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** Shiraori deliberately manipulated Wrath and Sophia so they would encounter each other and fight even though they both ended up joining Shiraori's camp after talking for a few minutes.

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** In the web novel, Shiraori deliberately manipulated Wrath and Sophia so they would encounter each other and fight even though they both ended up joining Shiraori's camp after talking for a few minutes.


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* FailureToSaveMurder: Played with. Shiraori is resented by the demon higher ups for allowing Blow to be killed by Hero Julius when she could have easily saved his life. However, she thought she was doing what he wanted and her own brother grudgingly believes that it's not really her fault. She could have saved him, but the one who actually dealt the killing blow was Julius.

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* FailureToSaveMurder: Played with. Shiraori is resented by the demon higher ups for allowing Blow to be killed by Hero Julius when she could have easily saved his life. However, she thought she was doing what he wanted and her his own brother grudgingly believes that it's not really her fault. She could have saved him, but the one who actually dealt the killing blow was Julius.

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** Volume six does however bring the Remnants back to the forefront, with their raw power explained by them not just being "talented" as in the web novel, but also due to [[spoiler:Kumoko's rogue parallel wills training them in order to destroy humanity]].


* TheChosenOne: At any given time there will be a "Hero" and "Demon King", automatically selected by the System. The Hero leads humans against the Demon King's demons though at the start of the story both sides are avoiding conflict. [[spoiler:A Demon King and Hero, Sariel's assistant Foddway and one of Ariel's experimental siblings respectively, naturally arose soon after the System was established; "D" found it amusing and made it part of the System]]. Shun seems to be an extra special version because [[spoiler:Sariel went out of her way to pick him because she knew Shiraori wasn't willing to kill him.]] As an added bonus, he has a broken 'everything tends to go the way I want' luck-type skill attached.

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* TheChosenOne: At any given time there will be a "Hero" and "Demon King", automatically selected by the System. The Hero leads humans against the Demon King's demons though at the start of the story both sides are avoiding conflict. [[spoiler:A Demon King and Hero, Sariel's assistant Foddway and one of Ariel's experimental siblings respectively, naturally arose soon after the System was established; "D" found it amusing and made it part of the System]]. Shun seems to be an extra special version because [[spoiler:Sariel went out of her way to pick him because she knew Shiraori wasn't willing to kill him.]] As an added bonus, he has a broken 'everything tends to go the way I want' luck-type skill attached.attached courtesy of D.

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** The light novel reveals that D is in charge of [[spoiler:the underworld]], and Meido is in charge of [[spoiler:hell]].


** When Kumoko shows up on a battlefield intending to help the Goddess religion against the Divine Word religion, she only attacks the latter until a random soldier from 'her' side attacks her in a panic. When she defends herself, the people she was defending view her as hostile and attack, so she ends up massacring both sides.

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** When In the web novel, when Kumoko shows up on a battlefield intending to help the Goddess religion against the Divine Word religion, she only attacks the latter until a random soldier from 'her' side attacks her in a panic. When she defends herself, the people she was defending view her as hostile and attack, so she ends up massacring both sides.


* AwfulTruth: Level 10 Taboo reveals the actual nature and history of the [[spoiler:Skill system: humans destroyed the entire planet centuries ago by creating LifeStream eating {{MagiTech}}. The System is essentially a purgatory placed upon humanity where they must fight and die over countless lifetimes to restore the energy they stole. The alternative is letting the world die, killing everyone and rendering every sacrifice up till that point by the comatose goddess Sariel and all the people who died basically pointless]]. Most people go crazy to some degree after learning this. [[spoiler:However, it's less the fault of humans than the Taboo skill actually implies, which is suggested to be intentional on the part of D.[[note]]While humans did play a role, there were pretty solid reasons for not stopping and the dragons were the ones who actually dealt the death blow to the world while Sariel could have cleaned things up but instead chose to do nothing but give a warning that had no credibility to it.[[/note]] Taboo doesn't tell the full story but instead emphasizes the recklessness of the humans and their selfishness towards Sariel. When Shun hits Taboo 10 as a result of Shiraori's manipulations, someone that is implied to be Sariel fills the gaps in the record, which allows him to maintain his stability.]]

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* AwfulTruth: Level 10 Taboo reveals the actual nature and history of the [[spoiler:Skill system: humans destroyed the entire planet centuries ago by creating LifeStream eating {{MagiTech}}.{{Magitek}}. The System is essentially a purgatory placed upon humanity where they must fight and die over countless lifetimes to restore the energy they stole. The alternative is letting the world die, killing everyone and rendering every sacrifice up till that point by the comatose goddess Sariel and all the people who died basically pointless]]. Most people go crazy to some degree after learning this. [[spoiler:However, it's less the fault of humans than the Taboo skill actually implies, which is suggested to be intentional on the part of D.[[note]]While humans did play a role, there were pretty solid reasons for not stopping and the dragons were the ones who actually dealt the death blow to the world while Sariel could have cleaned things up but instead chose to do nothing but give a warning that had no credibility to it.[[/note]] Taboo doesn't tell the full story but instead emphasizes the recklessness of the humans and their selfishness towards Sariel. When Shun hits Taboo 10 as a result of Shiraori's manipulations, someone that is implied to be Sariel fills the gaps in the record, which allows him to maintain his stability.]]


* BigBad: As defined by the author, the three main "Perpetrators" who are responsible for shaping the events of the story are, from the top: [[spoiler:Potimas]], D and Shiraori.

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* BigBad: BigBadEnsemble: As defined noted by the author, the Okina Baba, there are three main "Perpetrators" who are responsible for shaping the events of the story are, story, from the top: [[spoiler:Potimas]], D and Shiraori.

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* TheManInFrontOfTheMan: [[spoiler:Demon King Ariel]] is eventually revealed to take her cues on the war's progress from [[spoiler:Shiraori]], one of her generals.


* BadassGrandpa: Basgas is an elderly man who lived his entire life guiding people through the Labyrinth, thus accruing an impressive set of stats and skills. When his son hesitates to take on Shun's team, Basgas tells him off for being a coward and leads them himself.

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Basgas is an elderly man who lived his entire life guiding people through the Labyrinth, thus accruing an impressive set of stats and skills. When his son hesitates to take on Shun's team, Basgas tells him off for being a coward and leads them himself.himself.
** Ronant is middle-aged when the novel starts and pushing into old age by the time of the main conflict. Despite this his dedication to becoming stronger means his magic has only gotten more powerful, to the point that he could defeat a [[spoiler:robot]] despite its anti-magic field. It's noted by the author that Ronant increasing his level and stats so much despite being past the prime age for such is just a sign of how exceptional he is.


** [[JerkassGods D]]/[[spoiler:Wakaba Hiiro]], the Secondary Perpetrator, came into the picture after [[spoiler:Potimas]]'s machinations had already left a lasting impact on the backstory. D was responsible for creating the System and binding everything on the world to it, which alone makes her a very important historic figure. However, D also threw in various mechanical quirks and extras into the System that could be said to be unnecessary or even outright dangerous for its purpose [[ItAmusedMe simply because it was more interesting that way,]] which had very detrimental effects over the course of history. She also is responsible for allowing the Primary Perpetrator to run around uncheked in the present because [[spoiler:she stopped the one person who could and ''would'' have done something about it before they could do anything.]] Finally, it was D who set up the reincarnators in the new world and bound them to the System, [[spoiler:including creating Kumoko's fake identity and self-awareness, making her directly responsible for Shiraori's existence]], which makes D indirectly responsible for ''their'' actions in the story, [[spoiler:including Shiraori's own machinations because she forbid Shiraori from simply leaving the conflict, forcing her instead to actively participate in it.]] In short, after [[spoiler:Potimas]] was done, this person picked up the gun next, [[DissonantSerenity nonchalantly taped it to the hand of the backstory]] and [[ItAmusedMe calmly sat down to watch how long it would take for the trigger to be pulled.]] [[PassThePopcorn With a tub of popcorn.]]

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** [[JerkassGods D]]/[[spoiler:Wakaba Hiiro]], the Secondary Perpetrator, came into the picture after [[spoiler:Potimas]]'s machinations had already left a lasting impact on the backstory. D was responsible for creating the System and binding everything on the world to it, which alone makes her a very important historic figure. However, D also threw in various mechanical quirks and extras into the System that could be said to be unnecessary or even outright dangerous for its purpose [[ItAmusedMe simply because it was more interesting that way,]] which had very detrimental effects over the course of history. She also is responsible for allowing the Primary Perpetrator to run around uncheked in the present because [[spoiler:she stopped the one person who could and ''would'' have done something about it before they could do anything.]] Finally, it was D who set up the reincarnators in the new world and bound them to the System, [[spoiler:including creating Kumoko's fake identity and self-awareness, making her directly responsible for Shiraori's existence]], which makes D indirectly responsible for ''their'' actions in the story, [[spoiler:including Shiraori's own machinations because she forbid Shiraori from simply leaving the conflict, forcing her instead to actively participate in it.]] In short, after [[spoiler:Potimas]] was done, this person picked up the gun next, [[DissonantSerenity nonchalantly taped it to the hand of the backstory]] and [[ItAmusedMe calmly sat down to watch how long it would take for the trigger to be pulled.what happened next.]] [[PassThePopcorn With a tub of popcorn.]]

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* BigBad: As defined by the author, the three main "Perpetrators" who are responsible for shaping the events of the story are, from the top: [[spoiler:Potimas]], D and Shiraori.
** [[spoiler:[[TheUnfettered Potimas]]]] is the Primary Perpetrator, whose selfish, single-minded pursuit of {{Immortality}} is what ultimately started the chain of events that led to the world's current state, including [[spoiler:the world being on the brink of destruction]] and necessity of the System itself, the creation of several of the world's races, the situations (and traumas) of several characters (such as Sensei and [[spoiler:Ariel]]) and even, partially, [[spoiler:the deaths of the students at the start of the series!]] [[spoiler:It says a lot that even after finally being killed, his machinations still have an effect on the story.]] In short, this person [[KickTheDog took the gun first and shot the backstory full of holes without mercy or guilt.]]
** [[JerkassGods D]]/[[spoiler:Wakaba Hiiro]], the Secondary Perpetrator, came into the picture after [[spoiler:Potimas]]'s machinations had already left a lasting impact on the backstory. D was responsible for creating the System and binding everything on the world to it, which alone makes her a very important historic figure. However, D also threw in various mechanical quirks and extras into the System that could be said to be unnecessary or even outright dangerous for its purpose [[ItAmusedMe simply because it was more interesting that way,]] which had very detrimental effects over the course of history. She also is responsible for allowing the Primary Perpetrator to run around uncheked in the present because [[spoiler:she stopped the one person who could and ''would'' have done something about it before they could do anything.]] Finally, it was D who set up the reincarnators in the new world and bound them to the System, [[spoiler:including creating Kumoko's fake identity and self-awareness, making her directly responsible for Shiraori's existence]], which makes D indirectly responsible for ''their'' actions in the story, [[spoiler:including Shiraori's own machinations because she forbid Shiraori from simply leaving the conflict, forcing her instead to actively participate in it.]] In short, after [[spoiler:Potimas]] was done, this person picked up the gun next, [[DissonantSerenity nonchalantly taped it to the hand of the backstory]] and [[ItAmusedMe calmly sat down to watch how long it would take for the trigger to be pulled.]] [[PassThePopcorn With a tub of popcorn.]]
** [[WomanInWhite Shiraori]]/[[spoiler:Kumoko]], also known as Shiro, is the Tertiary Perpetrator, the person who, after taking into account the actions of the Primary and Secondary Perpetrators, decided to become the big mover in the present of the story in order to address and attempt to fix the giant mess they left behind. Partly because of her own character flaws and because of her circumstances, [[WellIntentionedExtremist the methods she uses and the path she walks]] have essentially landed her squarely on the role of the BigBad from a conventional storytelling point, [[spoiler:even though she's actually the protagonist.]] Her web stretches out to cover the known world; her eyes are ''[[BigBrotherIsWatching everywhere]]'', [[ManipulativeBastard her schemes are in some way woven into the lives or plots of a lot of the other characters]], [[TheManBehindTheMan she's the one who holds the real power behind the Demon King]], and she's the one who stands the best chance of [[spoiler:preventing the destruction of the world and the complete soul collapse of its inhabitants.]] [[AntiVillain Cold and aloof, pragmatic nearly to an extreme, but self-conscious and still capable of kindness, worn down by numerous traumas and experiences,]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist the "Evil God" who conspires to save the world through genocide;]] this person picked up the gun last, and decided to ShootTheDog in order to [[MercyKill put it out of its misery]] while scorning the previous two individuals for starting and then prolonging it's suffering. [[spoiler:That is the kind of person our protagonist is.]]


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* FiveManBand: For Shun's side:
** TheHero: Shun
** TheLancer: Katia. Occasionally has moments as TheChick though.
** TheBigGuy: Hrynth
** TheSmartGuy: Sensei/Oka-chan
** TheChick: Yuri, later replaced by Anna.


** [[spoiler:The previous Hero and Demon King teleported into the protagonits' classroom because the evil god who controls their world, D, was on a holiday as a Japanese school student on Earth.]]

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** [[spoiler:The The previous Hero and Demon King teleported into the protagonits' classroom because the [[spoiler:the evil god who controls their world, D, was on a holiday as a Japanese school student on Earth.]]



** [[spoiler:The RPG system everyone uses is just a large scale application of magic created by D for some alternate purpose. This means effects like poison or elemental weaknesses are just complicated magic mimicking game mechanics.]]
** [[spoiler:The main character, Kumoko, was never a Japanese high school student named Wakaba Hiro. Instead, she was a house spider who was living in Wakaba's classroom. In fact, Wakaba Hiro is actually D, the self-proclaimed evil god of TheUnderworld, who gave part of her memories to the spider, then reincarnated it somewhere she expected it to die, so when it got to the underworld it would throw her boss/partner off D's trail a little while longer, and she could keep slacking off on Earth. Kumoko instead survived, which D found so entertaining she didn't want to interfere with the spider's exploits, and abandoned her original plan.]]
** [[spoiler:Shiro/Shiraori, the seeming BigBad of Shun's side story, is actually Kumoko. And Kumoko's entire story up to the point the side story started was actually set a decade before Shun's.]]
** [[spoiler:The System is actually a PerpetualMotionMachine that absorbs the skills and experience mortals have gained over their life after they die to do ''something''...]]
** [[spoiler:The System is actually repairing the planet, as centuries ago humans created [[TheLifestream Lifestream]] eating MagiTek that literally split the planet in two and killed 90% of all life. Also the previous Hero and Demon King teleporting onto Earth to kill D stole so much energy from the System that it'll fail in a matter of years.]]

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** [[spoiler:The The RPG system everyone uses is just [[spoiler:just a large scale application of magic created by D for some alternate purpose. This means effects like poison or elemental weaknesses are just complicated magic mimicking game mechanics.]]
** [[spoiler:The The main character, Kumoko, was [[spoiler:was never a Japanese high school student named Wakaba Hiro. Instead, she was a house spider who was living in Wakaba's classroom. In fact, Wakaba Hiro is actually D, the self-proclaimed evil god of TheUnderworld, who gave part of her memories to the spider, then reincarnated it somewhere she expected it to die, so when it got to the underworld it would throw her boss/partner off D's trail a little while longer, and she could keep slacking off on Earth. Kumoko instead survived, which D found so entertaining she didn't want to interfere with the spider's exploits, and abandoned her original plan.]]
** [[spoiler:Shiro/Shiraori, * Shiro/Shiraori, the seeming BigBad of Shun's side story, is story, [[spoiler:is actually Kumoko. And Kumoko's entire story up to the point the side story started was actually set a decade before Shun's.]]
** [[spoiler:The The System is actually a [[spoiler:a PerpetualMotionMachine that absorbs the skills and experience mortals have gained over their life after they die to do ''something''...]]
** [[spoiler:The Further, the System is actually repairing [[spoiler:repairing the planet, as centuries ago humans created [[TheLifestream Lifestream]] eating MagiTek that literally split the planet in two and killed 90% of all life. Also the previous Hero and Demon King teleporting onto Earth to kill D stole so much energy from the System that it'll fail in a matter of years.]]



** [[spoiler:Which leads to: The System was ''far from the best solution'' D could have given Gyurie and Sariel. For instance, D could have trivially repaired the planet herself with her own massive amounts of soul energy, or allowed Gyurie to kill Potimas to make the whole process go ''much'' faster. But instead, she imprisons Sariel, tricks Gyurie into doing nothing, and spares Potimas, ''because it's more interesting to watch that way''.]]

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** [[spoiler:Which Which leads to: The System was ''far from the best solution'' D [[spoiler:D could have given Gyurie and Sariel. For instance, D could have trivially repaired the planet herself with her own massive amounts of soul energy, or allowed Gyurie to kill Potimas to make the whole process go ''much'' faster. But instead, she imprisons Sariel, tricks Gyurie into doing nothing, and spares Potimas, ''because it's more interesting to watch that way''.]]

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** Of course, there is this gem in the second light novel.
--->'''Kumoko''': If a little white demon came up to me right now and said, [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica "Make a contract with me and become a magical girl,"]] I'd totally say yes at this point. But then I'd have to get rid of him afterward, of course.

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