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** Actually, In WorldOfWarcraft, the general strategy is actually Capture and hold, Grab 2/3 flags in gilneas/basin and defend them. What works works.

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** Actually, In WorldOfWarcraft, ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', the general strategy is actually Capture and hold, Grab 2/3 flags in gilneas/basin and defend them. What works works.


*** But for some reason, it's ''especially'' bad in MOBA games, especially DefenseOfTheAncients, VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth, and this game.

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*** But for some reason, it's ''especially'' bad in MOBA games, especially DefenseOfTheAncients, VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth, ''VideoGame/DefenseOfTheAncients'', ''VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth'', and this game.


** When there's a bad player in most games, the worst they can do is not help their team mates or increase their opponents score, making them more likely to lose. In MOBAs, when someone does badly, they're actively increasing the strength of their opponents, making every competitive aspect outright harder for their team mates. Not only does this make them frustrated, but, the resulting drop in the entire team scores makes everyone assume it must be someone elses fault.

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** When there's a bad player in most games, the worst they can do is not help their team mates or increase their opponents score, making them more likely to lose. In MOBAs, MultiplayerOnlineBattleArena, when someone does badly, they're actively increasing the strength of their opponents, making every competitive aspect outright harder for their team mates. Not only does this make them frustrated, but, the resulting drop in the entire team scores makes everyone assume it must be someone elses else's fault.


** Sion is already dead. And if Urgot's selection quote ("Eternal life, endless torment") is any indication, those who undergo the process Sion and Urgot went through exist in pain, so death might be a release of sorts. For Draven, his death is supposed to be a shoutout to either [[MetalGear Liquid Ocelot]] or [[Anime/CowboyBebop Cowboy Bebop]]'s death ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oujWuLFx7Ug video comparison]]), and having it be more 'dramatic' would null the shoutout.

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** Sion is already dead. And if Urgot's selection quote ("Eternal life, endless torment") is any indication, those who undergo the process Sion and Urgot went through exist in pain, so death might be a release of sorts. For Draven, his death is supposed to be a shoutout to either [[MetalGear [[VideoGame/MetalGear Liquid Ocelot]] or [[Anime/CowboyBebop Cowboy Bebop]]'s death ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oujWuLFx7Ug video comparison]]), and having it be more 'dramatic' would null the shoutout.


*** This is kind of an unfair calling for {{Dota 2}} and this is coming from someone who ''loves'' both DOTA and League. Basically is, due to it being a free to play game, even little kids that hasn't developed the mental fortitude to keep their cool will be a LOT more abundant in these kinds of games. It doesn't matter if it's ranked or normal, if it's DOTA or League, they WILL think they're the best player ever, they demand honor/commend when finishing the game well, or start flaming when things don't go their way, not realizing that games like this are supposed to be a fun experience. Not everyone who play this game are demanded to become professional champions, they were too intoxicated with the thought of losing is just showing how bad they are rather than experience for them to get better. DOTA is thought to be a lot more punishing than League and it is true, but in fact, here and now, there are ALWAYS people who are casual in DOTA, makes playing and learning there just as fun as it is in League. And vice versa, as stated, there's even League players that are just extremely toxic and pissy it makes DOTA fandom look like angels. You can throw the same thing to VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth... or even VideoGame/{{Smite}}, but one truth remains: It's the stigma of MOBA games, especially free to play ones that you will find these kind of brats if you play online, so you need to be prepared mentally for this. You can also find yourself some IRL friends that share interest so you can form a team and won't have to deal with these guys anymore, in fact, usually college dudes or working people who like playing these games certainly came off more affable and less toxic because of their developed mentalities. Bottom line: Toxic guys, StopHavingFunGuys and pissy guys are the bread and butter of online games. You need to deal with them daily.

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*** This is kind of an unfair calling for {{Dota VideoGame/{{Dota 2}} and this is coming from someone who ''loves'' both DOTA and League. Basically is, due to it being a free to play game, even little kids that hasn't developed the mental fortitude to keep their cool will be a LOT more abundant in these kinds of games. It doesn't matter if it's ranked or normal, if it's DOTA or League, they WILL think they're the best player ever, they demand honor/commend when finishing the game well, or start flaming when things don't go their way, not realizing that games like this are supposed to be a fun experience. Not everyone who play this game are demanded to become professional champions, they were too intoxicated with the thought of losing is just showing how bad they are rather than experience for them to get better. DOTA is thought to be a lot more punishing than League and it is true, but in fact, here and now, there are ALWAYS people who are casual in DOTA, makes playing and learning there just as fun as it is in League. And vice versa, as stated, there's even League players that are just extremely toxic and pissy it makes DOTA fandom look like angels. You can throw the same thing to VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth... or even VideoGame/{{Smite}}, but one truth remains: It's the stigma of MOBA games, especially free to play ones that you will find these kind of brats if you play online, so you need to be prepared mentally for this. You can also find yourself some IRL friends that share interest so you can form a team and won't have to deal with these guys anymore, in fact, usually college dudes or working people who like playing these games certainly came off more affable and less toxic because of their developed mentalities. Bottom line: Toxic guys, StopHavingFunGuys and pissy guys are the bread and butter of online games. You need to deal with them daily.


** He was born in the [[StarCraft Terran Confederacy]].

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** He was born in the [[StarCraft [[VideoGame/StarCraft Terran Confederacy]].


* Has Riot ever played ''WorldOfWarcraft'' or ''GuildWars''? Shouldn't they have known that nobody defends in capture and hold games and added something to encourage defensive play? Just about every game, there's a big fight for top...and then everyone disperses and leaves only one person to defend it. Or the sole defender asks someone to take their place because they need to heal or buy only for the other person to abandon it.

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* Has Riot ever played ''WorldOfWarcraft'' ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' or ''GuildWars''? ''VideoGame/GuildWars''? Shouldn't they have known that nobody defends in capture and hold games and added something to encourage defensive play? Just about every game, there's a big fight for top...and then everyone disperses and leaves only one person to defend it. Or the sole defender asks someone to take their place because they need to heal or buy only for the other person to abandon it.


** Riot has been working on other games for years, but they put their bar EXTREMELY high.

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** Riot has been working on other games for years, but they put their bar EXTREMELY high.high.
*** It isn't exactly what you would think of when you hear "spinoff game", but [[http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/mechs-vs-minions Mechs Vs. Minions]] (a tabletop board game based on a team of Yordles fighting off basic lane creeps) is coming out in October 2016. Maybe Riot does have plans for spinoffs of League characters and ideas, just in a different form.


* So after watching [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCictw_TgM this vid]], I got wondering. Why ''hasn't'' Riot taken a shot at making a spinoff game? League's big enough to be called the video game super bowl so there should be an audience to sell to. I get that MOBA is a very different style from other games, but there's always the option to collab with other developers (like when Nintendo and Koei made ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors''). I'm just curious is all.

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* So after watching [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCictw_TgM this vid]], I got wondering. Why ''hasn't'' Riot taken a shot at making a spinoff game? League's big enough to be called the video game super bowl so there should be an audience to sell to. I get that MOBA is a very different style from other games, but there's always the option to collab with other developers (like when Nintendo and Koei made ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors''). I'm just curious is all.all.
** Riot has been working on other games for years, but they put their bar EXTREMELY high.

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** His post-retcon lore makes the handwave explicit; the magic is in the cards, learned when TF was a boy.


* So after watching [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCictw_TgM this vid]], I got wondering. Why ''hasn't'' Riot taken a shot at making a spinoff game? League's big enough to be called the video game super bowl so there should be an audience to sell to. I get that MOBA is a very different style from other games, but there's always the option to collab with other developers (like when Nintendo and Koei made ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors]]). I'm just curious is all.

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* So after watching [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCictw_TgM this vid]], I got wondering. Why ''hasn't'' Riot taken a shot at making a spinoff game? League's big enough to be called the video game super bowl so there should be an audience to sell to. I get that MOBA is a very different style from other games, but there's always the option to collab with other developers (like when Nintendo and Koei made ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors]]).''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors''). I'm just curious is all.


** There's also the fact that League's lore is currently going under some ''major'' overhauls, so no issue with being behind in lore.

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** There's also the fact that League's lore is currently going under some ''major'' overhauls, so no issue with being behind in lore.lore.
* So after watching [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCictw_TgM this vid]], I got wondering. Why ''hasn't'' Riot taken a shot at making a spinoff game? League's big enough to be called the video game super bowl so there should be an audience to sell to. I get that MOBA is a very different style from other games, but there's always the option to collab with other developers (like when Nintendo and Koei made ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors]]). I'm just curious is all.


** I would say no. At this point a Champion is just a cipher to represent you on the battlefield, with some personality flavor to make it more interesting. If you take an interest in him or her and want to learn more, the information is there. The real barrier to League is learning the game mechanics, builds, and how to shrug off the occasionally-toxic community.

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** I would say no. At this point a Champion is just a cipher to represent you on the battlefield, with some personality flavor to make it more interesting. If you take an interest in him or her and want to learn more, the information is there. The real barrier to League is learning the game mechanics, builds, and how to shrug off the occasionally-toxic community.community.
** There's also the fact that League's lore is currently going under some ''major'' overhauls, so no issue with being behind in lore.


* Hey, I've been thinking about starting LOL. Will there be any *ContinuityLockout? Just wondering.

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* Hey, I've been thinking about starting LOL. Will there be any *ContinuityLockout? Just wondering.wondering.
** I would say no. At this point a Champion is just a cipher to represent you on the battlefield, with some personality flavor to make it more interesting. If you take an interest in him or her and want to learn more, the information is there. The real barrier to League is learning the game mechanics, builds, and how to shrug off the occasionally-toxic community.


** I was actually excited to see that her eyes had turned blue. Give Ahri's backstory/lore a read: she's a gumiho ''trying to become more human/moral.'' The legend of the gumiho states that if the (naturally pretty ChaoticNeutral) gumiho can go 1000 days without eating a human, it will turn into a pure-hearted creature (or even become human itself). This December 11th, 2014 will mark Ahri's 3-year anniversary of joining the league. 3 years = 1095 days. It's hounestly FridgeBrilliance when you realize that Riot ''acknowledged'' this passage of time in A New Dawn. TL;DR her eyes were yellow when she joined the league, now they're blue, to show that she's become a good person (or is very close to being one).

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** I was actually excited to see that her eyes had turned blue. Give Ahri's backstory/lore a read: she's a gumiho ''trying to become more human/moral.'' The legend of the gumiho states that if the (naturally pretty ChaoticNeutral) gumiho can go 1000 days without eating a human, it will turn into a pure-hearted creature (or even become human itself). This December 11th, 2014 will mark Ahri's 3-year anniversary of joining the league. 3 years = 1095 days. It's hounestly FridgeBrilliance when you realize that Riot ''acknowledged'' this passage of time in A New Dawn. TL;DR her eyes were yellow when she joined the league, now they're blue, to show that she's become a good person (or is very close to being one).one).
*Hey, I've been thinking about starting LOL. Will there be any *ContinuityLockout? Just wondering.

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