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** In chapter 147, Hahari adopts Tama, a woman who prefers to live as a cat instead of working as a human, as a pet in her household. It goes well at first but Tama notices that for all the bliss she's experiencing, everyone else is striving towards goals or otherwise living their lives while she's lazing about. When Hahari realizes Tama feels worthless because of this, she leaves Tama as an AbandonedPetInABox... but not without a flyer for a potential part-time job. The job is at one of Hahari's companies and, Hahari being someone who adores anything and everything cute, her companies will hire anyone cute who asks for a job, no questions asked.

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** In chapter 147, Hahari adopts Tama, a woman who prefers to live as a cat instead of working as a human, as a pet in her household. It goes well at first but Tama notices that for all the bliss she's experiencing, everyone else is striving towards goals or otherwise living their lives while she's lazing about. When Hahari realizes Tama feels worthless because of this, she leaves Tama as an AbandonedPetInABox... but not without a flyer for a potential part-time job. The job is at one of Hahari's companies and, Hahari being someone who adores anything and everything cute, her companies will hire anyone cute who asks for a job, no questions asked.



* ''Fanfic/ApotheosisMHA'': {{Deconstruct|ion}}ed; All Might crushes Izuku's dreams in order to prevent a [[{{Muggle}} Quirkless boy]] from pursuing a dangerous career path. This winds up massively backfiring -- after a lifetime of discrimination and disappointment, having his idol tell him to give up simply convinces him that the Symbol of Peace is a massive {{Hypocrite}}, turning Izuku into a VillainProtagonist.

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* ''Fanfic/ApotheosisMHA'': {{Deconstruct|ion}}ed; All Might crushes Izuku's dreams in order to prevent a [[{{Muggle}} [[UnSorcerer Quirkless boy]] from pursuing a dangerous career path. This winds up massively ''massively'' backfiring -- after a lifetime of discrimination and disappointment, having his idol tell him to give up simply convinces him that the Symbol of Peace is a massive {{Hypocrite}}, turning Izuku into a VillainProtagonist.



* In ''Fanfic/BoysUndSenshado'', this is Shiho's justification for [[spoiler:[[IHaveNoSon disowning Miho]]]]. Shiho wants to fight against allowing boys into sensha-do, but knows she wouldn't be able to do so as long as Miho, her younger daughter, has boys on her team, so she [[spoiler:casts Miho out of the family]], partly so that Miho will be able to live and do tankery her own way. Of course, Shiho's elder daughter Maho has a very different opinion on this, since she does as Shiho says and works to become Shiho's heiress so Miho won't have to, and protests that this course of action only served to hurt Miho.

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* In ''Fanfic/BoysUndSenshado'', this is Shiho's justification for [[spoiler:[[IHaveNoSon disowning Miho]]]]. Shiho wants to fight against allowing boys into sensha-do, sensha-do but knows she wouldn't be able to do so as long as Miho, her younger daughter, has boys on her team, so she [[spoiler:casts Miho out of the family]], partly so that Miho will be able to live and do tankery her own way. Of course, Shiho's elder daughter Maho has a very different opinion on this, since she does as Shiho says and works to become Shiho's heiress so Miho won't have to, and protests that this course of action only served to hurt Miho.



* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/39225693/chapters/98712189#workskin The Cat and The Bee]]'', Adrien is the one to select Chloé as the holder of the Bee Miraculous, but is frustrated that her AlphaBitch attitude keep causing Akumas, especially as she keeps emulating her mother. Knowing she won't grow unless she stops idolizing her, he stages a meeting between the two, letting her understand firsthand how Audrey treats anyone, [[AbusiveParent especially her own daughter]], is not something that should be followed.

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* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/39225693/chapters/98712189#workskin The Cat and The Bee]]'', Adrien is the one to select Chloé as the holder of the Bee Miraculous, Miraculous but is frustrated that her AlphaBitch attitude keep keeps causing Akumas, especially as she keeps emulating her mother. Knowing she won't grow unless she stops idolizing her, he stages a meeting between the two, letting her understand firsthand how Audrey treats anyone, [[AbusiveParent especially her own daughter]], is not something that should be followed.



* In ''Fanfic/CodeGeassThePreparedRebellion'', Zero consistently allows Kallen to vent her issues to Tamaki regarding his mistakes. This is because he has to be broken of his bad habits if he wants to survive the rebellion against Britannia.
* In ''Fanfic/ConcerningUs'', Janine breaks Helen's heart by maintaining the lie that her former fiancé is a [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper serial killer]], when the actual culprit is the elemental possessing him. She does it so Helen won't risk getting involved -- the elemental expressed interest in her, and this is the only way to ensure her safety.

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* In ''Fanfic/CodeGeassThePreparedRebellion'', Zero consistently allows Kallen to vent her issues to Tamaki regarding his mistakes. This is because he has to be broken of off his bad habits if he wants to survive the rebellion against Britannia.
* In ''Fanfic/ConcerningUs'', Janine breaks Helen's heart by maintaining the lie that her former fiancé is a [[UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper serial killer]], killer]] when the actual culprit is the elemental possessing him. She does it so Helen won't risk getting involved -- the elemental expressed interest in her, and this is the only way to ensure her safety.



** Jaune sees a nervous applicant by herself, and tries to comfort and give a few tips, while Blake helps the same applicant by intimidating her to go back to the rest of the group while giving her a story to bond over. Jaune speculates that, between the two of them, Blake helped her more.
** Jaune then has to practice this himself while overseeing the actual examination. He spots the same applicant in the midst of a losing battle, but doesn't interfere so that she could have a chance to prove herself. [[spoiler:His desire to see a younger initiate succeed nearly gets her killed before he's forced to rescue and subsequently fail her.]]

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** Jaune sees a nervous applicant by herself, herself and tries to comfort and give a few tips, tips while Blake helps the same applicant by intimidating her to go back to the rest of the group while giving her a story to bond over. Jaune speculates that, between the two of them, Blake helped her more.
** Jaune then has to practice this himself while overseeing the actual examination. He spots the same applicant in the midst of a losing battle, battle but doesn't interfere so that she could have a chance to prove herself. [[spoiler:His desire to see a younger initiate succeed nearly gets her killed before he's forced to rescue and subsequently fail her.]]



** ''Fanfic/HigherLearning'': Right before the FinalBattle Asuka is so depressed and mind-broken that she would rather die than fight for her life. Not knowing what else to do, Shinji threatens to blow his own brains out, hoping to provoke a reaction of her. It works.

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** ''Fanfic/HigherLearning'': Right before the FinalBattle Asuka is so depressed and mind-broken that she would rather die than fight for her life. Not knowing what else to do, Shinji threatens to blow his own brains out, hoping to provoke a reaction of from her. It works.



** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTry'': In chapter six Asuka is angry and depressed and she stubbornly refuses to eat anything [[spoiler:due to her pregnancy]]. Shinji does not know what else to do to reason with her so he resorts to hurting her:

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** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTry'': In chapter six six, Asuka is angry and depressed and she stubbornly refuses to eat anything [[spoiler:due to her pregnancy]]. Shinji does not know what else to do to reason with her so he resorts to hurting her:



** ''Fanfic/ThousandShinji'': In the noncanonical side-story Shinji meets his counterpart of the original universe. To force his counterpart to know the price of failure and get his act together, Shinji [[spoiler:makes his younger self believing that he is going to behead Asuka.]] When the younger Shinji screams [[BigNo "NO!"]] right before the axe-blow intentionally misses, Shinji suggests him earnestly stopping his self-pity party, growing a spine and fighting to defend Asuka and other people he cares about.

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** ''Fanfic/ThousandShinji'': In the noncanonical side-story side-story, Shinji meets his counterpart of the original universe. To force his counterpart to know the price of failure and get his act together, Shinji [[spoiler:makes his younger self believing that he is going to behead Asuka.]] When the younger Shinji screams [[BigNo "NO!"]] right before the axe-blow intentionally misses, Shinji suggests him earnestly stopping his self-pity party, growing a spine spine, and fighting to defend Asuka and other people he cares about.



* In ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', this is given as another reason by Joseph for faking Avdol's death and not telling Polnareff. Earlier, Polnareff reckless pursuit of J. Geil on his own nearly got himself and the others killed. The shock of Avdol's "death" will make Polnareff realize he can and ''should'' rely on his teammates rather than on his pride alone. Joseph even remarks he wished he went through something like that in past, instead of only learning this lesson [[spoiler:after Caesar's death]].

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* In ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', this is given as another reason by Joseph for faking Avdol's death and not telling Polnareff. Earlier, Polnareff reckless pursuit of J. Geil on his own nearly got himself and the others killed. The shock of Avdol's "death" will make Polnareff realize he can and ''should'' rely on his teammates rather than on his pride alone. Joseph even remarks he wished he went through something like that in the past, instead of only learning this lesson [[spoiler:after Caesar's death]].



* Gabriel ''thinks'' he's doing this in ''Fanfic/SomeoneToWatchOverMe'', when he deliberately torments Adrien in order to advance his plans to revive Adrien's mother. Technically he's even right, although not in the way he intended.

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* Gabriel ''thinks'' he's doing this in ''Fanfic/SomeoneToWatchOverMe'', ''Fanfic/SomeoneToWatchOverMe'' when he deliberately torments Adrien in order to advance his plans to revive Adrien's mother. Technically he's even right, although not in the way he intended.



* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'', Elsa distances herself from her sister Anna because, when they were children, Elsa almost killed Anna with her magical powers. Elsa purposefully neglects Anna because she's scared of hurting her again. But since Anna can't remember the incident (or Elsa's powers), she's doesn't understand Elsa's actions, and concludes that Elsa must just be mean-spirited. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, Elsa's efforts don't succeed, and in the end, she realizes that love is the key to controlling her powers, rather than keeping people at a distance]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'', Elsa distances herself from her sister Anna because, when they were children, Elsa almost killed Anna with her magical powers. Elsa purposefully neglects Anna because she's scared of hurting her again. But since Anna can't remember the incident (or Elsa's powers), she's she doesn't understand Elsa's actions, actions and concludes that Elsa must just be mean-spirited. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, Elsa's efforts don't succeed, and in the end, she realizes that love is the key to controlling her powers, rather than keeping people at a distance]].



* ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'': Subverted with King Candy, played straight with Ralph. When King Candy tells Ralph that Vanellope becoming a racer could lead to the game world being destroyed and Vanellope dying along with it, Ralph tries to convince her to drop out of competition. When she won't listen, Ralph feels forced to destroy her car and ends up devastating her. Only later does Ralph realize that King Candy [[spoiler:is lying through his teeth. He doesn't care for Vanellope's safety one bit, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk he only prevents her from racing to prevent the others from finding out that she's the real ruler, not him]]]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'': Subverted with King Candy, played straight with Ralph. When King Candy tells Ralph that Vanellope becoming a racer could lead to the game world being destroyed and Vanellope dying along with it, Ralph tries to convince her to drop out of the competition. When she won't listen, Ralph feels forced to destroy her car and ends up devastating her. Only later does Ralph realize that King Candy [[spoiler:is lying through his teeth. He doesn't care for Vanellope's safety one bit, bit; [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk he only prevents her from racing to prevent the others from finding out that she's the real ruler, not him]]]].



* ''Literature/EndersGame'': Ender's entire journey through battle school, where he endures pure physical, emotional, social torture ends up making him an epic commander and thus saves all of humanity. For specific examples, he is intentionally set up to be ambushed by a bully and his gang in the showers...so he'll realize that no one will help him and he needs to come up with a solution, which ends with him killing the bully. He is manipulated with coerced letters from his sister Valentine, so he won't simply write off all of humanity being as bad as his brother Peter and will therefore kill the Buggers as needed. He is placed in games that have unfair rules set up against him (such as low preparation time, more enemies on the other side, etc.) so Ender will start thinking less in terms of how to follow the rules and more in terms of how to ''win'', which ends up helping him when he must participate in battles against the Buggers where they have every advantage against him. There is a virtual reality game set up for him called the Giant's Drink that is intentionally designed to be impossible to win, so Ender will start looking for third options to screw the game over, [[spoiler:a sentiment which culminates in him bombing the Buggers out of existence and taking his own, actually real, soldiers out with them]].

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* ''Literature/EndersGame'': Ender's entire journey through battle school, where he endures pure physical, emotional, and social torture ends up making him an epic commander and thus saves all of humanity. For specific examples, he is intentionally set up to be ambushed by a bully and his gang in the showers...so he'll realize that no one will help him and he needs to come up with a solution, which ends with him killing the bully. He is manipulated with coerced letters from his sister Valentine, so he won't simply write off all of humanity being as bad as his brother Peter and will therefore kill the Buggers as needed. He is placed in games that have unfair rules set up against him (such as low preparation time, more enemies on the other side, etc.) so Ender will start thinking less in terms of how to follow the rules and more in terms of how to ''win'', which ends up helping him when he must participate in battles against the Buggers where they have every advantage against him. There is a virtual reality game set up for him called the Giant's Drink that is intentionally designed to be impossible to win, so Ender will start looking for third options to screw the game over, [[spoiler:a sentiment which culminates in him bombing the Buggers out of existence and taking his own, actually real, soldiers out with them]].



** [=McGonagall=] has a moment of this in the very first ''Harry Potter'' book. She catches Harry, Neville, Hermione, and Draco out of bed after hours and takes away ''one hundred and fifty points'', and from ''her own house'' at that! (She also takes twenty points from Draco, though, since he too had to be out of bed after-hours in order to even know what the other three were doing; there was no other way he could then have informed the professor about their rule-breaking.) Her reaction is justified when you consider: one, during this particular school year there was a lethal monster in the school in addition to Voldemort being after the stone, and ultimately [=McGonagall=] doesn't want the students to consider wandering around after-hours to be acceptable. Two, part of the reasons the Slytherins all come off as such jerks is because Snape plays favorites and never takes any points away from a Slytherin student, no matter how awful. [=McGonagall=]'s willingness to cost her own house the House Cup, by contrast, teaches the Gryffindor students that ethical behavior is determined by the choices you make, and not the groups to which you belong. Three, the students were willing to break rules was ''in part'' because Snape only ever punished Harry for breaking rules out of a personal vendetta, so the students understandably came to the conclusion that the rules couldn't be trusted. The fact that [=McGonagall=] had a legitimate reason to punish them ''and'' the fact that she punished Draco along with them (something Snape would never have done) drove home for the students the fact that just because one teacher is a jerk, doesn't mean they ''all'' are.
* ''[[https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/45331/horizon-of-war-the-realistic-isekai-chronicles/ Horizon of War]]'': Lansius persuades the three Nicopolan envoys that continuing to follow their power-hungry leader Sergio is a lost cause -- and then he has them all flogged into unconsciousness before sending them back. As he quietly explains to Servius, it's the only way to prevent Sergio from becoming suspicious that they're colluding with him; since Sergio sent them with a highly insulting "gift", it's clear that he doesn't actually want them back alive, and would pounce on any excuse to get rid of them.

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** [=McGonagall=] has a moment of this in the very first ''Harry Potter'' book. She catches Harry, Neville, Hermione, and Draco out of bed after hours and takes away ''one hundred and fifty points'', and from ''her own house'' at that! (She also takes twenty points from Draco, though, since he too had to be out of bed after-hours in order to even know what the other three were doing; there was no other way he could then have informed the professor about their rule-breaking.) Her reaction is justified when you consider: one, during this particular school year there was a lethal monster in the school in addition to Voldemort being after the stone, and ultimately [=McGonagall=] doesn't want the students to consider wandering around after-hours to be acceptable. Two, part of the reasons reason the Slytherins all come off as such jerks is because that Snape plays favorites and never takes any points away from a Slytherin student, no matter how awful. [=McGonagall=]'s willingness to cost her own house the House Cup, by contrast, teaches the Gryffindor students that ethical behavior is determined by the choices you make, and not the groups to which you belong. Three, the students were willing to break rules was ''in part'' because Snape only ever punished Harry for breaking rules out of a personal vendetta, so the students understandably came to the conclusion that the rules couldn't be trusted. The fact that [=McGonagall=] had a legitimate reason to punish them ''and'' the fact that she punished Draco along with them (something Snape would never have done) drove home for the students the fact that just because one teacher is a jerk, doesn't mean they ''all'' are.
* ''[[https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/45331/horizon-of-war-the-realistic-isekai-chronicles/ Horizon of War]]'': Lansius persuades the three Nicopolan envoys that continuing continue to follow their power-hungry leader Sergio is a lost cause -- and then he has them all flogged into unconsciousness before sending them back. As he quietly explains to Servius, it's the only way to prevent Sergio from becoming suspicious that they're colluding with him; since Sergio sent them with a highly insulting "gift", it's clear that he doesn't actually want them back alive, and would pounce on any excuse to get rid of them.



* The ''Literature/InDeath'' series: Being a murder cop has this trope as part of Eve's job description. She has to interrogate witnesses, and pull no punches, even if said witnesses are her best friend and her aide's (later partner) brother. She has to tell families that one of their members is dead. There was one book where she had to tell this one person of interest to her face that [[spoiler: the man she had sex with was her birth father]], because she had to find out if she knew and if she murdered him. Another book had a person of interest saying about how terrible it must be for her to see only the worst in people. This is why being a cop can suck.

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* The ''Literature/InDeath'' series: Being a murder cop has this trope as part of Eve's job description. She has to interrogate witnesses, and pull no punches, even if said witnesses are her best friend and her aide's (later partner) brother. She has to tell families that one of their members is dead. There was one book where she had to tell this one person of interest to her face that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the man she had sex with was her birth father]], father]] because she had to find out if she knew and if she murdered him. Another book had a person of interest saying about how terrible it must be for her to see only the worst in people. This is why being a cop can suck.



* "Kingsmeat" by Creator/OrsonScottCard, collected in ''Literature/MapsInAMirror'': An alien species conquers planets with human populations and devours all inhabitants. On one such planet one of the intended victims offers to cut off parts of selected humans and cook them for the aliens' meals, leaving him dishonored and loathed among his fellow humans. However, this offer prevents the aliens from actually killing the entire population, so, in effect, the dishonored man saved his planet.

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* "Kingsmeat" by Creator/OrsonScottCard, collected in ''Literature/MapsInAMirror'': An alien species conquers planets with human populations and devours all inhabitants. On one such planet planet, one of the intended victims offers to cut off parts of selected humans and cook them for the aliens' meals, leaving him dishonored and loathed among his fellow humans. However, this offer prevents the aliens from actually killing the entire population, so, in effect, the dishonored man saved his planet.



* In ''Literature/TheMentalState'', one of the tactics used by the protagonist to survive in prison is to try to reform as many inmates as possible. This means taking some extreme actions sometimes. However, the best example is probably the way he treats Officer Reed, an undercover cop trying to expose the prison drug addicts. After uncovering the truth about him, Zack tricks him into taking drugs himself and then blackmailing him so that he keeps taking them and enduring the humiliation the rest of the gang inflicts in him, essentially turning him into a junkie himself. He then reveals that this was simply his way of showing the officer how hard life is for addicts behind bars. Officer Reed then helps him to stage a coup and cut off the gang's drug supply, causing all the gang's members, including Officer Reed himself, to co cold turkey and curing them all. The officer realizes that Zack's method of reducing the use of drugs in prison was more successful than his own and starts to appreciate him more.

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* In ''Literature/TheMentalState'', one of the tactics used by the protagonist to survive in prison is to try to reform as many inmates as possible. This means taking some extreme actions sometimes. However, the best example is probably the way he treats Officer Reed, an undercover cop trying to expose the prison drug addicts. After uncovering the truth about him, Zack tricks him into taking drugs himself and then blackmailing him so that he keeps taking them and enduring the humiliation the rest of the gang inflicts in on him, essentially turning him into a junkie himself. He then reveals that this was simply his way of showing the officer how hard life is for addicts behind bars. Officer Reed then helps him to stage a coup and cut off the gang's drug supply, causing all the gang's members, including Officer Reed himself, to co go cold turkey and curing them all. The officer realizes that Zack's method of reducing the use of drugs in prison was more successful than his own and starts to appreciate him more.



* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': When Victoria Hand asks May if Skye should be part of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s search for Coulson, May says no, and she's kicked off the Bus. When Ward give May a WhatTheHellHero in private, she reveals her true motive: Skye was at her best without a bunch of uptight agents looking over her shoulder.

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* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': When Victoria Hand asks May if Skye should be part of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s search for Coulson, May says no, and she's kicked off the Bus. When Ward give gives May a WhatTheHellHero in private, she reveals her true motive: Skye was at her best without a bunch of uptight agents looking over her shoulder.



** In "[[Recap/AngelS02E13HappyAnniversary Happy Anniversary]]", Angel reveals to Lorne (then known as "The Host") that he fired his team and cut off ties with them because he wanted to keep them away from the dark territory he was treading and didn't want them to compromise their own morality like he was compromising his, along with [[GuiltRiddenAccomplice other]] [[DespairEventHorizon worse]] [[FateWorseThanDeath consequences.]] So he had to make them think he didn't care for them, and was willing to let them [[WhatTheHellHero hate him and consider it a betrayal (and they did, especially Cordelia)]] since he didn't think he'd survive to apologize. Unfortunately, [[AllForNothing this was all subverted]] when he discovered the truth about [[BigBad Wolfram & Hart]] and its [[HellOnEarth home office]] in "Reprise".

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** In "[[Recap/AngelS02E13HappyAnniversary Happy Anniversary]]", Angel reveals to Lorne (then known as "The Host") that he fired his team and cut off ties with them because he wanted to keep them away from the dark territory he was treading and didn't want them to compromise their own morality like he was compromising his, along with [[GuiltRiddenAccomplice other]] [[DespairEventHorizon worse]] [[FateWorseThanDeath consequences.]] So he had to make them think he didn't care for them, them and was willing to let them [[WhatTheHellHero hate him and consider it a betrayal (and they did, especially Cordelia)]] since he didn't think he'd survive to apologize. Unfortunately, [[AllForNothing this was all subverted]] when he discovered the truth about [[BigBad Wolfram & Hart]] and its [[HellOnEarth home office]] in "Reprise".



** Michael state that you have to be cruel to be kind when in hostage negotiations, because if you show too much sympathy for the hostage, you're going to give the hostage-taker leverage. If you show you're willing to let them kill the hostage if they're too badly hurt, you've gained an advantage, as hostage taking is a business, where there is only one buyer for each product.

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** Michael state states that you have to be cruel to be kind when in hostage negotiations, negotiations because if you show too much sympathy for the hostage, you're going to give the hostage-taker leverage. If you show you're willing to let them kill the hostage if they're too badly hurt, you've gained an advantage, as hostage taking hostage-taking is a business, where there is only one buyer for each product.



** An episode features a crazed albeit WellIntentionedExtremist. He kills the parents who he perceives as abusive and unfit to raise children. He kidnaps the children as well believing that he has done both parties a huge favor. His final Targets are a promiscuous mother and her daughter. He ties the mother up and asks the daughter for permission to kill her. At this point the mother starts insulting her child relentlessly and making it seem as though her current boyfriend matters far more but it was all a ploy to get the Unsub to waste his bullets on her and not her daughter. Thankfully the team arrives just in time to save the pair.
** Another episode has Agent Hotchner feign empathy for the unsub. To really sell it, He kicks Agent Reid several times. After the situation is resolved, Hotchner is repentant and asks Reid if he had hurt him too badly. Reid informs him that he kicks like a nine-year old girl.
* ''Series/DeadMansGun'': In "Snake Finger" the eponymous safecracker is goaded into a fight by a man whose blocked up the barrel of his gun. This maims Snake Finger's hand, but it wasn't done out of cruelty, but in order to ensure that he'd be unable to crack anymore safes and thus would be more inclined to stay with the woman who loves him, something Snake Finger seems to appreciate at the end.

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** An episode features a crazed albeit WellIntentionedExtremist. He kills the parents who he perceives as abusive and unfit to raise children. He kidnaps the children as well believing that he has done both parties a huge favor. His final Targets are a promiscuous mother and her daughter. He ties the mother up and asks the daughter for permission to kill her. At this point point, the mother starts insulting her child relentlessly and making it seem as though her current boyfriend matters far more but it was all a ploy to get the Unsub to waste his bullets on her and not her daughter. Thankfully the team arrives just in time to save the pair.
** Another episode has Agent Hotchner feign empathy for the unsub. To really sell it, He kicks Agent Reid several times. After the situation is resolved, Hotchner is repentant and asks Reid if he had hurt him too badly. Reid informs him that he kicks like a nine-year old nine-year-old girl.
* ''Series/DeadMansGun'': In "Snake Finger" the eponymous safecracker is goaded into a fight by a man whose who blocked up the barrel of his gun. This maims Snake Finger's hand, but it wasn't done out of cruelty, but in order to ensure that he'd be unable to crack anymore any more safes and thus would be more inclined to stay with the woman who loves him, something Snake Finger seems to appreciate at the end.



** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric "The Curse of Fenric"]], the Seventh Doctor (portrayed by Creator/SylvesterMcCoy as something of a ManipulativeBastard) intentionally broke Ace's faith in him as part of strategy to destroy a coven of psychic vampire-like beings.

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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E3TheCurseOfFenric "The Curse of Fenric"]], the Seventh Doctor (portrayed by Creator/SylvesterMcCoy as something of a ManipulativeBastard) intentionally broke Ace's faith in him as part of the strategy to destroy a coven of psychic vampire-like beings.



* Neal says these exact words in ''Series/WhiteCollar'' before intentionally turning off a woman he was flirting with to get a lead on a case. He is too much of a gentleman to pursue her interest and can't tell her what his true intentions are, so he settles with cheerfully informing her that she is the first women he's had a drink with since getting out of prison. She leaves.

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* Neal says these exact words in ''Series/WhiteCollar'' before intentionally turning off a woman he was flirting with to get a lead on a case. He is too much of a gentleman to pursue her interest and can't tell her what his true intentions are, so he settles with cheerfully informing her that she is the first women woman he's had a drink with since getting out of prison. She leaves.



I'm a crumpled up piece of paper lying here\\

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* Many interpretations of [[Literature/TheFourGospels Judas Iscarot selling Jesus out to the Pharisees]] imply that Judas was hoping Jesus would use the incident to incite a Jewish revolt and overthrow the Roman occupation of Judea (Judas and lots of other lower-class citizens saw the Pharisees as LesCollaborateurs). Naturally, [[BadassPacifist Jesus refused]].

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* Many interpretations of [[Literature/TheFourGospels Judas Iscarot Iscariot selling Jesus out to the Pharisees]] imply that Judas was hoping Jesus would use the incident to incite a Jewish revolt and overthrow the Roman occupation of Judea (Judas and lots of other lower-class citizens saw the Pharisees as LesCollaborateurs). Naturally, [[BadassPacifist Jesus refused]].



* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', a game known for its vast potentials for unwarranted cruelty, sometimes this has a reason. One incident arose where a dwarf was lying on the ground, suffering from internal bleeding, but none of the doctors would help him. The player, for fear of losing this dwarf, had to place a spike trap underneath him and activate it manually to cause external bleeding that the doctors would actually notice [[spoiler:which might seem like a roundabout solution to a simple problem, but what else can you do besides hope the noticeable injuries aren't life threatening?]]

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* In ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'', a game known for its vast potentials for unwarranted cruelty, sometimes this has a reason. One incident arose where a dwarf was lying on the ground, suffering from internal bleeding, but none of the doctors would help him. The player, for fear of losing this dwarf, had to place a spike trap underneath him and activate it manually to cause external bleeding that the doctors would actually notice [[spoiler:which might seem like a roundabout solution to a simple problem, but what else can you do besides hope the noticeable injuries aren't life threatening?]]life-threatening?]]



** Admiral Shala'Raan declines to tell Tali precisely what the consequences were of her supposed "treason" against the Quarian Migrant Fleet until she and Shepard arrive among the fleet, resulting in Tali getting publicly blindsided with accusations that she fed information to the Geth which allowed them to capture her father. As harsh as this is, Raan later tells Tali that it was necessary, because Tali's honest shock helped prove that she had no intention of compromising the Migrant Fleet, whereas if she'd known the details in advance, she would have tried to compose herself and it might have made her look suspicious.
** During Garrus' recruitment mission, as you leave the mercenary recruitment office, Shepard meets Jonn Whitson, a young man that wants to join in the hunt for "Archangel". The Paragon reaction involves Shepard breaking the kid's gun and telling him to get a refund. The act will make Shepard look like an asshole, as after the mission ends, you receive a message from Whitson, telling you that after Shepard broke his gun he went to a bar and got plastered in anger. But when the news broke of the massacre, he realized how bad it would have been for him, and he thanks you for stopping him. Indeed, allowing the kid to join the hunt for "Archangel" actually get him killed.

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** Admiral Shala'Raan declines to tell Tali precisely what the consequences were of her supposed "treason" against the Quarian Migrant Fleet until she and Shepard arrive among the fleet, resulting in Tali getting publicly blindsided with accusations that she fed information to the Geth which allowed them to capture her father. As harsh as this is, Raan later tells Tali that it was necessary, necessary because Tali's honest shock helped prove that she had no intention of compromising the Migrant Fleet, whereas if she'd known the details in advance, she would have tried to compose herself and it might have made her look suspicious.
** During Garrus' recruitment mission, as you leave the mercenary recruitment office, Shepard meets Jonn Whitson, a young man that who wants to join in the hunt for "Archangel". The Paragon reaction involves Shepard breaking the kid's gun and telling him to get a refund. The act will make Shepard look like an asshole, as after the mission ends, you receive a message from Whitson, telling you that after Shepard broke his gun he went to a bar and got plastered in anger. But when the news broke of the massacre, he realized how bad it would have been for him, and he thanks you for stopping him. Indeed, allowing the kid to join the hunt for "Archangel" actually get gets him killed.



* Raz the [[PsychicPowers psychic]] hero of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is terrified of his father, Augustus. As circus performers, Augustus trains Raz so harshly that the boy is convinced his father hates him for being psychic. The truth is that [[spoiler:all Raz's dad wanted was to instill discipline in his son so that his powers would not go to waste and so Raz would be ready for the dangers his talents would draw to him]].
* ''VideoGame/ReKuroi'': One of the kids working for the bandits helps the party escape, in exchange for them helping him take revenge on the bandits for killing his parents. Asha double crosses him and tells him not to try to take revenge, since the bandits probably know about his plan and because revenge won't improve his life.

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* Raz the [[PsychicPowers psychic]] hero of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is terrified of his father, father Augustus. As circus performers, Augustus trains Raz so harshly that the boy is convinced his father hates him for being psychic. The truth is that [[spoiler:all Raz's dad wanted was to instill discipline in his son so that his powers would not go to waste and so Raz would be ready for the dangers his talents would draw to him]].
* ''VideoGame/ReKuroi'': One of the kids working for the bandits helps the party escape, in exchange for them helping him take revenge on the bandits for killing his parents. Asha double crosses double-crosses him and tells him not to try to take revenge, since the bandits probably know about his plan and because revenge won't improve his life.



* In ''VideoGame/SonicRushAdventure'', Blaze coldly tells Marine that she's an annoying nuisance (which is not entirely unjustified) and that she'd be a burden to them because it would be to dangerous for her to come with them to [[BigBad Whisker's]] hideout and because Sonic and Tails don't have the guts to do it. The cutscene is even explicitly called "Cruel to Be Kind."
* In ''VideoGame/TearsToTiara2'', Hamil attempts to get Tart to leave town. If she doesn't, she'll either be captured and burnt at the stake for calling herself a Goddess, or get caught up in a rebellion. It kind of backfires in that his harsh words lead to her capture.

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* In ''VideoGame/SonicRushAdventure'', Blaze coldly tells Marine that she's an annoying nuisance (which is not entirely unjustified) and that she'd be a burden to them because it would be to too dangerous for her to come with them to [[BigBad Whisker's]] hideout and because Sonic and Tails don't have the guts to do it. The cutscene is even explicitly called "Cruel to Be Kind."
* In ''VideoGame/TearsToTiara2'', Hamil attempts to get Tart to leave town. If she doesn't, she'll either be captured and burnt at the stake for calling herself a Goddess, Goddess or get caught up in a rebellion. It kind of backfires in that his harsh words lead to her capture.



* In ''VisualNovel/LittleBusters'', this turns out to underpin a great proportion of a certain main character's actions through the game. [[spoiler:That is, Kyousuke was deliberately controlling the events of the dream world so as to push Riki and Rin into becoming stronger and realizing what they were capable of, so they wouldn't give up once they're left on their own.]] Another character also claims this as their motivation, but that situation turns out to be a lot more complicated: [[spoiler:Kanata ''did'' hurt Haruka because her family told her they'd hurt her even worse otherwise, but she also did it at least partially because they also told her Kanata would take Haruka's place as the outcast if she didn't. That she'd been conditioned into acting that way since birth probably also played a part.]]

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* In ''VisualNovel/LittleBusters'', this turns out to underpin a great proportion of a certain main character's actions through throughout the game. [[spoiler:That is, Kyousuke was deliberately controlling the events of the dream world so as to push Riki and Rin into becoming stronger and realizing what they were capable of, so they wouldn't give up once they're left on their own.]] Another character also claims this as their motivation, but that situation turns out to be a lot more complicated: [[spoiler:Kanata ''did'' hurt Haruka because her family told her they'd hurt her even worse otherwise, but she also did it at least partially because they also told her Kanata would take Haruka's place as the outcast if she didn't. That she'd been conditioned into acting that way since birth probably also played a part.]]



* In ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', the circumstances of Hollyhock's birth are revealed to have been, in part, because of this from Beatrice Horseman. [[spoiler:Hollyhock's mother, Henrietta, had her medical school bills paid for by Beatrice in exchange for giving up Hollyhock for adoption. Beatrice even refused to let Henrietta hold Hollyhock after she was born to avoid them becoming attached at all so Henrietta wouldn't back out of the deal at the last minute.]] All of this was done to ensure that Henrietta would have a better life than Beatrice, as Beatrice went through the same thing Henrietta did, but made the wrong choice, and doesn't want it to happen to Henrietta.
* ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'': In "[[Recap/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteersS1E24And25TwoFutures Two Futures]]", Wheeler "quits" the Planeteers by changing the past so that he'd never have joined the team. In order to get him to realize what it means for the world, Gaia makes MAL send him thirty-five years forward in time, and stops responding from the moment he goes to talk to Gi. She reappears only after the timeline is restored and Captain Planet saves the day. Now, in theory, she could have simply brought Wheeler to Hope Island, so that he could see the BadFuture on the Planet Vision; however, he might not have understood the lesson without the first-hand experience.
* In ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'' Valentine's Day episode, Double D and May Kanker end up becoming SickeninglySweethearts due to a pair of cupids (played by Jimmy and Sarah) causing havoc. They spend the entire episode calling each other affectionate pet names, having HeldGaze sessions and generally seem really happy. When Ed and Eddy and Lee and Marie find out they're a couple, they decide to separate them, despite protests from the couple themselves. Even after Rolf "cures" everyone from the cupids, it's implied there are still some lingering feelings between them.
* In ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' after Peter's failed indoor water-slide ended with him injuring himself. Sadly, Brian overestimated Peter's stupidity during that event.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', the circumstances of Hollyhock's birth are revealed to have been, in part, because of this from Beatrice Horseman. [[spoiler:Hollyhock's mother, Henrietta, mother Henrietta had her medical school bills paid for by Beatrice in exchange for giving up Hollyhock for adoption. Beatrice even refused to let Henrietta hold Hollyhock after she was born to avoid them becoming attached at all so Henrietta wouldn't back out of the deal at the last minute.]] All of this was done to ensure that Henrietta would have a better life than Beatrice, as Beatrice went through the same thing Henrietta did, but made the wrong choice, and doesn't want it to happen to Henrietta.
* ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'': In "[[Recap/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteersS1E24And25TwoFutures Two Futures]]", Wheeler "quits" the Planeteers by changing the past so that he'd never have joined the team. In order to get him to realize what it means for the world, Gaia makes MAL send him thirty-five years forward in time, time and stops responding from the moment he goes to talk to Gi. She reappears only after the timeline is restored and Captain Planet saves the day. Now, in theory, she could have simply brought Wheeler to Hope Island, so that he could see the BadFuture on the Planet Vision; however, he might not have understood the lesson without the first-hand experience.
* In ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'' Valentine's Day episode, Double D and May Kanker end up becoming SickeninglySweethearts due to a pair of cupids (played by Jimmy and Sarah) causing havoc. They spend the entire episode calling each other affectionate pet names, having HeldGaze sessions sessions, and generally seem really happy. When Ed and Eddy and Lee and Marie find out they're a couple, they decide to separate them, despite protests from the couple themselves. Even after Rolf "cures" everyone from the cupids, it's implied there are still some lingering feelings between them.
* In ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', after Peter's failed indoor water-slide water slide ended with him injuring himself. Sadly, Brian overestimated Peter's stupidity during that event.



** In "The Cutie Pox", Apple Bloom gets a disease that causes multiple cutie marks to appear and forces her to act out all those talents. To get Apple Bloom back to normal, Zecora makes Apple Bloom tell the truth about having committed a theft in front of everyone in Ponyville... which is kind, ultimately, because in-context it's literally the only way to restore Apple Bloom back to normal.

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** In "The Cutie Pox", Apple Bloom gets a disease that causes multiple cutie marks to appear and forces her to act out all those talents. To get Apple Bloom back to normal, Zecora makes Apple Bloom tell the truth about having committed a theft in front of everyone in Ponyville... which is kind, ultimately, because in-context in context, it's literally the only way to restore Apple Bloom back to normal.



** [[AnAesop The Aesop]] of episode "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies". After an accident where a group of migrating Breezies are separated from the rest of the group, Fluttershy takes them in. When she tries to get them to leave, they show no interest in leaving. Finally, after saving one of them from a swarm of angry bees with more aggressive words, Fluttershy finally decides to kick the remaining Breezies out of her home to ensure that they get back to their own home. Fluttershy learns that being kind doesn't always mean doing whatever someone else wants; it means pushing them to be the best they can be. This trope is also inverted in the same episode with Seabreeze (the Breezie she saves) learning that while good leaders are tough on their followers when needed, being too tough only causes dysfunction and hurt feelings, leading him to enlist Fluttershy in helping him learn to be more gentle with his fellow Breezies. Ultimately the lesson is "There's a time for tough love and a time for tenderness. True kindness is knowing which is which."

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** [[AnAesop The Aesop]] of the episode "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies". After an accident where a group of migrating Breezies are separated from the rest of the group, Fluttershy takes them in. When she tries to get them to leave, they show no interest in leaving. Finally, after saving one of them from a swarm of angry bees with more aggressive words, Fluttershy finally decides to kick the remaining Breezies out of her home to ensure that they get back to their own home. Fluttershy learns that being kind doesn't always mean doing whatever someone else wants; it means pushing them to be the best they can be. This trope is also inverted in the same episode with Seabreeze (the Breezie she saves) learning that while good leaders are tough on their followers when needed, being too tough only causes dysfunction and hurt feelings, leading him to enlist Fluttershy in helping him learn to be more gentle with his fellow Breezies. Ultimately the lesson is "There's a time for tough love and a time for tenderness. True kindness is knowing which is which."



* Most modern medical procedures fall under this category, including (but not limited to) amputations, invasive surgeries, and organ removal. They all would sound quite barbaric to someone unfamiliar with the procedure, but are being done to save lives.

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* Most modern medical procedures fall under this category, including (but not limited to) amputations, invasive surgeries, and organ removal. They all would sound quite barbaric to someone unfamiliar with the procedure, procedure but are being done to save lives.



* Unlike CPRCleanPrettyReliable, actual CPR is an emergency procedure ''for a reason''. Part of the reason we have CPRCleanPrettyReliable is because in live action media, demonstrating correct CPR techniques for the sake of showing what is correct and avoiding aforementioned trope could actually seriously harm the actor it was being done on. Among other things, the pressure of well-done chest compressions are enough to not only restart the heartbeat, but it can break the person's sternum, the rescue breathing can be enough to cause vomiting, and the combination usually causes a lot of pain for the resuscitated person later. The person doing CPR is most likely well aware of the potential consequences, but performs the procedure anyway because it can save that person's life, but only if it is done in combination with calling for qualified medical aid. CPR alone only guarantees a 2% chance of survival.

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* Unlike CPRCleanPrettyReliable, actual CPR is an emergency procedure ''for a reason''. Part of the reason we have CPRCleanPrettyReliable is because in live action live-action media, demonstrating correct CPR techniques for the sake of showing what is correct and avoiding the aforementioned trope could actually seriously harm the actor it was being done on. Among other things, the pressure of well-done chest compressions are enough to not only restart the heartbeat, but it can break the person's sternum, the rescue breathing can be enough to cause vomiting, and the combination usually causes a lot of pain for the resuscitated person later. The person doing CPR is most likely well aware of the potential consequences, consequences but performs the procedure anyway because it can save that person's life, but only if it is done in combination with calling for qualified medical aid. CPR alone only guarantees a 2% chance of survival.



* One of the hardest things a parent, coach or teacher sometimes has to do is the opposite of helping a student/child overcome self-doubt. Sometimes, [[TragicDream one has to puncture a dream, shatter a hope, because the circumstances are such that it's just not going to happen and pursuing it can even be harmful]]. It's agonizingly hard to be sure when such kind cruelty is necessary, and very painful to inflict it. An example would be an offspring or student who is ''pretty good'' at baseball, say, and dreams of playing Major League Baseball. The trouble is that he's just not ''that'' good, he's not pro material and the parent or coach knows it, and knows his dream could keep him from pursuing a more realistic and achievable goal. How to tell him without being more cruel than need be? (And of course how to be sure you're right that he really doesn't have what it takes!) Similarly, a couple can be head-over-heels in ''love'' (or at least infatuation) and totally wrong and unsuited for each other, and all their relatives and friends know it. How to tell them or at least get them to '''think''' about it before they jump into something?

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* One of the hardest things a parent, coach coach, or teacher sometimes has to do is the opposite of helping a student/child overcome self-doubt. Sometimes, [[TragicDream one has to puncture a dream, shatter a hope, because the circumstances are such that it's just not going to happen and pursuing it can even be harmful]]. It's agonizingly hard to be sure when such kind cruelty is necessary, and very painful to inflict it. An example would be an offspring or student who is ''pretty good'' at baseball, say, and dreams of playing Major League Baseball. The trouble is that he's just not ''that'' good, he's not pro material and the parent or coach knows it, and knows his dream could keep him from pursuing a more realistic and achievable goal. How to tell him without being more cruel than need be? (And of course how to be sure you're right that he really doesn't have what it takes!) Similarly, a couple can be head-over-heels in ''love'' (or at least infatuation) and totally wrong and unsuited for each other, and all their relatives and friends know it. How to tell them or at least get them to '''think''' about it before they jump into something?



*** This goes triple for acting. Any actual actor believes the absolute worst thing to do to someone is tell them they have a chance to make it big if you don't think they do. Best case, they get motivated enough to prove you wrong, and develop the chops needed to succeed (rage against the person trying to crush your dream can be a pretty powerful motivator). Second best case is they listen to you, and drop the dream before it puts them on the streets (in that case they wouldn't have made it anyway, and you did them a huge favor) And if they do still try and fail, they will at least usually give up with enough of their life ahead of them and avoid losing everything chasing that dream, as it's a very expensive one to chase.

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*** This goes triple for acting. Any actual actor believes the absolute worst thing to do to someone is tell telling them they have a chance to make it big if you don't think they do. Best case, they get motivated enough to prove you wrong, and develop the chops needed to succeed (rage against the person trying to crush your dream can be a pretty powerful motivator). Second best Second-best case is they listen to you, and drop the dream before it puts them on the streets (in that case they wouldn't have made it anyway, and you did them a huge favor) And if they do still try and fail, they will at least usually give up with enough of their life ahead of them and avoid losing everything chasing that dream, as it's a very expensive one to chase.



* Interventions sometimes invoke the trope, especially with drugs and alcohol; the person being intervened has a serious problem and sometimes it takes a close knit of friends or family to come together and show the person that their actions are affecting not only themselves, but others that are close to them. The cold and harsh truth coming from people they know can break a person emotionally and it's sometimes what is needed to get the person to acknowledge that they have a problem and have to do something about it.

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* Interventions sometimes invoke the trope, especially with drugs and alcohol; the person being intervened has a serious problem and sometimes it takes a close knit of friends or family to come together and show the person that their actions are affecting not only themselves, themselves but others that are close to them. The cold and harsh truth coming from people they know can break a person emotionally and it's sometimes what is needed to get the person to acknowledge that they have a problem and have to do something about it.



* In most contexts, using another person as a HumanShield against their will is considered, not only cruel, but [[DirtyCoward downright cowardly]]. That is, unless you are a lifeguard saving a drowning victim, and you are about to be slammed against a hard surface by strong currents. In this case, putting the victim in front of yourself so they get hit instead of you is actually necessary to save both the victim and yourself. The logic being is that the lifeguard is the one who needs to be able to swim, meaning if they are injured, they will no longer be able to swim and both people will most likely end up drowning. Meanwhile, the drowning victim is already in danger, so it doesn't matter if they sustain any additional injuries during the rescue, as long as they still have a chance to be saved.
* Safety Boards can seem cruel and bureaucratic to the layman, but if they're functioning correctly, safety boards always consider human error. Even if the investigators are fairly certain the people involved did everything right, human factors has to be involved. The reason for this is to be certain that the investigation will catch all the causes- and discover any unknown causes. Additionally, the human factors investigators may find something that gave the people involved an advantage, and in such a case those findings are included in the final report and recommendations. For example, after the crash of United Flight 232, the human factors specialists looking at the flight crew pointed to their successful use of Crew Resource Management as a factor in the survivability of the accident. Even though people were killed, it would have been far worse had the crew not been performing at the highest level of CRM. This led to the NTSB recommending that CRM be made law, and the FAA following suit. Meanwhile, the human factors investigators looking into the maintenance found a serious failure both in record keeping by the parts manufacturers who had made the faulty fan disk that caused the accident, and by United maintenance workers who had inspected the disk. The result was the implementation of better record keeping systems and more thorough inspection processes to increase the chances of preventing such an accident.
* Homework, the bane of most children's life. However, it is important to the child's education, and also teaches time management.

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* In most contexts, using another person as a HumanShield against their will is considered, considered not only cruel, cruel but [[DirtyCoward downright cowardly]]. That is, unless you are a lifeguard saving a drowning victim, and you are about to be slammed against a hard surface by strong currents. In this case, putting the victim in front of yourself so they get hit instead of you is actually necessary to save both the victim and yourself. The logic being is that the lifeguard is the one who needs to be able to swim, meaning if they are injured, they will no longer be able to swim and both people will most likely end up drowning. Meanwhile, the drowning victim is already in danger, so it doesn't matter if they sustain any additional injuries during the rescue, as long as they still have a chance to be saved.
* Safety Boards can seem cruel and bureaucratic to the layman, but if they're functioning correctly, safety boards always consider human error. Even if the investigators are fairly certain the people involved did everything right, human factors has have to be involved. The reason for this is to be certain that the investigation will catch all the causes- and discover any unknown causes. Additionally, the human factors investigators may find something that gave the people involved an advantage, and in such a case those findings are included in the final report and recommendations. For example, after the crash of United Flight 232, the human factors specialists looking at the flight crew pointed to their successful use of Crew Resource Management as a factor in the survivability of the accident. Even though people were killed, it would have been far worse had the crew not been performing at the highest level of CRM. This led to the NTSB recommending that CRM be made law, and the FAA following suit. Meanwhile, the human factors investigators looking into the maintenance found a serious failure both in record keeping by the parts manufacturers who had made the faulty fan disk that caused the accident, and by United maintenance workers who had inspected the disk. The result was the implementation of better record keeping record-keeping systems and more thorough inspection processes to increase the chances of preventing such an accident.
* Homework, the bane of most children's life. However, it is important to the child's education, education and also teaches time management.
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* ''Fanfic/TowardsTheSun'': Zuko continues to refuse to listen to Iroh even as he's having a literal heart attack due to all the stress of being Fire Lord, due to Iroh never taking responsibility as a prince. This results in Iroh challenging Zuko to Agni Kai to oust Zuko as Fire Lord. While Iroh saves Zuko's life, having to re-live the worst memory of his life emotionally destroys Zuko. Zuko's relationship with Iroh is destroyed and ruins Iroh's credibility as Fire Lord.

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* ''Fanfic/TowardsTheSun'': Zuko continues to refuse to listen to Iroh about working less, even as he's when having a literal heart attack due to all the stress of being Fire Lord, attack, due to Iroh never taking responsibility as a prince.prince, and the fact that he has not said anything beforehand about his personal politics means his nephew does not feel he can trust him with such an important position. This results in Iroh challenging Zuko to Agni Kai to oust Zuko as Fire Lord. While Iroh saves Zuko's life, having to re-live the worst memory of his life at the hands of someone he trusted emotionally destroys wrecks Zuko. Zuko's relationship with Iroh is destroyed and and, further, the act ruins Iroh's credibility as Fire Lord.
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* ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'': PlayedForDrama and ultimately {{deconstructed|Trope}}. [[ByronicHero Quackity]], at least in the darkest parts of his spiral, seemed to view various events in his TraumaCongaLine of a life [[MiseryBuildsCharacter as "lessons" to be "learnt"]], e.g. not to trust others or [[SafetyInIndifference to create emotional attachment]] [[spoiler:(spoiler on the latter "lesson", he's a massive {{hypocrite}} about it)]], instead of genuinely traumatic events that no one should have to go through--or would have gone through if the DSMP weren't a CrapsackWorld to begin with. As a result of this, he shows this mentality in his third "Las Nevadas" stream and Tina's introduction to the server, rather aggressively [[PsychologicalProjection projecting]] these "lessons" onto others in a SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids sort of way, likely thinking it would spare others from the trauma ''he'' had gone through to "learn" those "lessons". For the most part, this is indicated to be a negative mentality to demonstrate [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis the degree Quackity's fallen]], and all of this ends up making his victims (for lack of a better word) either concerned for him and his mental well-being (e.g. Foolish and Slime[[spoiler:/Charlie]]), question this mentality and his morality (e.g. Tina), [[spoiler:or plot revenge against him (e.g. Purpled)]]. Quackity did later admit some of those courses of action were pretty fucked up and apologized for doing so, [[spoiler:but let's just say Purpled [[BestServedCold does not forgive easily]], and Slime/Charlie eventually goes on to call him out for perpetuating the CycleOfRevenge and TheChainOfHarm through this.]]

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* ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'': PlayedForDrama and ultimately {{deconstructed|Trope}}. [[ByronicHero Quackity]], at least in the darkest parts of his spiral, seemed to view various events in his TraumaCongaLine of a life [[MiseryBuildsCharacter as "lessons" to be "learnt"]], e.g. not to trust others or [[SafetyInIndifference to create emotional attachment]] [[spoiler:(spoiler on the latter "lesson", he's a massive {{hypocrite}} about it)]], instead of genuinely traumatic events that no one should have to go through--or through -- or would have gone through if the DSMP weren't a CrapsackWorld to begin with. As a result of this, he shows this mentality in his third "Las Nevadas" stream and Tina's introduction to the server, rather aggressively [[PsychologicalProjection projecting]] these "lessons" onto others in a SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids sort of way, likely thinking it would spare others from the trauma ''he'' had gone through to "learn" those "lessons". For the most part, this is indicated to be a negative mentality to demonstrate [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis the degree Quackity's fallen]], and all of this ends up making his victims (for lack of a better word) either concerned for him and his mental well-being (e.g. Foolish and Slime[[spoiler:/Charlie]]), question this mentality and his morality (e.g. Tina), [[spoiler:or plot revenge against him (e.g. Purpled)]]. Quackity did later admit some of those courses of action were pretty fucked up and apologized for doing so, [[spoiler:but let's just say Purpled [[BestServedCold does not forgive easily]], and Slime/Charlie eventually goes on to call him out for perpetuating the CycleOfRevenge and TheChainOfHarm through this.]]



-->'''Brian''': I'm not gonna call the hospital, because you won't learn anything if I do.

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-->'''Brian''': -->'''Brian:''' I'm not gonna call the hospital, because you won't learn anything if I do.
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* Raz the [[PsychicPowers psychic]] hero of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is terrified of his father, Augustus. As circus performers, Augustus trains Raz so harshly that the boy is convinced his father hates him for being psychic. The truth is that [[spoiler:all Raz's dad wanted was to instill discipline in his son so that his powers would not go to waste and that would be ready for the dangers his talents would draw to him]].

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* Raz the [[PsychicPowers psychic]] hero of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is terrified of his father, Augustus. As circus performers, Augustus trains Raz so harshly that the boy is convinced his father hates him for being psychic. The truth is that [[spoiler:all Raz's dad wanted was to instill discipline in his son so that his powers would not go to waste and that so Raz would be ready for the dangers his talents would draw to him]].
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* Raz the [[PsychicPowers psychic]] hero of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is terrified of his father, Augustus. As circus performers, Augustus trains Raz so harshly that the boy is convinced his father hates him for being psychic. The truth is that [[spoiler:all Raz's dad wanted was to instill discipline in his son so that his powers would not go to waste]].

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* Raz the [[PsychicPowers psychic]] hero of ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is terrified of his father, Augustus. As circus performers, Augustus trains Raz so harshly that the boy is convinced his father hates him for being psychic. The truth is that [[spoiler:all Raz's dad wanted was to instill discipline in his son so that his powers would not go to waste]].waste and that would be ready for the dangers his talents would draw to him]].

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