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** About the second part: their school is an all-girl school, so their popularity is limited to members of their own sex. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat Not that]] there's [[LesYay anything]] [[GirlsLove wrong]] [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with]] that, but they can't ''all'' be lesbians, right?
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** About the second part: their school is an all-girl school, so their popularity is limited to members of their own sex. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat Not that]] there's [[LesYay anything]] [[GirlsLove [[YuriGenre wrong]] [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with]] that, but they can't ''all'' be lesbians, right?
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** [[BestKnownForTheFanservice Everybody Remembers The Panties]]. Also see FaceOfTheBand.
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** [[BestKnownForTheFanservice Everybody Remembers The Panties]]. Also see FaceOfTheBand.
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** The OP here seems to be written back when only Season 1 is available, but HTT does have reasons to avoid guitar solos. In the first year Yui is starting out - it's best to let Mugi handle the melodic parts. Starting from the 2nd year, they had a situation where the underclassman (Azusa) is better than the upperclassman (Yui). Episode 9 of the 1st season also covers Yui dealing with the situation, so we know that she has integrated '''some''' "typical Japanese attitudes" on the issue. Though Yui chooses acceptance and has showered Azusa with love since, it's still an issue that perhaps shouldn't be exposed head-on with something like a guitar solo. And at least U&I does end up having one, though.
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** To begin with, it is doubtful a High School level club can do Jazz. Dipping shallowly into the matter, the essence of jazz is said to be on-stage improvisation. What little is known about the Jazz Club suggests they aren't particularly strong at even playing their instruments, thus improvisation is way beyond them and it's likely the club is limited to picking up extant jazz recordings and trying to reproduce them without consideration to improvisation. As a person with years of practice in guitar, Azusa may feel ready to start learning to go above reproduction into improvisation and hoping the Jazz Club will be where she learns how, but no one else is.
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*** Yui's already used to Ui being better in many things, but whether she's actually better than Yui at the guitar is ambiguous. Remember that all she's praised for is her ***rhythm keeping*** at the end of a performance we never got to hear. While she must have not flubbed outright the other aspects, there is more to guitar, such as complicated articulations. Depending on what song they were going through, that would not necessarily be tested heavily.
*** Ui strikes me as a strange one. She clearly starts off strongly in whatever she tries, but the strong start is not matched by as strong a finish. For example, despite having little to do but practice guitar in High School combined with her strong start, there's no sign she overtakes Azusa. (Yeah, there's the 6-fingered thing but the most reasonable explanation is that Nao put something like a 13th chord, in which case the book answer is simply to play only the part of the chord you can). Not only did she worry about getting into the same school as her sister, in the anime she's portrayed as doing homework until quite late which suggests at least she's not blowing past it. She played the organ and remains competent after years but she it's not like she wins any medals and in fact dropped out along the way. Overall Ui strikes me as someone who receives instruction (including from books) well and thus masters the '''basics''' remarkably quickly (rhythm keeping is basics) but doesn't necessarily progress as well to the more esoteric bits and ends up on the good side of average on anything she tries rather than getting excellent.
*** Ui strikes me as a strange one. She clearly starts off strongly in whatever she tries, but the strong start is not matched by as strong a finish. For example, despite having little to do but practice guitar in High School combined with her strong start, there's no sign she overtakes Azusa. (Yeah, there's the 6-fingered thing but the most reasonable explanation is that Nao put something like a 13th chord, in which case the book answer is simply to play only the part of the chord you can). Not only did she worry about getting into the same school as her sister, in the anime she's portrayed as doing homework until quite late which suggests at least she's not blowing past it. She played the organ and remains competent after years but she it's not like she wins any medals and in fact dropped out along the way. Overall Ui strikes me as someone who receives instruction (including from books) well and thus masters the '''basics''' remarkably quickly (rhythm keeping is basics) but doesn't necessarily progress as well to the more esoteric bits and ends up on the good side of average on anything she tries rather than getting excellent.
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*** Yui's already used to Ui being better in many things, but whether she's actually better than Yui at the guitar is ambiguous. Remember that all she's praised for is her ***rhythm keeping*** ''rhythm keeping'' at the end of a performance we never got to hear. While she must have not flubbed outright the other aspects, there is more to guitar, such as complicated articulations. Depending on what song they were going through, that would not necessarily be tested heavily.
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#### Overall Ui strikesme this troper as someone who receives instruction (including from books) well and thus masters the '''basics''' remarkably quickly and firmly (rhythm keeping is basics) but doesn't necessarily progress as well to the more esoteric bits and ends up on the good side of average on anything she tries rather than getting excellent.
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** It's the same episode, but it wasn't a few hours, rather a week or two between the Live and Azusa asking Yui for her motives. In the live Yui was trying to reassure and welcome music newbies that may want to try music but hesitate to join the more serious-looking Chorus, Brass Band or Jazz Appreciation clubs. It's different to make such a confession again to someone who '''clearly''' is highly experienced and dedicated to music.
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*** Yui's already used to Ui being better in many things, but whether she's actually better than Yui at the guitar is ambiguous. Remember that all she's praised for is her ***rhythm keeping*** at the end of a performance we never got to hear. While she must have not flubbed outright the other aspects, there is more to guitar, such as complicated articulations. Depending on what song they were going through, that would not necessarily be tested heavily.
****Ui strikes me as a strange one. She clearly starts off strongly in whatever she tries, but the strong start is not matched by as strong a finish. For example, despite having little to do but practice guitar in High School combined with her strong start, there's no sign she overtakes Azusa. (Yeah, there's the 6-fingered thing but the most reasonable explanation is that Nao put something like a 13th chord, in which case the book answer is simply to play only the part of the chord you can). Not only did she worry about getting into the same school as her sister, in the anime she's portrayed as doing homework until quite late which suggests at least she's not blowing past it. She played the organ and remains competent after years but she it's not like she wins any medals and in fact dropped out along the way. Overall Ui strikes me as someone who receives instruction (including from books) well and thus masters the '''basics''' remarkably quickly (rhythm keeping is basics) but doesn't necessarily progress as well to the more esoteric bits and ends up on the good side of average on anything she tries rather than getting excellent.
****Ui strikes me as a strange one. She clearly starts off strongly in whatever she tries, but the strong start is not matched by as strong a finish. For example, despite having little to do but practice guitar in High School combined with her strong start, there's no sign she overtakes Azusa. (Yeah, there's the 6-fingered thing but the most reasonable explanation is that Nao put something like a 13th chord, in which case the book answer is simply to play only the part of the chord you can). Not only did she worry about getting into the same school as her sister, in the anime she's portrayed as doing homework until quite late which suggests at least she's not blowing past it. She played the organ and remains competent after years but she it's not like she wins any medals and in fact dropped out along the way. Overall Ui strikes me as someone who receives instruction (including from books) well and thus masters the '''basics''' remarkably quickly (rhythm keeping is basics) but doesn't necessarily progress as well to the more esoteric bits and ends up on the good side of average on anything she tries rather than getting excellent.
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** The Japanese like doing that - writing kanji but reading it as English. See the titles of ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' or ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'' for examples. Mostly for RuleOfCool.
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** The Japanese like doing that - writing kanji but reading it as English. See the titles of ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' or ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'' ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex'' for examples. Mostly for RuleOfCool.
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** I agree with what was said earlier that there might have been some ValuesDissonance going on. As far as I know, not many people in Western culture would bat an eye if a younger sibling happened to be smarter/more capable than an older one unless there was a stark age difference. Yui and Ui aren't far apart in age as far as I know, so I also found it odd how obsessed the other characters are about pointing it out. Even if there is a gap between Yui and Ui intelligence and maturity-wise (Though even then Yui is not as stupid and lazy as others make her out to be), I've observed that it's not really that big a deal to most (But not all) Western fans. Younger siblings ending up smarter and more mature than their older siblings isn't exactly a rare occurrence.
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*** On top of that, Ui has a reputation of being TheAce as the manga reveals in the chapters where Yui and the others go to college, to the point that Nao Okuda tries to find if she even has any weakness. Compare that to Yui, who, while being naturally gifted is a LazyBum ForgetfulJones [[TheDitz ditz]], to the point that Azusa expressed sympathy to the college that accepted her (TheMovie shows she doesn't even know that London is in Europe). Such a stark difference between two siblings will baffle anyone, no matter what.
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** In addition to being more mature, Ui, despite being a year younger, is somehow smart enough to help Yui out occasionally with her studies. No matter how common it is for younger siblings to be more mature than their ChildishOlderSibling, it is pretty uncommon for someone to be able to explain complicated math and other stuff to their older siblings. So I'm guessing, this is another reason they keep on highlighting this.
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** My guess is, while Ui is more skilled than Yui, she is still relatively green and probably is comfortable with only Gitah, which she left back home. And without that she probably isn't very confident (at least in the manga, it is established that despite being more mature than Yui, the Hirasawa sisters share a lot of quirks, so it is not too out of character for her to be only be comfortable with Yui's guitar). So either way, someone has to go back home and get it.
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** Simplest answer: Perhaps she just forgot that she mentioned that fact during the performance? Because of her GeniusDitz nature and/or a temporary lapse of memory, it wouldn't seem too out of place to me that she'd not recall something she said hours ago.
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*** [[LesYay Any]] [[ number]] of [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship reasons]] [[GirlsLove really.]]
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** About the second part: their school is an all-girl school, so their popularity is limited to members of their own sex. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat Not that]] [[SchoolgirlLesbians there's]] [[LesYay anything]] [[GirlsLove wrong]] [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with]] that, but they can't ''all'' be lesbians, right?
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** About the second part: their school is an all-girl school, so their popularity is limited to members of their own sex. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat Not that]] [[SchoolgirlLesbians there's]] there's [[LesYay anything]] [[GirlsLove wrong]] [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with]] that, but they can't ''all'' be lesbians, right?
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** Yui was giving Mugi a back hug in S02E02 during their homeroom recess group discussion which looked like a normal thing for them to do by the casualness of it.
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* Don't [[http://www.mangareader.net/k-on/59/5 this]] also come into Mugi's {{DoesNotKnowHisOwnStrength}}
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** About the second part: their school is an all-girl school, so their popularity is limited to members of their own sex. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat Not that]] [[SchoolgirlLesbians there's]] [[LesYay anything]] [[GirlsLove wrong]] [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with]] that, but they can't ''[[EveryoneIsGay all]]'' be lesbians, right?
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** About the second part: their school is an all-girl school, so their popularity is limited to members of their own sex. [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat Not that]] [[SchoolgirlLesbians there's]] [[LesYay anything]] [[GirlsLove wrong]] [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with]] that, but they can't ''[[EveryoneIsGay all]]'' ''all'' be lesbians, right?
