History HoYay / Discworld

* Lord Vetinari seems to respond to practically everything Sam Vimes says or does with a weird mix of pride and amusement. And teasing. The fact that they meet ''every day'' while Vimes has to endure Vetinari's playful manipulation either suggests HoYay or FoeYay... depending on whether Vimes finally snaps and strangles him or not. It's also worthy of note that Vimes is apparently the only person that Vetinari trusts in the conventional sense, rather than the "[[CrazyPrepared so aware of exactly what they'll do in any situation that there's no cause for concern]]" sense in which he 'trusts' everyone else.

*** The ship is sailing at full force once more after Snuff and Raising Steam. Especially after the latter, where Vetinari and Drumknott are ''exceptionally'' companionable, if not outright close.

** Totally out of context, but at the end of ''Discworld/NightWatch'' there's an exchange. Looks like it's [[AllLoveIsUnrequited one-sided]].

** Similarly out of context there's this snippet of dialogue from ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'':

** Then there's this little conversation between Dr. Downey and Carrot in ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'' regarding Vetinari's poisoning:

** There's a scene in ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' where Vimes and Angua have a conversation about how she's sort of like Carrot's dog and Vimes is "Vetinari's terrier", creating an implied comparison between her relationship with Carrot and Vimes' relationship with Vetinari. And Angua drops in a comparison between Vetinari and Carrot in a manner suggesting that Vimes is the expert on Vetinari in the same way that she's the expert on Carrot. Somehow the whole thing just manages to come across like you could quite naturally assume Vimes and Vetinari are in a relationship and Angua is thinking of giving Vimes some relationship advice.

** Drumkott's function in the books is as a sounding-board for Vetinari to talk in a relatively open, neutral and honest way (since in his dealings with every active character, from Vimes to Ridcully, there's always an element of manipulation going on). The result on the page is that Vetinari comes across as being quite close and trusting towards his secretary. Drumknott in turn is utterly loyal and attentive to Vetinari's habits, to the point that in ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}'' it's mentioned that most people would consider Drumknott's ability to interpret his master's thoughts as 'magic'.
** In ''Discworld/TheTruth'' when it appears that Vetinari has had a breakdown and stabbed Drumknott, the latter's reaction is to be ''embarrassed'' on behalf of his employer.
** Vetinari for his part is equally observant of his employee's habits - for instance, in ''Discworld/MakingMoney'' he knows what Drumknott eats for breakfast, which raises the question of when he had the opportunity to find out.
** In ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'', Vetinari mentions that Drumknott would probably only be interested in 'a young lady prepared to dress up as a manila envelope', which Drumknott later rather confirms by showing interest in Lady Margolotta's equally stationary-obsessed librarian. However, this has not been alluded to since, and happened in what could be interpreted as a rough patch between Vetinari and Drumknott...

* In ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', [[SweetPollyOliver Tonker and Lofty]] are text, albeit small text.

* ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}'' introduces a pair of background characters who have a suspiciously Virginia Woolf and Vita Sackville-West aura about them (the book is one long string of shout-outs to English rural novelists and poets). It is perhaps legitimate in this context to return to ''Discworld/SoulMusic'' and re-appraise the characters of spinster schoolmistresses Miss Butts and Miss Delcross, who very carefully cultivate an aura of never having married because they are dedicated to the girls they teach at the upscale Quirm Academy for Young Ladies. Running the Disc's premier boarding school for girls, they can therefore live together and attract no suspicion.

* The restaurant scene in the film of ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' shows Gilt looming over Moist in a rather creepy way. Adora looks at them in horror and sputters "You ... and him?"
* As of ''Discworld/MovingPictures'', the Unseen University is "run" by Archchancellor Ridcully, who spends all of his time shooting or shouting at things. He and the Bursar share a relationship very evocative of the HenpeckedHusband trope, with Ridcully ordering around the much meeker Bursar, whilst the Bursar just tries to keep Ridcully in check.
* In ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'', Ridcully questions the Senior Wrangler as to why they've got mistletoe at their Hogswatch party when there are no women. The Senior Wrangler says that inviting women would "spoil everything" and gets quite evasive about what the point is of having mistletoe. When wassailers show up, the Senior Wrangler says, "I personally have always liked 'The Lily-white Boys', you know," and Ridcully gives him a "sharp look". In short, the Senior Wrangler definitely wants to kiss his fellow [[AlwaysMale wizards]].
* Apparently Vimes would like to be married to this nice old colonel he's just made friends with (in ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}''):

*** And doesn't Vetinari say at one point that he'd rather shatter the most expensive Ming vase than see one hair be harmed on that "most ancient and venerable head?"

* Sally's dialogue with Angua seems pretty flirtatious at times (suggesting that they wrestle naked in the mud, for example) and most of Angua's jealous reasons for disliking Sally strike one as the type of thing she would write in her diary about anyone else. "She's so smart, she's so pretty, she's so special."

** Totally out of context, but at the end of ''Night Watch'' there's an exchange. Looks like it's [[AllLoveIsUnrequited one-sided]].

** Similarly out of context there's this snippet of dialogue from ''Jingo'':

** Then there's this little conversation between Dr. Downey and Carrot in ''Feet Of Clay'' regarding Vetinari's poisoning:

** There's a scene in ''{{Discworld/Jingo}}'' where Vimes and Angua have a conversation about how she's sort of like Carrot's dog and Vimes is "Vetinari's terrier", creating an implied comparison between her relationship with Carrot and Vimes' relationship with Vetinari. And Angua drops in a comparison between Vetinari and Carrot in a manner suggesting that Vimes is the expert on Vetinari in the same way that she's the expert on Carrot. Somehow the whole thing just manages to come across like you could quite naturally assume Vimes and Vetinari are in a relationship and Angua is thinking of giving Vimes some relationship advice.

** Drumkott's function in the books is as a sounding-board for Vetinari to talk in a relatively open, neutral and honest way (since in his dealings with every active character, from Vimes to Ridcully, there's always an element of manipulation going on). The result on the page is that Vetinari comes across as being quite close and trusting towards his secretary. Drumknott in turn is utterly loyal and attentive to Vetinari's habits, to the point that in ''{{Discworld/Snuff}}'' it's mentioned that most people would consider Drumknott's ability to interpret his master's thoughts as 'magic'.

* In [[SweetPollyOliver Monstrous Regiment]], Tonker and Lofty are text, albeit small text.

* ''Snuff'' introduces a pair of background characters who have a suspiciously Virginia Woolf and Vita Sackville-West aura about them (the book is one long string of shout-outs to English rural novelists and poets). It is perhaps legitimate in this context to return to ''Soul Music'' and re-appraise the characters of spinster schoolmistresses Miss Butts and Miss Delcross, who very carefully cultivate an aura of never having married because they are dedicated to the girls they teach at the upscale Quirm Academy for Young Ladies. Running the Disc's premier boarding school for girls, they can therefore live together and attract no suspicion.

* The restaurant scene in the film of ''GoingPostal'' shows Gilt looming over Moist in a rather creepy way. Adora looks at them in horror and sputters "You ... and him?"
* As of ''Moving Pictures'', the Unseen University is "run" by Archchancellor Ridcully, who spends all of his time shooting or shouting at things. He and the Bursar share a relationship very evocative of the HenpeckedHusband trope, with Ridcully ordering around the much meeker Bursar, whilst the Bursar just tries to keep Ridcully in check.
* In ''{{Discworld/Hogfather}}'', Ridcully questions the Senior Wrangler as to why they've got mistletoe at their Hogswatch party when there are no women. The Senior Wrangler says that inviting women would "spoil everything" and gets quite evasive about what the point is of having mistletoe. When wassailers show up, the Senior Wrangler says, "I personally have always liked 'The Lily-white Boys', you know," and Ridcully gives him a "sharp look". In short, the Senior Wrangler definitely wants to kiss his fellow [[AlwaysMale wizards]].
* Apparently Vimes would like to be married to this nice old colonel he's just made friends with (in ''{{Discworld/Snuff}}''):

* In ''Hogfather'': maybe just meant to be creepy rather than Ho Yay, but did anybody else notice how Teatime's attacking Medium Dave was phrased in the book? "And then Teatime was on him, pushing him irresistibly backwards until he hit the wall." Something about Teatime (possibly his AffablyEvil-ness) in the TV adaptation always made me think this scene seemed a lot like a rape scene.

* In ''Hogfather'': maybe just meant to be creepy rather than Ho Yay, but did anybody else notice how Teatime's attacking Medium Dave was phrased in the book? "And then Teatime was on him, pushing him irresistibly backwards until he hit the wall." Something about Teatime (possibly his AffablyEvil-ness) in the tv adaptation always made me think this scene seemed a lot like a rape scene..

* As of "Moving Pictures", the Unseen University is "run" by Archchancellor Ridcully, who spends all of his time shooting or shouting at things. He and the Bursar share a relationship very evocative of the HenpeckedHusband trope, with Ridcully ordering around the much meeker Bursar, whilst the Bursar just tries to keep Ridcully in check.

* There's also Leonard of Quirm, drawing men with careful attention to their muscles, measuring Colon's "saddlery regions". Given that he's an AffectionateParody of Leonardo da Vinci, who himself was a bit... iffy, this isn't completely surprising.

* In ''Hogfather'': maybe just meant to be creepy rather than Ho Yay, but did anybody else notice how Teatime's attacking Medium Dave was phrased in the book? "And then Teatime was on him, pushing him irresistibly backwards until he hit the wall." Something about Teatime (possibly his AffablyEvil-ness) in the tv adaptation always made me think this scene seemed a lot like a rape scene. However, Teatime acts very similarly towards Susan, so he's probably not gay. Probably.

* In ''{{Discworld/Hogfather}}'', Ridcully questions the Senior Wrangler as to why they've got mistletoe at their Hogswatch party when there are no women. The Senior Wrangler says that inviting women would "spoil everything" and gets quite evasive about what the point is of having mistletoe. When wassailers show up, the Senior Wrangler says, "I personally have always liked 'The Lily-white Boys', you know," and Ridcully gives him a "sharp look". In short, the Senior Wrangler definitely wants to kiss his fellow [[AlwaysMale wizards]].

** There's a scene in ''{{Discworld/Jingo}}'' where Vimes and Angua have a conversation about how she's sort of like Carrot's dog and Vimes is "Vetinari's terrier", creating an implied comparison between her relationship with Carrot and Vimes' relationship with Vetinari. And Angua drops in a comparison between Vetinari and Carrot in a manner suggesting that Vimes is the expert on Vetinari in the same way that she's the expert on Carrot.

** There's a scene in ''{{Discworld/Jingo}}'' where Vimes and Angua have a conversation about how she's sort of like Carrot's dog and Vimes is "Vetinari's terrier". It ends up coming across like they're venting about their respective love lives. And Angua drops in a comparison between Vetinari and Carrot in a manner suggesting that Vimes is the expert on Vetinari in the same way that she's the expert on Carrot.

** In ''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals'', Vetinari mentions that Drumkott would probably only be interested in 'a young lady prepared to dress up as a manilla envelope', which Drumknott later rather confirms by showing interest in Lady Margolotta's equally stationary-obsessed librarian. However, this has not been alluded to since, and happened in what could be interpreted as a rough patch between Vetinari and Drumknott...

* In ''{{Discworld/Hogfather}}'', Ridcully questions the Senior Wrangler as to why they've got mistletoe at their Hogswatch party when there are no women. The Senior Wrangler says that inviting women would "spoil everything" and gets quite evasive about what the point is of having mistletoe, and when wassailers show up says, "I personally have always liked 'The Lily-white Boys', you know," and Ridcully gives him a "sharp look". In short, the Senior Wrangler definitely wants to kiss his fellow [[AlwaysMale wizards]].