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** Mikan's just a REALLY good nurse.



** 5.(You asked a question that has a very long answer, but here's the summarized version.) Nagito considers certain people "worthless"; people without talent, and people with a worthless talent. (Ex; Hajime is in the first category, Nagito is in the second.) Those who are “worthless" must become stepping stones for those who have "worth" (ie; talent) so that person can reach the Ultimate Hope. The other students used to have "worth", because of their talents. However, when he found out they were Ultimate Despair, they became part of the second category. When he realized they were "worthless", they had to become stepping stones for the only person left with hope. The traitor. Nagito, just like he doesn't believe he can be saved from his worthlessness, doesn't think the others can either.

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** 5.(You asked a question that has a very long answer, but here's the summarized version.) Nagito considers certain people "worthless"; people without talent, and people with a worthless talent. (Ex; Hajime is in the first category, Nagito is in the second.) Those who are “worthless" "worthless" must become stepping stones for those who have "worth" (ie; talent) so that person can reach the Ultimate Hope. The other students used to have "worth", because of their talents. However, when he found out they were Ultimate Despair, they became part of the second category. When he realized they were "worthless", they had to become stepping stones for the only person left with hope. The traitor. Nagito, just like he doesn't believe he can be saved from his worthlessness, doesn't think the others can either.
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***It also seems like Monokuma usually lets people go if his execution doesn't quite succeed the first time. (Memorable example being Mondo in THE when he fought with Monokuma just like Akane did, and despite not being blown up by the bomb, Monokuma lets him off.)

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*** Turns out, the answer is brainwashing. Junko forcibly made them love despair like her using Ryota's anime.



* 1.With the clues Nagito had, and his obvious intelligence, he could have figured out who the traitor was. If his thought process was “the traitor is likely Hajime or Chiaki, since they weren’t mentioned on the website, and the journal explicitly mentions helping Hajime, so it’s likely to be Chiaki”, or even that the student profiles held a clue of who the traitor was, then he could figure it out. However, he still would have killed Chiaki the same way. He wanted the students to vote for him committing suicide, and barring that, he especially had to make sure no one found out it was Chiaki who killed him. Otherwise, they would vote for her. So he committed his crime in a way that it would rely on his luck. So he might have known, but it wouldn’t change his actions.

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* 1.With the clues Nagito had, and his obvious intelligence, he could have figured out who the traitor was. If his thought process was “the traitor is likely Hajime or Chiaki, since they weren’t mentioned on the website, and the journal explicitly mentions helping Hajime, so it’s likely to be Chiaki”, or even that the student profiles held a clue of who the traitor was, then he could figure it out. However, he still would have killed Chiaki the same way. He wanted the students to vote for him committing suicide, and barring that, he especially had to make sure no one found out it was Chiaki who killed him. Otherwise, they would vote for her. So he committed his crime in a way that it would rely on his luck.luck, so the inadvertent killer will leave no evidence. So he might have known, but it wouldn’t change his actions.



** 4.Firstly, even if he thought Chiaki was the traitor, there’a always the possibility he’s wrong. Nagito trusted his luck far more than his own reasoning. This was a failsafe. Secondly, he did it for the aforementioned reason of preventing the worst case scenario of someone finding out about the plan. Lastly, he went so far in order to make his own death look more planned out. The original plan was to make it look like someone else tortured him to death, just so that they would reason there was more to it and find about the “suicide”. He knew they expected a plan under the plan. (So he made a plan under the plan under the plan. Planception.)


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** 4.Firstly, even if he thought Chiaki was the traitor, there’a always the possibility he’s wrong. Nagito trusted his luck far more than his own reasoning. This was a failsafe. Secondly, he did it for the aforementioned reason of preventing the worst case worst-case scenario of someone finding out about the plan. Lastly, he went so far in order to make his own death look more planned out. The original plan was to make it look like someone else tortured him to death, just so that they would reason there was more to it and find about the “suicide”. He knew they expected a plan under the plan. plan (So he made a plan under the plan under the plan. Planception.)

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** Either some mad science growth magic or just RuleOfCool.


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** One possible plan is that Junko would fake the students' original personalities so they don't know who's contaminated, or that it's a test run before she does it en masse.
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** There's also Nagito's Ultimate Good Luck, which might interfere to keep Nagito alive even if Nagito's okay with it. Better to choose someone who you know is fighting on even level with you.
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** If the rest of the class was able to determine that Mikan was lying about the times of death it would have immediately cast suspicion on her. Telling them that she can't determine the time of death and having a good reason for it would be much less damning. It's also wiser to assume you can't plan for every possible contingency and aim to minimize the damage of mistakes made rather than risk everything on bigger lies.

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** If the rest of the class was able to determine that Mikan was lying about the times of death it would have immediately cast suspicion on her. Telling them that she can't determine the time of death and having a good reason for it would be much less damning. It's also wiser to assume you can't plan for every possible contingency and aim to minimize the damage of mistakes made rather than risk everything on bigger lies.lies.
* If Ibuki was in a state where she would listen to anything that anybody says, couldn’t Mikan have just told her to kill herself? The thing that makes this a point of contention is who would become the Blackened. Sakura’s death is the only other suicide case and she was the blackened in that scenario, although she wasn’t told by anyone else to kill herself. If Ibuki would become the Blackened, that wouldn’t help Mikan since she was attempting to become the Blackened to kill everybody else and escape to the real world, but if it made Mikan the blackened, then if things went smoothly and nobody witnessed it, it would basically be a perfect murder with nobody able to prove who told Ibuki to kill herself. Hell, they might never even come to the conclusion that she was influenced, but they knew what state she was in so they would probably find out. Unless Mikan seriously messes up, the only way for her to get found out is Nagito’s luck, and that would’ve just made for an interesting case that built up Nagito’s abilities before they became super plot relevant. If it led to neither of them being the blackened, it could still be taken advantage of by Mikan to thin out the remaining students a bit before committing an actual murder, and Ibuki’s death could throw people off. Once again, we don’t know what would happen if Mikan told Ibuki to kill herself, but she could’ve just privately asked Monokuma for clarification regarding the rules.
* (FULL SPOILERS FOR THE FIRST 2 GAMES) Why are there suddenly 16 students as a normal part of the killing game? 15 is a pretty clean number and the presence of the 16th student in Danganronpa 1 was a big deal, so it’s odd that there just are 16 of them in this one. It’s especially strange since this game’s cast was largely filler, only having 3 important characters while there’s still a double murder chapter and several filler characters as survivors, so it’s not like they needed all those characters. Danganronpa 2 did play with and purposefully trivialize plot elements from the first game, like how Monokuma casually revealed in chapter 1 that everybody’s memories of 2 years were erased as if it’s a joke when that same twist is one of the most important reveals in the first game, but they never make light of the 16th student’s presence. While the Ultimate Imposter was an oddball member of the cast, he ultimately didn’t have much plot relevance so it likely isn’t him. My guess is that it’s either Hajime since he was a reserve course student and doubles as Izuru Kamakura, or Chiaki since she’s a future foundation spy and the only real non A.I., but it’s really hard to tell which. The same can be said about V3’s cast where [[spoiler:there are 4 oddball characters: Tsumugi, the mastermind, Rantaro, the Ultimate Survivor, Kokichi, the Remant of Despair who snuck Monokuma onto the ship, and K1-B0, the audience surrogate and only non-actor]], but I won’t get too into that on the Danganronpa 2 page.
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* How did Makoto and the Future Foundation round up the Remnants of Despair and place them into a simulation? After all, these are 15 dangerous criminals who would definitely kill anyone on-sight.
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* Something that the series has constantly stated is that peoples feelings for a person survive even the loss of their memories, something that LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero was practically about. Despite this, absolutely no one bar Nagito reacts if you give them a portrait of Junko. Not even Mikan, who is all but stated to have been in love with her reacts. [[FlatWhat What]].

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* Something that the series has constantly stated is that peoples feelings for a person survive even the loss of their memories, something that LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero ''Literature/DanganronpaZero'' was practically about. Despite this, absolutely no one bar Nagito reacts if you give them a portrait of Junko. Not even Mikan, who is all but stated to have been in love with her reacts. [[FlatWhat What]].



** It's implied very heavily in ''LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero'' that her talent is actually the Ultimate Analyst, which she hid by using it to act as the Ultimate Fashionista. She can look at information on a situation, or a person, and accurately predict how it will react to specific stimulus. She already manipulated every member of the group into becoming Ultimate Despair. Doing something as simple as prodding them into murdering along some basic themes would be ''easy'' for her.

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** It's implied very heavily in ''LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero'' ''Literature/DanganronpaZero'' that her talent is actually the Ultimate Analyst, which she hid by using it to act as the Ultimate Fashionista. She can look at information on a situation, or a person, and accurately predict how it will react to specific stimulus. She already manipulated every member of the group into becoming Ultimate Despair. Doing something as simple as prodding them into murdering along some basic themes would be ''easy'' for her.
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* Something that the series has constantly stated is that peoples feelings for a person survive even the loss of their memories, something that LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero was practically about. Despite this, absolutely no one bar Nagito reacts if you give them a portrait of Junko. Not even Mikan, who is all but stated to of been in love with her reacts. [[FlatWhat What]].

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* Something that the series has constantly stated is that peoples feelings for a person survive even the loss of their memories, something that LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero was practically about. Despite this, absolutely no one bar Nagito reacts if you give them a portrait of Junko. Not even Mikan, who is all but stated to of have been in love with her reacts. [[FlatWhat What]].
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** It's probably Nagito's luck. It was his plan after all, and he was lucky that "Byakuya" died without making a sound.
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** I'd chalk it up to Nagito's luck. It was his plan after all, and he was lucky that "Byakuya" died without making a sound.
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** I'd chalk it up to Nagito's luck. It was his plan after all, and he was lucky that "Byakuya" died without making a sound.
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** In-universe it’s difficult to think of an explanation, because unlike V3, there isn’t any evidence of the mastermind messing with people’s personalities and such. But Junko did say that her goal was to make the survivors of THH watch a killing game similar to their own, because she wants them to turn up to try and stop her and thus fall into despair, yada yada. It’s possible that she chose the motives and given information carefully in order to encourage similar murder setups as in THH. Not much explanation for the character parallels that isn’t meta though — apart from that it’s possible Hope’s Peak purposely tries to get a mix of types of people in their classes each year (there’s always a sport talent, a music talent, some kind of other creativity [writing and photography]) anyway.
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** Junko needed at least some of the students alive, or else Makoto would have just pulled the plug on the program and trapped her AI inside. She also needed to make sure that less than half were alive, or else they would have voted to cancel the program and keep her from possessing the bodies. In that context the fun house was probably an act of minor desperation, as she was closing in on her goal.She also needed to ensure there were enough students remaining that Makoto could put himself in danger to help secure a majority vote, so repeated hardball tactics may have proven too risky.



* Why did Mikan feel the need to disguise the time of Ibuki and Hiyoko's deaths with the AC? The info in the Monokuma files clearly aren't gleamed from actual autopsies, but rather from Monokuma/the mastermind's knowledge of the crime, given that they're instantly given out while the bodies are still fresh. That said, the only reason she'd need to do that is to fool the other students, but Mikan is the nurse & the team's makeshift coroner up to that point. She just had to lie and pretend she worked out when they died; since both Ibuki and Hiyoko had been dead for some time, there'd be little noticable difference in body tempeture between the two, not enough for an amature to notice. For that matter, all her trick with the AC did was make everyone immediately suspicious of the order of deaths. It'd have made more sense for her to have just lied, rather then throwing people off to something only she'd know have claim to be able to definitely know anyway.

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* Why did Mikan feel the need to disguise the time of Ibuki and Hiyoko's deaths with the AC? The info in the Monokuma files clearly aren't gleamed from actual autopsies, but rather from Monokuma/the mastermind's knowledge of the crime, given that they're instantly given out while the bodies are still fresh. That said, the only reason she'd need to do that is to fool the other students, but Mikan is the nurse & the team's makeshift coroner up to that point. She just had to lie and pretend she worked out when they died; since both Ibuki and Hiyoko had been dead for some time, there'd be little noticable difference in body tempeture between the two, not enough for an amature to notice. For that matter, all her trick with the AC did was make everyone immediately suspicious of the order of deaths. It'd have made more sense for her to have just lied, rather then throwing people off to something only she'd know have claim to be able to definitely know anyway.anyway.
** If the rest of the class was able to determine that Mikan was lying about the times of death it would have immediately cast suspicion on her. Telling them that she can't determine the time of death and having a good reason for it would be much less damning. It's also wiser to assume you can't plan for every possible contingency and aim to minimize the damage of mistakes made rather than risk everything on bigger lies.
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** It's probably a variant of the loophole Monokuma used to avoid punishing Nagito for threatening to blow up the island. He ''threatened'' them with murder, and he made them miserable, but he never actually killed anyone. It's possible the whole setup was a bluff and Monokuma was just hoping that one of them would crack under the stress and murder someone before his programming limitations forced him to step in and save them.
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** It's possible that Monokuma was bluffing; they were never actually in danger of dying because the whole thing takes place in a simulation, but none of them know that. He was banking on at least one of them getting desparate enough to kill before they realized that they weren't actually dying. In real life, it's possible to survive for at least a week or two without eating, as long as you have access to water, so he could've let them stew in their misery for quite a while before any of them caught on.
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* In chapter 4, Monokuma keeps everyone in the funhouse against their will, and starves them, potentially until they're dead. Doesn't that count of as murder? Monokuma literally says in chapter 2 that anything other than dying of illness is considered murder, and when they were keeping Nagito chained up the other characters were concerned about him dying of starvation and that counting as murder. But the rules directly state that Monokuma can't do that, which in other moments forced Monokuma stop people dying in case it violated said rule. For some reason the game never brings this up or addresses it.


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** The fact that it apparently didn't break the rules is what's most bizarre. They showed way too much evidence to the contrary in previous chapters for that to be remotely feasible. What Monokuma did should've definitely counted as murder and a very blatant rule violation, given the stress put on any death that isn't of natural causes being considered a murder.
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** The same reason why a lot of Danganronpa's more dumb plot points happen: its part of the joke. The series routinely uses selfaware handwaves or outright meta dismissal of how stupid a lot of the plot points and happenstances are. It's just thow Danganronpa is, it's the series doing it's usual thing. The weird thing about this point in particular though is that for some reason they had Monomi present in the class trials, even though it would've been conveniant to use this as the excuse for why she defeats a Monobeast during each one, while the students are safe underground.
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* In the first chapter, how did Byakuya get stabbed ''10 times'' without making a single exclamation of pain, let alone any screaming? I guess you could explain it by saying that the first stab caused instantaneous death and he didn't have time to get anything out, but given how the case puts a lot of stress onto the point that Teruteru couldn't actually see above the flooring and was using the glow as a guide for where to stab at, that handwave seems pretty dumb. The main point that I find weird though is that no one brings this up, and that the game never bothers explaining it at all, not even with the above mentioned handwave. It seems especially strange, too, given that the game puts so much empathise onto what could be heard during the blackout, including Ibuki picking up on the "ow!" from when Byakuya fought with Nagito.

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* In the first chapter, how did Byakuya get stabbed ''10 times'' without making a single exclamation of pain, let alone any screaming? I guess you could explain it by saying that the first stab caused instantaneous death and he didn't have time to get anything out, but given how the case puts a lot of stress onto the point that Teruteru couldn't actually see above the flooring and was using the glow as a guide for where to stab at, that handwave seems pretty dumb. The main point that I find weird though is that no one brings this up, and that the game never bothers explaining it at all, not even with the above mentioned handwave. It seems especially strange, too, given that the game puts so much empathise onto what could be heard during the blackout, including Ibuki picking up on the "ow!" from when Byakuya fought with Nagito.Nagito.
* Why did Mikan feel the need to disguise the time of Ibuki and Hiyoko's deaths with the AC? The info in the Monokuma files clearly aren't gleamed from actual autopsies, but rather from Monokuma/the mastermind's knowledge of the crime, given that they're instantly given out while the bodies are still fresh. That said, the only reason she'd need to do that is to fool the other students, but Mikan is the nurse & the team's makeshift coroner up to that point. She just had to lie and pretend she worked out when they died; since both Ibuki and Hiyoko had been dead for some time, there'd be little noticable difference in body tempeture between the two, not enough for an amature to notice. For that matter, all her trick with the AC did was make everyone immediately suspicious of the order of deaths. It'd have made more sense for her to have just lied, rather then throwing people off to something only she'd know have claim to be able to definitely know anyway.
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** Althernatively, Peko's alibi was just that she had been swimming for a while, to explain why she was wet, as the class trial empathises. The "--for three hours, to find other islands" part was just meant to be a bit of off-handed humour on the game's part.

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** Althernatively, Peko's alibi was just that she had been swimming for a while, to explain why she was wet, as the class trial empathises.emphasises. The "--for three hours, to find other islands" part was just meant to be a bit of off-handed humour on the game's part.
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** Althernatively, Peko's alibi was just that she had been swimming for a while, to explain why she was wet, as the class trial empathises. The "--for three hours, to find other islands" part was just meant to be a bit of off-handed humour on the game's part.

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** From Makoto's perspective, their free will had already been compromised by Junko's brainwashing; the goal of the program was to revert them back to their natural state, free of Junko's influence. In a strict sense, yes, their free will is being violated if they didn't consent to being mindwiped, but their free will was ''already'' violated when Junko turned them into the Remnants of Despair in the first place, so if anything the ultimate goal of the program was to put the choice of whether to follow Junko back into their hands. Also worth noting is the fact that if they ''weren't'' put in the Neo World Program, the Future Foundation would've killed them all anyway, so Makoto probably feels that at least giving them a shot at reforming is ethically preferable to immediate execution.


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** Nagito being Nagito, he'd probably depend on his luck to bail him out; the plan was probably "stab at someone randomly and avoid getting any blood on me by pure happenstance."
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** I'd chalk that up to the joy of despair. Sure, Monokuma COULD just kill Akane, but Akane knows that she was directly responsible for his injuries by not listening, leaving her with incredible guilt. It's just a great source of despair for everyone else too. I think that's why he said they'd just call it even. He was put in a good mood by everyone else's bad moods.

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** I'd chalk that up to the joy of despair. Sure, Monokuma COULD just kill Akane, but Akane knows that she was directly responsible for his injuries by not listening, leaving her with incredible guilt. It's just a great source of despair for everyone else too. I think that's why he said they'd just call it even. He was put in a good mood by everyone else's bad moods.moods.
* In the first chapter, how did Byakuya get stabbed ''10 times'' without making a single exclamation of pain, let alone any screaming? I guess you could explain it by saying that the first stab caused instantaneous death and he didn't have time to get anything out, but given how the case puts a lot of stress onto the point that Teruteru couldn't actually see above the flooring and was using the glow as a guide for where to stab at, that handwave seems pretty dumb. The main point that I find weird though is that no one brings this up, and that the game never bothers explaining it at all, not even with the above mentioned handwave. It seems especially strange, too, given that the game puts so much empathise onto what could be heard during the blackout, including Ibuki picking up on the "ow!" from when Byakuya fought with Nagito.

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* In chapter 3, Akane attacks Monokuma, which is a rule violation, and is set to be blasted by a bazooka as punishment. Nekomaru jumps in the way, and takes the blow, but survives, with Monokuma specifically having to let him live as he hadn’t broken any rules. And then Akane gets to walk free? The interception doesn’t change that she went against the rules, so shouldn’t she still be punished? The rules don’t seem to have any clauses that allow an execution to be cancelled. What’s stopping Monokuma from then just firing a second shot at Akane, or even trying a different execution that’s less liable to interference?

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* In chapter 3, Akane attacks Monokuma, which is a rule violation, and is set to be blasted by a bazooka as punishment. Nekomaru jumps in the way, and takes the blow, but survives, with Monokuma specifically having to let him live as he hadn’t broken any rules. And then Akane gets to walk free? The interception doesn’t change that she went against the rules, so shouldn’t she still be punished? The rules don’t seem to have any clauses that allow an execution to be cancelled. What’s stopping Monokuma from then just firing a second shot at Akane, or even trying a different execution that’s less liable to interference?interference?
** I'd chalk that up to the joy of despair. Sure, Monokuma COULD just kill Akane, but Akane knows that she was directly responsible for his injuries by not listening, leaving her with incredible guilt. It's just a great source of despair for everyone else too. I think that's why he said they'd just call it even. He was put in a good mood by everyone else's bad moods.
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** The question is not why, but how - it's impossible to grow such a length in that amount of time. So, is it a wig or what?
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* We learn in the end that Junko's plan was for everyone on the island to die so she could essentially take over their bodies. She, and therefore Monokuma, couldn't just kill everyone directly due to the rules and restrictions in place, which even Monokuma couldn't circumvent. In chapter 4, however, Monokuma sends the survivors to the Funhouse, and leaves them without food, so they'll starve to death unless they commit murder. If this was an option the whole time, why didn't Monokuma just send them there and deny them food from the start? And for that matter, why didn't he just leave them to starve to death even ''if'' they killed someone? Then everyone would have died for sure, and it clearly didn't break the rules to do so, otherwise he couldn't have done it in chapter 4 for as long as he did.

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* We learn in the end that Junko's plan was for everyone on the island to die so she could essentially take over their bodies. She, and therefore Monokuma, couldn't just kill everyone directly due to the rules and restrictions in place, which even Monokuma couldn't circumvent. In chapter 4, however, Monokuma sends the survivors to the Funhouse, and leaves them without food, so they'll starve to death unless they commit murder. If this was an option the whole time, why didn't Monokuma just send them there and deny them food from the start? And for that matter, why didn't he just leave them to starve to death even ''if'' they killed someone? Then everyone would have died for sure, and it clearly didn't break the rules to do so, otherwise he couldn't have done it in chapter 4 for as long as he did.did.
* In chapter 3, Akane attacks Monokuma, which is a rule violation, and is set to be blasted by a bazooka as punishment. Nekomaru jumps in the way, and takes the blow, but survives, with Monokuma specifically having to let him live as he hadn’t broken any rules. And then Akane gets to walk free? The interception doesn’t change that she went against the rules, so shouldn’t she still be punished? The rules don’t seem to have any clauses that allow an execution to be cancelled. What’s stopping Monokuma from then just firing a second shot at Akane, or even trying a different execution that’s less liable to interference?
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** The Japanese equivalent of the title being "Super High School Level" does seem to imply that they're simply very accomplished for their age. It's less about being the best of the best in the world, and more so being the best of the best among high school students. Sakura from the first game, for instance, mentions in a free time event that she doesn't consider herself the world's strongest person because she's still unable to beat her boyfriend in a fight, and Aoi and Leon being scouted for the Olympics and major league teams respectively doesn't automatically make them the winners. I think it's moreso that everybody with a talent is a prodigy, and Hope's Peak is meant to cultivate this until they ultimately ''do'' become the best of the best in their field.

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** The Japanese equivalent of the title being "Super High School Level" does seem to imply that they're simply very accomplished for their age. It's less about being the best of the best in the world, and more so being the best of the best among high school students. Sakura from the first game, for instance, mentions in a free time event that she doesn't consider herself the world's strongest person because she's still unable to beat her boyfriend in a fight, and Aoi and Leon being scouted for the Olympics and major league teams respectively doesn't automatically make them the winners. I think it's moreso that everybody with a talent is a prodigy, and Hope's Peak is meant to cultivate this until they ultimately ''do'' become the best of the best in their field.field.
* We learn in the end that Junko's plan was for everyone on the island to die so she could essentially take over their bodies. She, and therefore Monokuma, couldn't just kill everyone directly due to the rules and restrictions in place, which even Monokuma couldn't circumvent. In chapter 4, however, Monokuma sends the survivors to the Funhouse, and leaves them without food, so they'll starve to death unless they commit murder. If this was an option the whole time, why didn't Monokuma just send them there and deny them food from the start? And for that matter, why didn't he just leave them to starve to death even ''if'' they killed someone? Then everyone would have died for sure, and it clearly didn't break the rules to do so, otherwise he couldn't have done it in chapter 4 for as long as he did.

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