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Subtrope of WeUsedToBeFriends and DysfunctionalFamily. Contrast ThickerThanWater. Also see BigScrewedUpFamily and FriendsAreChosenFamilyArent.

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Subtrope of WeUsedToBeFriends and DysfunctionalFamily. Contrast ThickerThanWater. Also see BigScrewedUpFamily and FriendsAreChosenFamilyArent.
FriendsAreChosenFamilyArent. It frequently overlaps with ProdigalFamily, when estranged family members showing up after a long time complicates a character's life.

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This trope is based on when family members, for whatever reason, end up fighting one another. Generally, this is because of one member making a HeelFaceTurn or the [[FaceHeelTurn inverse]], but can often happen due to someone manipulating another as in DeceptiveLegacy and InsidiousRumorMill. This rarely if ever comes up in works where StatusQuoIsGod. If a family member changes sides, then they are fighting their former family until the series ends or someone ends up dead. See BigBrotherBully, CainAndAbel, AbusiveParents, ArchnemesisDad, HatesTheirParent, GruesomeGrandparent, and EvilUncle for examples of characters that tend to end up here.

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This trope is based on when family members, for whatever reason, end up fighting one another. Generally, this is because of one member making a HeelFaceTurn or the [[FaceHeelTurn inverse]], but can often happen due to someone manipulating another as in DeceptiveLegacy and InsidiousRumorMill. InsidiousRumorMill.

This rarely if ever comes up in works where StatusQuoIsGod. If a family member changes sides, then they are fighting their former family until the series ends or someone ends up dead. See BigBrotherBully, CainAndAbel, AbusiveParents, ArchnemesisDad, HatesTheirParent, GruesomeGrandparent, and EvilUncle for examples of characters that tend to end up here.
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*''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'': The core conflict of the game is a battle between a father and son over their beliefs. Haytham the Templar father is trying to show the dangers of given [[DemocracyIsBad "the people" a semblance of power]] while Conner the assassin son is trying to demonstrate [[DemocracyIsFlawed that you have to fight to ensure freedom and peace for all]]. And given that they picked sides in a ForeverWar, it is a conflict that goes from words to blades.
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** The sisters Abby a.k.a. Numbuh Five and her older sister Cree, formerly Numbuh 11. Back when Cree was still a KND operative, she and Abby were as tight as could possibly be, with Cree even being the prior owner of Abby's hat. However, in present day, Cree is now a teen and a traitor to the KND, as well as being a common minion of [[BigBad Father's]], with the two now being bitter enemies.

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** The Lincoln sisters Abby a.k.a. Numbuh Five and her older sister Cree, formerly Numbuh 11.Eleven. Back when Cree was still a KND operative, she and Abby were as tight as could possibly be, with Cree even being the prior owner of Abby's hat. However, in present day, [[FallenHero Cree is now a teen and a traitor to the KND, KND]], as well as being a common minion of [[BigBad Father's]], with the two now being bitter enemies.
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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'': Moses and Rameses are very close at the start of the movie, with Moses even trying to defend him from their father. Even after Moses returns many years later, both want to continue their close relationship. However, due to Moses being the one who has the free the slaves, he is forced to do worse and worse things to the people Rameses rules over as Rameses continues to refuse, despite Moses begging him to. Finally, after the final plague which results in the death of [[spoiler: every firstborn son in Egypt]], Rameses lets the slaves go. However, at the crossing of the sea, Rameses returns to try and kill all the slaves, Moses included, making it clear things are over between the two former brothers.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'': Moses and Rameses are very close at the start of the movie, with Moses even trying to defend him from their father. Even after Moses returns many years later, both want to continue their close relationship. However, due to Moses being the one who has the to free the slaves, he is forced to do worse and worse things to the people Rameses rules over as Rameses continues to refuse, despite Moses begging him to. Finally, after the final plague which results in the death of [[spoiler: every firstborn son in Egypt]], Rameses lets the slaves go. However, at the crossing of the sea, Rameses returns to try and kill all the slaves, Moses included, making it clear things are over between the two former brothers.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' gives us Zuko and Iroh. Both were once close with [[BigBad Ozai]] and [[TheDragon Azula]], but following Zuko's banishment, Iroh doesn't view them as highly and has joined the [[BenevolentConspiracy White Lotus]] in hopes of defeating them. It takes Zuko far longer, as he still clings to a belief he can impress his father, but after both he and Azula take a flying leap over the MoralEventHorizon, Zuko realizes he's been on the wrong side of the war and does a HeelFaceTurn, leaving them as enemies for the remainder of the series.
* ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017'': At the beginning, Donald Duck and his uncle, Scrooge [=McDuck=], haven't spoken for over ten years. Donald drops Huey, Dewey, and Louie off at Scrooge's mansion so they stay out of trouble while Donald goes to a job interview, with it being painfully clear this is a last resort. [[spoiler:Later, it is revealed that their conflict stems from Donald's twin sister and the triplets' mother, Della, getting lost in space, and Scrooge not doing enough to search for her in Donald's eyes, as well as not stopping her from taking off on the doomed flight. In the penultimate episode of Season 1, Scrooge's family abandons him as the triplets learn the truth about their mother, but their feud is over by the season finale.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' gives us Zuko [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderZuko Zuko]] and Iroh. [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderGeneralIroh Iroh]]. Both were once close with [[BigBad [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderFireLordOzai Ozai]] and [[TheDragon [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderPrincessAzula Azula]], but following Zuko's banishment, Iroh doesn't view them as highly and has joined the [[BenevolentConspiracy White Lotus]] in hopes of defeating them. It takes Zuko far longer, as he still clings to a belief he can impress his father, but after both he and Azula take a flying leap over the MoralEventHorizon, Zuko realizes he's been on the wrong side of the war and does a HeelFaceTurn, leaving them as enemies for the remainder of the series.
* ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017'': At the beginning, [[Characters/DuckTales2017DonaldDuck Donald Duck Duck]] and his uncle, [[Characters/DuckTales2017ScroogeMcDuck Scrooge [=McDuck=], McDuck]], haven't spoken for over ten years. Donald drops Huey, Dewey, and Louie off at Scrooge's mansion so they stay out of trouble while Donald goes to a job interview, with it being painfully clear this is a last resort. [[spoiler:Later, it is revealed that their conflict stems from Donald's twin sister and the triplets' mother, Della, getting lost in space, and Scrooge not doing enough to search for her in Donald's eyes, as well as not stopping her from taking off on the doomed flight. In the penultimate episode of Season 1, Scrooge's family abandons him as the triplets learn the truth about their mother, but their feud is over by the season finale.]]
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->''"I'm sorry, Papa. This isn't how I wanted this to happen. I had to. You left me no choice, and I'll do what I must to protect our home, even if that means I have to hurt you Papa!"''
-->-- '''Ochō''', ''Anime/StarWarsVisions''
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* In the ''Blog/BetterBonesAU'', Gorseclaw, Spottedpelt and Ripplestar used to be siblings who loved each other, but Gorseclaw betrayed the other two when he felt Ripplestar attacking the Clans at a peaceful gathering to get territory for [=SkyClan=] to return to was going too far, and ended up killing Spottedpelt in the ensuing battle.
** Hollyleaf not only turns against her mother Leafpool as in canon but also her brother Jayfeather, feeling he has defied [=StarClan=] one too many times by having kits with Poppyfrost and believing she needs to prove herself as the hero she thought she was by punishing every wrongdoer.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', according to Grandma Wu, she was close to her daughter, Ming, until Ming gained her giant red panda form leading to them fighting and never fully reconciling.
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* ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'': Amber and Ruby Larose were apparently fairly close as children. However, once Amber hit puberty, she became increasingly remote from Ruby, just as the latter found herself increasingly isolated and something of a BullyMagnet at school; Ruby became increasingly jealous of Amber's attractiveness, social success, and (in Ruby's eyes) [[ParentalFavoritism favored status with their parents]]. Then, after Amber left home, the young Ruby discovered (in [[WildTeenParty highly embarrassing circumstances]]) that Amber had become a porn star -- and Amber persuaded the naturally truthful Ruby to keep this a [[DarkSecret secret]] from their parents. Then, when the strip begins, the sisters find themselves obliged to share an apartment. Their ensuing conflict never rises above the level of continual sniping from the embittered Ruby at the confused Amber (who somehow never works out why Ruby should be quite so hostile), but Ruby is ''consistent'' about it.

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* ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'': Amber and Ruby Larose were apparently fairly close as children. However, once Amber hit puberty, she became increasingly remote from Ruby, just as the latter found herself increasingly isolated and something of a BullyMagnet at school; Ruby became increasingly jealous of Amber's attractiveness, social success, and (in Ruby's eyes) [[ParentalFavoritism favored status with their parents]]. Then, after Amber left home, the young Ruby discovered (in [[WildTeenParty highly embarrassing circumstances]]) that Amber had become a porn star -- and Amber persuaded the naturally truthful Ruby to keep this a [[DarkSecret secret]] from their parents. Then, when the strip begins, the sisters find themselves obliged to share an apartment. Their ensuing conflict never rises above the level of continual sniping from the embittered Ruby at the confused Amber (who somehow never works out why Ruby should be quite so hostile), but Ruby is ''consistent'' about it.

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This trope is based on when family members, for whatever reason, end up fighting one another for whatever. Generally, this is because of one member making a HeelFaceTurn or the [[FaceHeelTurn inverse]], but can often happen due to someone manipulating another like in DeceptiveLegacy and InsidiousRumorMill. This rarely if ever comes up in works where StatusQuoIsGod. If a family member changes sides, then they are fighting their former family until the series ends or someone ends up dead. See BigBrotherBully, CainAndAbel, AbusiveParents, ArchnemesisDad, HatesTheirParent, GruesomeGrandparent, and EvilUncle for examples of characters that tend to end up here.

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This trope is based on when family members, for whatever reason, end up fighting one another for whatever. another. Generally, this is because of one member making a HeelFaceTurn or the [[FaceHeelTurn inverse]], but can often happen due to someone manipulating another like as in DeceptiveLegacy and InsidiousRumorMill. This rarely if ever comes up in works where StatusQuoIsGod. If a family member changes sides, then they are fighting their former family until the series ends or someone ends up dead. See BigBrotherBully, CainAndAbel, AbusiveParents, ArchnemesisDad, HatesTheirParent, GruesomeGrandparent, and EvilUncle for examples of characters that tend to end up here.



Subtrope of WeUsedToBeFriends and DysfunctionalFamily. Contrast ThickerThanWater. Also see BigScrewedUpFamily.

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Subtrope of WeUsedToBeFriends and DysfunctionalFamily. Contrast ThickerThanWater. Also see BigScrewedUpFamily.
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* ''Anime/CrossAnge'': Ange loved both her siblings until her older brother Julio outed her as a Norma, was responsible for her parents being killed, her dispatched to Arzenal and attempting to have her killed first by baiting her back, with her sister and then ordering a massacre of all the Norma; her sister Sylvia also turns on her, hating her for being a Norma and holding her responsible for her mother's death.

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* ''Anime/CrossAnge'': Ange loved both her siblings until her older brother Julio outed her as a Norma, was responsible for her parents being killed, killed and her being dispatched to Arzenal Arzenal, and attempting attempted to have her killed first by baiting her back, back with her sister and then by ordering a massacre of all the Norma; her sister Sylvia also turns on her, hating her for being a Norma and holding her responsible for her mother's death.



* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Kylo Ren, formerly known as Ben Solo, is the son of Han Solo and Princess Leia. However, after [[spoiler: a grave misunderstanding with his uncle Luke and]] being tempted by the Dark Side turns him evil and he ultimately [[spoiler: murders his father.]] However, he later returns to the light side thanks to both [[LoveRedeems Rey]] and a final talk with his father.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Kylo Ren, formerly known as Ben Solo, is the son of Han Solo and Princess Leia. However, after [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a grave misunderstanding with his uncle Luke and]] being tempted by the Dark Side turns him evil and evil, he ultimately [[spoiler: murders [[spoiler:murders his father.]] However, he later returns to the light side thanks to both [[LoveRedeems Rey]] and a final talk with his father.


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* ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'': Amber and Ruby Larose were apparently fairly close as children. However, once Amber hit puberty, she became increasingly remote from Ruby, just as the latter found herself increasingly isolated and something of a BullyMagnet at school; Ruby became increasingly jealous of Amber's attractiveness, social success, and (in Ruby's eyes) [[ParentalFavoritism favored status with their parents]]. Then, after Amber left home, the young Ruby discovered (in [[WildTeenParty highly embarrassing circumstances]]) that Amber had become a porn star -- and Amber persuaded the naturally truthful Ruby to keep this a [[DarkSecret secret]] from their parents. Then, when the strip begins, the sisters find themselves obliged to share an apartment. Their ensuing conflict never rises above the level of continual sniping from the embittered Ruby at the confused Amber (who somehow never works out why Ruby should be quite so hostile), but Ruby is ''consistent'' about it.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' features a [[DownplayedTrope softer variation]] between sisters Elsa and Anna; they aren't malicious towards each other but have been estranged for years. They were best friends as young children but when Elsa inadvertently injured Anna with her ice magic, Anna's memories of Elsa's magic were removed. Anna still remembered their close bond, and so was hurt and confused when Elsa seemingly began shutting her out for no reason. Elsa was terrified of losing control and hurting her sister again, believing avoiding her (and everyone else) was the only way. Even after their parents died, they remained distant despite Anna's attempts to reach out. This culminates in a public fight between them during which Anna gives Elsa a ReasonYouSuckSpeech and Elsa's powers are revealed. Anna realizes this is why Elsa has been cold towards her and sets out to reconcile with her [[spoiler:which helps Elsa to [[ThePowerOfLove gain control of her powers]]]].
-->'''Anna:''' Elsa and I were really close when we were little but then one day she just...shut me out and...I never knew why.
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* ''Anime/CrossAnge'': Ange loved both her siblings until her older brother Julio outed her as a Norma, was responsible for her parents being killed, her sent to Arzenal and attempting to have her killed first by baiting her back, with her sister and then ordering a massacre of all the Norma; her sister Sylvia also turns on her, hating her for being a Norma and holding her responsible for her mother's death.

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* ''Anime/CrossAnge'': Ange loved both her siblings until her older brother Julio outed her as a Norma, was responsible for her parents being killed, her sent dispatched to Arzenal and attempting to have her killed first by baiting her back, with her sister and then ordering a massacre of all the Norma; her sister Sylvia also turns on her, hating her for being a Norma and holding her responsible for her mother's death.



* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', the twins Qrow and Raven joined Beacon Academy together. They trained together in the same team and finally became part of Ozpin's inner circle. Then Raven abandoned her team and by Volume 5 [[spoiler: [[CainAndAbel tries to have Qrow killed]]]].

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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', the twins Qrow and Raven Branwen joined Beacon Academy together. They trained together in the same team and finally became part of Ozpin's inner circle. Then Raven abandoned her team and by Volume 5 [[spoiler: [[CainAndAbel tries to have having Qrow killed]]]].
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** The sisters Abby a.k.a. Numbuh Five and her older sister Cree, formerly Numbuh 11. Back when Cree was still a KND operative, she and Abby were as tight as could possibly be, with Cree even being the prior owner of Abby's CoolHat. However, in present day, Cree is now a teen and a traitor to the KND, as well as being a common minion of [[BigBad Father's]], with the two now being bitter enemies.

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** The sisters Abby a.k.a. Numbuh Five and her older sister Cree, formerly Numbuh 11. Back when Cree was still a KND operative, she and Abby were as tight as could possibly be, with Cree even being the prior owner of Abby's CoolHat.hat. However, in present day, Cree is now a teen and a traitor to the KND, as well as being a common minion of [[BigBad Father's]], with the two now being bitter enemies.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': Vi and Powder were incredibly close as kids growing up in the slums of the {{Under City}}, with Powder idolizing her older sister who treated her more leniently as TheBabyOfTheBunch of their adopted family. [[spoiler: Powder's reckless bomb killing the rest of their family causes Vi to lash out verbally and physically at her. When Vi storms off to cool down, it seems like she's abandoning Powder when Vi's arrested before she can return.]] Post time-skip, their relationship is fraught and messy. Both are torn between a desire to return to their old relationship and how much they've changed as people.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': Vi and Powder were incredibly close as kids growing up in the slums of the {{Under City}}, with Powder idolizing her older sister who treated her more leniently as TheBabyOfTheBunch of their adopted family. [[spoiler: Powder's reckless bomb killing the rest of their family causes Vi to lash out verbally and physically and verbally at her. When Vi storms off to cool down, it seems like she's abandoning Powder when Vi's arrested before she can return.]] Post time-skip, their relationship is fraught and messy. Both are torn between a desire to return to their old relationship and how much they've changed as people.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': Vi and Powder were incredibly close as kids growing up in the slums of the {{Underground}}, with Powder idolizing her older sister who treated her more leniently as the BabyOfTheBunch of their adopted family. [[spoiler: Powder's reckless bomb killing the rest of their family causes Vi to lash out verbally and physically at her. When Vi storms off to cool down, it seems like she's abandoning Powder when Vi's arrested before she can return.]] Post time-skip, their relationship is fraught and messy. Both are torn between a desire to return to their old relationship and how much they've changed as people.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': Vi and Powder were incredibly close as kids growing up in the slums of the {{Underground}}, {{Under City}}, with Powder idolizing her older sister who treated her more leniently as the BabyOfTheBunch TheBabyOfTheBunch of their adopted family. [[spoiler: Powder's reckless bomb killing the rest of their family causes Vi to lash out verbally and physically at her. When Vi storms off to cool down, it seems like she's abandoning Powder when Vi's arrested before she can return.]] Post time-skip, their relationship is fraught and messy. Both are torn between a desire to return to their old relationship and how much they've changed as people.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arcane}}'': Vi and Powder were incredibly close as kids growing up in the slums of the {{Underground}}, with Powder idolizing her older sister who treated her more leniently as the BabyOfTheBunch of their adopted family. [[spoiler: Powder's reckless bomb killing the rest of their family causes Vi to lash out verbally and physically at her. When Vi storms off to cool down, it seems like she's abandoning Powder when Vi's arrested before she can return.]] Post time-skip, their relationship is fraught and messy. Both are torn between a desire to return to their old relationship and how much they've changed as people.
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This trope is based on when family members, for whatever reason, end up fighting one another for whatever. Generally, this is because of one member making a HeelFaceTurn or the [[FaceHeelTurn inverse]]. This rarely if ever comes up in works where StatusQuoIsGod. If a family member changes sides, then they are fighting their former family until the series ends or someone ends up dead. See BigBrotherBully, CainAndAbel, AbusiveParents, ArchnemesisDad, HatesTheirParent, GruesomeGrandparent, and EvilUncle for examples of characters that tend to end up here.

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This trope is based on when family members, for whatever reason, end up fighting one another for whatever. Generally, this is because of one member making a HeelFaceTurn or the [[FaceHeelTurn inverse]].inverse]], but can often happen due to someone manipulating another like in DeceptiveLegacy and InsidiousRumorMill. This rarely if ever comes up in works where StatusQuoIsGod. If a family member changes sides, then they are fighting their former family until the series ends or someone ends up dead. See BigBrotherBully, CainAndAbel, AbusiveParents, ArchnemesisDad, HatesTheirParent, GruesomeGrandparent, and EvilUncle for examples of characters that tend to end up here.
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** ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'': Lillie had a perfectly normal relationship with her family...at least until her father disappeared. After that, her mother [[spoiler:Lusamine]] became obsessed with Ultra Beasts, while her brother [[spoiler:Gladion]] left her behind after noticing his mother increasing obsession. By the events of the game, [[spoiler:Lusamine]] hates both of her sons (with the feeling being mutual in [[spoiler:Gladion]]'s case), while Lillie slightly resents [[spoiler:Gladion]]. [[spoiler:They make up in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltrasunAndUltramoon''. In ''Sun and Moon''...not so much]].

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** ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'': Lillie had a perfectly normal relationship with her family...at least until her father disappeared. After that, her mother [[spoiler:Lusamine]] became obsessed with Ultra Beasts, while her brother [[spoiler:Gladion]] left her behind after noticing his mother increasing obsession. By the events of the game, [[spoiler:Lusamine]] hates both of her sons children (with the feeling being mutual in [[spoiler:Gladion]]'s case), while Lillie slightly resents [[spoiler:Gladion]]. [[spoiler:They make up in ''VideoGame/PokemonUltrasunAndUltramoon''. In ''Sun and Moon''...not so much]].

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