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*** There's also an answer provided by an episode of the reimagined ''Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined'' that also helps to explain why it's appealing for military use. In one episode, Athena (a humanoid Cylon) explains that when it comes to the Raiders, they have the ability to download. To paraphrase what she says to fit the context of why the S.A.I.N.T. robots are appealing is this: It takes time to train a soldier to make them physically fit and well verse in weaponry for combat. If they are killed, they are gone (along with that knowledge). However, when it comes to the S.A.I.N.T. robots, they're already ready to go and if they're lost, they're easily replaceable and battle ready in a much shorter time than it takes to train a human being.
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*** There's also an answer provided by an episode of the reimagined ''Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined'' ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' that also helps to explain why it's appealing for military use. In one episode, Athena (a humanoid Cylon) explains that when it comes to the Raiders, they have the ability to download. To paraphrase what she says to fit the context of why the S.A.I.N.T. robots are appealing is this: It takes time to train a soldier to make them physically fit and well verse in weaponry for combat. If they are killed, they are gone (along with that knowledge). However, when it comes to the S.A.I.N.T. robots, they're already ready to go and if they're lost, they're easily replaceable and battle ready in a much shorter time than it takes to train a human being.
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*** Wait, you said they took Number 4 with them in the van? I know they say "he built a duplicate of himself from all his spare parts" which then got blown up by the helicopter... but what if he [[FridgeHorror just took off 4's identifying marks and mouthguard]]... Not so family-friendly.
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** The fact that all of the robots have a sight-like notch cut out of their right upper eyelid seems to reinforce that this is part of the targeting sequence.
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** The fact that all of the robots have a sight-like notch cut out of their right left upper eyelid seems to reinforce that this is part of the targeting sequence. sequence.
*** Main/WordOfGod is that this is exactly what the notch in their left "eyebrow/lid" flap is for – it allows the laser to be targeted while the eyes are almost entirely closed/protected.
*** Main/WordOfGod is that this is exactly what the notch in their left "eyebrow/lid" flap is for – it allows the laser to be targeted while the eyes are almost entirely closed/protected.
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*** Agreed, it's entirely ceremonial. As the officiating judge states, it allows the government to publicly acknowledge its first robotic citizen, and there seems to be quite the press gathering present.
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*** Number 5 ''had'' more armour at the start of the first movie; he gradually loses it during his escape from Nova. Most notably the top, sides, and front of his head have protective plating and his mouth is covered by a grille, which is later discarded. The other robots still have theirs when they confront him later on.
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*** It's very unlikely the S.A.I.N.T. robots were equipped with GPS. Although an early version of GPS was available to the US military in the 1980s, the earliest GPS receivers were like mobile computer workstations, with the earliest handheld receivers – still weighing 1.3kg/3lb – not developed until the First Gulf War in the early 90s. There's no room in Number 5 for a 1980s GPS receiver to be installed. In addition we see Number 5 having to navigate by using regular paper maps in the first film.
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*** Correct. Number 5 was hooked up for recharging in the first film when he was struck by lightning. If he were nuclear powered this wouldn't be necessary.
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* The specific circumstances of Johnny 5's first scene in the second movie, and how it plays out. Ben had moved into that building a day ago, if that. That's an awfully short time frame in which to give his new fixed address to Stephanie and Newton, and then receive an unexpected delivery from them (especially if the address had been communicated via mail, which would account somewhat for the surprise - if they had spoken on the phone, surely the intended delivery would have rated a mention). Putting that aside, Johnny immediately greets Ben as one would a dear friend, which is jarring considering that previous interactions between them consisted of little more than two instances of 5 ejecting Ben from a Nova vehicle, the second of which also involved kidnapping Newton. Shouldn't some kind of apology have been warranted here? You might argue that there had been some communication between the two in the interim, but Ben is unaware of 5's new name - a detail that surely would have come up. All in all, even if this Fridge Logic can be hand waved as Conservation of Detail, Narrative Causality and/or the Anthropic Principle at work, I challenge anyone to disagree that Johnny 5 is being treated as a very literal Deus Ex Machina in this scene.
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*** There's also an answer provided by an episode of the reimagined ''Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined'' that also helps to explain why it's appealing for military use. In one episode, Athena (a humanoid Cylon) explains that when it comes to the Raiders, they have the ability to download. To paraphrase what she says to fit the context of why the S.A.I.N.T. robots are appealing is this: It takes time to train a soldier to make them physically fit and well verse in weaponry for combat. If they are killed, they are gone (along with that knowledge). However, when it comes to the S.A.I.N.T. robots, they're already ready to go and if they're lost, they're easily replaceable and battle ready in a much shorter time than it takes to train a human being.
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**** Shame they couldn’t have just shown Johnny destroying Number 4, either deliberately or accidentally via one of his traps, then it would be accounted for, and also leave Numbers 1-3 for the Three Stooges bit later on.
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** The fact that all of the SAINTs have a sight-like notch cut out of their right upper eyebrow seems to reinforce that this is part of the targeting sequence.
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**Number 5 did start off with them, but they were stuck onto a metal helmet-like covering that fell off when he jumped off the back of the truck along with the plate that had covered his "mouth" lights, part of giving him a more distinctive look compared to the other four units.
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* Numbers 1 through 4 have coloured discs bearing their numbers. Why doesn't Number 5 have one?
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** Moreover, even artificial optics' vision can be distorted by raindrops, obscured by mud, etc. The "eyebrows" don't have to be armored to be useful in preventing CameraAbuse from impairing the [=SAINT=]s' visual capacity.
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**** This also accounts for how Number 5 was able to take out SAINT 1, just by throwing mud at it. Clearly, they're prototypes to the point where they can't handle something as simple as mud.
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** Because it was their way of recognizing him as sentient. Just officially declaring him a citizen of the country was probably a far easier, more direct, and less controversial path to protecting his rights as a sentient being than the years-long process it would have been to establish rights for any and all potentially sentient machines.
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* At the end of the second movie, Johnny becomes a naturalized citizen. But why did he need to? He was assembled in Oregon; once he was recognized as sentient he should have been a citizen on the spot (or even retroactively) thanks to the 14th amendment.
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** There's not really any reason to assume anything really "happened" to Number Four, either. He's not seen again after Ben and Crosby take him out to go look for Number Five, so it's possible he was just re-acquired by NOVA and SAINT continued in spite of the snafu, only with additional security measures or a change in loadout and purpose. There's no reason to throw away a perfectly good, sentience-ready AI, after all, and given that it was designed to work that particular model, Number Four would be a good starting point for either.
