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* ''Manga/FullMetalAlchemist'': Give Ed enough time, and he'll find a way to find anything and everything to be an insult about his [[HeightAngst height]]
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** Tomura Shigaraki believes that because heroes use non-lethal violence in order to stop genocidal villains, then there is no difference between them, and villains will rise to prominence if they kill the strongest heroes. While PoliceBrutality is a real thing to be concerned about, his problem is the "hypocrisy" of violence against violence. All Might notes that it's a bizarre philosophy that looks like it might have merit until you think about it for half a second, and is one of the key reasons that Tomura is labeled a PsychopathicManChild.

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** Tomura Shigaraki believes (or claims to believe) that because heroes use non-lethal violence in order to stop genocidal villains, then there is no difference between them, and villains will rise to prominence if they kill the strongest heroes. While PoliceBrutality is a real thing to be concerned about, his problem is the "hypocrisy" of violence against violence. All Might notes that it's a bizarre philosophy that looks like it might have merit until you think about it for half a second, and is one of the key reasons that Tomura is labeled a PsychopathicManChild.

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** [[spoiler: Kaido's child Yamato]] is such a huge fan of Oden that they decided to literally become him, wearing similar clothing, referring to themselves as Oden and deciding to protect Momo because Momo is their "son". A decision that is becomes even more ludicrous than it sounds inexecution because physically they are a ''[[BoobBasedGag comically voluptuous]]'' woman. Even Luffy becomes exasperated with [[spoiler: Yamato]]'s "logic".

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** [[spoiler: Kaido's child Yamato]] is such a huge fan of Oden that they decided to literally become him, wearing similar clothing, referring to themselves as Oden and deciding to protect Momo because Momo is their "son". A decision that is becomes even more ludicrous than it sounds inexecution in execution because physically they are a ''[[BoobBasedGag comically voluptuous]]'' woman. Even Luffy becomes exasperated with [[spoiler: Yamato]]'s "logic".


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** A decade before the manga started, Vander Decken IX wanted to marry Princess Shirahoshi for personal benefit, but she was just a child at the time. However, Decken also knew about a treasure held by the royal family, which could be used to induce RapidAging. So he hatched a plan: marry Shirahoshi in order to get access to the treasure, then use it to turn Shirahoshi into an adult, so he could marry her. In the present, even now that Shirahoshi is ''already'' an adult, Decken is still sticking to his plan.
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* In ''Manga/{{Kaiji}}'''s Chinchiro arc, the title character catches foreman Ootsuki cheating [[spoiler:with special dice that only have the numbers 4, 5, and 6]]. Because Kaiji exposed this by [[spoiler:grabbing the bowl [[DidntSeeThatComing while the dice were still rolling]]]], Ootsuki insists that he never completed a roll, therefore he didn't actually use his trick dice, therefore he didn't cheat and should be let off the hook.
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** [[spoiler: Kaido's son Yamato]] is such a huge fan of Oden that they decided to literally become him, wearing similar clothing, referring to themselves as Oden and deciding to protect Momo because Momo is their "son". Even Luffy becomes exasperated with [[spoiler: Yamato]]'s certain logic.

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** [[spoiler: Kaido's son child Yamato]] is such a huge fan of Oden that they decided to literally become him, wearing similar clothing, referring to themselves as Oden and deciding to protect Momo because Momo is their "son". A decision that is becomes even more ludicrous than it sounds inexecution because physically they are a ''[[BoobBasedGag comically voluptuous]]'' woman. Even Luffy becomes exasperated with [[spoiler: Yamato]]'s certain logic."logic".
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* Sarada Uchiha from ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'' really takes after her father when it comes to nonsensical reasoning. She starts to believe that her mother, is not her biological mother, because none of her parents wear glasses, while she does, and runs away from home. Even when it's pointed out how much she resemble both physically and personality-wise her mother, she still believes that another random woman from Sasuke's past is her real mother, simply because they both wear glasses, and not because they have any sort of physical resemblance. Than she asks Suigetsu, who is known for being quite dumb, to run a DNA test that gives 100% match from an unknown tissue (which turns out to be Sarada's own umbilical cord, not that she knew this). In the end, it turns out that the one she thought was not her biological, '''WAS''' in fact, her biological mother, while the other was just the midwife.

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* Sarada Uchiha from ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'' really takes after her father when it comes to nonsensical reasoning. She starts to believe that her mother, mother is not her biological mother, mother because none of her parents wear glasses, while she does, and runs away from home. Even when it's pointed out how much she resemble resembles her mother both physically and personality-wise her mother, personality-wise, she still believes that another random woman from Sasuke's past is her real mother, simply because they both wear glasses, and not because they have any sort of physical resemblance. Than Then she asks Suigetsu, who is known for being quite dumb, to run a DNA test that gives a 100% match from an unknown tissue (which turns out to be Sarada's own umbilical cord, not that she knew this). In the end, it turns out that the one she thought was not her biological, biological mother, '''WAS''' in fact, her biological mother, while the other was just the midwife.
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-->'''Shopkeeper:''' You're asking me for permission to kill your husband for the sake of preserving your marriage?

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-->'''Shopkeeper:''' You're asking me for permission -->'''Yor:''' Ash a normal pershon, I need to kill your husband for the sake of preserving your marriage?murder you sho that nobody dishcovers I'm really a killer.
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* ''Manga/SpyXFamily'': While drunk, Yor gets it in her head that because her fake marriage with Loid seems too perfect, she has to kill him to preserve the sham.
-->'''Shopkeeper:''' You're asking me for permission to kill your husband for the sake of preserving your marriage?
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* Seryuu of ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' is so obsessed with justice and bringing criminals to it, that she believes that any crime is punishable by death and outright thinks the ultimate justice is killing people before they are able to ever commit a crime. After killing a group of bandits and rescuing their prisoner, she ''kills'' the woman for helping the bandits, despite her having only done so under threat of her own life.

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* Seryuu Seryu Ubiquitous of ''Manga/AkameGaKill'' is so obsessed with justice and bringing criminals to it, that she believes that any crime is punishable by death and outright thinks the ultimate justice is killing people before they are able to ever commit a crime. After killing a group of bandits and rescuing their prisoner, she ''kills'' the woman for helping the bandits, despite her having only done so under threat of her own life.
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* In chapter 68 of ''Manga/MyMonsterSecret'', [[OverprotectiveDad Genjirou]] is worried about his daughter, who is having a school trip on the tropical islands. However, because he is a vampire, he [[CannotCrossRunningWater can't just fly over the seas]] to her. His friend Karen then provided a solution: Turn his house into an even more beautiful tropical paradise so his daughter will come home willingly. Even the resident {{troll}} Akane is completely dumbfounded at this idea.

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* In chapter 68 of ''Manga/MyMonsterSecret'', [[OverprotectiveDad [[HelicopterParents Genjirou]] is worried about his daughter, who is having a school trip on the tropical islands. However, because he is a vampire, he [[CannotCrossRunningWater can't just fly over the seas]] to her. His friend Karen then provided a solution: Turn his house into an even more beautiful tropical paradise so his daughter will come home willingly. Even the resident {{troll}} Akane is completely dumbfounded at this idea.
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* In LightNovel/CombatantsWillBeDispatched, when No. 6 questions if the warp device has been tested before they use it on him:

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* ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDxD'': [[BadassPacifist Sirzechs]] (Yes, ''that'' [[{{Ambadassador}} Sirzechs]]) once spent what is implied to be several days (if not a few weeks) straight out stalking Issei as Satan Red in an attempt to take back Millicas's (his son) admiration from Oppai Dragon. [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext It is exactly as insane as it sounds]].

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* ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDxD'': ''Literature/HighSchoolDxD'': [[BadassPacifist Sirzechs]] (Yes, ''that'' [[{{Ambadassador}} Sirzechs]]) once spent what is implied to be several days (if not a few weeks) straight out stalking Issei as Satan Red in an attempt to take back Millicas's (his son) admiration from Oppai Dragon. [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext It is exactly as insane as it sounds]].



* ''LightNovel/JigokuNoGoukaDeYakaReTsuzuketaShounen:'' The old lady who allows Flare, Primavera, and Aishera to stay the night refuses to take a suit of holy mithril armor as payment for lodging, explaining that it's worth far too much. Flare, confused, decides to make it worth less by punching it until it's crumpled and riddled with dents. After getting over her initial shock at the sheer stupidity of the gesture, she busts out laughing at Flare's sincerity and ends up exchanging it for 100 gold coins and some new clothes for the girls.

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* ''LightNovel/JigokuNoGoukaDeYakaReTsuzuketaShounen:'' ''Literature/JigokuNoGoukaDeYakaReTsuzuketaShounen:'' The old lady who allows Flare, Primavera, and Aishera to stay the night refuses to take a suit of holy mithril armor as payment for lodging, explaining that it's worth far too much. Flare, confused, decides to make it worth less by punching it until it's crumpled and riddled with dents. After getting over her initial shock at the sheer stupidity of the gesture, she busts out laughing at Flare's sincerity and ends up exchanging it for 100 gold coins and some new clothes for the girls.



* Conversed and subverted in ''LightNovel/RebuildWorld''. The CyberNinja Nelia, InLoveWithTheMark Akira, tells him that she wants him to be her lover in the seconds it will take her to kill him. Akira calls her out on how illogical that is, and keeps bringing it up in the future. The thing is, we learn later that Nelia is a ConsummateProfessional who feels IGaveMyWord about her mission contract, and due to her mission contract demanding that Akira must die to complete it, she basically values keeping her promises over her own feelings.
* ''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'': Deconstructed; the trope manifests itself in the series to simultaneously drive home how full of it Naofumi's antagonists are, and to the point of being blatantly obtrusive and downright hazardous ''because'' their basic reasoning skills are so deeply lacking. His enemies are content with spewing so much bile about him that they outright contradict themselves, calling him a useless coward who can't do anything remotely useful (to the point where he was accused of not only cheating, but ''stealing power from the other heroes'' by certain others when he does go above and beyond) and an evil brainwashing monster trying to take over the whole country (neglecting to acknowledge that if he had any of the abilities they kept accusing him of having, none of them would even have a remote chance of stopping him). The problem is that the people making the insane, baseless accusations and going on them as if they were indisputable fact are people of power and influence, from the other Heroes to members of royalty, whose actions actively wound up hindering not only Naofumi and his attempts to get stronger, but the country's safety at large, and it's not lost on anyone sane (Naofumi himself, his allies, the citizens, and Queen Mirelia herself) that these people are just TooDumbToLive and too LethallyStupid to be looked at as anything but.

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* Conversed and subverted in ''LightNovel/RebuildWorld''.''Literature/RebuildWorld''. The CyberNinja Nelia, InLoveWithTheMark Akira, tells him that she wants him to be her lover in the seconds it will take her to kill him. Akira calls her out on how illogical that is, and keeps bringing it up in the future. The thing is, we learn later that Nelia is a ConsummateProfessional who feels IGaveMyWord about her mission contract, and due to her mission contract demanding that Akira must die to complete it, she basically values keeping her promises over her own feelings.
* ''LightNovel/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'': ''Literature/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'': Deconstructed; the trope manifests itself in the series to simultaneously drive home how full of it Naofumi's antagonists are, and to the point of being blatantly obtrusive and downright hazardous ''because'' their basic reasoning skills are so deeply lacking. His enemies are content with spewing so much bile about him that they outright contradict themselves, calling him a useless coward who can't do anything remotely useful (to the point where he was accused of not only cheating, but ''stealing power from the other heroes'' by certain others when he does go above and beyond) and an evil brainwashing monster trying to take over the whole country (neglecting to acknowledge that if he had any of the abilities they kept accusing him of having, none of them would even have a remote chance of stopping him). The problem is that the people making the insane, baseless accusations and going on them as if they were indisputable fact are people of power and influence, from the other Heroes to members of royalty, whose actions actively wound up hindering not only Naofumi and his attempts to get stronger, but the country's safety at large, and it's not lost on anyone sane (Naofumi himself, his allies, the citizens, and Queen Mirelia herself) that these people are just TooDumbToLive and too LethallyStupid to be looked at as anything but.



* ''Lightnovel/TheWayToProtectTheFemaleLeadsOlderBrother'': In the original novel, Jeremy Agriche [[VillainousCrush is in love with]] Sylvia Pedelian. However, [[TheDon his father]] has, for unrelated reasons, ordered the kidnapping, torture and eventual murder of Sylvia's beloved older brother, Cassis. Unaware of that, Sylvia searches for Cassis, asking other male characters for help, which makes Jeremy jealous. So, to make Sylvia stop, he reveals to her what happened to her brother, even offering to bring back [[CreepySouvenir Cassis' eyeballs]] to her. Sylvia goes through a massive FreakOut, eventually swearing revenge on all Agriches, all while Jeremy stares at her in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood genuine puzzlement]].

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* ''Lightnovel/TheWayToProtectTheFemaleLeadsOlderBrother'': ''Literature/TheWayToProtectTheFemaleLeadsOlderBrother'': In the original novel, Jeremy Agriche [[VillainousCrush is in love with]] Sylvia Pedelian. However, [[TheDon his father]] has, for unrelated reasons, ordered the kidnapping, torture and eventual murder of Sylvia's beloved older brother, Cassis. Unaware of that, Sylvia searches for Cassis, asking other male characters for help, which makes Jeremy jealous. So, to make Sylvia stop, he reveals to her what happened to her brother, even offering to bring back [[CreepySouvenir Cassis' eyeballs]] to her. Sylvia goes through a massive FreakOut, eventually swearing revenge on all Agriches, all while Jeremy stares at her in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood genuine puzzlement]].
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** In the same part, an angry Yukako claims that it's 'the light's fault for turning red' after being yelled at for walking in front of a car.

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** In the same part, an angry Yukako [[NeverMyFault claims that it's 'the light's fault for turning red' after being yelled at for walking in front of a car.car]].

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* ''Manga/FruitsBasket'': Machi's [[MyBelovedSmother mother]] takes it to ludicrous levels. When she came across Machi placing a blanket over her baby brother at night, rather than accept Machi's far more believable or logical explanation that she was trying to keep him warm, Mrs. Kuragi immediately assumes that she was trying to [[MistakenForMurderer smother him]] out of [[InfantSiblingJealousy jealousy]] and kicks her out of the house.



* ''Manga/FruitsBasket'': Machi's [[MyBelovedSmother mother]] takes it to ludicrous levels. When she came across Machi placing a blanket over her baby brother at night, rather than accept Machi's far more believable or logical explanation that she was trying to keep him warm, Mrs. Kuragi immediately assumes that she was trying to [[MistakenForMurderer smother him]] out of [[InfantSiblingJealousy jealousy]] and kicks her out of the house.
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** Mako herself is a master of this, often giving energetic speeches that baffle everyone around her, such as claiming that Ryuko didn't lose the tennis match she didn't even know she was in by claiming that since she rescued her beforehand, she "won at friendship", or telling Ryuko after her initial defeat by Satsuki that she needs to get naked to show off that [[BuxomIsBetter she has bigger boobs than her]]. Oddly enough, her conclusion (getting naked) in the above example is right, [[RightForTheWrongReasons even if her reasoning is wrong]].

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** Mako herself is a master of this, often giving energetic speeches that baffle everyone around her, such as claiming that Ryuko didn't lose the tennis match she didn't even know she was in by claiming that since she rescued her beforehand, she "won at friendship", or telling Ryuko after her initial defeat by Satsuki that she needs to get naked to show off that [[BuxomIsBetter [[BuxomBeautyStandard she has bigger boobs than her]]. Oddly enough, her conclusion (getting naked) in the above example is right, [[RightForTheWrongReasons even if her reasoning is wrong]].
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** In ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'', Jotaro and Kakyoin [[SchoolUniformsAreTheNewBlack remain in their school uniforms]] for the whole trans-continental trip to Egypt. Jotaro's justification is "We're students, so we should look like students".

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** In ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'', ''Manga/StardustCrusaders'', Jotaro and Kakyoin [[SchoolUniformsAreTheNewBlack remain in their school uniforms]] for the whole trans-continental trip to Egypt. Jotaro's justification is "We're students, so we should look like students".
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* In LightNovel/CombatantsWillBeDispatched, when No. 6 questions the if the warp device has been tested before they use it on him:

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* In ''LightNovel/CombatantsWillBeDispatched", when No. 6 questions the if the warp device has been tested before they use it on him:

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* In ''LightNovel/CombatantsWillBeDispatched", when No. 6 questions the if the warp device has been tested before they use it on him:
--> '''Lilith''': If I keep running tests and an accident occurs, the success rate won't be 100% anymore! That means the chances of this succeeding will also fall!
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** In the same part, an angry Yukako claims that it's 'the light's fault for turning red' after being yelled at for walking in front of a car.
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* ''Lightnovel/TheWayToProtectTheFemaleLeadsOlderBrother'': In the original novel, Jeremy Agriche is in love with Sylvia Pedelian. However, [[TheDon his father]] has, for unrelated reasons, ordered the kidnapping, torture and eventual murder of Sylvia's beloved older brother, Cassis. Unaware of that, Sylvia searches for Cassis, asking other male characters for help, which makes Jeremy jealous. So, to make Sylvia stop, he reveals to her what happened to her brother, even offering to bring back [[CreepySouvenir Cassis' eyeballs]] to her. Sylvia goes through a massive FreakOut, eventually swearing revenge on all Agriches, all while Jeremy stares at her in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood genuine puzzlement]].

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* ''Lightnovel/TheWayToProtectTheFemaleLeadsOlderBrother'': In the original novel, Jeremy Agriche [[VillainousCrush is in love with with]] Sylvia Pedelian. However, [[TheDon his father]] has, for unrelated reasons, ordered the kidnapping, torture and eventual murder of Sylvia's beloved older brother, Cassis. Unaware of that, Sylvia searches for Cassis, asking other male characters for help, which makes Jeremy jealous. So, to make Sylvia stop, he reveals to her what happened to her brother, even offering to bring back [[CreepySouvenir Cassis' eyeballs]] to her. Sylvia goes through a massive FreakOut, eventually swearing revenge on all Agriches, all while Jeremy stares at her in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood genuine puzzlement]].
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* ''Lightnovel/TheWayToProtectTheFemaleLeadsOlderBrother'': In the original novel, Jeremy Agriche is in love with Sylvia Pedelian. However, [[TheDon his father]] has, for unrelated reasons, ordered the kidnapping, torture and eventual murder of Sylvia's beloved older brother, Cassis. Unaware of that, Sylvia searches for Cassis, asking other male characters for help, which makes Jeremy jealous. So, to make Sylvia stop, he reveals to her what happened to her brother, even offering to bring back [[CreepySouvenir Cassis' eyeballs]] to her. Sylvia goes through a massive FreakOut, eventually swearing revenge on all Agriches, all while Jeremy stares at her in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood genuine puzzlement]].
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* In ''Anime/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'', this is Silvermask/[[spoiler: Hilmes]]'s reasoning and excuse for killing innocent Parsians who had nothing to do with the politics of the royal family. It is because they dared support a usurper of the throne and they deserve to die at the hands of the "rightful king" as punishment. So Silvermask has the full right to kill them as the rightful king, even if at this point he does not have the throne.

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* In ''Anime/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'', ''Literature/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'', this is Silvermask/[[spoiler: Hilmes]]'s reasoning and excuse for killing innocent Parsians who had nothing to do with the politics of the royal family. It is because they dared support a usurper of the throne and they deserve to die at the hands of the "rightful king" as punishment. So Silvermask has the full right to kill them as the rightful king, even if at this point he does not have the throne.
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** To make this even more twisted in every possible way, his version of DisproportionateRetribution is drenched in this. Some guy doesn't want you to bug him anymore with your psychotic shenanigans -- and you believe that ''he'' wronged '''''you''''' by "[[AttentionWhore ignoring you]]"? Well, why not settle this unfair dispute by [[spoiler:kidnapping his MoralityChain, then having her chained to a wall and repeatedly gang raped for several hours in front of a camera where you have your [[FoeYay object of "obsession"]] forcefully watch the act proceed as you threaten to release the video to ensure that said ImpliedLoveInterest has her life [[DefiledForever ruined forever]] unless he transforms into a werewolf -- during a time which he can't do so -- [[ItsAllAboutMe just for you]]]]?

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** To make this even more twisted in every possible way, his version of DisproportionateRetribution is drenched in this. Some guy doesn't want you to bug him anymore with your psychotic shenanigans -- and you believe that ''he'' wronged '''''you''''' by "[[AttentionWhore ignoring you]]"? Well, why not settle this unfair dispute by [[spoiler:kidnapping his MoralityChain, then having her chained to a wall and repeatedly gang raped for several hours in front of a camera where you have your [[FoeYay object of "obsession"]] "obsession" forcefully watch the act proceed as you threaten to release the video to ensure that said ImpliedLoveInterest has her life [[DefiledForever ruined forever]] unless he transforms into a werewolf -- during a time which he can't do so -- [[ItsAllAboutMe just for you]]]]?

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