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** Doesn't he explain this specifically in the film, that he knew Danny shone but didn't know ''how'' brightly until things at the Overlook went to hell? I think the assumption was he was hoping the ghosts would leave Danny alone, but Danny shines like a million-watt bulb which drew the bad things in like moths to a flame?



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** It is handwaved in the book as Dick didn't explain it to Danny because Danny was too young, at five, to understand. It's a fair assumption that this includes both the abuse Dick experienced as a young boy and the complexities of putting the ghosts in a box.


* The Doylist explanation is obviously that when the original novel was published, shining didn't have the same rules as it does in the sequel - but is there a Watsonian reason Hallorann would not mention to a five-year-old who he is leaving in a hotel full of restless spirits that sometimes bad people who are afraid to move on will attach to someone who shines and need to be dealt with? Hallorann had an encounter with the woman in room 217 and knew she was powerful enough to move real things when near (and presumably feeding from) him, let alone Danny, who shone the hardest of anyone Dick had ever met. It seems unlikely Hallorann never felt the need to lockbox any of the Overlook spirits himself, given how long he was there and how bad the place is, but even if he didn't do it there, he's done it in the past, and he never even thinks of the process when prepping Danny for the Overlook's dangers. Afterward, he does not mention it until Danny gets a spirit attachment of his own - and a hefty dose of trauma to boot. This isn't addressed in the novel, so any answers will be WMG, but I'm curious if anyone has a good one. Dick is supposed to like Danny and this retcon means he also knows sometimes the bad things you see are NOT "like pictures in a book." The thing where Danny was winding up the Overlook like a key in a clock was something Danny was left to figure out for himself - a plot point. Dick now has/has had a reason to suspect something like that might happen, and a way to combat it, but it never came up. How do you square that in-universe?

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* The Doylist explanation is obviously that when the original novel was published, shining didn't have the same rules as it does in the sequel - but is there a Watsonian reason Hallorann would not mention to a five-year-old who he is leaving in a hotel full of restless spirits that sometimes bad people who are afraid to move on will attach to someone who shines and need to be dealt with? Hallorann had an encounter with the woman in room 217 (237 in the movie) and knew she was powerful enough to move real things get up from the tub and come after him with conscious intent to harm when near (and presumably feeding from) him, let alone Danny, who shone the hardest of anyone Dick had ever met. It seems unlikely Hallorann never felt the need The parallels with his evil grandfather's postmortem attempts to harm him are clear, but there is no attempt to lockbox any of the Overlook spirits himself, given how long he was there and how bad the place is, but even if he didn't do it there, he's done it in the past, Mrs. Massey, and he never even thinks of the process when prepping Danny for the Overlook's dangers. Afterward, he does not mention it until Danny gets a spirit attachment of his own - and a hefty dose of trauma to boot. This isn't addressed in the novel, so any answers will be WMG, but I'm curious if anyone has a good one. Dick is supposed to like Danny and this Danny. This retcon means he also knows sometimes the bad things you see are NOT "like pictures in a book." book," so during their heart-to-heart in the car he is actually setting Danny up to fail. The thing where Danny was winding up the Overlook like a key in a clock was something Danny was left to figure out for himself - a plot point. Dick now has/has had a reason to suspect something like that might happen, and a way to combat it, but it never came up. How do you square that in-universe?


The Doylist explanation is obviously that when the original novel was published, shining didn't have the same rules as it does in the sequel - but is there a Watsonian reason Hallorann would not mention to a five-year-old who he is leaving in a hotel full of restless spirits that sometimes bad people who are afraid to move on will attach to someone who shines and need to be dealt with? Hallorann had an encounter with the woman in room 217 and knew she was powerful enough to move real things when near (and presumably feeding from) him, let alone Danny, who shone the hardest of anyone Dick had ever met. It seems unlikely Hallorann never felt the need to lockbox any of the Overlook spirits himself, given how long he was there and how bad the place is, but he never even thinks of the process when prepping Danny for the Overlook's dangers. Afterward, he does not mention it until Danny gets a spirit attachment of his own - and a hefty dose of trauma to boot. This isn't addressed in the novel, so any answers will be WMG, but I'm curious if anyone has a good one. Dick is supposed to like Danny and want him to be safe. How do you square that?

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* The Doylist explanation is obviously that when the original novel was published, shining didn't have the same rules as it does in the sequel - but is there a Watsonian reason Hallorann would not mention to a five-year-old who he is leaving in a hotel full of restless spirits that sometimes bad people who are afraid to move on will attach to someone who shines and need to be dealt with? Hallorann had an encounter with the woman in room 217 and knew she was powerful enough to move real things when near (and presumably feeding from) him, let alone Danny, who shone the hardest of anyone Dick had ever met. It seems unlikely Hallorann never felt the need to lockbox any of the Overlook spirits himself, given how long he was there and how bad the place is, but even if he didn't do it there, he's done it in the past, and he never even thinks of the process when prepping Danny for the Overlook's dangers. Afterward, he does not mention it until Danny gets a spirit attachment of his own - and a hefty dose of trauma to boot. This isn't addressed in the novel, so any answers will be WMG, but I'm curious if anyone has a good one. Dick is supposed to like Danny and want him this retcon means he also knows sometimes the bad things you see are NOT "like pictures in a book." The thing where Danny was winding up the Overlook like a key in a clock was something Danny was left to be safe. figure out for himself - a plot point. Dick now has/has had a reason to suspect something like that might happen, and a way to combat it, but it never came up. How do you square that?that in-universe?

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The Doylist explanation is obviously that when the original novel was published, shining didn't have the same rules as it does in the sequel - but is there a Watsonian reason Hallorann would not mention to a five-year-old who he is leaving in a hotel full of restless spirits that sometimes bad people who are afraid to move on will attach to someone who shines and need to be dealt with? Hallorann had an encounter with the woman in room 217 and knew she was powerful enough to move real things when near (and presumably feeding from) him, let alone Danny, who shone the hardest of anyone Dick had ever met. It seems unlikely Hallorann never felt the need to lockbox any of the Overlook spirits himself, given how long he was there and how bad the place is, but he never even thinks of the process when prepping Danny for the Overlook's dangers. Afterward, he does not mention it until Danny gets a spirit attachment of his own - and a hefty dose of trauma to boot. This isn't addressed in the novel, so any answers will be WMG, but I'm curious if anyone has a good one. Dick is supposed to like Danny and want him to be safe. How do you square that?

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