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* The Sock and his Step-Sister subplot. There just is no reason for it within the show. Yes, Sock was lecherous during the first season, but not to this extent. It's just annoying and [[{{Squick}} squicktastic]] to watch, and the sooner it's over, the sooner {{CanonDiscontinuity}} can kick in. Though on the other hand, Ben and Nina are adorable.

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* The Sock and his Step-Sister subplot. There just is no reason for it within the show. Yes, Sock was lecherous during the first season, but not to this extent. It's just annoying and [[{{Squick}} squicktastic]] to watch, and the sooner it's over, the sooner {{CanonDiscontinuity}} CanonDiscontinuity can kick in. Though on the other hand, Ben and Nina are adorable.



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** This point is actually addressed in the show a couple of times; first in the pilot when Ben is trying to persuade Sam that the Devil is lying because Sam isn't the one who sold his soul to the Devil, and then later in Season 1 when Andi asks Tony if he knows a way to get Sam out of his deal. Tony initially declines, saying that one selling their soul is a done deal, at which point Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil; his parents did. Tony has a look of "What? That's not right" and he then agrees to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. So the nature of Sam's deal is acknowledged as irregular within the show, which in turn raises a further point; the Devil mostly keeps Sam in the dark about the particulars and generally obfuscates his attempts to learn more [[note]] it takes Sam quite a long time to even ask for a copy of his Contract in the first place, and when he finally receives one it's written in Latin, forcing him to rely on outside forces like his father and Tony to translate for him [[/note]]. Given all this, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation, and even possible that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.

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** This point is actually addressed in the show a couple of times; first in the pilot when Ben is trying tries to persuade convince Sam that the Devil is lying about owning his soul because Sam himself isn't the one who sold his soul to the Devil, it, and then later in Season 1 when Andi asks Tony if he knows a way to get Sam out of his deal. Tony initially declines, saying that one selling their soul is a done deal, at which point Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil; his parents did. Tony has a look of "What? That's not right" and he then agrees to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. So the nature of Sam's deal is acknowledged as irregular within the show, which in turn raises a further point; the Devil mostly keeps Sam in the dark about the particulars and generally obfuscates his attempts to learn more [[note]] it takes Sam quite a long time to even ask for a copy of his Contract in the first place, and when he finally receives one it's written in Latin, forcing him to rely on outside forces like his father and Tony to translate for him [[/note]]. Given all this, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation, and even possible that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.


** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Tony has a look of "What? That's not right" which is why he agrees to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, and even then he ends up needing to rely on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.

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** They This point is actually address this addressed in the show a couple of times; first in the pilot when Ben is trying to persuade Sam that the Devil is lying because Sam isn't the one who sold his soul to the Devil, and then later in Season 1 when Andi asks Tony if he knows a way to get Sam out of his deal. Tony initially declines, saying that one selling their soul is a done deal, at which point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, Devil; his parents did. Tony has a look of "What? That's not right" which is why and he then agrees to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that So the nature of Sam's deal is acknowledged as irregular within the show, which in turn raises a further point; the Devil mostly keeps Sam in the dark about the particulars and generally obfuscates his attempts to learn more [[note]] it takes Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, copy of his Contract in the first place, and even then when he ends up needing finally receives one it's written in Latin, forcing him to rely on outside forces like his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, translate for him [[/note]]. Given all this, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply situation, and even possible that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.


** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? That's not right" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, and even then he ends up needing to rely on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.

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** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have has a look of "What? That's not right" which is why they offer he agrees to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, and even then he ends up needing to rely on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.


** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? That's not right" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, and even then he ends up needing to rely on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part. Another possibility is that his soul may be automatically bound to Hell as a result of him being one of the Devil's offspring.

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** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? That's not right" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, and even then he ends up needing to rely on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part.
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Another possibility is that his Sam's soul may be automatically bound to Hell as a result of him being one of the Devil's offspring.


** Ah, but you're missing an important part: Sam had a choice. The Devil said that if he didn't do it, he'd take his mother instead. So basically she sold her soul, with an opening in the contract so that her firstborn could buy her debt, so to speak. Sam could have just been an asshole and told the Devil to go screw himself, no trouble.

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** Ah, but you're missing an important part: Sam had a choice. The Devil said that if he didn't do it, Sam refused his Reaper duties, he'd take his mother instead. So basically she sold her soul, with an opening in the contract so that her firstborn could buy her debt, so to speak. Sam could have just been an asshole and told the Devil to go screw himself, no trouble.


** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? Thats not right?" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes him quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, instead relying on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, its not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part. Another possibility is that his soul may be automatically bound to Hell as a result of him being one of the Devil's offspring.

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** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? Thats That's not right?" right" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes him Sam quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, instead relying and even then he ends up needing to rely on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, its it's not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a KansasCityShuffle on his part. Another possibility is that his soul may be automatically bound to Hell as a result of him being one of the Devil's offspring.



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* In "Coming To Grips", why does the vessel work when Andi uses it on Jack King? Previous vessels only worked for Sam. (As demonstrated in one episode when Sock tries to use the vessel and it fails, then Ben shouts that "It has to be Sam."

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* In "Coming To Grips", why does the vessel work when Andi uses it on Jack King? Previous vessels only worked for Sam. (As demonstrated in one episode when Sock tries to use the vessel and it fails, then Ben shouts that "It has to be Sam."")

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* In "Coming To Grips", why does the vessel work when Andi uses it on Jack King? Previous vessels only worked for Sam. (As demonstrated in one episode when Sock tries to use the vessel and it fails, then Ben shouts that "It has to be Sam."

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** It's just a shame the show didn't continue so they could use the hula hoop trick.

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** Explained in the WordOfGod entry on the main page.

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** Clearly, [[AWizardDidIt the devil]] keeps them in business.

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** Yeah, it just Sam that calls Greg selling his soul for Andi kind of romantic in a way, and Andi tell him that no, it's just crazy. Everybody during that episode are pretty much creeped out by it, including Sam. and for the resolution, the only other option were to kill Greg or leave him alone while he has the power to control Andi and that anytime he get too mad, a crazed killer appears to kill the source of his anger with a chainsaw and not a whole lot of care about collateral damage. Sam is good, and good people are willing to forgive others when they admit that they messed up and show regret, especially since in the end, Greg never did anything worse than making out with Andi even though he could have done worse, so yeah, wrong, but not punishable by death.


** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? Thats not right?" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes him quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, instead relying on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, its not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a massive XanatosGambit on his part. Another possibility is that his soul may be automatically bound to Hell as a result of him being one of the Devil's offspring.

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** They actually address this point when Andi brings up the fact that Sam ''didn't'' sell his soul to the Devil, his parents did. Steve and Tony both have a look of "What? Thats not right?" which is why they offer to take a look at the Contract to see exactly what it says. Given that it takes him quite a long time in the first place to even ask for a copy, instead relying on his father and Tony to provide a translation of what the terms are, its not hard to imagine that the Devil is playing on Sam's ignorance of the situation. This could imply that the Devil ''doesn't'' own Sam's soul at all and the end of Series 2 was a massive XanatosGambit KansasCityShuffle on his part. Another possibility is that his soul may be automatically bound to Hell as a result of him being one of the Devil's offspring.

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