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** Perhaps the manacles were more metaphor than literal, so instead of literally binding his hands the device instead bound him to the waters, just as it bound Jeanne to the shore(s). Remember that in Annie's "manacle as maze" view he appears as a monster made of water, therefore he could very well ''be'' the waters. It's entirely possible that the arrow was meant to trap him as a backup barrier to drown anything that made it by Jeanne, but that's never been relevant because A) he's not as hateful as his liver, and B) nothing makes it by Jeanne.

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** Perhaps the manacles were more metaphor than literal, so instead of literally binding his hands the device instead bound him to the waters, just as it bound Jeanne to the shore(s). Remember that in Annie's "manacle as maze" view he appears as a monster made of water, therefore he could very well ''be'' the waters. It's entirely possible that the arrow was meant to trap him as a backup barrier to drown anything that made it by Jeanne, but that's never been relevant because A) he's not as hateful as his liver, lover, and B) nothing makes it by Jeanne.

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**Perhaps the manacles were more metaphor than literal, so instead of literally binding his hands the device instead bound him to the waters, just as it bound Jeanne to the shore(s). Remember that in Annie's "manacle as maze" view he appears as a monster made of water, therefore he could very well ''be'' the waters. It's entirely possible that the arrow was meant to trap him as a backup barrier to drown anything that made it by Jeanne, but that's never been relevant because A) he's not as hateful as his liver, and B) nothing makes it by Jeanne.

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*** Makes sense for his real hand, but his etheric hand was already clenched in a fist as Kat removed the shackles--she even says "He's got something in his hand..." His etheric hand wouldn't be able to grab it when it floated down, because it was completely covered by the green sealing device, and his real hand wouldn't be able to grab it because, well, his body was a mouldering skeleton. So what happened?


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[[folder:Wait a minute, Annie... (spoilers for Chapter 60)]]
* [[http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1320 Weren't you supposed to make a final report for Jeanne before she died?]] (Admittedly, Andrew's bleeding out and they need to hurry, but still...)
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** Presumably the clip floated down to rest among his bones and he grabbed it as he started reforming.

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[[folder:The blue hair clip (spoilers for Chapter 60)]]
* So it's an adorable moment and all, but... the elf was sealed in the green glowing manacle device long, ''long'' before Annie took a dip in the Annan Waters. So how exactly ''did'' he get a hold of the blue barrette she was wearing?

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** [[http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=777 Jeanne is perfectly aware of what's happened to her]]. She's not happy about it. '''Really''' not happy. When Parley calls her a [[http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=955 'psycho rage ghost of hate']], she's being perfectly accurate--the best hope they've got is to distract her long enough to disable or destroy the device.

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[[folder:Much Ado About Jeanne]]
* If they can communicate with Jeanne, then why are they trying to do this convoluted plan of hitting her while she's distracted? Just talk to her. I'm sure she would stand down and stop trying to kill people if she knew what was going on with her, and even try to help.
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** This troper got the sense that the secrecy was part of the appeal for them. They enjoy inhabiting the role of star-crossed lovers, so they don't go out of their way to see that their friends would be fine with it.


Why is their relationship a secret? Why doesn't anyone believe them when they openly confess it multiple times? And why are they suddenly so bound and determined to keep it a secret?
* Janet's dad being headmaster probably has something to do with them keeping mum (Bud says he'd have a fit if he knew), plus the fact that they started dating and having secret make-out sessions when they were preteens would make any parent nervous.
* Their behavior is so confusing and over-the-top -- rivalry-style relationship, SarcasticConfession, ''three-hour marriage play'' -- no one knows what to make of it.
* As for why they want to keep their relationship secret it's still a mystery: they're both humans from Gunnerkrigg (as far as we know), old enough to date, aren't believed to be with anyone else (which got Willy caught up in Kat's idea that he liked Annie in the first place and why he couldn't refuse being pushed into asking her out) and don't have to worry about LGBTQ-phobia or destroying the world if they break up (lord help us if Gamma gets tired of putting up with Zimmy's issues).

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* Why is their relationship a secret? Why doesn't anyone believe them when they openly confess it multiple times? And why are they suddenly so bound and determined to keep it a secret?
* ** Janet's dad being headmaster probably has something to do with them keeping mum (Bud says he'd have a fit if he knew), plus the fact that they started dating and having secret make-out sessions when they were preteens would make any parent nervous.
* ** Their behavior is so confusing and over-the-top -- rivalry-style relationship, SarcasticConfession, ''three-hour marriage play'' -- no one knows what to make of it.
* ** As for why they want to keep their relationship secret it's still a mystery: they're both humans from Gunnerkrigg (as far as we know), old enough to date, aren't believed to be with anyone else (which got Willy caught up in Kat's idea that he liked Annie in the first place and why he couldn't refuse being pushed into asking her out) and don't have to worry about LGBTQ-phobia or destroying the world if they break up (lord help us if Gamma gets tired of putting up with Zimmy's issues).



* Someone posted the original poem where Janet and Willy get their names from, wherein Janet's father's about to hang her for consorting with William but stops once he sees [[PimpedOutDress how fine William's clothes are]] -- he's clearly a man of means and worthy of his daughter. That combined with an earlier idea I had gives me this: secret preteen makeouts aside Janet's dad would reject Willy simply because he isn't special enough for Janet. Janet is a supernaturally good at aiming sports (Double Strike!) and very well-read in classic literature; compared to the other boys in this series he's just average: he's not a tech-wizard like Jack and Donald, a knight like James, a doctor like Anthony or a musician like John. The only notable thing he's done is being sympathetic to Annie after making fun of her when she first appeared at Gunnerkrigg: sending her a "get well" card (of sorts) and constantly worrying about her according to Kat. Maybe he'll be the [[Literature/TheHungerGames Peeta to Janet's Katniss]].

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* ** Someone posted the original poem where Janet and Willy get their names from, wherein Janet's father's about to hang her for consorting with William but stops once he sees [[PimpedOutDress how fine William's clothes are]] -- he's clearly a man of means and worthy of his daughter. That combined with an earlier idea I had gives me this: secret preteen makeouts aside Janet's dad would reject Willy simply because he isn't special enough for Janet. Janet is a supernaturally good at aiming sports (Double Strike!) and very well-read in classic literature; compared to the other boys in this series he's just average: he's not a tech-wizard like Jack and Donald, a knight like James, a doctor like Anthony or a musician like John. The only notable thing he's done is being sympathetic to Annie after making fun of her when she first appeared at Gunnerkrigg: sending her a "get well" card (of sorts) and constantly worrying about her according to Kat. Maybe he'll be the [[Literature/TheHungerGames Peeta to Janet's Katniss]].

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** Jones is a stone, except indestructible. She probably doesn't have any etheric component to her being. Thus, unstoppable force (Jeanne) meets immovable object (Jones), and, like in the physics thought experiment, they [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eKc5kgPVrA fail to interact]].


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* There should be a gate to prevent students from walking across the bridge to Gillitie Wood.
** A bridge would cast a shadow, allowing the glass-eyed men to escape.
** A guard would be better. You could argue that the protagonist used a brief window of time between switching of the guard. You might also argue that for some reason they either left no guard as a sign of trust or something like that. It's likely that the students simply do not go there for some reason. You can also argue for conspiracy theories about letting the protagonist do her thing.
** There is a guard. Jeanne.
** The bridge is presumably kept open to allow mediums and other communicators to cross when they wish, but there's an [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=114 alarm]] that goes off when the students step onto the bridge to prevent unauthorised crossings.
** The alarm only goes off when ''students'' cross the bridge. You'd think that the court knows of the animosity toward robots that certain Gillitie residents have.
** The only robot that crossed the bridge was a new one built by a student out of spare parts. All of the other robots obey their orders and don't cross the bridge anyway. Judging by the way Ysengrin reacted to Robot's intrusion, they ''don't'' ever cross the bridge.
** A drawbridge would be more effective than a bridge at preventing students from crossing, but an unguarded bridge is likely part of the same agreement that keeps the Court separate from the Woods.
** Said agreement was authored by Coyote. He likely wants the bridge set up that way in order to keep everyone on their toes, and because it's funny.

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* Speaking of that chapter, I really hope the Nobodies are not conscious beings. If they are, then Annie and Gamma have blood on their hands.
** I'm pretty sure they're just hallucinations.
** As I recall, Tom mentioned in his Formspring that they are echoes of Zimmy's memories, and she may lose those memories as the Nobodies are destroyed, but she doesn't find this a bad thing. Presumably those memories aren't very good.

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[[folder:Annie as her mother's replacement]]

* I'm worried that the storyline is moving towards the idea that Annie should be the school's next medium just because her mother was one and she has the powers, even though she has shown no interest in getting the actual job.
** Jones' Mediation course was completely optional. Annie chose to take it. That implies interest in the job.
** I doubt anyone could make her take the job if she didn't want it.

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* Someone posted the original poem where Janet and Willy get their names from, wherein Janet's father's about to hang her for consorting with William but stops once he sees [[PimpedOutDress how fine William's clothes are]] -- he's clearly a man of means and worthy of his daughter. That combined with an earlier idea I had gives me this: secret preteen makeouts aside Janet's dad would reject Willy simply because he isn't special enough for Janet. Janet is a supernaturally good at aiming sports (Double Strike!) and very well-read in classic literature; compared to the other boys in this series he's just average: he's not a tech-wizard like Jack and Donald, a knight like James, a doctor like Anthony or a musician like John. The only notable thing he's done is being sympathetic to Annie after making fun of her when she first appeared at Gunnerkrigg: sending her a "get well" card (of sorts) and constantly worrying about her according to Kat. Maybe he'll be the [[Literature/TheHungerGames Peeta to Janet's Katniss]].



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** She currently seems to be ok, going out without makeup.




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** I'm going to go with "Future God Kat" if she (or future biomech engineers) succeeds in making robots flesh, granting them the ability to influence the aether like humans and create their own gods and monsters.


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* Janet's dad being headmaster probably has something to do with them keeping mum (Bud says he'd have a fit if he knew), plus the fact that they started dating and having secret make-out sessions when they were preteens would make any parent nervous.
* Their behavior is so confusing and over-the-top -- rivalry-style relationship, SarcasticConfession, ''three-hour marriage play'' -- no one knows what to make of it.
* As for why they want to keep their relationship secret it's still a mystery: they're both humans from Gunnerkrigg (as far as we know), old enough to date, aren't believed to be with anyone else (which got Willy caught up in Kat's idea that he liked Annie in the first place and why he couldn't refuse being pushed into asking her out) and don't have to worry about LGBTQ-phobia or destroying the world if they break up (lord help us if Gamma gets tired of putting up with Zimmy's issues).
** It's kind of amazing/ironic Annie accepted their choice to remain a secret considering how tone-deaf she can be about emotions and relationships and how infuriated she got when Ysengrin didn't recognize how important her problems were to her.

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[[folder:William and Janet]]
Why is their relationship a secret? Why doesn't anyone believe them when they openly confess it multiple times? And why are they suddenly so bound and determined to keep it a secret?
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