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** It's implied that he just heard his daughter's CatchPhrase from wherever he is.

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** It's implied that he just heard his daughter's CatchPhrase catchphrase from wherever he is.
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Kill Em All was renamed Everybody Dies Ending due to misuse. Dewicking


*** Or the inverse of that, as a [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore-style]] MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning. "Those b*** ds made me kill my family, and I'm not getting any stronger, but my little bro has potential, so lets just let whoever's stronger in a while get the eternal mangekyo and [[KillEmAll slaughter 'em all]]."

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*** Or the inverse of that, as a [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore-style]] MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning. "Those b*** ds made me kill my family, and I'm not getting any stronger, but my little bro has potential, so lets just let whoever's stronger in a while get the eternal mangekyo and [[KillEmAll slaughter 'em all]].all."
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** Because opening the Shinigami's stomach is normally fatal, as it requires you to cut your own stomach open too. Orochimaru only survived due to his body-transfer technique, and he can't use the body-transfer whenever he wants: it has a cooldown period of a couple of years each time. Being resurrected via Evil Releasing Method presumably "reset" his body, so to speak, and thus allowed him to use the technique right away.


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\n** It's possible *any* ninja's brain would produce a burst of chakra in response to stress/trauma; the difference is that a Sharingan eye can use that burst to evolve itself.

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** Please explain, in detail, how the Edo Tensei works? [[YouFailLogicForever You are making assumptions on how a technique works with absolutely no evidence, and is in fact contrary to the portrayal of how it works]].

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** Please explain, in detail, how the Edo Tensei works? [[YouFailLogicForever [[LogicalFallacies You are making assumptions on how a technique works with absolutely no evidence, and is in fact contrary to the portrayal of how it works]].
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** Maybe they were put together in order to have the entire teamwork and individual training centered on tracking (the same way that Team Guy deals with taijutsu). The distribution of different skills in a team would be very important when they become chunin or jonin, but as a genin team that wouldn't normally partake in any difficult missions, there isn't necessary a need to distribute (especially when genin in the first place don't generally have more than the basics in terms of actual jutsus or fighting skill) and they are taking first steps to properly develop these abilities for teamwork and combat.


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Getting rid of the "main" in Dragon Ball.


** Plus, when has age mattered to how old a teenager appears to be in anime? [[Anime/EurekaSeven Gidget]] is 15, Goku is 14 and Bulma is 16 at the beginning of [[DragonBall Dragon Ball]], not to mention all of the [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Seven Hundred Years Old]] characters...

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** Plus, when has age mattered to how old a teenager appears to be in anime? [[Anime/EurekaSeven Gidget]] is 15, Goku is 14 and Bulma is 16 at the beginning of [[DragonBall Dragon Ball]], ''Manga/DragonBall'', not to mention all of the [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Seven Hundred Years Old]] ReallySevenHundredYearsOld characters...
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** Madara personally reminds me of the [[{{Hellsing}} Major]]. He likes combat and warfare, even if it's not a good idea for the long run. What, you think he wrote down, 'Wear a swirly mask and act like an idiot with ADHD for a little while' because it was a brilliant strategy?

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** Madara personally reminds me of the [[{{Hellsing}} [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Major]]. He likes combat and warfare, even if it's not a good idea for the long run. What, you think he wrote down, 'Wear a swirly mask and act like an idiot with ADHD for a little while' because it was a brilliant strategy?
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Linking to this page isn't supposed to happen any more, not even for YMMV examples. If it's in-universe, it's the Fetish trope.


** Shinobi parents who died before the attack? Traveller deciding to pass a jutsu on to a capable brat? Jiraiya did it. Or hell, she could have been reading books on astral projection, and wound up finding she could extend her chakra. What I'm interested in learning is why she didn't warn anyone ([[{{CassandraTruth}} although...]]), or why Orochimaru let her put [[{{FetishFuel}} short shorts]] on the Sound Budget.

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** Shinobi parents who died before the attack? Traveller deciding to pass a jutsu on to a capable brat? Jiraiya did it. Or hell, she could have been reading books on astral projection, and wound up finding she could extend her chakra. What I'm interested in learning is why she didn't warn anyone ([[{{CassandraTruth}} although...]]), or why Orochimaru let her put [[{{FetishFuel}} short shorts]] shorts on the Sound Budget.
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* Shino, Kiba, and Hinata were all put on the same team because of their tracking skills. It seems counterproductive to do this, since the other teams could benefit from also having a tracking ninja. Why did they not distribute those skills more evenly among the teams the same way they do ninjas with medical skills?
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** Plus, when has age mattered to how old a teenager appears to be in anime? [[EurekaSeven Gidget]] is 15, Goku is 14 and Bulma is 16 at the beginning of [[DragonBall Dragon Ball]], not to mention all of the [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Seven Hundred Years Old]] characters...

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** Plus, when has age mattered to how old a teenager appears to be in anime? [[EurekaSeven [[Anime/EurekaSeven Gidget]] is 15, Goku is 14 and Bulma is 16 at the beginning of [[DragonBall Dragon Ball]], not to mention all of the [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Really Seven Hundred Years Old]] characters...
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* Was Hyōrōgan ever used in a battle situation?
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* It's stated that the only reason Sasuke is able to walk around free is because Naruto basically saved the world ad put in a good word for him and Kakashi becomes Hokage and backed it. How did the other criminals get away? Oorochimaru, Kabuto and team Taka are all still around and I can't imagine why they would be allowed to leave especially Kabuto who did huge amounts of damage and killed countless people. Now it's plausible that given how strong they are that none of the very few ninja capable of doing anything to them were present or they got a get out of jail free card but you'd think that would be the sort of thing they'd explain.
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** It's implied that he just heard his daughter's CatchPhrase from wherever he is.
* So why doesn't Naruto just make a shadow clone to be around his son? He'd be the same person, and if he poofs, he'd just gain all of the knowledge and experience.

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** It's ending in Chapter 699, with the ''Naruto: The Last'' movie serving as an epilogue.

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** It's ending in Chapter 699, 700, with the ''Naruto: The Last'' movie serving as an epilogue. epilogue.
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* Who did Sasuke see?
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* Why did Obito consider turning Sasuke into the Ten Tails' jinchuuriki after Nagato's death?
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** It's ending in Chapter 699, with the ''Naruto: The Last'' movie serving as an epilogue.
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\n* If the Sharingan needs special chakra produced by the brains of members of the Uchiha clan during traumatic events to awaken and mature, how did Kakashi advance his Sharingan in response to Rin's death?

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** Officially, he wasn't sure the ninja world was completely irredeemable yet and was using his time as Tobi to make sure he wanted to go through with the Moon's Eye Plan.


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** It wouldn't work. The Infinite Tsukiyomi afflicts people who are indoors, no eye contact required.
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* How long is the manga going to go on? It seems like Kishimoto's just trying to keep prolonging this final story arc for as long as he possibly can, so is there anyone who's ot any idea when it'll end?
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** While my honest answer is wait. Kaguya is about to annoy us with a tragic backstory we're so far past caring about and her other son is going to show up and help explain this. However Madara could easily have been every bit as full of it as Obito or equally likely Kaguya seems more than powerful enough to have put a genjutsu on Madara, especially a weakened Madara as he would have been after his fight with Hashirama.


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** The obvious answer is that the Infinite Tsuskuyomi is no where near as all encompassing as we've been lead to believe. It's already said that [[spoiler: Kaguya used it before and at the minimum her sons and grandsons were spared.]] Knowing that and Sasuke's assessment that its power fades with the moonlight and they could wait it out. My current theory is that it's range is not global and part of purpose of the Great Ninja War was to get all the best fighters on the planet, continent, whatever in one place at one time and using them she can get the people who were left behind. Especially since many of them would probably be indoors somewhere and while never going out at night until you develop a technique to battle the genjutsu is a bitch it's not actually impossible. At any rate the world at present shows that the technique had some kind of limitation apparently not one that broke it either.
* So are we waiting for another transmigrant/Ghost to show up with an EleventhHourSuperPower? Which it hurts to admit looks necessary since our heroes had their hands full before. I have to assume that it wasn't a coincidence that Kaguya initially looked at Naruto and Sasuke and initially mistook them for her sons not her grandsons.
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* Kaguya's plan for the people in the Shinju. Madara made a point of talking about how everyone would be locked in a LotusEaterMachine forever, sustained by the Shinju. Then along comes Kaguya, and after the entire population of the world, save for Team 7, have been turned into tree decorations, Black Zetsu reveals she's going to make them into her 'soldiers'. ''Why?'' This plan makes no sense! For what purpose is she going to use this army? There will be no-one to wage war against, because ''every single person in the world will be a fucking plant person''. Unless she's planning to do a [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]] and conquer loads of planets or something, which would be extremely out of place in this manga. Madara's plan at least had a purpose; he was old and bitter and thought he could end all suffering by shoving everyone in the Matrix. I'm not getting exactly what Kaguya wants to achieve here.

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* Kaguya's plan for the people in the Shinju. Madara made a point of talking about how everyone would be locked in a LotusEaterMachine forever, sustained by the Shinju. Then along comes Kaguya, and after the entire population of the world, save for Team 7, have been turned into tree decorations, Black Zetsu reveals she's going to make them into her 'soldiers'. ''Why?'' This plan makes no sense! For what purpose is she going to use this army? There will be no-one to wage war against, because ''every single person in the world will be a fucking plant person''.person under Kaguya's control''. There will be no shinobi, no continents, no animosities between villages. Unless she's planning to do a [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]] and conquer loads of planets or something, which would be extremely out of place in this manga. Madara's plan at least had a purpose; he was old and bitter and thought he could end all suffering by shoving everyone in the Matrix. I'm not getting exactly what Kaguya wants to achieve here.

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* What is the deal with the White Zetsus? I thought they were spawned from Hashirama's cells, but then you've got Black Zetsu revealing that all the people assimilated into the tree are going to turn into White Zetsus. I think the cocoons in which they're wrapped will fuse with their bodies or something. Am I missing something here or is this a retcon?
* Kaguya's plan for the people in the Shinju. Madara made a point of talking about how everyone would be locked in a LotusEaterMachine forever, sustained by the Shinju. Then along comes Kaguya, and after the entire population of the world, save for Team 7, have been turned into tree decorations, Black Zetsu reveals she's going to make them into her 'soldiers'. ''Why?'' This plan makes no sense! For what purpose is she going to use this army? There will be no-one to wage war against, because ''every single person in the world will be a fucking plant person''. Unless she's planning to do a [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]] and conquer loads of planets or something, which would be extremely out of place in this manga. Madara's plan at least had a purpose; he was old and bitter and thought he could end all suffering by shoving everyone in the Matrix. I'm not getting exactly what Kaguya wants to achieve here.
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* Two things that have been bothering me this week. Firstly, what is the deal with the White Zetsus? I thought they were spawned from Hashirama's cells, but then you've got Black Zetsu revealing that all the people assimilated into the tree are going to turn into White Zetsus. I think the cocoons in which they're wrapped will fuse with their bodies or something. Am I missing something here or is this a retcon? Secondly, we have Kaguya's plan for the people in the Shinju. Madara made a point of talking about how everyone would be locked in a LotusEaterMachine forever, sustained by the Shinju. Then along comes Kaguya, and after the entire population of the world, save for Team 7, have been turned into tree decorations, Black Zetsu reveals she's going to make them into her 'soldiers'. ''Why?'' This plan makes no sense! For what purpose is she going to use this army? There will be no-one to wage war against, because ''every single person in the world will be a fucking plant person''. Unless she's planning to do a [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]] and conquer loads of planets or something, which would be extremely out of place in this manga. Madara's plan at least had a purpose; he was old and bitter and thought he could end all suffering by shoving everyone in the Matrix. I'm not getting exactly what Kaguya wants to achieve here.
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* Two things that have been bothering me this week. Firstly, what is the deal with the White Zetsus? I thought they were spawned from Hashirama's cells, but then you've got Black Zetsu revealing that all the people assimilated into the tree are going to turn into White Zetsus. I think the cocoons in which they're wrapped will fuse with their bodies or something. Am I missing something here or is this a retcon? Secondly, we have Kaguya's plan for the people in the Shinju. Madara made a point of talking about how everyone would be locked in a LotusEaterMachine forever, sustained by the Shinju. Then along comes Kaguya, and after the entire population of the world, save for Team 7, have been turned into tree decorations, Black Zetsu reveals she's going to make them into her 'soldiers'. ''Why?'' This plan makes no sense! For what purpose is she going to use this army? There will be no-one to wage war against, because ''every single person in the world will be a fucking plant person''. Unless she's planning to do a [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Galaxia]] and conquer loads of planets or something, which would be extremely out of place in this manga. Madara's plan at least had a purpose; he was old and bitter and thought he could end all suffering by shoving everyone in the Matrix. I'm not getting exactly what Kaguya wants to achieve here.
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** It has been team battles before [[spoiler: as shown in Obito's flashback]]. My theory is that, with the Rookie Nine's exams containing two Jinchuuriki, they decided to make it one-on-one fights to hopefully curtail damage if the Jinchuuriki lost it. Can you imagine if Shukaku or Kurama had gotten out in the midst of a three-on-three battle? Or Gaara in a three-on-three battle ''in general'' at that time? While the second stage could contradict that, it was also something that took place in a huge training field with lots of other dangers, a waiver, and no real guarantee that the Jinchuuriki would meet anyone during that time. Or it could just be that the selection of Genin that year involved so many heirs, bloodlines and other high ranking children (the Kazekage's kids, etc) that they decided that one-on-one fights would get a better showing at the matches because all attention would be on the last Uchiha/Hyuuga prodigy/Kazekage's son/etc instead of split between six fighters. Furthermore, this exam also contained an InoShikaCho combination - it's possible that the Hokage (and perhaps other village leaders) felt that it would be unfair to expect other teams to go up against a trio perfectly designed for team fights?

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** It has been team battles before [[spoiler: as shown in Obito's flashback]]. My theory is that, with the Rookie Nine's exams containing two Jinchuuriki, they decided to make it one-on-one fights to hopefully curtail damage if reduce the changes of the Jinchuuriki lost losing it. Can you imagine if Shukaku or Kurama had gotten out in the midst of a three-on-three battle? Or Gaara in a three-on-three battle ''in general'' at that time? While the second stage could contradict that, it was also something that took place in a huge training field with lots of other dangers, a waiver, and no real guarantee that the Jinchuuriki would meet anyone during that time. Or it could just be that the selection of Genin that year involved so many heirs, bloodlines and other high ranking children (the Kazekage's kids, etc) that they decided that one-on-one fights would get a better showing at the matches because all attention would be on the last Uchiha/Hyuuga prodigy/Kazekage's son/etc instead of split between six fighters. Furthermore, this exam also contained an InoShikaCho combination - it's possible that the Hokage (and perhaps other village leaders) felt that it would be unfair to expect other teams to go up against a trio perfectly designed for team fights?

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* Zetsu can travel great distances and sneak up on people so why isn't he used as an assasin or try abduct Kyubi whilst they sleep?

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** It has been team battles before [[spoiler: as shown in Obito's flashback]]. My theory is that, with the Rookie Nine's exams containing two Jinchuuriki, they decided to make it one-on-one fights to hopefully curtail damage if the Jinchuuriki lost it. Can you imagine if Shukaku or Kurama had gotten out in the midst of a three-on-three battle? Or Gaara in a three-on-three battle ''in general'' at that time? While the second stage could contradict that, it was also something that took place in a huge training field with lots of other dangers, a waiver, and no real guarantee that the Jinchuuriki would meet anyone during that time. Or it could just be that the selection of Genin that year involved so many heirs, bloodlines and other high ranking children (the Kazekage's kids, etc) that they decided that one-on-one fights would get a better showing at the matches because all attention would be on the last Uchiha/Hyuuga prodigy/Kazekage's son/etc instead of split between six fighters. Furthermore, this exam also contained an InoShikaCho combination - it's possible that the Hokage (and perhaps other village leaders) felt that it would be unfair to expect other teams to go up against a trio perfectly designed for team fights?
* Zetsu can travel great distances and sneak up on people so why isn't he used as an assasin assassin or try abduct Kyubi whilst they sleep?
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** According to a flashback by [[spoiler: Hashirama]], Izuna died in battle before Madara took his eyes. However, said flashback was only of Madara saying that and we still don't know for sure.


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** As it turns out, "Madara" was actually [[spoiler: Obito Uchiha]] who lied in order to hide the fact that he didn't have the original's power.


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** Considering he is really [[spoiler: Obito Uchiha gone mad from the DespairEventHorizon]] another character speculated the he had spent a large amount of time traveling the world to see if he truly wanted to execute the Moon's Eye plan.


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*** No probably, Hidan is newer than Deidara, who was Orochimaru's replacement.
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** Madara was the first to unlock Mangekyou. Neither Madara nor Izuna would have known beforehand that they should have kept Madara's blind eyes until Madara recovered from the surgery with new powers. By then, his eyes might have rotted, making them unsuitable for the transfer.

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** Madara was the first to unlock Mangekyou. Neither Madara nor Izuna would have known beforehand that they should have kept Madara's blind eyes until Madara recovered from the surgery with new powers. By then, his original eyes might have rotted, making them unsuitable for the transfer.
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** Madara was the first to unlock Mangekyou. Neither Madara nor Izuna would have known beforehand that they should have kept Madara's blind eyes until Madara recovered from the surgery with new powers. By then, his eyes might have rotted, making them unsuitable for the transfer.

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