, sometimes up to [[MisterSeahorse getting pregnant]]. The Butch and Femme dynamic is also popular in Yuri ships with the same roles mentioned showing up everywhere.) The sentiment is also somewhat common among jaded and vengeful subsets of queer/trans people, who take to describing straight characters with the same disdain that queer relationships are often treated with. Despite this, the intensity of the extremists has been known to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings scare artists away]] or make them [[WriterRevolt outright refuse]] to draw yaoi or yuri (or at least force them to write under a different name).
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Everyone Is Gay is being merged into Cast Full Of Gay.


For fanfic writers who are not interested in the extremist hate invested in DieForOurShip, they instead often Ship the person [[FagHag "in the way"]] with a [[ShipMates different person]] in the cast who is the same sex as them; i.e., if they Ship Bob and Dave, but Alice is Bob's {{Canon}} girlfriend, they write fics about Alice realizing she actually loved her best friend Carol all along, rather than about Alice dying in a house fire. This isn't universally true, but it's not uncommon, either. Basically, when these fans write FanFic, EveryoneIsGay.

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For fanfic writers who are not interested in the extremist hate invested in DieForOurShip, they instead often Ship the person [[FagHag "in the way"]] with a [[ShipMates different person]] in the cast who is the same sex as them; i.e., if they Ship Bob and Dave, but Alice is Bob's {{Canon}} girlfriend, they write fics about Alice realizing she actually loved her best friend Carol all along, rather than about Alice dying in a house fire. This isn't universally true, but it's not uncommon, either. Basically, when these fans write FanFic, EveryoneIsGay.
[[CastFullOfGay everyone is gay]].

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