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** Of course, he ''has'' been known in public to be very gracious and good-humored and friendly, so this may more be just a case of the fans who pester him to bring back ''Invader Zim'', which he's grown to slightly hate due to it being bastardized by Nickelodeon and having nearly all control of it ripped away from him.

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Creative jobs (acting, writing, making music or films, etc) are often seen by their fans as some kind of utopian ideal; you're creating art, using your imagination, and are apparently freed from the nine-to-five wage slave grind. Writers, actors, voice actors and artists seem to have an edge over the rest of us; they're doing something they enjoy, something really creative, something that makes people happy. How could you ''not'' enjoy a job like that?

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Creative jobs (acting, writing, making music or films, etc) are often seen by their fans as some kind of utopian ideal; you're creating art, using your imagination, and are apparently freed from the nine-to-five wage slave grind. Writers, actors, voice actors actors, and artists seem to have an edge over the rest of us; they're doing something they enjoy, something really creative, something that makes people happy. How could you ''not'' enjoy a job like that?



True artist disillusionment is when the artist just isn't having any fun at all any more and is making no secret of that fact. They've given up being a SlaveToPR, and as such are rude and dismissive in public appearances and interviews, snap the head off fans who manage to fray their one remaining nerve, and generally come across as a grouchy, impatient jackass. Their work may even begin to suffer. [[CreatorsApathy They just don't care anymore.]] And this lack of caring tends to express itself through insults towards their audience and fans.

Overfamiliarity can play a part; some artists have been doing their job for decades, which is easily long enough for boredom to kick in. They might be sick of all the executive meddling they have to face, or have achieved ProtectionFromEditors to such a degree that anyone daring to raise a word of criticism is going to rub them up the wrong way. And sometimes the artist is just naturally a bit grouchy, intolerant and impatient, or is a SmallNameBigEgo type. All of which is going to make an unpleasant experience for the poor sap who happens to get on the wrong side of their temper.

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True artist disillusionment is when the artist just isn't having any fun at all any more anymore and is making no secret of that fact. They've given up being a SlaveToPR, and as such are rude and dismissive in public appearances and interviews, snap the head off fans who manage to fray their one remaining nerve, and generally come across as a grouchy, impatient jackass. Their work may even begin to suffer. [[CreatorsApathy They just don't care anymore.]] And this lack of caring tends to express itself through insults towards their audience and fans.

Overfamiliarity can play a part; some artists have been doing their job for decades, which is easily long enough for boredom to kick in. They might be sick of all the executive meddling they have to face, face or have achieved ProtectionFromEditors to such a degree that anyone daring to raise a word of criticism is going to rub them up the wrong way. And sometimes the artist is just naturally a bit grouchy, intolerant and impatient, or is a SmallNameBigEgo type. All of which is going to make an unpleasant experience for the poor sap who happens to get on the wrong side of their temper.



* Hideaki Anno was reputed to be resentful of the MisaimedFandom of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' as well as the death threats his fans sent him after the GainaxEnding of the series that he created [[TheMovie a film that more or less replaced the last two episodes]] as the true ending. Without giving anything away, it was the ''exact opposite'' of what many fans of the series wanted and, in some cases, expected. The truth is this was the original ending before executive meddling, and with the exception of one or two scenes the work was not intended as a [[TakeThat jab]] against the fans. He did show the death threats sent to him ''on-screen'' after the movie was over, and a certain scene of FanDisservice is interpreted to target some of the fans. However, according to [[https://wiki.evageeks.org/End_of_Evangelion_Death_Threats various translations]] of the quick-flashing letters in the live-action sequence, most of them are actually fairly supportive letters, some from middle-schoolers (the same age range as the main character) telling Anno how much ''Evangelion'' inspired them and helped them in their own lives. Only two of these, the more negative and threatening of the lot, can really be considered "death threats".
* The author of ''LightNovel/ReZero'', Tappei Nagatsuki, is a unique case in that not only does he despise modern day NEET otaku, but he also despises the light novel industry, particularly generic Isekai stories, in general, hence many of LightNovel/ReZero's [[TakeThatAudience jabs toward the audience]] being the result of this. Nagatsuki has even stated outright that the reason his characters suffer great pain that is a little too close to home for many of these Otaku is because he feels modern Isekai LN authors aren't ballsy enough to do so.

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* Hideaki Anno was reputed to be resentful of the MisaimedFandom of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' as well as the death threats his fans sent him after the GainaxEnding of the series that he created [[TheMovie a film that more or less replaced the last two episodes]] as the true ending. Without giving anything away, it was the ''exact opposite'' of what many fans of the series wanted and, in some cases, expected. The truth is this was the original ending before executive meddling, and with the exception of one or two scenes scenes, the work was not intended as a [[TakeThat jab]] against the fans. He did show the death threats sent to him ''on-screen'' after the movie was over, and a certain scene of FanDisservice is interpreted to target some of the fans. However, according to [[https://wiki.evageeks.org/End_of_Evangelion_Death_Threats various translations]] of the quick-flashing letters in the live-action sequence, most of them are actually fairly supportive letters, some from middle-schoolers (the same age range as the main character) telling Anno how much ''Evangelion'' inspired them and helped them in their own lives. Only two of these, the more negative and threatening of the lot, can really be considered "death threats".
* The author of ''LightNovel/ReZero'', Tappei Nagatsuki, is a unique case in that not only does he despise modern day NEET otaku, but he also despises the light novel industry, particularly generic Isekai stories, in general, hence many of LightNovel/ReZero's [[TakeThatAudience jabs toward the audience]] being the result of this. Nagatsuki has even stated outright that the reason his characters suffer great pain that is a little too close to home for many of these Otaku is because that he feels modern Isekai LN authors aren't ballsy enough to do so.



** A notable aversion was Creator/JamesDoohan, who absolutely loved the convention circuit and went out of his way to accommodate fans. On numerous occasions he has told a story about a fan who wrote him a letter that was [[https://youtu.be/COJuF7n9gGA basically a suicide note]]. So Doohan called her and invited her to a convention in Indianapolis. He then pulled a Scheherazade and told her that he expected to see her at the next convention, and the next, and the next, and it apparently worked. It worked so well that he had struck up a correspondence with her and acted as her mentor. After a while he stopped receiving letters from her and was concerned that she had fallen to depression and suicide, and he hadn't kept hold of her address to reach out to her. Eight years later, he received another letter from her apologizing for the silence -- she had returned to college and had gotten her Master's degree in Electronic Engineering.

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** A notable aversion was Creator/JamesDoohan, who absolutely loved the convention circuit and went out of his way to accommodate fans. On numerous occasions he has told a story about a fan who wrote him a letter that was [[https://youtu.be/COJuF7n9gGA basically a suicide note]]. So Doohan called her and invited her to a convention in Indianapolis. He then pulled a Scheherazade and told her that he expected to see her at the next convention, and the next, and the next, and it apparently worked. It worked so well that he had struck up a correspondence with her and acted as her mentor. After a while while, he stopped receiving letters from her and was concerned that she had fallen to depression and suicide, and he hadn't kept hold of her address to reach out to her. Eight years later, he received another letter from her apologizing for the silence -- she had returned to college and had gotten her Master's degree in Electronic Engineering.



* Perhaps the second most famous example of this is Music/LaurynHill. As the most notable member of Music/TheFugees she became a star thanks to their album ''Music/TheScore''. When her solo debut ''Music/TheMiseducationOfLaurynHill'' came out, it was both a critical and a commercial success. Even when listened to today, it hasn't aged that bad, mostly because Hill made it more of a {{Soul}} album than a HipHop album. But Lauryn didn't like the way the music industry worked, putting a ridiculous amount of effort into maintaining a personal vision without the burden of ExecutiveMeddling, and in the end decided that she wanted to focus more on her family. Not helping matters is that, a few years ago, she was convicted of tax evasion and has had quite a few financial setbacks as a result. Barring an Unplugged album that was released in ''2002'' and the occasional tour, she doesn't seem all that interested in bringing out new material, making a revival of her music pretty unlikely nowadays.

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* Perhaps the second most famous example of this is Music/LaurynHill. As the most notable member of Music/TheFugees she became a star thanks to their album ''Music/TheScore''. When her solo debut ''Music/TheMiseducationOfLaurynHill'' came out, it was both a critical and a commercial success. Even when listened to today, it hasn't aged that bad, mostly because Hill made it more of a {{Soul}} album than a HipHop album. But Lauryn didn't like the way the music industry worked, putting a ridiculous amount of effort into maintaining a personal vision without the burden of ExecutiveMeddling, and in the end end, decided that she wanted to focus more on her family. Not helping matters is that, a few years ago, she was convicted of tax evasion and has had quite a few financial setbacks as a result. Barring an Unplugged album that was released in ''2002'' and the occasional tour, she doesn't seem all that interested in bringing out new material, making a revival of her music pretty unlikely nowadays.



* Music/PinkFloyd suffered from two major bouts of this. The first affected Music/SydBarrett, who found himself increasingly uneasy with their growing exposure, audience sizes and TV appearances, and didn't want the group to become any more famous. None of the others agreed with this, their rising fame was impossible to halt, and Syd sought greater and greater refuge in drugs, leading to his downward spiral into paranoia and insanity. (This was later commemorated in the album ''Music/WishYouWereHere''.) Roger Waters also suffered from the vast audiences and changed audience composition brought by their mainstream success following ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon''. While their old psychedelic fans tended to be quiet during the numbers and appreciative at the end of them, the new mainstream fans, though very appreciative, were also very loud and rowdy, and usually spent the whole set calling for "Money". This culminated the infamous incident during the ''Music/{{Animals}}'' tour where Roger spat on a particularly loud and rowdy fan (and the fan ''loved'' it). This lead to the jokey suggestion that they needed a wall between him and the audience, which led to ''Music/TheWall''.

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* Music/PinkFloyd suffered from two major bouts of this. The first affected Music/SydBarrett, who found himself increasingly uneasy with their growing exposure, audience sizes sizes, and TV appearances, and didn't want the group to become any more famous. None of the others agreed with this, their rising fame was impossible to halt, and Syd sought greater and greater refuge in drugs, leading to his downward spiral into paranoia and insanity. (This was later commemorated in the album ''Music/WishYouWereHere''.) Roger Waters also suffered from the vast audiences and changed audience composition brought by their mainstream success following ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon''. While their old psychedelic fans tended to be quiet during the numbers and appreciative at the end of them, the new mainstream fans, though very appreciative, were also very loud and rowdy, and usually spent the whole set calling for "Money". This culminated the infamous incident during the ''Music/{{Animals}}'' tour where Roger spat on a particularly loud and rowdy fan (and the fan ''loved'' it). This lead to the jokey suggestion that they needed a wall between him and the audience, which led to ''Music/TheWall''.



* When the Music/{{Carpenters}} first began performing, Karen Carpenter, who had been drumming since school, took charge of the drum kit but also sang. As her amazing voice made its mark on the growing audiences, she came under increasing pressure from managers and promoters to stop hiding behind her drums, glam up and become the [[FaceOfTheBand lead singer and frontwoman]] - none of which she wanted to do, and all of which made her uneasy. When her hand was eventually forced, the resulting stress, and the various stage fright coping methods she tried, all contributed to her mental and physical health issues and, ultimately, her untimely death.

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* When the Music/{{Carpenters}} first began performing, Karen Carpenter, who had been drumming since school, took charge of the drum kit but also sang. As her amazing voice made its mark on the growing audiences, she came under increasing pressure from managers and promoters to stop hiding behind her drums, glam up up, and become the [[FaceOfTheBand lead singer and frontwoman]] - none of which she wanted to do, and all of which made her uneasy. When her hand was eventually forced, the resulting stress, and the various stage fright coping methods she tried, all contributed to her mental and physical health issues and, ultimately, her untimely death.death in 1983.



* Narrowly averted by Music/DavidBowie. By the end of TheEighties, he was deeply unhappy with his work. His NewbieBoom after the deliberately radio-friendly ''Let's Dance'' led him to bigger audiences and more income than he'd ever known before, but also to two albums that just followed on from that style, whereas before he had [[Main/NewSoundAlbum followed his muse]]. Critics picked on him, longtime fans labeled him a sellout, and trying to please newer fans brought him little lasting satisfaction. After the Glass Spider Tour, he considered retiring from music to focus on painting. Guitarist Reeves Gabrels convinced him that he just needed to break away from pleasing others and rediscover his muse. While Tin Machine, the HardRock group Bowie and Gabrels formed with Hunt and Tony Sales in the process, is widely regarded as a DorkAge by fans and critics, it did rekindle his love of performing and paved the way for an artistic comeback in TheNineties as a solo artist. And the whole concept of his breakthrough album ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars" was about the angst of being a rock performer.

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* Narrowly averted by Music/DavidBowie. By the end of TheEighties, he was deeply unhappy with his work. His NewbieBoom after the deliberately radio-friendly ''Let's Dance'' led him to bigger audiences and more income than he'd ever known before, but also to two albums that just followed on from that style, whereas before he had [[Main/NewSoundAlbum followed his muse]]. Critics picked on him, longtime fans labeled him a sellout, sell-out, and trying to please newer fans brought him little lasting satisfaction. After the Glass Spider Tour, he considered retiring from music to focus on painting. Guitarist Reeves Gabrels convinced him that he just needed to break away from pleasing others and rediscover his muse. While Tin Machine, the HardRock group Bowie and Gabrels formed with Hunt and Tony Sales in the process, is widely regarded as a DorkAge by fans and critics, it did rekindle his love of performing and paved the way for an artistic comeback in TheNineties as a solo artist. And the whole concept of his breakthrough album ''Music/TheRiseAndFallOfZiggyStardustAndTheSpidersFromMars" was about the angst of being a rock performer.



* Music/GeorgeMichael emerged from [[TheEighties 1980s]] British BoyBand Music/{{Wham}} in 1986, releasing his debut solo album ''Faith'' a year later. Though critically acclaimed and one of the top albums in 1987-89, making Michael a megastar as his own artist, he still felt his image as a sex symbol (a holdover from his Wham! days, but slightly more geared to an adult image) belied the artistry and craft he put into ''Faith'', and he longed to be taken as a serious, even topical artist. Moreover, he was discovering [[StraightGay his homosexuality in private]], which contradicted the macho, girl-crazy image he projected since the Wham! days, his parents and gay lover were both dying and he was having troubles with his label, Sony. Soon, more serious-minded, less danceable and pop-friendly albums like ''Listen Without Prejudice, Vol. 1'' and ''Older'' emerged. Michael also appeared less and less in his own music videos, one of which, "Freedom '90", symbolically showed an image of his ''Faith''-era leather jacket, blue jeans and archtop acoustic guitar burning in a closet. His arrest for "lewd conduct"(i.e. exposing himself to an undercover police officer) in a public toilet in Beverly Hills in 1998 led to his eventual self-outing. This, and his consistent arrests for drunk driving and/or drug possession stunted his career, and he ended up never reaching the heights of his ''Faith'' days again.

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* Music/GeorgeMichael emerged from [[TheEighties 1980s]] British BoyBand Music/{{Wham}} in 1986, releasing his debut solo album ''Faith'' a year later. Though critically acclaimed and one of the top albums in 1987-89, making Michael a megastar as his own artist, he still felt his image as a sex symbol (a holdover from his Wham! days, but slightly more geared to an adult image) belied the artistry and craft he put into ''Faith'', and he longed to be taken as a serious, even topical artist. Moreover, he was discovering [[StraightGay his homosexuality in private]], which contradicted the macho, girl-crazy image he projected since the Wham! days, his parents and gay lover were both dying and he was having troubles with his label, label Sony. Soon, more serious-minded, less danceable and pop-friendly albums like ''Listen Without Prejudice, Vol. 1'' and ''Older'' emerged. Michael also appeared less and less in his own music videos, one of which, "Freedom '90", symbolically showed an image of his ''Faith''-era leather jacket, blue jeans jeans, and archtop acoustic guitar burning in a closet. His arrest for "lewd conduct"(i.e. exposing himself to an undercover police officer) in a public toilet in Beverly Hills in 1998 led to his eventual self-outing. This, and his consistent arrests for drunk driving and/or drug possession stunted his career, and he ended up never reaching the heights of his ''Faith'' days again.



* Phil Fish of ''VideoGame/{{FEZ}}'' fame quit the games industry a short way into development of "Fez II", as a result years of rage and insults being hurled at him, with Marcus Beer's remarks being the final straw. It should be noted that certain developers and journalists who saw first-hand what he was put through by the gaming community tend to be amazed he held on as long as he did. Phil was very vocal about slinging vitriol and seemed to almost encourage it coming his way, seeming to feed off the trolls. At some point, though, it seemed to hit a tipping point, and he lost all interest in dealing with the drama. Unfortunately, one can't just turn the internet off like that, and it never stopped coming in, leading to overload and total disillusionment.

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* Phil Fish of ''VideoGame/{{FEZ}}'' fame quit the games industry a short way into development of "Fez II", as a result result, years of rage and insults being hurled at him, with Marcus Beer's remarks being the final straw. It should be noted that certain developers and journalists who saw first-hand what he was put through by the gaming community tend to be amazed he held on as long as he did. Phil was very vocal about slinging vitriol and seemed to almost encourage it coming his way, seeming to feed off the trolls. At some point, though, it seemed to hit a tipping point, and he lost all interest in dealing with the drama. Unfortunately, one can't just turn the internet off like that, and it never stopped coming in, leading to overload and total disillusionment.



* The authors of ''Webcomic/GoneWithTheBlastwave'' have clearly stated that they're doing the comics for themselves and not the fans, they even went as far as to actively disencourage the fan translations the comic was getting. Though, as of late, it ''seems'' that they are slowly changing their posture with all the attention they're getting.

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* The authors of ''Webcomic/GoneWithTheBlastwave'' have clearly stated that they're doing the comics for themselves and not the fans, they even went as far as to actively disencourage discourage the fan translations the comic was getting. Though, as of late, it ''seems'' that they are slowly changing their posture with all the attention they're getting.



* Many of the more well known people in the WebAnimation/YouTubePoop community suffer from this, and have outright given up on a poop "series" or pooping in general just to spite the fans who ruined the fun for them.
** The reason why WebAnimation/WalrusGuy retired from pooping is because he feared that was what he was becoming best known for, rather than flash animation where his real passion was.

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* Many of the more well known well-known people in the WebAnimation/YouTubePoop community suffer from this, this and have outright given up on a poop "series" or pooping in general just to spite the fans who ruined the fun for them.
** The reason why WebAnimation/WalrusGuy retired from pooping is because that he feared that was what he was becoming best known for, rather than flash animation where his real passion was.



* Glee spoofers ''SIMGM'' are quick to come down on fans asking them when the next video will be out, to the degree that when a fan asks they are blocked by their Tumblr, Twitter and Website/YouTube channel.

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* Glee spoofers ''SIMGM'' are quick to come down on fans asking them when the next video will be out, to the degree that when a fan asks they are blocked by their Tumblr, Twitter Twitter, and Website/YouTube channel.



* LetsPlay/LewisBrindley, in response to constant badgering about ''[[Machinima/YogscastMinecraftSeries Shadow of Israphel]]'', has said that he's ''really'' tired of it, and that he actually feels demotivated to do it. This, on top of a lot of the old creation team no longer being available and the LetsPlay/{{Yogscast}} in general being more busy, means that the show's hiatus is unlikely to end anytime soon.
* LetsPlay/HannahRutherford has fairly openly bashed more vocal parts of the Yogscast fandom that reside mostly on Tumblr. This is partly due to some disturbing fanworks about her real life relationship, which she quite understandably is not amused by. The other peeve of hers are various blogs that accuse her of being problematic for reasons that are not always valid, most notably with her playthrough of ''VideoGame/{{Outlast}}''.

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* LetsPlay/LewisBrindley, in response to constant badgering about ''[[Machinima/YogscastMinecraftSeries Shadow of Israphel]]'', has said that he's ''really'' tired of it, and that he actually feels demotivated to do it. This, on top of a lot of the old creation team no longer being available and the LetsPlay/{{Yogscast}} in general being more busy, busier, means that the show's hiatus is unlikely to end anytime soon.
* LetsPlay/HannahRutherford has fairly openly bashed more vocal parts of the Yogscast fandom that reside mostly on Tumblr. This is partly due to some disturbing fanworks about her real life real-life relationship, which she quite understandably is not amused by. The other peeve of hers are various blogs that accuse her of being problematic for reasons that are not always valid, most notably with her playthrough of ''VideoGame/{{Outlast}}''.



* Justin "Amnaeon" Bonitz Was a very talented Metal Vocalist and Website/YouTube performer, his rise to fame was in part due to the song covers he would do on request. However, as of April 11th 2015 he experienced a massive CreatorBreakdown, in which he mocked and insulted his FanDumb and in fact all of his subscribers, due to the constant stream of cover requests overshadowing his other work. [[TakeThatAudience He then removed over 3 or 4 years worth of content and left only the breakdown video and another one titled "I quit" and changed his channel banner to a collection of insults aimed at anyone viewing.]]

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* Justin "Amnaeon" Bonitz Was a very talented Metal Vocalist and Website/YouTube performer, his rise to fame was in part due to the song covers he would do on request. However, as of April 11th 2015 11th, 2015, he experienced a massive CreatorBreakdown, in which he mocked and insulted his FanDumb and in fact all of his subscribers, due to the constant stream of cover requests overshadowing his other work. [[TakeThatAudience He then removed over 3 or 4 years worth of content and left only the breakdown video and another one titled "I quit" and changed his channel banner to a collection of insults aimed at anyone viewing.]]



* In the graphic novels about ComicBook/JohannaAndHelena, Helena becomes a successful stand up comedian, but really hates it. The worst part is that her inane babble is considered deep and true art and all that kind of bullshit. The emperor is indeed naked, but in this case the emperor and the child is the same person. Eventually she publicly denounces it all, pretty much claiming that the world must be a CrapsackWorld after all since people obviously actually like a show such as hers.
* In one issue of ''ComicBook/{{Riskhospitalet}}'', a news anchorman is saying all kinds of nasty things during a show broadcast in real time. As his finish his speech with mooning the camera, his staff receives a phone call from the hospital - explaining that they mixed up the lab results and that the anchorman is in fact not dying.

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* In the graphic novels about ComicBook/JohannaAndHelena, Helena becomes a successful stand up stand-up comedian, but really hates it. The worst part is that her inane babble is considered deep and true art and all that kind of bullshit. The emperor is indeed naked, but in this case case, the emperor and the child is are the same person. Eventually Eventually, she publicly denounces it all, pretty much claiming that the world must be a CrapsackWorld after all since people obviously actually like a show such as hers.
* In one issue of ''ComicBook/{{Riskhospitalet}}'', a news anchorman is saying all kinds of nasty things during a show broadcast in real time. As his finish he finishes his speech with mooning the camera, his staff receives a phone call from the hospital - explaining that they mixed up the lab results and that the anchorman is in fact not dying.



* In ''Film/GroundhogDay'', the protagonist really despises his fanbase, but normally keeps it off camera. As he's stuck in a GroundhogDayLoop, he sometimes starts to bitch publicly as a way of venting his frustration. Luckily for him, the timeloop didn't end on any of those particular days.
* The film ''Film/GalaxyQuest'' is all about this phenomenon and about the disillusionment and sense of lost opportunity that can result when an actor has to spend a large chunk of his/her life [[IAmNotSpock trapped by the popularity of a single role]]. The [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra Shakespearean-trained]] Alexander Dane (Creator/AlanRickman) seemed to suffer the most out of all the title show's cast members, since he had given up a respectable stage career to play a [[RubberForeheadAliens Rubber Forehead Alien.]] Of course, the experience is revitalized for all of them and the illusion restored by the end of the movie.
* Billy Mack from ''Film/LoveActually'' is a former big-name rock star who's fallen on hard times, and he just has stopped giving a damn and completely snaps when his newest desperate attempt to climb back to the top is an album full of song covers with slightly altered lyrics to make them Christmas-themed. At every public appearance he gleefully lambastes the album while still asking people to buy it, just so the number one Christmas album won't be a cookie cutter boy band. It works.
* Mike Connor in ''Film/ThePhiladelphiaStory'' is a poet whose book netted him something in the range of $700, and so puts on a cynical front working as a tabloid reporter to pay the bills. Upper class Tracy Lord, who he's spying on for material, reads his work and offers to sponsor his artistic endeavours only to have him shoot it down as old-fashioned and patronising of her to think she can just make him her "kept artist".

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* In ''Film/GroundhogDay'', the protagonist really despises his fanbase, but normally keeps it off camera.off-camera. As he's stuck in a GroundhogDayLoop, he sometimes starts to bitch publicly as a way of venting his frustration. Luckily for him, the timeloop time loop didn't end on any of those particular days.
* The film ''Film/GalaxyQuest'' is all about this phenomenon and about the disillusionment and sense of lost opportunity that can result when an actor has to spend a large chunk of his/her life [[IAmNotSpock trapped by the popularity of a single role]]. The [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra Shakespearean-trained]] Alexander Dane (Creator/AlanRickman) seemed to suffer the most out of all the title show's cast members, members since he had given up a respectable stage career to play a [[RubberForeheadAliens Rubber Forehead Alien.]] Of course, the experience is revitalized for all of them them, and the illusion restored by the end of the movie.
* Billy Mack from ''Film/LoveActually'' is a former big-name rock star who's fallen on hard times, and he just has stopped giving a damn and completely snaps when his newest desperate attempt to climb back to the top is an album full of song covers with slightly altered lyrics to make them Christmas-themed. At every public appearance appearance, he gleefully lambastes the album while still asking people to buy it, just so the number one Christmas album won't be a cookie cutter cookie-cutter boy band. It works.
* Mike Connor in ''Film/ThePhiladelphiaStory'' is a poet whose book netted him something in the range of $700, and so puts on a cynical front working as a tabloid reporter to pay the bills. Upper class Upper-class Tracy Lord, who he's spying on for material, reads his work and offers to sponsor his artistic endeavours only to have him shoot it down as old-fashioned and patronising of her to think she can just make him her "kept artist".



* The "fame sucks" song has a long-standing place in rock and roll. One example is "Across the Sea" by Music/{{Weezer}}, which details Rivers Cuomo's dissatisfaction about the music business while singing about a fan letter from Japan.

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* The "fame sucks" song has a long-standing place in rock and roll. One example is "Across the Sea" by Music/{{Weezer}}, which details Rivers Cuomo's dissatisfaction about with the music business while singing about a fan letter from Japan.



* A big plot element in ''Webcomic/{{Megatokyo}}'' is actor/fan relations. Among the main characters is former idol (and BrokenBird) Erika, who found that her idealistic dream of being a voice actress was destroyed by fan obsessiveness, the negative impact her job had on her personal life and her own disillusionment - that resulted in nearly killing her best friend. Her experience at the height of her fame has only left her aloof and cynical ([[spoiler:until Largo comes along...]])

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* A big plot element in ''Webcomic/{{Megatokyo}}'' is actor/fan relations. Among the main characters is former idol (and BrokenBird) Erika, who found that her idealistic dream of being a voice actress was destroyed by fan obsessiveness, the negative impact her job had on her personal life life, and her own disillusionment - that resulted in nearly killing her best friend. Her experience at the height of her fame has only left her aloof and cynical ([[spoiler:until Largo comes along...]])



* The band Dethklok from ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' qualify. While they love their music, they dislike working on new albums, hate their fans with a passion (as best seen in the song "Fansong" for the members of their fanclub who showed up for fan appreciation day). They also dislike other people who work in the music industry with them (Nathan sighing at another "douchebag industry party" at the launch of their new album).

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* The band Dethklok from ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' qualify. While they love their music, they dislike working on new albums, hate their fans with a passion (as best seen in the song "Fansong" for the members of their fanclub fan club who showed up for fan appreciation day). They also dislike other people who work in the music industry with them (Nathan sighing at another "douchebag industry party" at the launch of their new album).


** For many years, the cast of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including Creator/WilliamShatner's notable anti-''Trek'' rant on an episode of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', and Creator/LeonardNimoy's famous tell-all book ''IAmNotSpock'' (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book ''Trek Memories'' went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again, and Nimoy published a follow-up, ''I Am Spock'' addressing this turnaround. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it.

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** For many years, the cast of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including Creator/WilliamShatner's notable anti-''Trek'' rant on an episode of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', and Creator/LeonardNimoy's famous tell-all book ''IAmNotSpock'' (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book ''Trek Memories'' went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again, and Nimoy published a follow-up, ''I Am Spock'' Spock'', addressing this turnaround. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it.


* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]'' Thankfully it did get a proper conclusion but on [[WesternAnimationOKKOLetsBeHeroes another series]].

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* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]'' Thankfully it did get a proper conclusion but on [[WesternAnimationOKKOLetsBeHeroes [[WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes another series]].


* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]'' Thankfully it did get a proper conclusion but on [[WesternAnimationOKKOLetBeHeroes another series]].

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* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]'' Thankfully it did get a proper conclusion but on [[WesternAnimationOKKOLetBeHeroes [[WesternAnimationOKKOLetsBeHeroes another series]].


* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]''.

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* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]''.arc]]'' Thankfully it did get a proper conclusion but on [[WesternAnimationOKKOLetBeHeroes another series]].


** For many years, the cast of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including Creator/WilliamShatner's notable anti-''Trek'' rant on an episode of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', and Creator/LeonardNimoy's famous tell-all book ''I Am Not Spock'' (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book ''Trek Memories'' went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it.

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** For many years, the cast of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including Creator/WilliamShatner's notable anti-''Trek'' rant on an episode of ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', and Creator/LeonardNimoy's famous tell-all book ''I Am Not Spock'' ''IAmNotSpock'' (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book ''Trek Memories'' went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again.again, and Nimoy published a follow-up, ''I Am Spock'' addressing this turnaround. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it.

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* Ben Harclerode left Music/{{Whitechapel}} and music in general because he was tired of touring for a living, was burned out on heavy music, and had wanted to quit for some time, but had stuck around solely because Whitechapel paid his bills and gave him a comfortable standard of living. It wasn't until he got serious with his then-girlfriend (who owned a gym) that he could afford to leave the band, and he stated in no uncertain terms that he was at the point where he was so tired of being a professional musician that he was doing a disservice to both the fans and his bandmates by staying in the band.


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* It's been obvious on the ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' forums that Rich Burlew has become thoroughly sick of people questioning whether something that happened is in the comic is within the rules of ''Dungeons & Dragons''. It's a bit hard to blame him for this as 1) this has been happening for years; 2) it's always been made clear that the story has priority over the rules; 3) many of the times he's accused of breaking the rules the actual rule is heavily debated and how it works in the comic is a legitimate interpretation of the written rule; or 4) the accusation is just wrong.
--> '''Rich Burlew:''' The only thing worse than the usual irrelevant rules pedantry is incorrect irrelevant rules pedantry.
* The authors of ''Webcomic/GoneWithTheBlastwave'' have clearly stated that they're doing the comics for themselves and not the fans, they even went as far as to actively disencourage the fan translations the comic was getting. Though, as of late, it ''seems'' that they are slowly changing their posture with all the attention they're getting.
* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]''.
* Gigi Digi (formerly Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}) was not particularly pleased to find out that there was a Kickstarter launched for an unauthorized FanSequel of one of her works. She's also vented that she's been tired of her past comics for a long time and particularly annoyed by the memes that have spawned from them.
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* It's been obvious on the ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' forums that Rich Burlew has become thoroughly sick of people questioning whether something that happened is in the comic is within the rules of ''Dungeons & Dragons''. It's a bit hard to blame him for this as 1) this has been happening for years; 2) it's always been made clear that the story has priority over the rules; 3) many of the times he's accused of breaking the rules the actual rule is heavily debated and how it works in the comic is a legitimate interpretation of the written rule; or 4) the accusation is just wrong.
--> '''Rich Burlew:''' The only thing worse than the usual irrelevant rules pedantry is incorrect irrelevant rules pedantry.
* The authors of ''Webcomic/GoneWithTheBlastwave'' have clearly stated that they're doing the comics for themselves and not the fans, they even went as far as to actively disencourage the fan translations the comic was getting. Though, as of late, it ''seems'' that they are slowly changing their posture with all the attention they're getting.
* Part of the reason why Ian J. quit ''Webcomic/RPGWorld''. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..''[[CutShort when it was in its final arc]]''.
* Gigi Digi (formerly Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}) was not particularly pleased to find out that there was a Kickstarter launched for an unauthorized FanSequel of one of her works. She's also vented that she's been tired of her past comics for a long time and particularly annoyed by the memes that have spawned from them.
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Fillmore}}'' deals with two mega-fans of a book series called ''Vampirita'' trying to win a fan contest to become characters in the latest installment. [[spoiler: The latest book in the series is so bad that it drives one of the girls to sabotage all their efforts to keep them from being immortalized in a lousy book.]] The author is shown to be jaded and dismissive of her fans, only still involved with the series due to contractual obligation. Her fans call her out on this attitude, citing that she at least should respect them enough to provide them with a coherent, satisfying story.


* ''WebAnimation/BonusStage'' creator Matt Wilson ended the cartoon one "season" earlier than he originally intended, citing at first his desire to make money from his animations, then changing his mind and saying that he just got sick of [[TwoGamersOnACouch making video-game references]] and the cartoon's trademark [[NoFourthWall self-deprecatory humor]]. After pitching some ideas for a new series of his, Wilson seems to have cut off connection with the internet. He is currently working on ''WebAnimation/{{Pencilmation}}'' as a director.



* ''WebAnimation/BonusStage'' creator Matt Wilson ended the cartoon one "season" earlier than he originally intended, citing at first his desire to make money from his animations, then changing his mind and saying that he just got sick of [[TwoGamersOnACouch making video-game references]] and the cartoon's trademark [[NoFourthWall self-deprecatory humor]]. After pitching some ideas for a new series of his, Wilson seems to have cut off connection with the internet. He is currently working on ''WebAnimation/{{Pencilmation}}'' as a director.


* Music/TheBeatles famously dealt with this - they stopped touring in 1966 due to several factors, most of which can be traced to disillusionment with touring (due to issues from protests about the famous "BiggerThanJesus" comment to being unable to hear themselves play at venues).
** Music/GeorgeHarrison in particular suffered a serious case of this when it came to the Beatles, having publicly acknowledged on numerous occasions that the allure had worn well off for him by about 1965 or thereabouts. The fact that Music/JohnLennon and Music/PaulMcCartney were for the most part rather dismissive of his own songwriting efforts and tended to treat him as the baby of the group because he was the youngest didn't help matters much.

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* Music/TheBeatles famously dealt with this - they this. They stopped touring in 1966 due to several factors, most of which can be traced to disillusionment with touring (due to issues from protests about the famous "BiggerThanJesus" comment to being unable to hear themselves play at venues).
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venues). Music/GeorgeHarrison in particular suffered a serious case of this when it came to the Beatles, having publicly acknowledged on numerous occasions that the allure had worn well off for him by about 1965 or thereabouts. The fact that Music/JohnLennon and Music/PaulMcCartney were for the most part rather dismissive of his own songwriting efforts and tended to treat him as the baby of the group because he was the youngest didn't help matters much.



* Phil Fish of ''VideoGame/{{FEZ}}'' fame quit the games industry a short way into development of "Fez II", as a result years of rage and insults being hurled at him, with Marcus Beer's remarks being the final straw. It should be noted that certain developers and journalists who saw first-hand what he was put through by the gaming community tend to be amazed he held on as long as he did.
** Phil Fish is an interesting case of this. He was very vocal about slinging vitriol and seemed to almost encourage it coming his way, seeming to feed off the trolls. At some point, though, it seemed to hit a tipping point, and he lost all interest in dealing with the drama. Unfortunately, one can't just turn the internet off like that, and it never stopped coming in, leading to overload and total disillusionment.

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* Phil Fish of ''VideoGame/{{FEZ}}'' fame quit the games industry a short way into development of "Fez II", as a result years of rage and insults being hurled at him, with Marcus Beer's remarks being the final straw. It should be noted that certain developers and journalists who saw first-hand what he was put through by the gaming community tend to be amazed he held on as long as he did.
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did. Phil Fish is an interesting case of this. He was very vocal about slinging vitriol and seemed to almost encourage it coming his way, seeming to feed off the trolls. At some point, though, it seemed to hit a tipping point, and he lost all interest in dealing with the drama. Unfortunately, one can't just turn the internet off like that, and it never stopped coming in, leading to overload and total disillusionment.



* The "Hollywood Diva" archetype is a strange example. They're expected to be nasty to the press and condescending to their fans - in fact, most of them retain their following ''due to'' their negative attitude, not ''in spite'' of it. After all, when did ''E!'' ever do a special on "The Top 100 Genuinely Nice Actresses in Hollywood"? Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea...

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* The "Hollywood Diva" archetype is a strange example. They're expected to be nasty to the press and condescending to their fans - -- in fact, most of them retain their following ''due to'' their negative attitude, not ''in spite'' of it. After all, when did ''E!'' ever do a special on "The Top 100 Genuinely Nice Actresses in Hollywood"? Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea...Hollywood"?



* Spider Jerusalem, of ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'', has something of a hate/loathe/disgust/contempt/pity complex regarding his fans. They read his journalism (which is good enough to be art, by any means) and find his exploits entertaining, and occasionally they listen to him if he shouts loud enough. On the other hand, they don't care enough, they don't get the message, and generally let him down. The volume New Scum ends with him chucking grenades off a roof because, despite his column, [[spoiler: the public finally followed his advice and booted out the Beast, but elected a president Jerusalem found even more loathsome.]]

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* Spider Jerusalem, of ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'', has something of a hate/loathe/disgust/contempt/pity complex regarding his fans. They read his journalism (which is good enough to be art, by any means) and find his exploits entertaining, and occasionally they listen to him if he shouts loud enough. On the other hand, they don't care enough, they don't get the message, and generally let him down. The volume "The New Scum Scum" ends with him chucking grenades off a roof because, despite his column, [[spoiler: the public finally followed his advice and booted out the Beast, corrupt president "the Beast," but elected a president that Jerusalem found even more loathsome.]]



* Appin Dungannon from ''Literature/BimbosOfTheDeathSun''. Though definitely an AssholeVictim, the novel does reflect on how Dungannon's anger comes from [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten his inability to escape the series of pulpy,]] ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''-esque novels that made him famous and be recognized as a serious writer who [[ShownTheirWork put a lot of effort into some parts]], such as the mythology. It also crosses over with CreatorBacklash, as at one point he compares himself to [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Jacob Marley]], forever chained to a series of cheesy fantasy novels. Of course, the guy '''is''' an egotistical JerkAss regardless of the motivation, but it [[JerkassWoobie keeps him from being 100% unsympathetic]].
** Dungannon has quite a bit in common with Creator/HarlanEllison (see above), to the point where fans believed that author Sharyn [=McCrumb=] wrote him as a TakeThat; seemingly in order to defuse these accusations, she included a part where someone suggests getting Ellison to write Dungannon's eulogy (and it's noted that the two men despised each other). Amusingly, in the forward for a later edition of the ''Bimbos'', [=McCrumb=] noted that she always knew which authors were "on the outs" with the fandom because people would ask her "Was (this guy) the inspiration for Dungannon?".

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* Appin Dungannon from ''Literature/BimbosOfTheDeathSun''. Though definitely an AssholeVictim, the novel does reflect on how Dungannon's anger comes from [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten his inability to escape the series of pulpy,]] ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''-esque novels that made him famous and be recognized as a serious writer who [[ShownTheirWork put a lot of effort into some parts]], such as the mythology. It also crosses over with CreatorBacklash, as at one point he compares himself to [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Jacob Marley]], forever chained to a series of cheesy fantasy novels. Of course, the guy '''is''' an egotistical JerkAss regardless of the motivation, but it [[JerkassWoobie keeps him from being 100% unsympathetic]].
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unsympathetic]]. Dungannon has quite a bit in common with Creator/HarlanEllison (see above), Creator/HarlanEllison, to the point where fans believed that author Sharyn [=McCrumb=] wrote him as a TakeThat; seemingly in order to defuse these accusations, she included a part where someone suggests getting Ellison to write Dungannon's eulogy (and it's noted that the two men despised each other). Amusingly, in the forward for a later edition of the ''Bimbos'', [=McCrumb=] noted that she always knew which authors were "on the outs" with the fandom because people would ask her "Was (this guy) the inspiration for Dungannon?".


* In the ''Anime/LittleWitchAcademia'' series, the author of the ''[[Literature/{{Twilight}} Nightfall]]'' book series is revealed to be a LegacyCharacter, with the most recent one wishing to pass on the role due to being a target of internet trolls. Lotte (the one who she tries to pass the role on) convinces her instead that for all the people who insult and mock her, there are many more who love her writing and genuinely appreciate her, which leads to her continuing the role.

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* In the ''Anime/LittleWitchAcademia'' ''Anime/LittleWitchAcademia2017'' series, the author of the ''[[Literature/{{Twilight}} Nightfall]]'' book series is revealed to be a LegacyCharacter, with the most recent one wishing to pass on the role due to being a target of internet trolls. Lotte (the one who she tries to pass the role on) convinces her instead that for all the people who insult and mock her, there are many more who love her writing and genuinely appreciate her, which leads to her continuing the role.

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