Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Main / FamilyUnfriendlyAesop

Go To


Added DiffLines:

* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' has quite a few, namely: dishonesty is sometimes the best policy, selective truth-telling and manipulation is/can be much more effective than full disclosure, quiet assassinations are a good way to make sure that your enemies don't come back to haunt you rather than risking a CardboardPrison, the ruthless get ahead where the good do not always, [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique torture]] is effective (but only if you can be sure of when someone's lying), and pragmatism is almost always the better course than following moral convictions. Oh, and the world is a harsh place, so you'd better learn to survive from an early age, as it'll save a lot of pain later. Unusually, the series also makes plain that these lessons aren't a ''good'' thing, from a moral standpoint, more a regrettable necessity, and the effect that they have on Harry's moral compass is consistently noted to be somewhat disturbing.

Added DiffLines:

* ''VideoGame/BioShock'' gives a pretty horrible shot at the common aesop of "Study hard and become a doctor/banker/lawyer/surgeon/white collar executive" or "You're paid in what you are worth in society". Rapture was supposed to be a city made up of the best and brightest of humanity... but in the end, someone still has to do dirty jobs that keep society running.


* Indica's song "In Passing" is about a the dead singer telling her sister that her pain will go away and everything passes. Not quite unfriendly until the last few lines where she tells her sister that she also will pass. Extremely true and not something most children are equipped with or taught.

to:

* Indica's song "In Passing" is about a the dead singer telling her sister that her pain will go away and everything passes. Not quite unfriendly until the last few lines where she tells her sister that she also will pass. Extremely true and not something most children are equipped with or taught.



* ''Theatre/AvenueQ'' contains many such unconventional Aesops, though some are tongue-in-cheek. Examples include "TheInternetIsForPorn" and "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist." Another Aesop in the show is "there's nothing wrong with being gay," which on one occasion is humorously expanded to "it's perfectly fine if you're gay, unless you're a Republican." The biggest Aesop in the play can be summed up in Lucy the Slut's line: "Everyone only has one revelation in life: they find out they aren't special."

to:

* ''Theatre/AvenueQ'' contains many such unconventional Aesops, though some are tongue-in-cheek. Examples include "TheInternetIsForPorn" and "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist." Another Aesop in the show is "there's nothing wrong with being gay," which on one occasion is humorously expanded to "it's perfectly fine if you're gay, unless you're a Republican." The biggest Aesop in the play can be summed up in Lucy the Slut's line: "Everyone only has one revelation in life: they find out they aren't special."



* The {{a|nAesop}}esop of "Why Lying is OK!" by WebVideo/MatthewSantoro is that some lies are necessary for society to function, and that [[BrutalHonesty always telling the truth]] is a bad thing.

to:

* The {{a|nAesop}}esop Aesop of "Why Lying is OK!" by WebVideo/MatthewSantoro is that some lies are necessary for society to function, and that [[BrutalHonesty always telling the truth]] is a bad thing.


* ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourragon2'': Hiccup learns the surprisingly dark Aesop that some people simply cannot be reasoned with and can only be brought down by violence. This drives his entire conflict with his father, as Hiccup believes he can talk sense into the BigBad Drago while TheGoodKing Stoick knows better than to even try.

to:

* ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourragon2'': ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'': Hiccup learns the surprisingly dark Aesop that some people simply cannot be reasoned with and can only be brought down by violence. This drives his entire conflict with his father, as Hiccup believes he can talk sense into the BigBad Drago while TheGoodKing Stoick knows better than to even try.


* ''WesternAnimation/BeeMovie:'' Successfully advocating for a cause may actually make things worse, especially if you don't do the proper research about what you're advocating for or against in the first place.
* ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'': Hiccup learns the surprisingly dark Aesop that some people simply cannot be reasoned with and can only be brought down by violence. This drives his entire conflict with his father, as Hiccup believes he can talk sense into the BigBad Drago while TheGoodKing Stoick knows better than to even try.

to:

* ''WesternAnimation/BeeMovie:'' Successfully advocating for a cause may might actually make things worse, especially worse for everybody, ''especially'' if you don't do the proper research about into what you're advocating for or against in the first place.
* ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2'': ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourragon2'': Hiccup learns the surprisingly dark Aesop that some people simply cannot be reasoned with and can only be brought down by violence. This drives his entire conflict with his father, as Hiccup believes he can talk sense into the BigBad Drago while TheGoodKing Stoick knows better than to even try.


** The film also has a more brutally honest message: [[spoiler:No matter how hard you try or how much you love and know about the material, there are just things in life you ''can't'' do, at least not in the traditional sense, much like the message of ''Disney/WreckItRalph''. Accept it, and find where your real talents lie at]]. This is notably balanced out in that it clarifies that you can still work for the thing you love, but with a different task as [[spoiler:Mike never becomes an on-field Scarer, but an assistant and is treated like an equal to Scarers]].

to:

** The film also has a more brutally honest message: [[spoiler:No matter how hard you try or how much you love and know about the material, there are just things in life you ''can't'' do, at least not in the traditional sense, much like the message of ''Disney/WreckItRalph''.''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''. Accept it, and find where your real talents lie at]]. This is notably balanced out in that it clarifies that you can still work for the thing you love, but with a different task as [[spoiler:Mike never becomes an on-field Scarer, but an assistant and is treated like an equal to Scarers]].



* Considering how ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' is a commentary on modern-day prejudices using mammals in place of humans, it was kind of inevitable. The movie demonstrates that intentionally [[InnocentlyInsensitive or not]], ''anybody'' is capable of being a carrier of prejudice (up to and including the main characters ''themselves''), even those who are open-minded and/or suffer the most from it. While it's harsh, and not really a thing anybody wants to admit, it's pretty much how prejudice works in the real world. Fortunately, the blow is softened in a couple of senses; 1), it shows that anybody ''can'' overcome their biases if one acknowledges and actively works on moving past them. 2) Some bigoted characters ''are'' able to become more open-minded and accepting of other groups when given the time and encouragement, such as Judy's parents and [[DaChief Chief Bogo]].

to:

* Considering how ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'' is a commentary on modern-day prejudices using mammals in place of humans, it was kind of inevitable. The movie demonstrates that intentionally [[InnocentlyInsensitive or not]], ''anybody'' is capable of being a carrier of prejudice (up to and including the main characters ''themselves''), even those who are open-minded and/or suffer the most from it. While it's harsh, and not really a thing anybody wants to admit, it's pretty much how prejudice works in the real world. Fortunately, the blow is softened in a couple of senses; 1), it shows that anybody ''can'' overcome their biases if one acknowledges and actively works on moving past them. 2) Some bigoted characters ''are'' able to become more open-minded and accepting of other groups when given the time and encouragement, such as Judy's parents and [[DaChief Chief Bogo]].



* Parodied in Creator/TeamStarKid's ''Theatre/{{Twisted|TheUntoldStoryOfARoyalVizier}}''. The opening number "Dream A Little Harder" pokes fun at the family unfriendly morals offered up by some Disney animated fairy-tales: "If you're [[BeautyEqualsGoodness good and you're attractive]], / No need to be proactive: / Good things will just [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} happen]] [[Disney/SleepingBeauty to]] [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs you]]!", and "If you're sure of your intention, / Some [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} magic]] [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} intervention]] / Will give you the edge that you need!"

to:

* Parodied in Creator/TeamStarKid's ''Theatre/{{Twisted|TheUntoldStoryOfARoyalVizier}}''. The opening number "Dream A Little Harder" pokes fun at the family unfriendly morals offered up by some Disney animated fairy-tales: "If you're [[BeautyEqualsGoodness good and you're attractive]], / No need to be proactive: / Good things will just [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} [[{{WesternAnimation/Cinderella}} happen]] [[Disney/SleepingBeauty [[WesternAnimation/SleepingBeauty to]] [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs [[WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs you]]!", and "If you're sure of your intention, / Some [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} [[{{WesternAnimation/Cinderella}} magic]] [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} [[{{WesternAnimation/Aladdin}} intervention]] / Will give you the edge that you need!"



* WebVideo/HonestTrailers [[DiscussedTrope discusses this trope]] whenever they make a video of a children's movie. Notably with ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', as mentioned above.

to:

* WebVideo/HonestTrailers [[DiscussedTrope discusses this trope]] whenever they make a video of a children's movie. Notably with ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', ''WesternAnimation/{{The Little Mermaid|1989}}'', as mentioned above.


* ''FanFic/ProfessorArc'': The fic is about Jaune becoming a teacher, rather, then a student as he intended, because [[GoneHorriblyRight his forged transcripts are just that good]]. He manages to become a rather respected teacher, and [[spoiler: even ends up headmaster-with Beacon's staff willing to maintain the lie, if only to protect reputation]]. The message being, "fraud and lies are forgivable as long as you do a lot of good with them]].

to:

* ''FanFic/ProfessorArc'': The fic is about Jaune becoming a teacher, rather, then a student as he intended, because [[GoneHorriblyRight his forged transcripts are just that good]]. He manages to become a rather respected teacher, and [[spoiler: even ends up headmaster-with Beacon's staff willing to maintain the lie, if only to protect their reputation]]. The message being, "fraud and lies are forgivable as long as you do a lot of good with them]].them".


* While the original ''Film/DeathWish'' [[{{Deconstruction}} makes it clear that the main character]], [[VigilanteMan Paul Kersey]], [[{{Deconstruction}} has become unbalanced due to his trials and vigilante actions]], [[{{Reconstruction}} the sequels increasingly support vigilantism as a necessary means to clean up the streets]]. Well, ''some'' people think Paul Kersey is unbalanced, apparently on the theory that it's impossible for a sane person to believe that "Sometimes ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer." Others see Kersey as having woken up to reality.

to:

* While the original ''Film/DeathWish'' [[{{Deconstruction}} makes it clear that the main character]], [[VigilanteMan character, Paul Kersey]], [[{{Deconstruction}} Kersey, has become unbalanced due to his trials and vigilante actions]], [[{{Reconstruction}} actions, the sequels increasingly support vigilantism as a necessary means to clean up the streets]].streets. Well, ''some'' people think Paul Kersey is unbalanced, apparently on the theory that it's impossible for a sane person to believe that "Sometimes ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer." Others see Kersey as having woken up to reality.


* While the original ''Film/DeathWish'' makes it clear that the main character, Paul Kersey, has become unbalanced due to his trials and vigilante actions, the sequels increasingly support vigilantism as a necessary means to clean up the streets. Well, ''some'' people think Paul Kersey is unbalanced, apparently on the theory that it's impossible for a sane person to believe that "Sometimes ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer." Others see Kersey as having woken up to reality.

to:

* While the original ''Film/DeathWish'' [[{{Deconstruction}} makes it clear that the main character, character]], [[VigilanteMan Paul Kersey, Kersey]], [[{{Deconstruction}} has become unbalanced due to his trials and vigilante actions, actions]], [[{{Reconstruction}} the sequels increasingly support vigilantism as a necessary means to clean up the streets.streets]]. Well, ''some'' people think Paul Kersey is unbalanced, apparently on the theory that it's impossible for a sane person to believe that "Sometimes ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer." Others see Kersey as having woken up to reality.

Added DiffLines:

* ''Literature/TuckEverlasting'': You'll eventually have to die at some point, young or old. [[WhoWantsToLiveForever Living forever is unambiguously a terrible idea]].


* An exhaustingly-common aesop that pops up in all media is that if you're working a 9-5 desk job with a comfortable middle-class income, your life ''must'' be boring and unfulfilling and you're just itching for the chance to ditch it all and be an artist or performer and/or run away with the ManicPixieDreamGirl. It never occurs to writers that plenty of people enjoy "boring" jobs or find fulfillment in other aspects of their lives. Also, the life of an office drone could very well be a dream for someone living in abject poverty. This one can be chalked up to MostWritersAreWriters.

to:

* An exhaustingly-common aesop lesson that pops up in all media is that if you're working a 9-5 desk job with a comfortable middle-class income, your life ''must'' be boring and unfulfilling and you're just itching for the chance to ditch it all and be an artist or performer and/or run away with the ManicPixieDreamGirl. It never occurs seems to occur to writers that plenty of people enjoy "boring" jobs or jobs, find fulfillment in other aspects of their lives. Also, lives (family, hobbies, side projects, sports, etc.), and/or that the life stable work hours and guaranteed paycheck of an office drone [[MundaneLuxury could very well be a dream for someone living in abject poverty.poverty]]. This one can be chalked up to MostWritersAreWriters.


* Dan Savage of the sex advice column Savage Love has been known to suggest that in some circumstances (such as if one partner has unilaterally put an end to the sexual component of the relationship), cheating is an acceptable option to keep a marriage from ending in divorce.

to:

* Dan Savage of the sex advice column Savage Love ''Savage Love'' has been known to suggest that in some circumstances (such as if one partner has unilaterally put an end to the sexual component of the relationship), cheating is an acceptable option to keep a marriage from ending in divorce.divorce. Admittedly, he does suggest discussing an open marriage first, and if the spouse doesn't want sex ''and'' refuses to allow the other person to seek it elsewhere, that could very well be grounds for divorce. But if divorce isn't a viable option for whatever reason, then do what you gotta do.
* An exhaustingly-common aesop that pops up in all media is that if you're working a 9-5 desk job with a comfortable middle-class income, your life ''must'' be boring and unfulfilling and you're just itching for the chance to ditch it all and be an artist or performer and/or run away with the ManicPixieDreamGirl. It never occurs to writers that plenty of people enjoy "boring" jobs or find fulfillment in other aspects of their lives. Also, the life of an office drone could very well be a dream for someone living in abject poverty. This one can be chalked up to MostWritersAreWriters.

Added DiffLines:

* ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends'' has a ''terrific'' one that comes from the villains. After their LastVillainStand [[spoiler:(Or so you think)]] against The Flutter when they're shot down, Tron apologizes for failing and Tiesel says "Don't worry your pretty little head over it, Tron. We tried our best, but sometimes your best isn't good enough. We lost fair and square. That's life." While it's jarring and not as optimistic as "you can achieve anything", it's also sound advice that not only teaches "you ''will'' fail sometimes, get used to it" but also that there's no shame in trying your best and failing.


[[caption-width-right:250:Maybe the message is that [[ComicallyMissingthePoint pie is tasty.]]]]

to:

[[caption-width-right:250:Maybe the message is that [[ComicallyMissingthePoint [[ComicallyMissingThePoint pie is tasty.]]]]


[[folder:Anime & Manga]]

to:

[[folder:Anime & and Manga]]

Showing 15 edit(s) of 2466

Top

How well does it match the trope?

Example of:

/

Media sources:

/

Report