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*** He's a good sport?

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*** He's a good sport?sport?
*** He needs the Mothership core and is baiting them to Balcora.

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** In the Remaster it's not futile at all, thanks to the weapon and armor rebalance making Motherships ludicrously vulnerable to Ion Cannon fire. They can win the battle for you before the defense fleet can stop them.


*** ''Cataclysm'' explains that they didn't, the Empire imploded on its own due actions the Kushan triggered: with the Empire already in trouble with the Council and its neighbours, the Burning of Kharak started a large rebellion that, while suppressed and almost wiped out, weakened the Empire and distracted its forces allowing the Kushan to sneak inside going through the various weak spots of the Imperial defensive net (the latter is openly stated in-game); as a consequence of the various commitments, the Empire couldn't muster enough forces to defend Hiigara, and the Kushan, with help from the surviving rebels, managed to kill the Emperor; as chaos ensues in the wake of the Emperor's death and the Bentusi and the Council impose on the Taiidan to leave the Kushan alone, the rebels destroyed the gene bank containing the data to clone the Emperor; with no ability to clone the Emperor (implied to be a clone of his predecessor himself) and all other candidate successors having been killed on his orders, the Imperial military fragmented, with most siding with the rebels and their Taiidan Republic and the rest founding bandit kingdoms that planned to topple the Republic and wipe out the Hiigarans.

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*** ''Cataclysm'' explains that they didn't, they just killed the Empire imploded emperor and his own mad policies made it collapse on its own due actions the Kushan triggered: with the Empire already in trouble with the Council and its neighbours, the Burning of Kharak started a large rebellion that, while suppressed and almost wiped out, weakened the Empire and distracted its forces allowing the Kushan to sneak inside going through the various weak spots of the Imperial defensive net (the latter is openly stated in-game); as a consequence of the various commitments, the Empire couldn't muster enough forces to defend Hiigara, and the Kushan, with help from the surviving rebels, managed to kill the Emperor; as chaos ensues in the wake of the Emperor's death and the Bentusi and the Council impose on the Taiidan to leave the Kushan alone, the rebels destroyed the gene bank containing the data to clone the Emperor; with no ability to clone the Emperor (implied to be a clone of his predecessor himself) and all other candidate successors having been killed on his orders, the Imperial military fragmented, with most siding own, with the rebels and taking advantage to found their Taiidan Republic and the rest founding bandit kingdoms that planned to topple the Republic and wipe out the Hiigarans.Republic.

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*** ''Cataclysm'' explains that they didn't, the Empire imploded on its own due actions the Kushan triggered: with the Empire already in trouble with the Council and its neighbours, the Burning of Kharak started a large rebellion that, while suppressed and almost wiped out, weakened the Empire and distracted its forces allowing the Kushan to sneak inside going through the various weak spots of the Imperial defensive net (the latter is openly stated in-game); as a consequence of the various commitments, the Empire couldn't muster enough forces to defend Hiigara, and the Kushan, with help from the surviving rebels, managed to kill the Emperor; as chaos ensues in the wake of the Emperor's death and the Bentusi and the Council impose on the Taiidan to leave the Kushan alone, the rebels destroyed the gene bank containing the data to clone the Emperor; with no ability to clone the Emperor (implied to be a clone of his predecessor himself) and all other candidate successors having been killed on his orders, the Imperial military fragmented, with most siding with the rebels and their Taiidan Republic and the rest founding bandit kingdoms that planned to topple the Republic and wipe out the Hiigarans.



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** With the game Deserts of Kharak, as well as what lore can be found in all the manuals, this is explained. They actually didn't. Once they found the guide stone, and hyper drive buried under the sands of Kharak they focused everything inward. Every satellite, all the production, all the tech was just focused on getting to the point of building the Mothership, and getting off the planet. They never actually looked outward. On top of that, even with radio and optical telescopes, space is vast, and actually spotting signs of life incredibly hard. I mean look at us, are we alone in this vast universe, or have we just not found the evidence of other civilizations?


*** That's a pretty massive assumption, given the teeming nature of the galaxy they're in. And that leads to another question: if the second dreadnought berth is in plain sight of the first, why didn't Makaan grab both while he had the chance?

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*** That's a pretty massive assumption, given the teeming nature of the galaxy they're in. And that leads to another question: if the second dreadnought berth is in plain sight of the first, why didn't Makaan grab both while he had the chance?chance?
*** He's a good sport?



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** Who says the Taiidani ''did'' care all that much about the Exiles and the treaty for most of those 4000 years? It is entirely possible the monitoring was automated and the Kushan had the bad luck to re-develop hyperspace travel while the Empire was ruled by an Emperor who'd immediately escalate to planetary extermination on finding out an extremely ancient treaty had been broken by people who might not even be aware of it, rather than one more like Captain Elson.

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* It seemed like the Exiles had no idea that the Empire or other space-faring cultures existed until they encountered the forces that destroyed the Khar-Selim. How did they tech up to build the Mothership without discovering signs of other intelligent life in the process? You'd think at the very least they would use radio and optical telescopes to survey other star systems from afar.

* If the Empire actually monitored Kharak for 4000-odd years and intended to enforce the "no hyperspace travel" treaty, why didn't they periodically show themselves to the Exiles and remind them of their obligations?

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** The Mothership was completed after 60 years, which counted as 4 generations. Hiigarans had a massive population drop, which most likely would be followed by a baby boom. If we count 6 generations as a century, then every nuclear family having 5.7 kids on average would result in following generations: 0 650K; 1 1853K; 2 5280K; 3 15M; 4 42M; 5 122M; 6 348M. Just make sure they have food, water, shelter and adequate medical care.


*** In the mission where you acquire the Dreadnaught, if you look out of the map bounds you can see another dreadnaught berth...

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*** In the mission where you acquire the Dreadnaught, if you look out of the map bounds you can see another dreadnaught berth...berth...
*** That's a pretty massive assumption, given the teeming nature of the galaxy they're in. And that leads to another question: if the second dreadnought berth is in plain sight of the first, why didn't Makaan grab both while he had the chance?


** My theory is that since the Hiigarans aren't actually human, the writers just decided that they could breed like rabbits. That, or TheyJustDidntCare.

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** My theory is that since the Hiigarans aren't actually human, the writers just decided that they could breed like rabbits. That, or TheyJustDidntCare.


** It's also reasonably logical in some other ways. The Kushani at least, wouldn't have much of a concept of naval warfare. On land, tanks are ''utterly'' dependent on infantry to be their eyes and ears, and for point defense. In the air, it's a tradeoff between anti-fighter capability and bomb load-out. It's only in the seas (and in space) that you can have a massive vessel bristling with guns for shooting all sizes of things. And the Taiidan ship designs do tend to have better turret placement.

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** It's also reasonably logical in some other ways. The Kushani Kushan at least, wouldn't have much of a concept of naval warfare. On land, tanks are ''utterly'' dependent on infantry to be their eyes and ears, and for point defense. In the air, it's a tradeoff between anti-fighter capability and bomb load-out. It's only in the seas (and in space) that you can have a massive vessel bristling with guns for shooting all sizes of things. And the Taiidan ship designs do tend to have better turret placement.



* Initially, whilst telling the Kushani fleet about their history, the Bentusi spoke of the Angel Moon, a beautiful satellite that used to orbit Hiigara but was long since gone. Only for you to arrive in the Hiigara system at the end of the game and have it sitting there in the background exactly as its described. [=HW2=], even uses the thing as a big shiny rally point almost right at the beginning of the game. Why did they do this?

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* Initially, whilst telling the Kushani Kushan fleet about their history, the Bentusi spoke of the Angel Moon, a beautiful satellite that used to orbit Hiigara but was long since gone. Only for you to arrive in the Hiigara system at the end of the game and have it sitting there in the background exactly as its described. [=HW2=], even uses the thing as a big shiny rally point almost right at the beginning of the game. Why did they do this?



*** ''Also'', the Kushani hyperdrive technology being reverse-engineered and still rather imperfect was cited as the reason why the Mothership had to make such an epic journey. It was implied that with a proper hyperspace core, they could have simply jumped straight into the Hiigaran system. This, at least, appears to have escaped being retconned, as it is never a lack of range that has the Mothership leave hyperspace in [=HW2=] (nor in Cataclysm, actually...).

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*** ''Also'', the Kushani Kushan hyperdrive technology being reverse-engineered and still rather imperfect was cited as the reason why the Mothership had to make such an epic journey. It was implied that with a proper hyperspace core, they could have simply jumped straight into the Hiigaran system. This, at least, appears to have escaped being retconned, as it is never a lack of range that has the Mothership leave hyperspace in [=HW2=] (nor in Cataclysm, actually...).

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** There are theoretically ways to create a "strip-fusion" weapon that will use environmental materials for a self-sustaining chain reaction. Most of the theory revolves around turning any water into nuclear fusion fuel because the bar is significantly lower, but a strip-fusion weapon that runs on atmospheric oxygen ''might'' be possible. Kharak's atmosphere is essentially being turned into a star. Briefly.


** As well, the Mothership is forced out on its journey before its sublight engines can be brought online and spends the entire game as a stationary object, jumping through hyperspace from one fixed location to another. Yet the opening cinematic of [=HW2=] shows it cruising along surrounded by its fleet very ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Classic}}''-like. In skirmishes and multiplayer matches, the Mothership ''is'' mobile however, as it is in [=HW2=] as well.

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** As well, the Mothership is forced out on its journey before its sublight engines can be brought online and spends the entire game as a stationary object, jumping through hyperspace from one fixed location to another. Yet the opening cinematic of [=HW2=] shows it cruising along surrounded by its fleet very ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Classic}}''-like.Galactica|1978}}''-like. In skirmishes and multiplayer matches, the Mothership ''is'' mobile however, as it is in [=HW2=] as well.


*** In the mission where you acquire the Dreadnaught, if you look out of the map bounds you can see another dreadnaught berth...
** There are a number of statements like that that are shoehorned into the game, especially the ending. "[After the hyperspace cores were united] Ancient conflicts came to an end." Why? How? "The Eye of Aran was discovered." The what? Why has this never been mentioned before? "It was opened by the power of the three." Why? Slow down! "A great network of hyperspace gates, perfectly preserved in the void..." STAHP

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*** In the mission where you acquire the Dreadnaught, if you look out of the map bounds you can see another dreadnaught berth...
** There are a number of statements like that that are shoehorned into the game, especially the ending. "[After the hyperspace cores were united] Ancient conflicts came to an end." Why? How? "The Eye of Aran was discovered." The what? Why has this never been mentioned before? "It was opened by the power of the three." Why? Slow down! "A great network of hyperspace gates, perfectly preserved in the void..." STAHP
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