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* On that note, am I wrong or is the series misusing the term "handmaiden"? Handmaiden, both in real history and, if memory serves, in Westeros, implies low social status, surely lower that would be suitable for a nobleman's daughter. Mira's position should be more properly termed "lady-in-waiting", right?

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*** In the end, Asher gets his warriors by promising them a cut of plunder, which seems to satisfy them.


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*** Well, it was for Gared, for reasons totally unrelated to North Grove.


** I think at some point in episode two they mentioned that all of the actual sellsword armies they know of are currently employed, so they don't have the choice of getting professional sellswords. It is possible that there are more armies, but they are most likely too far away for Asher to be able to reach them in a reasonable amount of time.

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** I think at some point in episode two they mentioned that all of the actual sellsword armies they know of are currently employed, so they don't have the choice of getting professional sellswords. It is possible that there are more armies, but they are most likely too far away for Asher to be able to reach them in a reasonable amount of time.time.
** It's not impractical in the hands of a commander who can adequately predict or choose the battlefield to maximize his advantage. When you ambush Whitehill inside the hold, you are doing exactly that, confining his men to more restricted environments where one pitfighter can slaughter soldiers piecemeal.

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** Becoming a Ranger of the Night's Watch is the only way you're going to venture beyond the wall. Technically you could perhaps sail around it, or climb over like the Wildlings, but for Gared and most people that is not an option. Betraying the Night's Watch was really the only option while Lord Whitehill had it in for Gared.


* okay, it is safe to assume that the Forresters expect to go into a true war with the Whitehills, their greatest hope of winning is getting an army of sellswords in order to make up for their lost army, correct? The problem is, Asher hire some Pit fighters instead of a real professional Sellsword army? Pit fighters are good in one on one fights, but the upcoming battles that they are expected to fight in the Forresters' service aren't going to be 1 on 1 battle, they are going to be 10 on 1 battles, which is no doubt [[spoiler: one of the biggest reasons why Ironrath falls. Asher hire some AwesomeButImpractical fighters instead of those who really would help in a long-term war]]. Is he really that much of a fool, or does he just trust Beskha a little bit too much?

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* okay, it is safe to assume that the Forresters expect to go into a true war with the Whitehills, their greatest hope of winning is getting an army of sellswords in order to make up for their lost army, correct? The problem is, Asher hire some Pit fighters instead of a real professional Sellsword army? Pit fighters are good in one on one fights, but the upcoming battles that they are expected to fight in the Forresters' service aren't going to be 1 on 1 battle, they are going to be 10 on 1 battles, which is no doubt [[spoiler: one of the biggest reasons why Ironrath falls. Asher hire some AwesomeButImpractical fighters instead of those who really would help in a long-term war]]. Is he really that much of a fool, or does he just trust Beskha a little bit too much?much?
** I think at some point in episode two they mentioned that all of the actual sellsword armies they know of are currently employed, so they don't have the choice of getting professional sellswords. It is possible that there are more armies, but they are most likely too far away for Asher to be able to reach them in a reasonable amount of time.

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** These are actually two separate events. Elaena makes mention of it having been a few weeks. The timeline of the game, just like the books and show, is much more accelerated than it first appears. Which still raises the question, what were they doing the night before that her clothing was elsewhere in the holdfast?

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** These are actually two separate events. Elaena makes mention of it having been a few weeks. The timeline of the game, just like the books and show, is much more accelerated than it first appears. Which still raises the question, what were they doing the night before that her clothing was elsewhere in the holdfast?holdfast?
* okay, it is safe to assume that the Forresters expect to go into a true war with the Whitehills, their greatest hope of winning is getting an army of sellswords in order to make up for their lost army, correct? The problem is, Asher hire some Pit fighters instead of a real professional Sellsword army? Pit fighters are good in one on one fights, but the upcoming battles that they are expected to fight in the Forresters' service aren't going to be 1 on 1 battle, they are going to be 10 on 1 battles, which is no doubt [[spoiler: one of the biggest reasons why Ironrath falls. Asher hire some AwesomeButImpractical fighters instead of those who really would help in a long-term war]]. Is he really that much of a fool, or does he just trust Beskha a little bit too much?

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** Actually, it is made very clear that the Whitehills have 10 times the men the Forresters have


** It's possible that the traitor ''was'' steadfastly loyal to the Forresters when Gregor was Lord, but became increasingly disillusioned and bitter when Ethan did not make him Sentinel. The traitor may have seen betraying the Forresters as a way to gain the power and recognition he feels Ethan unjustly refused him, albeit while serving a different House. The reasons he gives to Rodrik for betraying the House are therefore simple excuses for his lust for power. Alternatively, the traitor could have genuinely believed that Rodrik was leading the House to ruin, and decided to cut his losses and join the Whitehills while he still could.

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** It's possible that the traitor ''was'' steadfastly loyal to the Forresters when Gregor was Lord, but became increasingly disillusioned and bitter when Ethan did not make him Sentinel. The traitor may have seen betraying the Forresters as a way to gain the power and recognition he feels Ethan unjustly refused him, albeit while serving a different House. The reasons he gives to Rodrik for betraying the House are therefore simple excuses for his lust for power. Alternatively, the traitor could have genuinely believed that Rodrik was leading the House to ruin, and decided to cut his losses and join the Whitehills while he still could.could.

* For a pig farmer turned squire, Gared is ''absurdly'' badass at least by [[RealityEnsues GoT standards]]. He should have had no more martial training than Podrick, but routinely wipes the floor with several much more experienced opponents ''at a time''. This sticks out like a sore thumb as he is otherwise a more or less salt-of-the-earth peasant and acts like it.
** At the beginning of episode one, Lord Forrester promotes Gared to a full-on warrior, no longer a squire. The Northmen don't have knights, since Knighthood is connected to the Faith of the Seven, but Gared is thus on an equivalent level to a newly-minted Knight, Trained in martial combat for years and recognized as a capable warrior. He was born a pig farmer, but it's made clear in dialogue that he won the peasant lottery of life by managing to get taken as a squire by the Lord and getting this training as a proper soldier. Squires get one-on-one in-depth martial training. Peasant militia soldiers, such as the likes of Britt and many Night's Watchmen, get a weapon shoved in their hand - perhaps the first time in their life - and do basic drills under a master at arms. It's no stretch that a squire whose training is complete would be a much more effective combatant than the average man-jack with a sword.
** Also, Podrick is not exactly a typical squire, having poor training before we meet him, and then serving Tyrion Lannister, who is by no means a warrior capable of training him in combat.
* Where exactly did Eleana and Roderick [[spoiler: have [[SexForSolace comfort sex]] after Arthur's death]] that she had to get up with the bedsheets to go find her clothing? She walks out of the room in nothing but a sheet.
** These are actually two separate events. Elaena makes mention of it having been a few weeks. The timeline of the game, just like the books and show, is much more accelerated than it first appears. Which still raises the question, what were they doing the night before that her clothing was elsewhere in the holdfast?

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** Well now we at least know that it has both a source of renewal for the ironwood trees, a small yet very dangerous army, and another potential lord (which is helpful, since they're dropping like flies). Still, betraying the Night's Watch is very risky, and I question if joining them was truly necessary.


** I'm a little confused about the Knight Sentinel thing myself. As Castellan, Duncan should be the guy in charge of the castle because that's what a ****ing Castellan is. It's in the name. As Master of Arms, it's Royland's job to be in charge of the Forrester's military forces. You don't really need someone above either. That's what the Lord is for.

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** I'm a little confused about the Knight Sentinel thing myself. As Castellan, Duncan should be the guy in charge of the castle because that's what a ****ing Castellan is. It's in the name. As Master of Arms, it's Royland's job to be in charge of the Forrester's military forces. You don't really need someone above either. That's what the Lord is for.


** The fact that the Forresters are a ForestRanger family, this might indicate that they worship the old gods, as would their northern heritage and loyalty to the Umbers and, thus, the Starks.
*** Just to be a bit of a stickler, the Forresters are loyal to the Glovers as their direct lieges below the Starks, not the Umbers.

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** The fact that the Forresters are a ForestRanger family, this might indicate that they worship the old gods, as would their northern heritage and loyalty to the Umbers Glovers and, thus, the Starks.
*** Just to be a bit of a stickler, the Forresters are loyal to the Glovers as their direct lieges below the Starks, not the Umbers.
Starks.


* The North Grove must never fall Gared. I know it could be a giant grove of ironwood trees or an ancient fortress but Gared i need you to sneak off from the night's watch who will then name you traitor and carry it back to Ironrath on your back.

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* The North Grove must never fall Gared. I know it could be a giant grove of ironwood trees or an ancient fortress but Gared i I need you to sneak off from the night's watch who will then name you traitor and carry it back to Ironrath on your back.



* I'm confused about something. The traitor, no matter who it is, says that Rodrik has been making House Forrester look weak. However, the traitor has actively been working against House Forrester to weaken the House's position. So...they are justifying their work to damage and/or destroy House Forrester by saying Rodrik is already doing it. I don't get this. [[InsaneTrollLogic Insane Troll Logic]], much?

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* I'm confused about something. The traitor, no matter who it is, says that Rodrik has been making House Forrester look weak. However, the traitor has actively been working against House Forrester to weaken the House's position. So...they are justifying their work to damage and/or destroy House Forrester by saying Rodrik is already doing it. I don't get this. [[InsaneTrollLogic Insane Troll Logic]], much?much?
** It's possible that the traitor ''was'' steadfastly loyal to the Forresters when Gregor was Lord, but became increasingly disillusioned and bitter when Ethan did not make him Sentinel. The traitor may have seen betraying the Forresters as a way to gain the power and recognition he feels Ethan unjustly refused him, albeit while serving a different House. The reasons he gives to Rodrik for betraying the House are therefore simple excuses for his lust for power. Alternatively, the traitor could have genuinely believed that Rodrik was leading the House to ruin, and decided to cut his losses and join the Whitehills while he still could.


** I think we're SUPPOSED to take away from these scenes that Duncan isn't as competent as he appears to be.

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** I think we're SUPPOSED to take away from these scenes that Duncan isn't as competent as he appears to be.be.
* I'm confused about something. The traitor, no matter who it is, says that Rodrik has been making House Forrester look weak. However, the traitor has actively been working against House Forrester to weaken the House's position. So...they are justifying their work to damage and/or destroy House Forrester by saying Rodrik is already doing it. I don't get this. [[InsaneTrollLogic Insane Troll Logic]], much?


* The North Grove must never fall Gared. I know it could be a giant grove of ironwood trees or an ancient fortress but Gared i need you to sneak off from the night's watch who will then name you traitor and carry it back to Ironrath on your back.

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* The North Grove must never fall Gared. I know it could be a giant grove of ironwood trees or an ancient fortress but Gared i need you to sneak off from the night's watch who will then name you traitor and carry it back to Ironrath on your back.back.
** I think we're SUPPOSED to take away from these scenes that Duncan isn't as competent as he appears to be.

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