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* ''Franchise/DragonBall'': Gohan, while being in several life or death fights throughout the series where he usually acted on instinct (and was never powerful enough to kill enemies on his own outside of filler arcs), was faced with the decision to consciously kill Cell during the Cell games. Despite being brutalized by Cell and watching him torment all the other Z fighters and threaten the planet, Gohan doesn't gain the will to kill until Android 16 encourages him that in this instance it's okay before being crushed to death just a few feet away from him. This turning point pushes him into a sustained Super Saiyan 2 form for the first time.

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* ''Franchise/DragonBall'': Gohan, while being in several life or death fights throughout the series where he usually acted on instinct (and was never powerful enough to kill enemies on his own outside of filler arcs), was faced with the decision to consciously kill Cell during the Cell games. Despite being brutalized by Cell and watching him torment all the other Z fighters and threaten the planet, Gohan doesn't gain the will to kill until Android 16 encourages him reaches him. He explains that people like Cell will never listen to words, and that Gohan must kill Cell in this instance it's okay before being crushed order to death just a few feet away from him. This turning point pushes him into a sustained Super Saiyan 2 form for the first time.protect everything he loves.


* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' involves an Alternate Universe version of the League called the Justice Lords. At the beginning, we see a flashback showing Superman make this decision and killing Lex Luthor at Luthor's goading when ComicBook/TheFlash [[spoiler:seemingly]] dies. After that the League has no problem killing (or lobotomising) criminals, justifying it as the greater good. They proceed to form a peaceful but ruthless dictatorship across Earth, punishing even small crimes harshly. Superman lobotomizing every SuperVillain winds up biting him in the ass when he does it to Doomsday, the monster that becomes stronger every time you kill him. Doomsday comes back to terrorize the Lords only for them to find that his skull has become far more durable in the meantime.

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' involves an Alternate Universe version of the League called the Justice Lords. At the beginning, we see a flashback showing that Earth's Superman make this decision and killing kill Lex Luthor at Luthor's goading when because he killed ComicBook/TheFlash [[spoiler:seemingly]] dies. and caused another World War. After that the League Lords has no problem killing (or lobotomising) criminals, justifying it as the greater good. They proceed to form a peaceful but ruthless dictatorship across Earth, punishing even small crimes harshly. Superman Interestingly, Lord-Superman lobotomizing every SuperVillain winds up biting him League-Superman in the ass when he does it to Doomsday, the monster that becomes stronger every time you kill him. Doomsday later comes back to terrorize with a grudge against Superman (albeit the Lords wrong one), and he tries Lord-Superman's tactic only for them him to find that his skull has become far more durable in the meantime.


"[[FinishingEachOthersSentences ... And a woman?]]"\\
"[[MenstrualMenace Blood]]."''

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"[[FinishingEachOthersSentences ... "... And a woman?]]"\\
"[[MenstrualMenace Blood]].
woman?"\\
"Blood.
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"... And a woman?"\\

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"... "[[FinishingEachOthersSentences ... And a woman?"\\woman?]]"\\


* ComicBook/CaptainBritain (aka Brian Braddock) was a fairly straightforward example of TheCape... until the day his nemesis, Slaymaster, fought Brian's sister [[ComicBook/{{Psylocke}} Betsy]] and beat her to within an inch of her life before ripping out her eyes. Slaymaster's [[FamousLastWords last words]] -- spoken as Brian Braddock stood over him, holding a large rock -- were: "Fool! You have not the strength to kill..."

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* ComicBook/CaptainBritain (aka Brian Braddock) was a fairly straightforward example of TheCape... until the day his nemesis, Slaymaster, fought Brian's sister [[ComicBook/{{Psylocke}} Betsy]] and beat her to within an inch of her life before ripping out her eyes. Slaymaster's [[FamousLastWords last words]] -- spoken as Brian Braddock stood over him, holding a large rock -- were: "Fool! [[TemptingFate You have not the strength to kill..."
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* ComicBook/CaptainBritain (aka Brian Braddock) was a fairly straightforward example of TheCape... until the day his nemesis, Slaymaster, fought Brian's sister [[ComicBook/{{Psylocke}} Betsy]] and beat her to within an inch of her life before ripping out her eyes. Slaymaster's [[FamousLastWords last words]] -- spoken as Brian Braddock stood over him, holding a large rock -- were: "Fool! You have not the strength to kill..."


-->-- The Luteces and Daisy Fitzroy, ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite: Burial at Sea, Episode 2''

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-->-- The '''The Luteces and Daisy Fitzroy, Fitzroy''', ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite: Burial at Sea, Episode 2''


** Jesse Pinkman does not want to kill Gale at all, and when he's got the chance, he spends over a minute pointing the gun at him in tears before finally pulling the trigger. As opposed to Walter, Jesse never quite gets over it.

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** Jesse Pinkman does not want to kill Gale at all, and when he's got the chance, he spends over a minute pointing the gun at him in tears before finally pulling the trigger. As opposed to Walter, Jesse never quite gets over it. Like Walt though, Jesse does get comfortable with murder as well, killing 2 more without any sort of HeroicBSOD during the series.


** [[TeenTitans Raven]] in ''Fanfic/CoincidenceAndMisunderstandings'', who accepts her [[spoiler:demonic heritage]] as a part of herself and subsequently becomes darker in mind and body - this is marked by her decision to mentally kill [[spoiler:Dr. Light]] via GoMadFromTheRevelation at the story's end to prevent him from harming anyone else, though she regrets this when she realises that the Titans wanted to interrogate him.

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** [[TeenTitans Raven]] {{ComicBook/Raven}} in ''Fanfic/CoincidenceAndMisunderstandings'', who accepts her [[spoiler:demonic heritage]] as a part of herself and subsequently becomes darker in mind and body - this is marked by her decision to mentally kill [[spoiler:Dr. Light]] via GoMadFromTheRevelation at the story's end to prevent him from harming anyone else, though she regrets this when she realises that the Titans wanted to interrogate him.



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* In ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'', this is one interpretation of Hamlet's character when he stalls after being called to avenge his father's murder. At one point he rants about how he's standing around talking about killing the murderer rather than actually doing anything:
--> ''"Why, what an ass am I! This is most brave,\\
That I, the son of a dear father murdered,\\
Prompted to my revenge by heaven and hell,\\
Must, like a whore, unpack my heart with words\\
And fall a-cursing..."''


* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'': The eponymous ''Sweeney Todd'' was originally a wronged man looking to get his daughter back from an evil judge and, who abducted the girl after raping Sweeney's wife and sending Sweeney himself to [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]] on a trumped-up charge. That and kill the Judge and his right hand man for taking everything from him. That changes when a charlatan named Pirelli recognizes Sweeney as an escaped convict and threatens to turn him in, driving Sweeney to kill him. Sweeney has never killed before, but he shows no remorse for this act, deciding it was necessary to protect his cover. Sweeney finds he has no qualms about continuing to kill, and launches himself into a frenzied campaign of revenge against the world that wronged him by becoming a SerialKiller and handing the bodies over to hEhis friend Mrs. Lovett for, er, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies disposal]].

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* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'': The eponymous ''Sweeney Todd'' was originally a wronged man looking to get his daughter back from an evil judge and, who abducted the girl after raping Sweeney's wife and sending Sweeney himself to [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]] on a trumped-up charge. That and kill the Judge and his right hand man for taking everything from him. That changes when a charlatan named Pirelli recognizes Sweeney as an escaped convict and threatens to turn him in, driving Sweeney to kill him. Sweeney has never killed before, but he shows no remorse for this act, deciding it was necessary to protect his cover. Sweeney finds he has no qualms about continuing to kill, and launches himself into a frenzied campaign of revenge against the world that wronged him by becoming a SerialKiller and handing the bodies over to hEhis his friend Mrs. Lovett for, er, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies disposal]].


* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'': The eponymous ''Sweeney Todd'' was originally a wronged man looking to get his daughter back from an evil judge, who abducted the girl after raping Sweeney's wife and sending Sweeney himself to [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]] on a trumped-up charge. That all changes when a charlatan named Pirelli recognizes Sweeney as an escaped convict and threatens to turn him in, driving Sweeney to kill him. Sweeney has never killed before, but he shows no remorse for this act, having decided it was necessary to protect his cover. When his friend Mrs. Lovett proposes disposing of the body by baking it into meat pies, Sweeney finds he has no qualms about continuing to kill, and launches himself into a frenzied campaign of revenge against the world that wronged him by becoming a SerialKiller and handing the bodies over to Mrs. Lovett for, er, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies disposal]].

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* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'': The eponymous ''Sweeney Todd'' was originally a wronged man looking to get his daughter back from an evil judge, judge and, who abducted the girl after raping Sweeney's wife and sending Sweeney himself to [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]] on a trumped-up charge. That all and kill the Judge and his right hand man for taking everything from him. That changes when a charlatan named Pirelli recognizes Sweeney as an escaped convict and threatens to turn him in, driving Sweeney to kill him. Sweeney has never killed before, but he shows no remorse for this act, having decided deciding it was necessary to protect his cover. When his friend Mrs. Lovett proposes disposing of the body by baking it into meat pies, Sweeney finds he has no qualms about continuing to kill, and launches himself into a frenzied campaign of revenge against the world that wronged him by becoming a SerialKiller and handing the bodies over to hEhis friend Mrs. Lovett for, er, [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies disposal]].

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->''"What is the difference between a girl..."\\
"... And a woman?"\\
"[[MenstrualMenace Blood]]."''
-->-- The Luteces and Daisy Fitzroy, ''VideoGame/BioshockInfinite: Burial at Sea, Episode 2''


* In ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "The Most Toys," Kivas Fajo kidnaps Data, keeping him in a cell that Data cannot hack or break his way out of, and wears a belt that emits a force field preventing Data from physically touching him. Eventually, Data escapes with the help of a henchwomen, who finally understands despite years of loyal service, she is very much expendable. Before they fully get away, Fajo catches them and uses a brutal disruptor to kill the woman. Fajo then turns to Data who is armed with a similar disruptor. Data demands that Fajo surrenders, but Fajo refuses and explains that he will kill as many people as necessary to make Data do what he wants, certain that Data's programming prevents him from killing him instead. Data, however, calmly considers his options for a moment. As Fajo has showed a willingness to kill and has threatened to do it again, he presents a clear and active threat to others, so for Data there is absolutely no question that he has a moral obligation to stop Fajo. But Fajo has showed a complete unwillingness to be reasoned with and has actively refused to surrender, and Data cannot physically subdue him due to the force field. With all this in mind, Data concludes that there is only one logical way to resolve this dilemma:

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* In ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "The Most Toys," Kivas Fajo kidnaps Data, keeping him in a cell that Data cannot hack or break his way out of, and wears a belt that emits a force field preventing Data from physically touching him. Eventually, Data escapes with the help of a henchwomen, who finally understands despite years of loyal service, she is very much expendable. Before they fully get away, Fajo catches them and uses a brutal disruptor to kill the woman. Fajo then turns to Data who is armed with a similar disruptor. Data demands that Fajo surrenders, but Fajo refuses and explains that he will kill as many people as necessary to make Data do what he wants, certain that Data's programming prevents him from killing him instead. Data, however, calmly considers his options for a moment. As Fajo has showed a willingness to kill and has threatened to do it again, he presents a clear and active threat to others, so for Data there is absolutely no question that he has a moral obligation to stop Fajo. But Fajo has showed a complete unwillingness to be reasoned with and has actively refused to surrender, and Data cannot physically subdue him due to the force field. With all this in mind, Data concludes that there is only one logical and moral way to resolve this dilemma:


* In the ''Burial at Sea'' DLC of ''Videogame/BioshockInfinite'', [[spoiler:Daisy Fitzroy's attempt to murder a child]] is retconned into :an act set up by [[spoilerboth her and the Lutece twins]] in order to give [[spoiler:Elizabeth]] the will to kill and thus the will to oppose Comstock.

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* In the ''Burial at Sea'' DLC of ''Videogame/BioshockInfinite'', [[spoiler:Daisy Fitzroy's attempt to murder a child]] is retconned into :an [[spoiler:an act set up by [[spoilerboth both her and the Lutece twins]] in order to give [[spoiler:Elizabeth]] the will to kill and thus the will to oppose Comstock.

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