History Headscratchers / Xenosaga

** While this troper can't talk for others, the complaints I have against this game mostly involve the voice acting and the very drastic changes in character models. Coming straight off ''Xenosaga 1'', ''2'' not only changed a lot of the voice actors, but they also didn't emote very well. Even KOS-MOS, with her normally emotionless voice, sounded completely off. The characters themselves almost drifted into UncannyValley territoy with the sudden change from anime-esque style to "Waaaayyy too real looking". That being said, the gameplay WAS solid. But as mentioned they dumped you right into a dungeon and the atmosphere just felt off.

* Why did Dimitri Yuriev only create 669 URTVs? I mean, I get that 666-669 had to be the variants because 666 equaling the devil and everything, but he could have made more AFTER the variants. Also, the Episode III mentions that there were other female URTVs made, but Citrine was one of the only ones that worked properly. This shows that he originally created MORE, but was apparently too lazy to make new ones., which is bad when you're going up against ''the entire URTV force that was established on Militia''. It's no wonder that [[spoiler: All the vanilla URTVs got infected and/or killed, leaving the four variants left alive!]] A 669 man insurgence group would obviously fail against the government and it's army! It's amazing that the four variants miraciously survived that invasion too.

** Also the fact that they are URTVs (created by Yuriev, bioweapons, military force during the Miltian conflict) probably wouldn't have sit well with the citizens.
* The BrickJoke involving ES Asher's cannon from Xenosaga II that plays out in Xenosaga III. The problem is, the A.M.W.S. it was impaled into and the cannon itself quite visibly ''blow up'' in Xenosaga II.

* What was with the T-ELOS v KOS-MOS competitive test at the beginning of Xenosage III? T-ELOS proves herself by wiping out a horde of Gnosis. KOS-MOS fails to prove herself when going up against an AMWS more than ten times her size. These are not comparable tests. If they were looking for an anti-Gnosis system, both gynoids should have been sent against Gnosis. If they were looking for an anti-AMWS system, both should have been set up against comparable AMWS machines. Proving that T-ELOS is better at task A than KOS-MOS is at unrelated task B proves nothing about the relative worth of the two systems. Any weapons developer who lost a contract on the grounds of a poorly designed trial demonstration like that would challenge the decision - and have a good chance of winning that challenge.

** Its bcause y data is telling you the future and what shion realy is.
* Even though WordOfGod states that thanks to nanotechnology, the people in the Xenosaga-verse have lifespans that last for hundreds of years, why do the people you meet in Episode II during GS Campaigning all have their ages listed as something average? As in, they wouldn't be out of place with our life spans right now (such as 16, 42, 8, etc. etc.). Surely one of those people should have thier age listed as something like "367"? Or did all the people Shion and Co. help while GS Campaigning just very luckily be under the age of 90?

* In Xenosaga 3, when Albedo and Dimitri are in their first scene togther, Albedo says something about Dimitri being controlled by this "power"... Like he once was. What's the power and what did Albedo mean by "like he once was"? Was he repenting or was he just messing with our heads?

* Why do people say that Xenosaga ended the planned multiple-games epic that Xenogears was setting up? Or rather, why is it impossible for them to be canon with each other? Whenever I play through the games, it really does seem like it can play out well, with [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles Blade]] at the start of the timeline, followed by Saga, with [[XenoGears Gears]] at the end. There are certainly no contradictions, and even the trailers for Xenoblade X look like they'll be covering the evacuation of earth- an important plot point in all three- so why is it impossible?
** I keep hearing two different things: Xenogears is part 5, or that the series is a reimagination of Xenogears. What I think it is is that Xenogears is part 5, but because it is owned by Square (and Saga is under Namco), Harada technically cannot promote or have the series associated with another company's game. (This is mere speculation!)
*** Xenogears was Episode 5 in a 6 series plan. According to Perfect Works, Episode 1 was about an intergalactic war, Episode II was the Eldridge crash / creation of first humans, III was Zeboim and IV was the Shevat/Solaris War. VI was left a mystery but it sounds like it would be about Lost Jerusalem.

** While this troper can't talk for others, the complaints I have against this game mostly involve the voice acting and the very drastic changes in character models. COming straight off Xenosaga 1, 2 not only changed a lot of the voice actors, but they also didn't emote very well. Even KOS-MOS, with her normally emotionless voice, sounded completely off. The characters themselves almost drifted into UncannyValley territoy with the sudden change from anime-esque style to "Waaaayyy too real looking". That being said, the gameplay WAS solid. But as mentioned they dumped you right into a dungeon and the atmosphere just felt off.
** Arguably the biggest issues with the game are that the Battle system is very slow, and the game is full of Padding. After the initial two dungeons you pretty much HAVE to stock and break combo every enemy to do decent damage, which leads to nearly every battle lasting a very long time as you sit there stocking over and over. All the main dungeons are also very long, full of backtracking and long corridors of walking, the Ormus stronghold dungeon is arguably complete filler (and was removed from the Xenosaga I&II version of the story), and the GS side quests are full of constant backtracking as well. Also, every character has access to the exact same spells and abilities in the skill tree, so they end up being less differentiated than the other games, or most RPGs.

* What's up with the ending where Nephilim ages up out of nowhere? Is there more to it than a reference to Xenogears?

** Wilhelm and Roth Mantel (or his alter ego) had likely planned for that to happen so KOS-MOS could be put back in the hands of the party so that their ''Xanatos Gambit'' could continue. Furthermore KOS-MOS can't be mass-produced because the only people capable of designing KOS-MOS or T-elos were Kevin and Shion, and Shion could only do it after reverse-engineering the prototype KOS-MOS, so in-universe it's far beyond the capabilities of the others. The headscratcher there is: why?

* Why do people say that Xenosaga ended the planned multiple-games epic that Xenogears was setting up? Or rather, why is it impossible for them to be canon with each other? Whenever I play through the games, it really does seem like it can play out well, with [[XenobladeChronicles Blade]] at the start of the timeline, followed by Saga, with [[XenoGears Gears]] at the end. There are certainly no contradictions, and even the trailers for Xenoblade X look like they'll be covering the evacuation of earth- an important plot point in all three- so why is it impossible?

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** I keep hearing two different things: Xenogears is part 5, or that it is a reimagination of Xenogears. What I think it is is that Xenogears is part 5, but because it is owned by Square (and Saga is under Namco), Harada technically cannot promote or have the series associated with another company's game. (This is mere speculation!)

** I liked the game. The battle system required strategy, it seems RPG gamers are just too lazy to do that and just want to hit x to attack and didn't bother to understand the system. What was annoying for sure, is MOMO's subconscous. Too many enemies and they did not give you enough dungeons/enemies to be strong enough against them.

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* Why do people say that Xenosaga ended the planned multiple-games epic that Xenogears was setting up? Or rather, why is it impossible for them to be canon with each other? Whenever I play through the games, it really does seem like it can play out well, with [[Xenoblade Blade]] at the start of the timeline, followed by Saga, with [[Xenogears Gears]] at the end. There are certainly no contradictions, and even the trailers for Xenoblade X look like they'll be covering the evacuation of earth- an important plot point in all three- so why is it impossible?