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** ''Phantom'' also made the title character [[AdaptationalHeroism somewhat more sympathetic than his literary counterpart]]. This was not widely objected to at the time -- the Phantom remains a TragicVillain, with a sufficiently intimidating presence and a body count, and he ultimately does the right thing in the end. But by ''Love Never Dies'', the narrative blatantly [[DracoInLeatherPants romanticizes the Phantom]] and downplays his outcast status by giving him followers in the form of the Girys, which causes him to come off as an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic KarmaHoudini who we're still supposed to side with over [[RonTheDeathEater Raoul]].

** Many of the complaints raised about ''Ride/StitchsGreatEscape'' are traced back to its location's previous tenant, the better received ''Ride/ExtraTERRORestrialAlienEncounter''. As the title made clear, the attraction was horror-themed, and uncomfortable shoulder restraints, loud noises, and periods of darkness contributed to a chilling atmosphere. Re-using that in a more child-friendly and comedic manner for something based on an [[Westernanimation/LiloAndStitch animated feature]] just doesn't work, [[UncertainAudience as small children are scared by the distressing elements, and older audiences were irritated by the unpleasant and gross humor]].

* SpriteComics in general are considered the trash heap of the internet, since there's the idea they were made with very little production value (usually only a few sprite sheets, MS Paint and a [[Website/ComicGenesis keenspace]] account). This, of course, is also true of the earlier, actually ''good'' examples of the sub-genre, like ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'' and ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater''. The big difference is, while those two used the sprites and the plot of the games they were parodying as the basis for the comic, they were much more interested in showing off the creators' style of humor, rather than "getting done with" the plot of the games in a visually-uninteresting manner.

** While this abridged series was always a very funny and clever show, it did sometimes rely a bit too much on running gags and pop culture references, even if there wasn't necessarily a joke attached to the reference. Those who don't like the later seasons will usually say it's because the episodes became nothing ''but'' running gags and references.

* ''WebAnimation/{{Hellaverse}}'':
** While it's a heartwarming and funny episode, "Loo Loo Land" has many of the hallmarks that would make the series much more divisive in the second season of WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss, such as IMP taking a job outside their usual profession, Loona having little to no screentime, an increase in character-based drama, and greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters. Fortunately, all of these aspects are well-balanced in this episode, but not so much in later ones.
** The series has received plenty of criticism regarding the [[EmbodimentOfVice depictions]] of the SevenDeadlySins of the Hellaverse as being {{Reasonable Authority Figure}}s (such as Beelzebub, the sin of Gluttony, encouraging extreme consumption with the only people who can handle it and Asmodeus, the sin of Lust, condemning {{Love Potion}}s on the grounds that [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil "lust should not be about force"]] in direct defiance of most classical depictions of Lust also including rape. This was present since the pilot of ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' where Charlie Morningstar's ambition is rehabilitating Sinner demons so they can go to Heaven, the difference being that Charlie was shown to be a uniquely well-meaning person in a WorldOfJerkass. Since the introduction of numerous demonic characters who are at the very worst morally complex people like normal humans, people have argued Charlie does not stand out as the protagonist anymore and that having AmbiguouslyEvil demon characters cheapens the initial overall atmosphere of Hell from being a CrapsackWorld to AHellOfATime.

** The series has received plenty of criticism regarding the [[EmbodimentOfVice depictions]] of the SevenDeadlySins of the Hellaverse as being {{Reasonable Authority Figure}}s (such as Beelzebub, the sin of Gluttony, encourages extreme consumption with the only people who can handle it and Asmodeus, the sin of Lust, condemning {{Love Potion}}s on the grounds that [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil "lust should not be about force"]] in direct defiance of most classical depictions of Lust also including rape. This was present since the pilot of ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' where Charlie Morningstar's ambition is rehabilitating Sinner demons so they can go to Heaven, the difference being that Charlie was shown to be a uniquely well-meaning person in a WorldOfJerkass. Since the introduction of numerous demonic characters who are at the very worst morally complex people like normal humans, people have argued Charlie does not stand out as the protagonist anymore and that having AmbiguouslyEvil demon characters cheapens the initial overall atmosphere of Hell from being a CrapsackWorld to AHellOfATime.

** While it's a heartwarming and funny episode, "Loo Loo Land" has many of the hallmarks that would make the series much more divisive in the second season of "WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss", such as IMP taking a job outside their usual profession, Loona having little to no screentime, an increase in character-based drama, and greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters. Fortunately, all of these aspects are well-balanced in this episode, but not so much in later ones.

* ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'':
** While it's a heartwarming and funny episode, "Loo Loo Land" has many of the hallmarks that would make the series much more divisive in the second season, such as IMP taking a job outside their usual profession, Loona having little to no screentime, an increase in character-based drama, and greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters. Fortunately, all of these aspects are well-balanced in this episode, but not so much in later ones.
** The series has received plenty of criticism regarding the [[EmbodimentOfVice depictions]] of the SevenDeadlySins of the ''WebAnimation/{{Hellaverse}}'' as being {{Reasonable Authority Figure}}s (such as Beelzebub, the sin of Gluttony, encourages extreme consumption with the only people who can handle it and Asmodeus, the sin of Lust, condemning {{Love Potion}}s on the grounds that [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil "lust should not be about force"]] in direct defiance of most classical depictions of Lust also including rape. This was present in the ''WebAnimation/{{Hellaverse}}'' since the pilot of ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' where Charlie Morningstar's ambition is rehabilitating Sinner demons so they can go to Heaven, the difference being that Charlie was shown to be a uniquely well-meaning person in a WorldOfJerkass. Since the introduction of numerous demonic characters who are at the very worst morally complex people like normal humans, people have argued Charlie does not stand out as the protagonist anymore and that having AmbiguouslyEvil demon characters cheapens the initial overall atmosphere of Hell from being a CrapsackWorld to AHellOfATime.

* One of the major complaints for ''Toys/AmericanGirl'' products in the late 2010s and early 2020s was the overuse of solid molded plastic shoes with dolls, as opposed to the nicer, faux leather realistic shoes of the past; this was pointed out as a sign of Mattel cutting corners to save money. However, the first three characters ''all'' had poorly made shoes themselves; Samantha and Molly both came with the same style of black plastic molded Mary Janes, and Kirsten came with soft-soled pleather boots that were more like booties.

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* A case of "Author Original Sin" occurs with Creator/CoeurAlAran, a writer of multiple ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' stories. His earlier works faced some criticism for having inconsistent themes (''Fanfic/ProfessorArc''), making the characters more selfish and obnoxious than they are in the original (''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11518796/1/From-Beyond From Beyond]]'') and using DeusExMachina to conclude plots (''Fanfic/NotThisTimeFate''). Most of these complaints, however, were limited to singular instances and rarely ruined the readers' enjoyment of the stories. ''Fanfic/ForgedDestiny'' took all the above-mentioned flaws, multiplied them and combined them together, resulting in a story that is frequently accused of featuring {{Ass Pull}}s, enforcing messages that heavily [[BrokenAesop contradict each other]] and having an entire cast of UnintentionallyUnsympathetic characters.

* One of the problems ''Webcomic/DominicDeegan'' faced as the strip went on was that Dominic was too manipulative and a bit too able to plan everything out. But in the beginning, the audience would at least be aware that he was up to something with some hints sprinkled about, so the reveal never came out of left field and made sense in hindsight. The schemes were also pulled on HateSink targets, making his plans a well-deserved smackdown on those who deserved it. It was the "Snowsong" arc that it got out of control, as the hints Dominic was up to something the entire time were far more vauge until the reveal explained them and his target was a more morally gray character whom the point was redeeming instead of defeating. So when that arc neared its end and it took a week of exposition to recap all the information the audience wasn't shown to make sense of the story, that was when it was agreed things got out of hand and they had Dominic [[WhatTheHellHero called out on his actions]]. The sin was ultimately addressed by having Dominic be more morally conscious about the use of his powers, putting the focus on more of the cast so he wasn't in the middle of everything and having the GreaterScopeVillain simply be too alien and powerful to go up against in his usual manner.

** The series has received plenty of criticism regarding the [[EmbodimentOfVice depictions]] of the SevenDeadlySins of the ''WebAnimation/{{Hellaverse}}'' as being {{Reasonable Authority Figure}}s (such as Beelzebub, the sin of Gluttony, encourages extreme consumption with the only people who can handle it and Asmodeus, the sin of Lust, condemning {{Love Potion}}s on the grounds that [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil "lust should not be about force"]] (in direct defiance of most classical depictions of Lust also including rape). This was present in the ''WebAnimation/{{Hellaverse}}'' since the pilot of ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' where Charlie Morningstar's ambition is rehabilitating Sinner demons so they can go to Heaven, the difference being that Charlie was shown to be a uniquely well-meaning person in a WorldOfJerkass. Since the introduction of numerous demonic characters who are at the very worst morally complex people like normal humans, people have argued Charlie does not stand out as the protagonist anymore and that having AmbiguouslyEvil demon characters cheapens the initial overall atmosphere of Hell from being a CrapsackWorld to AHellOfATime.

* ''WebVideo/StupidMarioBrothers'' can trace a lot of the problems of Seasons 4-5 back to show's highpoints, specifically:

** On that note, Mr. Enter was no stranger to politics and the like, despite even admitting he wasn't the best educated in the area, dropping his two cents on subjects like standardized testing, gun control, overpopulation, and the {{double standard}}s of society. The thing is, those videos tied into his prior reviews on AnimatedShows that brought up the subjects, and were also motivated more out of concern for those affected rather than typical "WorldGoneMad" griping. This reached its breaking point in his review for ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', in which he criticized the movie for not mentioning [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror 9/11]], even though the movie is set in ''Canada'', a nation that had less of an impact of where 9/11's aftermath was, and even the mere mention of it could clash with the light tone of the film. The rampant MemeticMutation from the controversial review made sure that he was known as the "''Turning Red'' 9/11 Guy" outside of the animation community, and even those within who already had a shaky trust with him broke ties afterwards.

** ''FranchiseOriginalSin/{{Batman}}''

** ''Homestuck'''s ongoing continuation, ''[[Webcomic/Homestuck2 Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon]]'', has been taking the series' characteristic exploration of narrative tropes even further, having split the narrative in [[AlternateContinuity two separate timelines]] exploring polar opposite extremes: One that takes the world and its characters [[DarkerAndEdgier far too seriously and dramatically]] (symbolized as "Meat"), and one that's [[DenserAndWackier constantly whipping them into the]] [[Main/SoapOpera soap-opera-esque]] {{melodrama}} [[DenserAndWackier of fanfiction to a comical degree]] (symbolized as "Candy"). Although the entire affair has labeled itself as "[[LooseCanon Dubiously Canon]]" (meaning it's more or less an open invitation to [[FanonDiscontinuity consider it non-canon]] and leave the original comic's run wrapped up nicely), many fans are starting to have negative reactions, having become lost and confused by the [[KudzuPlot exponentially]] [[CanonWelding compounded]], [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall seemingly self-diluted]] [[MetaFiction metanarrative]]. The [[Literature/TheHomestuckEpilogues epilogues]] (which are comprised of the aforementioned "Meat"/"Candy" timelines) [[OlderThanTheyThink had already started this trend]], however with ''Beyond Canon'' being labeled as a direct sequel (or at least perceived as such by those who disregard its "''Beyond Canon''" subtitle or its [[WordOfGod official "dubiously canon" status]]) it has been drawing more criticism by those who either believe these elements to have stemmed from it or from those who classified the epilogues as strictly non-canon to begin with.

Rule of thumb: if you can imagine a reboot or spiritual successor without the element in question, then it qualifies. If you can't, then it doesn't. Secondary rule of thumb: If it wasn't visible in episodes prior to ones that garner complaints about it, it's an AssPull or a {{Retool}} gone bad, not a Franchise Original Sin. Compare with FirstInstallmentWins, OverusedRunningGag, DiscreditedMeme (a more specific variety of this where a joke gets used so often that everyone gets sick of it) and TheArtifact (which remains in place despite no longer serving its original purpose). Often goes along with {{Sequelitis}}. Contrast OnceOriginalNowOverdone, when overexposure makes the original seem less good in hindsight. See also BorrowingFromTheSisterSeries, if the sin originated in a different series by the same creator and was copied over.

* One of the many criticisms suffered by the [[Film/DearEvanHansen film adaptation]] of ''Theatre/DearEvanHansen'' was how Creator/BenPlatt was simply [[DawsonCasting too old to reprise his role]] as the teenaged titular character. As it so happens, Platt was already 21 years old when he first originated the role in the original stage play. However, Platt still looked young enough at the time to be realistically easy to mistake for a teenager in conjunction with his acting ability, and the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief is much easier to maintain in the inherent theatricality of UsefulNotes/{{Broadway|AndTheWestEnd}}. In the film, on the other hand, not only is Platt much visibly older when he [[RoleReprise reprises the role]] at the age of 27, but the different standards for suspension of disbelief in live-action film compared to stage theater made it a lot harder for critics and viewers to take Platt seriously as a teenage character.

* ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'': While it's a heartwarming and funny episode, "Loo Loo Land" has many of the hallmarks that would make the series much more divisive in the second season, such as IMP taking a job outside their usual profession, Loona having little to no screentime, an increase in character-based drama, and greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters. Fortunately, all of these aspects are well-balanced in this episode, but not so much in later ones.

Rule of thumb: if you can imagine a reboot or spiritual successor without the element in question, then it qualifies. If you can't, then it doesn't. Secondary rule of thumb: If it wasn't visible in episodes prior to ones that garner complaints about it, it's an AssPull or a {{Retool}} gone bad, not a Franchise Original Sin. Compare with FirstInstallmentWins, OverusedRunningGag, DiscreditedMeme (a more specific variety of this where a joke gets used so often that everyone gets sick of it) and TheArtifact (which remains in place despite no longer serving its original purpose). Often goes along with {{Sequelitis}}. Contrast SeinfeldIsUnfunny, when overexposure makes the original seem less good in hindsight. See also BorrowingFromTheSisterSeries, if the sin originated in a different series by the same creator and was copied over.

* ''WebVideo/{{PIEGUYRULZ}}'' [[InvokedTrope invokes this]] with his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJR_pzvD4EI assessment]] of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' versus ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' where he talks about the flaws of the former that were apparent since the beginning, but were ignored because [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny there wasn't anything quite like it on TV at the time.]] He even compares it to breaking up with someone, then realizing the flaws that weren't there with the newfound perspective.

** It was pretty obvious from the beginning that Doug Walker has basically no formal education in film or film analysis; going back to his first reviews, many of them had pretty shallow criticism, [[CowboyBeBopAtHisComputer bad research]], or him missing the point. It usually wasn't so problematic in his early days because he was both [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny one of the only games in town in terms of video-based film reviews and analysis, especially considering his schedule]], and he (by nature of his format) generally chose obscure and/or critically panned films or TV shows that were soft targets for criticism and not widely discussed or defended, like ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' or ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie''. When he started doing reviews of recent or popular films, the limitations of his style and skills as a reviewer became a lot more evident, especially with the dozens of film critique and review channels by people who actually studied film professionally or as a hobby, be they students, critics, or even filmmakers, that have popped up in the intervening years. All of this came to a head with his widely-panned review/parody of the 1982 film adaptation of Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall'', which received plentiful criticism for providing only surface-level analysis of the movie, failing to demonstrate proper research (such as apparently ignoring the fact that the album predated the movie by roughly 3 years), and missing much of the point of the original album. Even in light of Walker making it clear that he himself enjoyed the album and simply thought the movie was a bit full of itself at times, his video on ''The Wall'' has been touted as a microcosm of several long-persisting issues with his content that made themselves more than apparent here. It doesn't help that the focus of the show has obviously shifted from laughing at the character's bad critiques to expecting the audience to take his word as gospel no matter what, nor does the fact that Doug apparently disregards his own criticisms whenever he feels like it.

** The series has always made use of the JigsawPuzzlePlot as part of its appeal, with information about the world or important characters being sparse and revealed over time. For example, the series OpeningMonologue is given by an unknown character revealed to be the BigBad at the end of Volume 3. 3 volumes later, her and her main rival Ozpin's backstory, as well as the context of their war and the existence of the world of Remnant, were revealed to both the main characters and audience in a WholeEpisodeFlashback. But by later volumes, some of the remaining unanswered questions, like what said BigBad actually wants, why she and Ozpin fight in secret, certain points in characters' backstories, or what the two unseen relics do have begun to grate on viewers, who feel that not knowing these hurts their emotional connection to the story. The show has seemingly passed up chances to answer these questions (the aforementioned WholeEpisodeFlashback left many unanswered), and some important characters have taken their secrets to their graves. The characters themselves also seem to rarely discuss these questions or ask them of those who do know more, making them seem disinterested in their own world and conflict.

* Web Animation
** ''[[FranchiseOriginalSin/Supermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers SMG4]]''

* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The show as a whole received a lot of backlash after Volume 5 due to awkward dialogue, stilted writing, and lackluster fight scenes. However, the show had rather awkward dialogue and stilted writing since it first debuted; it's just that the fight sequences were so over-the-top and downright enjoyable that no one really cared about these problems. Combined with the passing of the well-loved series creator, Creator/MontyOum, very few people were willing to criticize the show. However, thanks to the declining quality of the fight animations in the fifth volume (to the point where several of them had to be done [[BattleDiscretionShot off screen]]) and putting a greater emphasis on lengthy scenes of exposition, these flaws became a lot more noticeable.

** FranchiseOriginalSin/{{Disney}}

** ''FranchiseOriginalSin/{{Disney}}''

** ''FranchiseOriginalSin/MarvelCinematicUniverse''

This takes its name from "original sin", an idea posited in the ''Literature/{{Confessions}}'' that all of humanity's desire to do evil came from Adam's decision to disobey {{God}} in the Literature/BookOfGenesis. Just replace Adam with "the first installment" and humanity with "all the sequels" and ''voila.''