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* The Zeboim Civilisation in ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'', which has a similar role to the Zeal Kingdom of Chrono Trigger.

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* The Zeboim Civilisation in ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'', which has a similar role to the Zeal Kingdom of Chrono Trigger.Trigger, similarly, it is revealed that [[spoiler:humanity did not originate on the planet on which Xenogears takes place, and is only there because Deus crashlanded a ship on it]]

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* ''VideoGame/SentinelDescendantsInTime'' has the Tastans, whos tombs have holographic [=AI=]s guarding them, and recreations of places the deceased was most attached to in life.


* "VideoGame/PokemonRejuvenation" has the Garufa, an ancient tribe from hundreds if not thousands of years before the game is set. They had powerful magic but didn't use Pokemon (though they were symbolised by Solrock and Lunatone). While the tribe doesn't exist anymore, there are a few characters who are descended from the Garufa, and others who try to use their magic, with varying degrees of success.

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* "VideoGame/PokemonRejuvenation" VideoGame/PokemonRejuvenation has the Garufa, an ancient tribe from hundreds if not thousands of years before the game is set. They had powerful magic but didn't use Pokemon (though they were symbolised by Solrock and Lunatone). While the tribe doesn't exist anymore, there are a few characters who are descended from the Garufa, and others who try to use their magic, with varying degrees of success.

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* "VideoGame/PokemonRejuvenation" has the Garufa, an ancient tribe from hundreds if not thousands of years before the game is set. They had powerful magic but didn't use Pokemon (though they were symbolised by Solrock and Lunatone). While the tribe doesn't exist anymore, there are a few characters who are descended from the Garufa, and others who try to use their magic, with varying degrees of success.

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* ''[[Series/WonderWoman1975 Wonder Woman]]'': In "Fausta, the Nazi Wonder Woman", Wonder Woman tells us that the Amazons of Paradise Island have "existed in peace and happiness for twenty-six centuries", thus predating the Roman Empire. They have guns, invisible planes, telepathy, and each Amazon has SuperStrength.


* If one defines "human" broadly [[spoiler:(as in, "the genus Homo", because they show up in our fossil record as ''Homo habilis''),]] then [[spoiler:the Pak]], in Creator/LarryNiven's Literature/{{Ringworld}} and its sequels, certainly count. They built the eponymous BigDumbObject with energy-matter conversion technology, collected species from throughout the Milky Way and preserved them on the Ringworld, and built a star-spanning empire ''without'' hyperdrive. Their technological achievements actually frightened the Pierson's Puppeteers, a race that turned their ''home planets'' into spaceships (admittedly, scaring [[DirtyCoward Puppeteers]] is easier than it should be).

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* If one defines "human" broadly [[spoiler:(as in, "the genus Homo", because they show up in our fossil record as ''Homo habilis''),]] then [[spoiler:the Pak]], in Creator/LarryNiven's Literature/{{Ringworld}} Creator/AndreiLivadny's novel ''Ark'' heavily implies that the planet that the titular Moon-sized starship (it ''is'' the actual Moon, hollowed-out and its sequels, certainly count. They built the eponymous BigDumbObject rigged with energy-matter conversion technology, collected species from throughout engines) crash-lands on is Earth in distant past, especially since the Milky Way first person out of the ship is a shepherd named Noah. Oh, and preserved them on the Ringworld, and built crash happens to have emptied (or ''parted'', perhaps) a star-spanning empire ''without'' hyperdrive. Their sea. Apparently, the giant ship has somehow traveled back in time. The author obviously ignores the consequences of a Moon-sized object hitting Earth (not to mention a giant spherical mountain that we have somehow missed).
* The ''Literature/BookOfSwords'' fantasy series touches upon an "Old World" which was
technological achievements actually frightened the Pierson's Puppeteers, a race that turned their ''home planets'' into spaceships (admittedly, scaring [[DirtyCoward Puppeteers]] is easier rather than it should be).magical. The "modern" humans in the story don't even begin to understand it.
* In ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'' by Creator/DavidWeber, ''the Moon'' turns out to be a giant ancient human starship, and all humans on Earth are the descendants of its crew.



* In ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'' by Creator/DavidWeber, ''the Moon'' turns out to be a giant ancient human starship, and all humans on Earth are the descendants of its crew.
* The ''Literature/BookOfSwords'' fantasy series touches upon an "Old World" which was technological rather than magical. The "modern" humans in the story don't even begin to understand it.
* Similarly, the ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'' series offers occasional glimpses of a technological era that preceded the current magical one. Antrax, the BigBad of the eponymous book in ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheJerleShannara'', is a [[AIIsACrapshoot malevolent]] [[MasterComputer supercomputer]] that survived the end of said era, designed to guard its knowledge.

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* In ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'' by Creator/DavidWeber, ''the Moon'' turns out to be a giant ancient human starship, and all humans on Earth are the descendants of its crew.
* The ''Literature/BookOfSwords'' fantasy series touches upon an "Old World" which was technological rather than magical. The "modern" humans in ''Literature/GiantsSeries'' of novels by James P. Hogan revolve around the story don't even begin to understand it.
* Similarly, the ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'' series offers occasional glimpses of a technological era
discovery that preceded ''Homo sapiens'' actually evolved on the current magical one. Antrax, the BigBad of the eponymous book in ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheJerleShannara'', is a [[AIIsACrapshoot malevolent]] [[MasterComputer supercomputer]] that survived the end of said era, designed to guard its knowledge. now-destroyed planet Minerva between Mars and Jupiter, where they developed an advanced civilization over forty thousand years ago.



* In ''Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'', humans are the descendants of the Golgafrinchans. They sent the most ''useless third'' of their population (phone sanitizers etc.) to crash land on Earth. [[spoiler:The entire remaining population was then wiped out by a plague contracted from a dirty telephone.]]
* ''Literature/KnownSpace'': If one defines "human" broadly [[spoiler:(as in, "the genus Homo", because they show up in our fossil record as ''Homo habilis''),]] then [[spoiler:the Pak]], in ''Literature/{{Ringworld}}'' and its sequels, certainly count. They built the eponymous BigDumbObject with energy-matter conversion technology, collected species from throughout the Milky Way and preserved them on the Ringworld, and built a star-spanning empire ''without'' hyperdrive. Their technological achievements actually frightened the Pierson's Puppeteers, a race that turned their ''home planets'' into spaceships (admittedly, scaring [[DirtyCoward Puppeteers]] is easier than it should be).
* In the ''Literature/{{Noob}}'' novels, the Order's backstory makes the inhabitants of Syrial this. When their capital first appears, the royal palace turns out to have an elevator and part of the story takes place on a flying palace, both of which are implied to be some kind of {{Magitek}}. Nothing surprising so far except that the Empire, another faction, found ImportedAlienPhlebotinum and developed its own technology... centuries if not millennia after Syrial got frozen in time, {{Unperson}}ed and surrounded by a PerpetualStorm that made it inaccessible to humans by the world's gods. Syrial gets introduced while it's "thawing" from its time freeze and the storm is calming down, which lasted several more millennia after the Empire's discovery of technology. The fact that the Syriallians managed to make something that the Empire and the Coalition considered a threat (the aforementioned flying palace was meant to bombard their home bases with powerful explosives) is hence quite remarkable, despite how much their king worried about his people having become obsolete.



* Creator/AndreNorton's ''Operation Time Search''. The fabled civilizations of Mu, Atlantis and others really existed and had highly advanced {{magitek}}. In the original timeline they were all destroyed as a result of the evil actions of Atlantis, but the intervention of an accidental time traveler changed history so they still existed in the present.
* The ''Literature/{{Paratime}}'' Police assign timelines to 'Levels' based on whether or not the people in them remember their race came originally from Mars.



* A somewhat weird example: In Creator/TerryPratchett's early sci-fi novel ''Literature/{{Strata}}'', a human explorer ends up on an obviously artificial disc-shaped 'Earth' inhabited by medieval humans (and stuff like demons, djinni and dragons). She ends up launching a project to transfer the disc's inhabitants from their failing world to a newly-built planet, which is very strongly implied to be ''our'' Earth. It gets weirder, though, with the second part of the TwistEnding: The entire ''universe'' turns out to be artificial, made by the same {{Sufficiently Advanced Alien}}s that produced the disc...who then colonized it, voluntarily forgetting about their origins to become ordinary flesh-and-blood 'natives'. So basically, humanity ends up being its own precursor twice over.
* The ''Literature/GiantsSeries'' of novels by James P. Hogan revolve around the discovery that Homo Sapiens actually evolved on the now-destroyed planet Minerva between Mars and Jupiter, where they developed an advanced civilization over forty thousand years ago.
* Creator/DeanKoontz's ''Twilight Eyes''. At some point in the distant past humanity had a highly developed civilization, including genetic engineering. They created a race of evil shapeshifters that [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters went out of control and destroyed civilization]] so thoroughly that modern humans can't find any trace of it.
* Creator/AndreNorton's ''Operation Time Search''. The fabled civilizations of Mu, Atlantis and others really existed and had highly advanced {{magitek}}. In the original timeline they were all destroyed as a result of the evil actions of Atlantis, but the intervention of an accidental time traveler changed history so they still existed in the present.
* In ''Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'', humans are the descendants of the Golgafrinchans. They sent the most ''useless third'' of their population (phone sanitizers etc.) to crash land on Earth. [[spoiler:The entire remaining population was then wiped out by a plague contracted from a dirty telephone.]]
* Creator/AndreiLivadny's novel ''Ark'' heavily implies that the planet that the titular Moon-sized starship (it ''is'' the actual Moon, hollowed-out and rigged with engines) crash-lands on is Earth in distant past, especially since the first person out of the ship is a shepherd named Noah. Oh, and the crash happens to have emptied (or ''parted'', perhaps) a sea. Apparently, the giant ship has somehow traveled back in time. The author obviously ignores the consequences of a Moon-sized object hitting Earth (not to mention a giant spherical mountain that we have somehow missed).
* In the ''Literature/{{Noob}}'' novels, the Order's backstory makes the inhabitants of Syrial this. When their capital first appears, the royal palace turns out to have an elevator and part of the story takes place on a flying palace, both of which are implied to be some kind of {{Magitek}}. Nothing surprising so far except that the Empire, another faction, found ImportedAlienPhlebotinum and developed its own technology... centuries if not millennia after Syrial got frozen in time, {{Unperson}}ed and surrounded by a PerpetualStorm that made it inaccessible to humans by the world's gods. Syrial gets introduced while it's "thawing" from its time freeze and the storm is calming down, which lasted several more millennia after the Empire's discovery of technology. The fact that the Syriallians managed to make something that the Empire and the Coalition considered a threat (the aforementioned flying palace was meant to bombard their home bases with powerful explosives) is hence quite remarkable, despite how much their king worried about his people having become obsolete.
* The Literature/{{Paratime}} Police assign timelines to 'Levels' based on whether or not the people in them remember their race came originally from Mars.



* Similarly, the ''Literature/{{Shannara}}'' series offers occasional glimpses of a technological era that preceded the current magical one. Antrax, the BigBad of the eponymous book in ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheJerleShannara'', is a [[AIIsACrapshoot malevolent]] [[MasterComputer supercomputer]] that survived the end of said era, designed to guard its knowledge.
* A somewhat weird example: In Creator/TerryPratchett's early sci-fi novel ''Literature/{{Strata}}'', a human explorer ends up on an obviously artificial disc-shaped 'Earth' inhabited by medieval humans (and stuff like demons, djinni and dragons). She ends up launching a project to transfer the disc's inhabitants from their failing world to a newly-built planet, which is very strongly implied to be ''our'' Earth. It gets weirder, though, with the second part of the TwistEnding: The entire ''universe'' turns out to be artificial, made by the same {{Sufficiently Advanced Alien}}s that produced the disc... who then colonized it, voluntarily forgetting about their origins to become ordinary flesh-and-blood 'natives'. So basically, humanity ends up being its own precursor twice over.
* Creator/DeanKoontz's ''Twilight Eyes''. At some point in the distant past humanity had a highly developed civilization, including genetic engineering. They created a race of evil shapeshifters that [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters went out of control and destroyed civilization]] so thoroughly that modern humans can't find any trace of it.



* ''Series/AncientAliens'' theorizes that various ancient human cultures such as the Egyptians had higher technology based on or given by AncientAstronauts. The ancient Bolivian city of Pumapunku, for example, is claimed to have been built 17,000 years ago with diamond-studded tools that didn't exist until the 20th century, though this is more of a case of the documentary's frequent number skewing and distortion of the facts; the actual city is less than 3,000 years old and is built with soft stones that the basic metal tools of the time could chisel.



* In ''Series/StargateSG1'' the [[{{Precursors}} Ancients]] turned out to be human, albeit originally from a different galaxy and who manipulated evolution on earth to produce the current Milky Way humans. The Ancients are biologically indistinguishable from modern humans, but technologically? ''They built the stargate network.'' And that's not even scratching the surface.



* Subverted by ''Series/{{Fringe}}'', which built the mysterious "First People" into its mythology starting in the second season and really taking off in the third... only to reveal that the "First People" were actually [[spoiler:the main characters who sent technology back in time for their past selves to find in order to heal the damage done to the universe by technology run amok]]...or something like that. It was never explained just ''why'' they had to invent a whole ancient hieroglyph aesthetic for the world-saving machine, unless they actually ''wanted'' to convince people that they were some kind of ancient civilization of humans that evolved billions of years before the dinosaurs (stretching scientific credibility so thin you can see through it).
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'', episode "Probe 7 - Over And Out": Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].

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* Subverted by ''Series/{{Fringe}}'', which built the mysterious "First People" into its mythology starting in the second season and really taking off in the third... only to reveal that the "First People" were actually [[spoiler:the main characters who sent technology back in time for their past selves to find in order to heal the damage done to the universe by technology run amok]]...amok]] or something like that. It was never explained just ''why'' they had to invent a whole ancient hieroglyph aesthetic for the world-saving machine, unless they actually ''wanted'' to convince people that they were some kind of ancient civilization of humans that evolved billions of years before the dinosaurs (stretching scientific credibility so thin you can see through it).
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'', episode "Probe 7 - Over And Out": Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].
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* ''Series/AncientAliens'' theorizes that various ancient human cultures such as the Egyptians had higher technology based on or given by AncientAstronauts. The ancient Bolivian city of Pumapunku, for example, is claimed to have been built 17,000 years ago with diamond-studded tools that didn't exist until the 20th century, though this is more of a case of the documentary's frequent number skewing and distortion of the facts; the actual city is less than 3,000 years old and is built with soft stones that the basic metal tools of the time could chisel.

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* ''Series/AncientAliens'' theorizes that various ancient human cultures such as In ''Series/StargateSG1'' the Egyptians had higher technology based [[{{Precursors}} Ancients]] turned out to be human, albeit originally from a different galaxy and who manipulated evolution on or given by AncientAstronauts. earth to produce the current Milky Way humans. The ancient Bolivian city of Pumapunku, for example, is claimed to have been Ancients are biologically indistinguishable from modern humans, but technologically? ''They built 17,000 years ago with diamond-studded tools that didn't exist until the 20th century, though this is more of a case of stargate network.'' And that's not even scratching the documentary's frequent number skewing surface.
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'', episode "Probe 7 - Over And Out": Cook has a spaceship
and distortion of the facts; the actual city is less than 3,000 years old Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and is built with soft stones that the basic metal tools of the time could chisel.Eve]].



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* A frequent theme in Theosophy and related authors like Edgar Cayce, Drunvallo Melchizedek and Julius Evola. According to them, modern humanity had not only one, but [[UpToEleven 6 more advanced precursor civilisations]] who all destroyed themselves. (Some of them were reptilian and energy beings. Some others had Dinosaurs as pets.) Theosophy provided the inspiration for this trope in many science fiction stories.
* The Indus Valley has a much higher background radiation field than the rest of Asia. Myth/HinduMythology contains references to aircraft (Vimaans), tanks (Juggernauts), and city-breaking superweapons (Brahmastras), leading some historians to hypothesize that it's actually a FutureImperfect retelling of a nuclear war. There is no archeological evidence of this so far, though.
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* A frequent theme in Theosophy and related authors like Edgar Cayce, Drunvallo Melchizedek and Julius Evola. According to them, modern humanity had not only one, but [[UpToEleven 6 more advanced precursor civilisations]] who all destroyed themselves. (Some of them were reptilian and energy beings. Some others had Dinosaurs as pets.) Theosophy provided the inspiration for this trope in many science fiction stories.
* The Indus Valley has a much higher background radiation field than the rest of Asia. Myth/HinduMythology contains references to aircraft (Vimaans), tanks (Juggernauts), and city-breaking superweapons (Brahmastras), leading some historians to hypothesize that it's actually a FutureImperfect retelling of a nuclear war. There is no archeological evidence of this so far, though.
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* While there's no evidence of any civilizations with current day levels of technology, there were quite a few who were advanced compared to what followed, particularly since until a certain point, even the largest societies were at risk of being wiped out by a natural disaster. The Minoans of Santorini, considered a likely inspiration for the legend of Atlantis, are a prime example. They were quite advanced for 4000 years ago,[[note]]Their capital Akrotiri had paved roads, a sewer system and multi-story buildings, and they produced especially high-quality pottery.[[/note]] but unfortunately the wonderfully fertile island on which they built their civilization was ''the crater of a supervolcano''. Around 1600 BC, the city center was completely obliterated by one of the largest eruptions in human history, and the rest of the island was buried under the volcanic ash.

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* While there's no evidence of any civilizations with current day levels of technology, technology [[note]]Pyramids of Giza obviously not withstanding due to the sheer size and accuracy of this engineering marvel - a feat we couldn't hope to replicate until fairly recently with the invention of laser rangefinders and diamond cutting discs[[/note]], there were quite a few who were advanced compared to what followed, particularly since until a certain point, even the largest societies were at risk of being wiped out by a natural disaster. The Minoans of Santorini, considered a likely inspiration for the legend of Atlantis, are a prime example. They were quite advanced for 4000 years ago,[[note]]Their capital Akrotiri had paved roads, a sewer system and multi-story buildings, and they produced especially high-quality pottery.[[/note]] but unfortunately the wonderfully fertile island on which they built their civilization was ''the crater of a supervolcano''. Around 1600 BC, the city center was completely obliterated by one of the largest eruptions in human history, and the rest of the island was buried under the volcanic ash.


* The Zeboim Civilisation in ''Xenogears'', which has a similar role to the Zeal Kingdom of Chrono Trigger.

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* The Zeboim Civilisation in ''Xenogears'', ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}'', which has a similar role to the Zeal Kingdom of Chrono Trigger.


* A frequent theme in Theosophy and related authors like Edgar Cayce, Drunvallo Melchizedek and Julius Evola. According to them, modern humanity had not only one, but [[UpToEleven 6 more advanced precursor civilisations]] who all destroyed themselves. ([[CrazyAwesome Some of them were reptilian and energy beings. Some others had Dinosaurs as pets.]]) Theosophy provided the inspiration for this trope in many science fiction stories.

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* A frequent theme in Theosophy and related authors like Edgar Cayce, Drunvallo Melchizedek and Julius Evola. According to them, modern humanity had not only one, but [[UpToEleven 6 more advanced precursor civilisations]] who all destroyed themselves. ([[CrazyAwesome Some (Some of them were reptilian and energy beings. Some others had Dinosaurs as pets.]]) ) Theosophy provided the inspiration for this trope in many science fiction stories.


* The Antikythera Mechanism (named after the Greek shipwreck it was found in) was a geared device discovered underwater, dating to around the 1st century BCE. Designed for predicting the positions of various celestial bodies, the level of craftsmanship and complexity it exhibits is far greater than anything else recovered from that time period. It was, in fact, the first known [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer analog computer]]. Though its origin is still a mystery, it is thought to be perhaps one of Archimedes' inventions, possibly used by Hipparchos, an early Greek astronomer.

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* The Antikythera Mechanism (named after the Greek shipwreck it was found in) was a geared device discovered underwater, dating to around the 1st century BCE. Designed for predicting the positions of various celestial bodies, the level of craftsmanship and complexity it exhibits is far greater than anything else recovered from that time period. It was, in fact, the first known [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer analog computer]]. computer.]] Though its origin is still a mystery, it is thought to be perhaps one of Archimedes' inventions, possibly used by Hipparchos, an early Greek astronomer.


* ''Series/{{Space 1999}}'': The episode "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Testament_of_Arkadia The Testament of Arkadia]]" has the crew of Moonbase Alpha discover that Earth was settled from another planet 25,000 years ago.

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* ''Series/{{Space 1999}}'': The episode "[[http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Testament_of_Arkadia The "The Testament of Arkadia]]" Arkadia"]] has the crew of Moonbase Alpha discover that Earth was settled from another planet 25,000 years ago.


* In ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'': The ancestors of the colonial humans were more advanced than the main characters thought, having built Cylons on Kobol before branching out into the colonies. In the finale it's revealed that [[spoiler:the whole show has been set many thousands of years in the past, meaning their advanced society predates ours.]]

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* In ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'': The ancestors of the colonial humans were more advanced than the main characters thought, having built Cylons on Kobol before branching out into the colonies. In the finale it's revealed that [[spoiler:the whole show has been set many thousands of nearly 150,000 years in the past, ago, meaning their advanced society predates ours.]]


* In the ''Franchise/StarOcean'' series, an Earthling civilization had a hyper-advanced society on the lost continent of Mu in the Pacific Ocean.[[note]]The existence of a lost continent of that name and location, essentially the Pacific's equivalent of Atlantis, is a real belief.[[/note]] The continent was destroyed in a meteor impact, which somehow teleported the some of the inhabitants to other planets.

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* In the ''Franchise/StarOcean'' ''VideoGame/StarOcean'' series, an Earthling civilization had a hyper-advanced society on the lost continent of Mu in the Pacific Ocean.[[note]]The existence of a lost continent of that name and location, essentially the Pacific's equivalent of Atlantis, is a real belief.[[/note]] The continent was destroyed in a meteor impact, which somehow teleported the some of the inhabitants to other planets.


* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'', episode "Probe 7 - Over And Out": Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'', ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'', episode "Probe 7 - Over And Out": Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].

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