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** River of Death = Chickamaugua (Allegedly a Cherokee word meaning "Bloody River)
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** Hesmucet is Wiliam ''Tecumseh'' Sherman.
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** Hesmucet [[SdrawkcabName Hesmucet]] is Wiliam ''Tecumseh'' Sherman.
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** Peachtree Province = Georgia
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** Peachtree Province = Georgia
** Cloviston Province = Kentucky (named after Louisville; Clovis is the root of the name Louis)
** Croatoan Province = North Carolina, named after a historical Native American tribe
** Palmetto Province = South Carolina, the Palmetto State
** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Franklin Franklin]] = Tennessee
** Parthenia and East Parthenia = Virginia and West Virginia ([[BilingualBonus "parthenos" is "virgin" in Greek]])
** [[Music/PeterPaulAndMary Peterpaulandia]] Province = Maryland
** Cloviston Province = Kentucky (named after Louisville; Clovis is the root of the name Louis)
** Croatoan Province = North Carolina, named after a historical Native American tribe
** Palmetto Province = South Carolina, the Palmetto State
** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Franklin Franklin]] = Tennessee
** Parthenia and East Parthenia = Virginia and West Virginia ([[BilingualBonus "parthenos" is "virgin" in Greek]])
** [[Music/PeterPaulAndMary Peterpaulandia]] Province = Maryland
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** The capital of the Russia equivalent is Pazhbull.[[note]]Ma's cow (Moscow), Pa's bull.[[/note]]
** The gods of Detina live on Mount Panamgam, the equivalent to Mount Olympus.[[note]]Pan American Games = Olympics.[[/note]]
** The gods of Detina live on Mount Panamgam, the equivalent to Mount Olympus.[[note]]Pan American Games = Olympics.[[/note]]
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* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Some claim that the it could have been told equally well as a straight retelling of the Western campaign, as with his historical fiction ''Fort Pillow''.
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* RecycledInSpace: The American Civil War retold in Middle Earth. With crossbows, swords, unicorns and Dragons!
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* RecycledInSpace: The American Civil War retold in Middle Earth. With crossbows, swords, unicorns and Dragons!dragons!
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* StealthPun: Many.
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* StealthPun: Many.Many:
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Detina is a monarchial version of the United States. only backward. The South is the industrial center, the North is the agricultural heartland, and serfs replace slaves. Also, the colors are backwards, as the South is grey, but is for a united Detina, while the North is blue, but for a split kingdom. Also, the action takes place in the Eastern Theater for them. Also railways are glideways, for low-level flying carpets on set paths, and finally, crystal balls are their telegraphs. Got all that?
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Detina is a monarchial version of the United States. States, only backward.upside down. The South is the industrial center, the North is the agricultural heartland, and serfs replace slaves. Also, the colors are backwards, reversed, as the South is grey, Southrons are in grey uniforms, but is for a united Detina, while the North is blue, but for a split kingdom. Also, the action takes place in the Eastern Theater for them. Also railways are glideways, for low-level flying carpets on set paths, and finally, crystal balls are their telegraphs. Got all that?
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** The counterpart of the real life General Rosecrans is General Guildenstern, as a nod to ''RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead''.
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** The counterpart of the real life General Rosecrans is General Guildenstern, as a nod to ''RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead''.''Theatre/RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead''.
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** [[SalmaHayek Hayek]] = Selma, Alabama
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** [[SalmaHayek [[Creator/SalmaHayek Hayek]] = Selma, Alabama
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** Leonidas the Priest is Leonidas Polk, and he comes to the same end as well.
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** Leonidas the Priest is Leonidas Polk, the Fighting Bishop, and he comes to the same end as well.
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The ''War Between the Provinces'' is one of the many {{Fantasy}}[=/=]AlternateHistory stories of HarryTurtledove. In a {{Fantasy}} version of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, he turns the war upside down, left to right, and every which way. To summarize, the Kingdom of Detina is engaged in a civil war. The recent ascension of King Avram to the throne has split the North from the South after the king announces he intends to free the blonde serfs from their bondage to the land. His cousin Geoffery splits apart the Kingdom and leads the North to keep the serfs and preserve how they live. The Southron armies in gray march to reunify the Kingdom, while the Northron Armies in blue prepare to defend their new country. The three books in the series focus mainly on an altered version of the Western Theater of the real [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar American Civil War]], only with his twisted version of events and characters.
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The ''War Between the Provinces'' is one of the many {{Fantasy}}[=/=]AlternateHistory stories of HarryTurtledove.Creator/HarryTurtledove. In a {{Fantasy}} version of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, he turns the war upside down, left to right, and every which way. To summarize, the Kingdom of Detina is engaged in a civil war. The recent ascension of King Avram to the throne has split the North from the South after the king announces he intends to free the blonde serfs from their bondage to the land. His cousin Geoffery splits apart the Kingdom and leads the North to keep the serfs and preserve how they live. The Southron armies in gray march to reunify the Kingdom, while the Northron Armies in blue prepare to defend their new country. The three books in the series focus mainly on an altered version of the Western Theater of the real [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar American Civil War]], only with his twisted version of events and characters.
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The ''War Between the Provinces'' is one of the many {{Fantasy}}[=/=]AlternateHistory stories of HarryTurtledove. In a {{Fantasy}} version of the AmericanCivilWar, he turns the war upside down, left to right, and every which way. To summarize, the Kingdom of Detina is engaged in a civil war. The recent ascension of King Avram to the throne has split the North from the South after the king announces he intends to free the blonde serfs from their bondage to the land. His cousin Geoffery splits apart the Kingdom and leads the North to keep the serfs and preserve how they live. The Southron armies in gray march to reunify the Kingdom, while the Northron Armies in blue prepare to defend their new country. The three books in the series focus mainly on an altered version of the Western Theater of the real AmericanCivilWar, only with his twisted version of events and characters.
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The ''War Between the Provinces'' is one of the many {{Fantasy}}[=/=]AlternateHistory stories of HarryTurtledove. In a {{Fantasy}} version of the AmericanCivilWar, UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, he turns the war upside down, left to right, and every which way. To summarize, the Kingdom of Detina is engaged in a civil war. The recent ascension of King Avram to the throne has split the North from the South after the king announces he intends to free the blonde serfs from their bondage to the land. His cousin Geoffery splits apart the Kingdom and leads the North to keep the serfs and preserve how they live. The Southron armies in gray march to reunify the Kingdom, while the Northron Armies in blue prepare to defend their new country. The three books in the series focus mainly on an altered version of the Western Theater of the real AmericanCivilWar, [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar American Civil War]], only with his twisted version of events and characters.
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* AutomaticCrossbow: The Southrons develop repeating crossbows that are the {{Fantasy}} equivalant of the repeating rifles used towards the end of the AmericanCivilWar. Most of the footsoldiers are regular crossbowmen before being equipped with this.
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* AutomaticCrossbow: The Southrons develop repeating crossbows that are the {{Fantasy}} equivalant of the repeating rifles used towards the end of the AmericanCivilWar.UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. Most of the footsoldiers are regular crossbowmen before being equipped with this.
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** The name of the Kingdom itself. "Detina" backwards is "Anited," which if said out loud sounds an awful lot like the word "United."
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** Fighting Joseph is Joseph Hooker.
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** Fighting Joseph is Joseph Hooker.Hooker (nicknamed ("Fighting Joe").
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* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Some claim that the it could have been told equally well as a straight retelling of the Western campaign, as with his historical fiction ''Fort Pillow''.
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* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Some claim that the it could have been told equally well as a straight retelling of the Western campaign, as with his historical fiction ''Fort Pillow''. Pillow''.
* FantasyConflictCounterpart: UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar in a fantasy setting.
* FantasyConflictCounterpart: UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar in a fantasy setting.
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* IstanbulNotConstantinople: The many places of Detina are parallels to our real world locations. Examples include:
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* IstanbulNotConstantinople: The many places of Detina are parallels to our real world locations. It is in fact possible to follow the story with a real history and map of the Western Theater by simply reversing the directions and recognizing the puns. Examples include:
** Sentry Peak = Lookout Mountain
** [[SalmaHayek Hayek]] = Selma, Alabama
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** Doubting George is a reference to General George H. Thomas, who was known for his cautious yet brilliant strategies during the war.
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** Doubting George is a reference to General George H. Thomas, who was known for his the cautious yet brilliant strategies during the war.General George H. Thomas (nicknamed Doubting Thomas).
** Hesmucet is Wiliam ''Tecumseh'' Sherman.
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** Robert, Duke of Arlington, is Robert E. Lee.
** James, Earl of Broadpath is James Longstreet.
** James, Earl of Broadpath is James Longstreet.
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The ''War Between the Provinces'' is one of the many {{Fantasy}}[=/=]AlternateHistory stories of HarryTurtledove. In a {{Fantasy}} version of the AmericanCivilWar, he turns the war upside down, left to right, and every which way. To summarize, the Kingdom of Detina is engaged in a civil war. The recent ascension of King Avram to the throne has split the North from the South after the king announces he intends to free the blonde serfs from their bondage to the land. His cousin Geoffery splits apart the Kingdom and leads the North to keep the serfs and preserve how they live. The Southron armies in gray march to reunify the Kingdom, while the Northron Armies in blue prepare to defend their new country. The three books in the series focus mainly on an altered version of the Western Theater of the real AmericanCivilWar, only with his twisted version of events and characters.
The series contains the following books:
* ''Sentry Peak''
* ''Marching Through Peachtree''
* ''Advance And Retreat''
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!!These books show examples of:
* AutomaticCrossbow: The Southrons develop repeating crossbows that are the {{Fantasy}} equivalant of the repeating rifles used towards the end of the AmericanCivilWar. Most of the footsoldiers are regular crossbowmen before being equipped with this.
* CoolHorse: Unicorns are the cavalry mounts for the main armies. Those horns on the end aren't just for decoration.
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Some claim that the it could have been told equally well as a straight retelling of the Western campaign, as with his historical fiction ''Fort Pillow''.
* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Detina is a monarchial version of the United States. only backward. The South is the industrial center, the North is the agricultural heartland, and serfs replace slaves. Also, the colors are backwards, as the South is grey, but is for a united Detina, while the North is blue, but for a split kingdom. Also, the action takes place in the Eastern Theater for them. Also railways are glideways, for low-level flying carpets on set paths, and finally, crystal balls are their telegraphs. Got all that?
* IstanbulNotConstantinople: The many places of Detina are parallels to our real world locations. Examples include:
** New Eborac = New York City ([[GeniusBonus Eboracum was the Roman name for York in England]])
** Georgetown = Washington, D.C.
** Nonesuch = Richmond
** River of Death = Chickamaugua
** Peachtree Province = Georgia
** Five Lakes = Great Lakes
* MedievalStasis: Most of the attitudes, culture and technology are heavily based in medieval European cultures. Instead of pants, most of the men wear pantaloons, crossbows are the long range hand weapons, pikemen are still in use, etc.
* RecycledInSpace: The American Civil War retold in Middle Earth. With crossbows, swords, unicorns and Dragons!
* SiegeEngines: Both sides use catapults as the cannon alternative, which can either sling heavy stones or firepots, and ballista like weapons, but with higher rates of fire. Their description implies they may be an analogue to the machine gun, with their ability to fire multiple darts at once.
* StealthPun: Many.
** A King Kermit is mentioned to be a past king of a French like country. Given that a nickname for French people used to be frogs, one can only see the pun arriving.
** Doubting George is a reference to General George H. Thomas, who was known for his cautious yet brilliant strategies during the war.
** Ned of the Forest is Nathan B. Forrest.
** Fighting Joseph is Joseph Hooker.
** Thraxton the Braggart is Braxton Bragg.
** Leonidas the Priest is Leonidas Polk, and he comes to the same end as well.
** ''Advance and Retreat'' is also the name given to General John Bell Hood's own memoirs.
** The counterpart of the real life General Rosecrans is General Guildenstern, as a nod to ''RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead''.
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The series contains the following books:
* ''Sentry Peak''
* ''Marching Through Peachtree''
* ''Advance And Retreat''
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!!These books show examples of:
* AutomaticCrossbow: The Southrons develop repeating crossbows that are the {{Fantasy}} equivalant of the repeating rifles used towards the end of the AmericanCivilWar. Most of the footsoldiers are regular crossbowmen before being equipped with this.
* CoolHorse: Unicorns are the cavalry mounts for the main armies. Those horns on the end aren't just for decoration.
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Some claim that the it could have been told equally well as a straight retelling of the Western campaign, as with his historical fiction ''Fort Pillow''.
* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Detina is a monarchial version of the United States. only backward. The South is the industrial center, the North is the agricultural heartland, and serfs replace slaves. Also, the colors are backwards, as the South is grey, but is for a united Detina, while the North is blue, but for a split kingdom. Also, the action takes place in the Eastern Theater for them. Also railways are glideways, for low-level flying carpets on set paths, and finally, crystal balls are their telegraphs. Got all that?
* IstanbulNotConstantinople: The many places of Detina are parallels to our real world locations. Examples include:
** New Eborac = New York City ([[GeniusBonus Eboracum was the Roman name for York in England]])
** Georgetown = Washington, D.C.
** Nonesuch = Richmond
** River of Death = Chickamaugua
** Peachtree Province = Georgia
** Five Lakes = Great Lakes
* MedievalStasis: Most of the attitudes, culture and technology are heavily based in medieval European cultures. Instead of pants, most of the men wear pantaloons, crossbows are the long range hand weapons, pikemen are still in use, etc.
* RecycledInSpace: The American Civil War retold in Middle Earth. With crossbows, swords, unicorns and Dragons!
* SiegeEngines: Both sides use catapults as the cannon alternative, which can either sling heavy stones or firepots, and ballista like weapons, but with higher rates of fire. Their description implies they may be an analogue to the machine gun, with their ability to fire multiple darts at once.
* StealthPun: Many.
** A King Kermit is mentioned to be a past king of a French like country. Given that a nickname for French people used to be frogs, one can only see the pun arriving.
** Doubting George is a reference to General George H. Thomas, who was known for his cautious yet brilliant strategies during the war.
** Ned of the Forest is Nathan B. Forrest.
** Fighting Joseph is Joseph Hooker.
** Thraxton the Braggart is Braxton Bragg.
** Leonidas the Priest is Leonidas Polk, and he comes to the same end as well.
** ''Advance and Retreat'' is also the name given to General John Bell Hood's own memoirs.
** The counterpart of the real life General Rosecrans is General Guildenstern, as a nod to ''RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead''.
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