History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds

* How come none of Hyrule’s sages have counterparts in Lorule? The Fridge page suggests this is because with no Triforce, there’s no need for the sages. But what about the actual characters? The lack of Triforce couldn’t have caused them to not be born, and Gulley’s parents, Seres’ father, and Irene’s grandmother all have their counterparts in Lorule — meaning the lineage of the sages must still exist there.

*** This seems to be the best answer. The Triforce of Power was being held by Ganon, and Zelda had Wisdom, but there wasn't a Link to inherit Courage yet, so the Triforce piece went to the Sacred Realm for safekeeping. Once the current Link proved that he was worthy of wielding it (in this case, by rescuing the Sages), they were able to give it to him.

** It's simpler than that, even. We see that the crack in the Sacred Realm leads to its analog in the other world. Yuga traveled through the crack between Sacred Realms and arrived in Hyrule's Sacred Realm to find the intact Hyrulean Triforce. When he touched it, it broke into its constituent pieces, and he was left with the Triforce of Power only. It was only at this point that he involved Hilda in an attempt to gain the missing two pieces.
** A few problems with that explanation...First off, it's highly unlikely that Yuga would get the Triforce of Power through this method, since, contrasting Ganon, he's a weakling who relies on his painting powers to get the job done, and given his excessive arrogance and pride, it's more than likely the Triforce of Courage is what he'd end up with. Even if he ''did'' have the Triforce of Power, though, then he would've had no need to travel across Hyrule trapping the sages in portraits to be used to resurrect the Demon King. Third, the Triforce, as far as the timeline shows, couldn't be found in the Sacred Realm prior to the events of this game - it had been kept and used by the Hyrulean Royal Family in order to govern their kingdom fairly and properly.

** When the Sages send Link away from the Sacred Realm, look at the poses they strike. They do almost the exact same poses as the Sages in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' do when they seal away Ganon. From this and their appearances/dungeons they're in, it can be deduced which ALBW Sage descends from which [=OoT=] Sage.
---> Osfala = Rauru
---> Seres = Saria
---> Rosso = Darunia
---> Oren = Ruto
---> Impa = Impa
---> Irene = Nabooru
** Now, the seventh Sage in [=OoT=] and [=ALttP=] was Zelda. But here, it is Gulley, and Zelda is no longer a Sage. How can Gulley be the sucessor to the [=OoT=] / [=ALttP=] Zelda? Well... who does Gulley look like? Gulley has green clothes, a green pointy hat, blond hair, and blue eyes. He looks like Link. Who is to say that the Link and Zelda from ALttP didn't have a child together? Somewhere down the line, the descendants of [=ALttP=] Zelda and Link split off. One branch stayed in the royal family, and would birth ALBW Zelda, wielder of the Triforce of Wisdom. The other branch went to live among the common people, and became blacksmiths. This branch birthed Gulley. Gulley holds both the blood of Link, making him look like Link, and the blood of Zelda, making him the seventh Sage. The Sage powers seem to hold a priority for the youngest person currently in that bloodline, and since Gulley is younger than Zelda, he became the seventh Sage. That is why Zelda isn't a sage in ALBW.
** I thought Gulley was meant to match up with Saria - he's a young child, has a green color scheme, has a deep connection with forest creatures, and is apparently good friends with Link.
** I agree with the above poster--I think Gulley is Saria's counterpart, which means that Seres is descended from the Zelda of ''Ocarina of Time''. There's even a connection based on their color scheme: Seres has a cyan/light blue motif, and the Zelda from ''Ocarina'' was somewhat associated with that. She originally kept the titular Ocarina--which was light blue--herself; the Song of Time, which she teaches, is used to manipulate light blue Time Blocks; and she held the Triforce of Wisdom, which is tied to the light-blue-themed Nayru.
** Maybe the priest and his daughter who occupy the sanctuary are also descended from Hyrule's royal family, just not the direct line. Seres is implied to be older than the Zelda of her time (since she's the love interest of the guard captain, who's obviously older than Link), so she could've inherited the previous Zelda's role as leader of the sages despite not also inheriting the throne.

** The Sages didn't have the Triforce of Courage. Link did all along. It just required the Sages to unlock it so it couldn't be misused.
** It doesn't seem like that could be, though. If Link had the Triforce of Courage, and it had to be awakened from within his own self, then there wouldn't have been any way for Ravio to have obtained it before Link (inadvertently) took up his role in Hilda's scheme.
** It's specifically said, by the last Sage you rescue, that they need to combine their powers to recover the Triforce of Courage from its hiding place. Presumably, they had to do so willingly, which is why it couldn't be magicked out of them as the Triforce of Power was.

** Maybe their Triforce being destroyed is what caused normal enemies to mutate into their Dark World counterparts, and the Octorok at the derby was the only one who hadn't been transformed yet? Plus, Slarok-o-ball doesn't exactly have as nice a ring to it, in my opinion.

** The reason she survived was most likely that she wasn't truly fused with Yuga-Ganon, as she was merely absorbed into Yuga-Ganon's body. Hilda was in the form of a painting at the time, so she was a work of magical art when she was absorbed, meaning her physical body wasn't present and was converted into a magical painting that was on a frame. Her power was what was absorbed, and Yuga's paintings are mostly not easy to damage, and such paintings cannot feel anything or be damaged. When Yuga-Ganon was destroyed, all of the paintings returned to normal, as the soldiers and captain in Hyrule along with Zelda herself were released from their painting forms and reverted to their physical bodies. The same applied to Hilda who was a painting when she was absorbed, and so reverted to her physical body when Yuga-Ganon was destroyed.

** The walls are probably pretty thick in that room, and Link himself is a work of magical art. Yuga's paintings probably don't deteriorate at all unless the walls they've been merged with are destroyed.
** The walls are likely extremely hard as well, and Knucklemaster stuns itself because the wall's hardness is so strong that it knocks itself out hard. Considering the wall is made of hard brick, Knucklemaster is basically punching hard brick, which hurts if it is punched really hard, and is also extremely durable and hard to do damage to itself. Brick walls themselves tend to be quite difficult to destroy.

** Its been speculated that the trio from Lorule don't merely lack a certain attribute from those in Hyrule, but in fact favor another attribute. Hilda certainly could line up well with Power. She may possibly be more powerful than Yuga initially, before he does some crazy things to gain more power, like merging with Ganon. Of course, it could also be a matter of willingness, as Hilda was desperately searching for a way to save Lorule.

** Well, as one of the Seven Sages, Irene ''did'' "take care" of Link--she assisted in summoning the Triforce of Courage, which gave Link the ability to defeat Yuganon and save Lorule. And if she hadn't done that, a disaster ''would'' befall her and everyone else in Hyrule: the theft of their Triforce and gradual destruction of their world.

** Rauru is called the "last of the ancient Sages"--presumably, there was an original set of seven who came into being between ''Skyward Sword'' and the other games, but by the time of ''Ocarina'', he's the only one left. We know that the Sages aren't immortal: in ''Wind Waker'', Ganondorf summons monsters who kill the Sages of Earth and Wind, and in ''Twilight Princess'', he personally executes the Sage of Water at the Arbiter's Grounds. In Rauru's case, it's possible that after centuries--or even millennia--of fulfilling his duties, the gods finally decided to let him die, or at least AscendToAHigherPlaceOfExistence. As for where Osfala came from, my best guess is that Rauru either started a family ''before'' becoming a Sage, and those descendants live on, or he was preserved from aging during his time in the Sacred Realm and, before finally moving on to the next world, he was able--or even ordered--to go out and father a child.