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*** Gene McDuck does have a nice ring to it, though would complicate an already [[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/scrooge-mcduck/images/b/bf/La_Grande_Famille_de_Donald_Duck.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20191230125151 extensive family tree]].

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*** Gene McDuck [=McDuck=] does have a nice ring to it, though would complicate an already [[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/scrooge-mcduck/images/b/bf/La_Grande_Famille_de_Donald_Duck.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20191230125151 extensive family tree]].

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*** Gene McDuck does have a nice ring to it, though would complicate an already [[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/scrooge-mcduck/images/b/bf/La_Grande_Famille_de_Donald_Duck.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20191230125151 extensive family tree]].


*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar [[=/=]]McDuck[[=/=]] residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.

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*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar [[=/=]]McDuck[[=/=]] [=McDuck=] residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.


*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar [[=]]McDuck[[/=]] residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.

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*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar [[=]]McDuck[[/=]] [[=/=]]McDuck[[=/=]] residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.


*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar McDuck residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.

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*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar McDuck [[=]]McDuck[[/=]] residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.

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*** Its implied Genie was a LiteralGenie, bending ''not breaking'', the laws of physics. Giving a toy that already exists, sentience. That baby elephant with the ribbon seemed to belong ''to someone else'' and immediately panics when brought into the unfamiliar McDuck residence. Likewise, Dijon wanting to be rich simply gave him all of Scrooge's wealth. Materializing new gold into existence from nothing is impossible, and would actually ''devalue the existing gold'', thus a self-defeating wish.

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** Don't forget that Scrooge has seen hundreds of creatures and events that fall into the realms of mythical, supernatural, even extraterrestrial. Magic and mystical creatures are not unknown to him. A strange boy with a name that has not been used in hundreds of years if ever, but used for a mythical creature would tip him off. Especially when strange things started to occur.

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*** '''This.''' When Gene said "wishes, not miracles", that was the response to Huey's wish for "peace and happiness all over the world". That would mean removing every single unpleasant thing from the world, potentially altering the minds of billions of people. Compared to that, turning one genie to a boy, bringing one set of toys alive, creating one baby elephant on the spot, and even making Dijon the legal owner of all of Scrooge's possessions, is fairly low-scale and more specific.


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*** "Peace and happiness all over the world" would have been pretty selfless, though.

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** Well, define "wish". Gene precisely describes "world peace" as "a miracle, not a wish"; and wishing for a thousand wishes is asking for the genie to do something in a self-referential way, rather than asking for ''something''; I think it isn't a wish either by Gene's definition. (Gene's rules seem to limit "wish" to concrete, objective things, as opposed to abstract demands.) So it's perfectly accurate to say "Merlock's Talisman" is the only ''actual'' wish he won't grant as an exception; the rest aren't wishes. To say otherwise is like saying, "Ostriches are the only really giant birds!" "But elephants are pretty big too! That mean ostriches aren't the only really large birds!".

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** I don't share your interpretation of the "I do wishes, not miracles" line. It seemed to me more about how he could do ''specific things'', but not change the fundamental nature of the world at large; e.g. he can do things like sink ''that'' specific city there, or turn ''that'' genie into ''a'' boy, or create ''a'' sundae ''here'', but he can't just "end war and strife" in general.

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** Look, you guys, the above is true there's several types of immortality you can choose from in fiction but this is all academic. The first troper had it right: later stories make it clear that Merlock ''did'', as a matter of fact, survive.


** The Genie is already in the body of a child, al the wish does is take away his powers.

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** The Genie is already in the body of a child, al all the wish does is take away his powers.powers.
*** In this case, its honestly what Genie wanted. Even if Scrooge had just given him freedom while still having access to his powers, there would still be potential for people like Merlock to come to use him to get wishes granted. Just because he wouldn't be bond to the lamp anymore doesn't mean that no one could take advantage of him or force him to do things he didn't want anymore. By becoming a completely normal boy though, there's no way he'd be trapped into that same type of enslavement ever again (unless somebody uses magic to change him back if that's possible though they'd have to know he use to be a genie in the first place). So this basically just made it so that Genie won't have powers anymore and he'll probably miss them sometimes, but overall I think he's satisfied with finally having freedom and no more masters.

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** Fear is relative. To give an example, the vast majority of spiders in the world are completely harmless to humans, yet a sizeable chunk of humanity would rather do ''anything'' other than face one down. Facing down a dangerous foe is just something Scrooge is more comfortable with than Launchpad's flying.

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** He did survive, if video game ''Goin' Quackers!'' has anything to say about it. Merlock being at the villains' meeting in one panel of the ''Dangerous Currency'' comic arc does suggest this is canon, too.


** Immortality also does not means invulnerability. Falling from that high would break every single bone in his body and other many internal injuries, so even if he survived he really ''really'' suffered. And then Scrooge makes his wish that turns the Genie into non-Genie voiding all his magic a previous wishes, even if Merlok was still alive his enjuries became mortal at that point (thankfully for him). Pretty harsh for a kids' movie if you think about it.

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** Immortality also does not means invulnerability. Falling from that high would break every single bone in his body and other many internal injuries, so even if he survived he really ''really'' suffered. And then Scrooge makes his wish that turns the Genie into non-Genie voiding all his magic a and previous wishes, even if Merlok was still alive his enjuries injuries became mortal at that point (thankfully for him). Pretty harsh for a kids' movie if you think about it.

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