History KarmaHoudini / Religion

* According to Christian theology, Jesus Christ made karma houdinis out of mankind, because His crucifixion paid the debt for sin in mankind's place.
** To sum how this is a KarmaHoudini: If you believe in Jesus, you will go to Heaven, no matter what you do in life. If you do not believe in Jesus, you will burn in Hell for all eternity, even if you are a morally neutral or good person. According to this concept, [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel Hitler went to Heaven]] because, despite popular myths that he was atheist, he was staunch Catholic.

* According to Christian theology, Jesus Christ made karma houdinis out of mankind, because His crucifixion paid the debt for sin in mankind's place.

* According to Christian theology, Jesus Christ made karma houdinis out of mankind, because His crucifixion paid the debt for sin in mankind's place.
** YourMileageMayVary: Some Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in the first place, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

** YourMileageMayVary: Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in the first place, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

** YourMileageMayVary: Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in the first place, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)
* What about Old Testament God? Most of the horrible, horrible things in the Bible are done by God...

** YourMileageMayVary: Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in the first place, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

** YourMileageMayVary: People are still held accountable for misdeeds. (Just how accountable depends on whom you ask; some fear going to {{Hell}} for [[DisproportionateRetribution even]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking relatively minor]] [[JaywalkingWillRuinYourLife misdeeds]], and others believe that [[GodIsGood a loving God wouldn't send people to hell for even the most heinous offense.]]) Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in general, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

* The Lord God Almighty Himself can be accountable for this. Think about it, this is a guy who has murdered 2,038,344 people in comparison to Satan's rather measly 10 people. And because he is God and undefeatable, he gets away with it. And that's okay!

** YourMileageMayVary: People are still held accountable for misdeeds. (Just how accountable depends on whom you ask; some fear going to {{Hell}} for [[DisproportinateRetribution even]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking relatively minor]] [[JaywalkingWillRuinYourLife misdeeds]], and others believe that [[GodIsGood a loving God wouldn't send people to hell for even the most heinous offense.]]) Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in general, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

** YourMileageMayVary: People are still held accountable for misdeeds. (Just how accountable depends on whom you ask; some fear going to {{Hell}} for even [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking relatively minor]] [[JaywalkingWillRuinYourLife misdeeds]], and others believe that [[GodIsGood a loving God wouldn't send people to hell for even the most heinous offense.]]) Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in general, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

** YourMileageMayVary: People are still held accountable for misdeeds. (Just how accountable depends on whom you ask; some fear going to {{Hell}} for even [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking relatively minor]] [[JaywalkingWillRuinYourLife misdeeds]], and others believe that [[GodIsGood a loving God wouldn't send people to hell for even the most heinous offense.]]) Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in general, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)
** Referring to the first commentor, I mean this in a nice way: [[DidNotDoTheResearch You didn't even do the research, did you?!]] Jesus never said we can be free to do whatever the [[IncrediblyLamePun hell]] we want because he died for us. No, here's how it works: When Adam and Eve sinned, they were banned from Heaven. Forever. And so were all their descendents who were to come after them. So that meant nobody could do anything to avoid Hell. Jesus fixed that for us by dying, so now the ''opportunity'' exists for salvation. The details vary from one sect to another, but...[[FridgeBrilliance in a way, you're kind of right]].
*** This is not really a karma houdini situation, as the initial individuals could not be considered by any rational mind to be responsible for their actions. Blaming Adam and Eve would be like blaming a retarded child for picking up a gun and accidently shooting someone after his parent intentionally left it sitting in front of him, loaded and off safety, with just a reminder saying "This will make you strong, don't touch it," then telling another kid to come in and tell the retarded child to pick up the gun. When someone is without knowledge of good and evil, you can't blame them for anything.

** Referring to the first commentor, I mean this in a nice way: [[DidNotDoTheResearch You didn't even do the research, did you?!]] Jesus never said we can be free to do whatever the [[IncrediblyLamePun hell]] we want because he died for us. No, here's how it works: When Adam and Eve sinned, they were banned from Heaven. Forever. And so were all their descendents who were to come after them. So that meant nobody could do anything to avoid Hell. Jesus fixed that for us by dying, so now the ''opportunity'' exists for salvation. The details vary from one sect to another, but...[[FridgeBrilliance in a way, you're kind of right]].

** [[DidNotDoTheResearch You didn't even do the research, did you?]] Jesus never said we can be free to do whatever the [[IncrediblyLamePun hell]] we want because he died for us. No, here's how it works: When Adam and Eve sinned, they were banned from Heaven. Forever. And so were all their descendents who were to come after them. So that meant nobody could do anything to avoid Hell. Jesus fixed that for us by dying, so now the ''opportunity'' exists for salvation. Trust me, I wish Christianity equalled avoiding karma!

** YourMileageMayVary: People are still held accountable for misdeeds. (Just how accountable depends on whom you ask; some fear going to {{Hell}} for even [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking relatively minor]] [[JaywalkingWillRuinYourLife misdeeds]], and others believe that [[GodIsGood a loving God wouldn't send people to hell for even the most heinous offense.]]) Mainstream Christian ideology usually goes with that yes, Jesus' sacrifice brought salvation to humankind in general, but it's up to the ''individual'' (and his/her [[HeelFaithTurn faith]]) to [[EarnYourHappyEnding attain salvation for him/herself]] (whether through [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve pure faith]], [[GoodFeelsGood good works]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs both]].)

* According to Christian theology, Jesus Christ made karma houdinis out of mankind, because His crucifixion paid the debt for sin in mankind's place.