History Headscratchers / WinnieThePooh

** A cople of things:

!!Books

!!Disney film

!!! Somewhat unrelated

** I don't remember that exact line, but [[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bonhomie "bonhomie"]] is an English word borrowed from Frendh, so the joke is that he's using the word to define itself. (Something like, to use more common words, "Rendezvous: a French word meaning rendezvous." or "Cul-de-sac: a French word meaning cul-de-sac")

* Maybe there's some reference or whatever I just don't get, but what does Eeyore ''mean'' when he says, "Bonhommy. French word meaning bonhommy. Joke, haha."?

** They don't interact (and it doesn't seem like Christopher Robin even notices Gopher is there), but they do briefly appear in the same scene at the same time twice in ''Disney/TheManyAdventuresOfWinnieThePooh.'' First at the end of the ''Honey Tree'' segment, where everyone's trying to pull Pooh out of Rabbit's door, then the second time during the ''Hip Hip Pooh-Ray'' song in the ''Blustery Day'' segment.

* So since the events of ''Disney/PoohsHeffalumpMovie'', we know that heffalumps exist. We also learn from one of the movies that backsons exist (but they're not evil and Christopher Robin wasn't writing about one). However, do woozles, wizzles, and jagulars exist?

** Well, while the Heffalumps get by far the most attention, the ''New Adventures'' cartoon does establish that Woozles are real as well -- a devious and thieving Woozle named Stan appears in a couple of episodes together with his friend Heff the Heffalump. A "Wizzle" has been theorized, but not actually confirmed, to simply be a young Woozle. No word on Jagulars, though.

* So since the events of ''Disney/PoohsHeffalumpMovie'', we know that heffalumps exist. We also learn from one of the movies that backsons exist (but they're not evil and Christopher Robin wasn't writing about one). However, do woozles, wizzles, and jagulars exist?

** The Disney version seems to flip-flop a bit on the subject, but all in all? He's a real rabbit. When the original books were written, the only two characters who were ''not'' based on Christopher Robin Milne's stuffed toys were Owl and Rabbit; they were instead based on real forest animals. (In ''The House of Pooh Corner'' Rabbit even briefly provides a ShoutOut to this fact when he claims that he and Owl are the only ones capable of real thought because they have real brains, and the others just have fluff or sawdust.)

* Imagination. He's not really eating.

** The Disney version seems to flip-flop a bit on the subject, but all in all? He's a real rabbit. When
when the original books were written, the only two characters who were ''not'' based on Christopher Robin Milne's stuffed toys were Owl and Rabbit; they were instead based on real forest animals. (In ''The House of Pooh Corner'' Rabbit even briefly provides a ShoutOut to this fact when he claims that he and Owl are the only ones capable of real thought because they have real brains, and the others just have fluff or sawdust.)

* Is Rabbit even a real rabbit or a stuffed toy like Tigger and Pooh are? "The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" implies it's the latter but what is it? He doesn't even resemble a stuffed toy!

** It does not completely originate from Tigger (it's older than the Pooh movie), however chances are most people that use it txting got it from hearing Tigger say it before txting was a thing. The current oldest known use is British WWII Soldiers, so dating as far back at the end of the 1930s.

** In the "A Winnie The Pooh Thanksgiving", Gopher and Christopher Robin were both at the thanksgiving feast at the end.

** They don't interact (and it doesn't seem like Christopher Robin even notices Gopher is there), but they do briefly appear in the same scene at the same time twice in ''TheManyAdventuresOfWinnieThePooh.'' First at the end of the ''Honey Tree'' segment, where everyone's trying to pull Pooh out of Rabbit's door, then the second time during the ''Hip Hip Pooh-Ray'' song in the ''Blustery Day'' segment.

* I know that in some movie or tv show from the more recent adaptations of Pooh, Tigger leaves people with "TTFN! Tata For Now!" Since this was or is one of many abbreviations for texting, did Tigger popularize the acronym, or was the acronym become used by Tigger?

** FridgeBrilliance! Christopher Robin was a real person who came up with many aspects of the Pooh stories himself. Walt Disney came up with Gopher ("I'm not in the book!") So while Disney, taking A.A. Milne's characters for a whirl, can introduce them to his own character, Christopher Robin can't meet Gopher, since he never thought of Gopher himself.

** FridgeBrilliance! Christopher Robin was a real person who came up with many aspects of the Pooh stories himself. Disney came up with Gopher ("I'm not in the book!") So while Disney, taking A.A. Milne's characters for a whirl, can introduce them to his own character, Christopher Robin can't meet Gopher, since he never thought of Gopher himself.

** They don't interact (and it doesn't seem like Christopher Robin even notices Gopher is there), but they do briefly appear in the same scene at the same time twice in ''TheManyAdventuresOfWinnieThePooh.'' First at the end of the ''Honey Tree'' segment, where everyone's trying to pull Pooh out of Rabbit's door, then the second time during the ''Hip Hip Pooh-Ray'' song in the ''Blustery Day'' segment.

** They don't interact (and it doesn't seem like Christopher Robin even notices Gopher is there), but they do briefly appear in the same scene at the same time twice in ''TheManyAdventuresofWinnieThePooh.'' First at the end of the ''Honey Tree'' segment, where everyone's trying to pull Pooh out of Rabbit's door, then the second time during the ''Hip Hip Pooh-Ray'' song in the ''Blustery Day'' segment.

* I don't know about the rest of you, but have you ever seen Christopher Robin and Gopher in the same scene at the same time, or even interact with one another?

!!!Why?
* ''Why?'' Why is ''this'' being made at all? This may possibly be the last traditionally animated movie Disney does for a while, why make it a reboot of a series that's been rebooted about a million and six times? This is a series thats been animated (traditionally and in CGI), done in live-action suits, puppet-ed, written in books, even comics, was ''ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' such a bomb that they felt the only way they could get enough funding for a new 2D movie was to make it about characters that have millions of sources to trace over?
** Winnie the Pooh is a franchise, rather than a series. It sounds overly specific, but compare it with a property like Batman (a strange comparison, but hear me out). There are numerous animated series and movies based on the Batman franchise, each considered very popular, but at the top of the pile are the live-action movies which are few and far-between in comparison. While Pooh seems like he never went away thanks to all of his TV shows and Disney Toon Studios movies, he hasn't been given an appearance in the DisneyAnimatedCanon since 1977. The very fact that he has more series to his name than I can care to list is exactly why they're making the film: it's a chance to take the franchise back to basics, returning to A.A. Milne's original stories and the art-style/story mechanics of the original shorts.
** To put it another way: YMMV. There are people who hate the way the Pooh franchise has been handled by Disney and this movie could be taken as the follow-up they've been eagerly awaiting.