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** Maybe Charlie simply asked if it was possible. There's nothing in the source material that says Satan is unreasonable in how he conducts business. He already had Charlie's soul to do with as he pleased, meaning he could limit Charlie's time for a goodbye to whatever he wanted it to be, whether it was five minutes or day, knowing that no amount of time would ever really be enough for Charlie's satisfaction. And unless Hell has a track record of losing claimed souls to divine intervention, Satan wouldn't have had reason to expect losing custody of Charlie like he did.

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** Time probably works differently there. Several years could seem like nothing compared to earth years.

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** Itchy probably got stuck in a weird spiritual traffic jam, since Charlie was expecting to hear his name.

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** Because it's spoofing ChandlerAmericanTime tropes.

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* Okay, so the original film is set in 1939 while the sequel is set in the present 90s, yet in the sequel Itchy has apparently just recently died. He would have had to have lived an incredibly long life for a dog.

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** It's a clock and clocks are wound. It's not a huge leap of logic to go from "when this clock stops ticking you're dead" to wonder what would happen if you rewound it. And he already knows or at least suspects that Charlie came back from the dead, so he knows there's a way to do it. So I doubt Carface knew what the clock would do, but was willing to try it. Plus, there is a chance that Carface saw the clock Charlie carried and then connected the dots once he reached Heaven.


* When Charlie goes to heaven the first time, Annabel shows him around and has to explain to him about his life watch, and she's the one who lets slip that it can be wound up to send him back again. So how is it that the second Carface shows up, he immediately knows to grab his clock and wind it up? Charlie kept his watch a pretty closely guarded secret, so it's unlikely Carface would have found out from him. Has Carface been through this before? If so, then why is he allowed back in with no attempt at redemption, and why does Annabel tell him, "Touch that clock and you can never come back!" as if she's imparting new information?

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* When Charlie goes to heaven the first time, Annabel shows him around and has to explain to him about his life watch, and she's the one who lets slip that it can be wound up to send him back again. So how is it that the second Carface shows up, he immediately knows to grab his clock and wind it up? Charlie kept his watch a pretty closely guarded secret, so it's unlikely Carface would have found out from him. Has Carface been through this before? If so, then why is he allowed back in with no attempt at redemption, and why does Annabel tell him, "Touch that clock and you can never come back!" as if she's imparting new information?information?
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** At that point, Anne-Marie was angry at Charlie for not helping the poor or helping her find parents. So she probably just abandoned everything Charlie gave her, knowing it was bought using money he got from gambling, which "isn't right" as far as she's concerned.

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** At that point, Anne-Marie was angry at Charlie for not helping the poor or helping her find parents. So she probably just abandoned everything Charlie gave her, knowing it was bought using money he got from gambling, which "isn't right" as far as she's concerned.concerned.
* When Charlie goes to heaven the first time, Annabel shows him around and has to explain to him about his life watch, and she's the one who lets slip that it can be wound up to send him back again. So how is it that the second Carface shows up, he immediately knows to grab his clock and wind it up? Charlie kept his watch a pretty closely guarded secret, so it's unlikely Carface would have found out from him. Has Carface been through this before? If so, then why is he allowed back in with no attempt at redemption, and why does Annabel tell him, "Touch that clock and you can never come back!" as if she's imparting new information?


** [[TheyJustDidntCare Poor writing]].

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** [[TheyJustDidntCare Poor writing]].writing.

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** Red isn't Satan. If anything, he's a pet of Satan.


** Poor writing.

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** [[TheyJustDidntCare Poor writing.writing]].
** While never outright stated, there are some theories that [[DealWithTheDevil Belladonna bailed him out in exchange for his eternal servitude]].


* Why did Anne-Marie continue to wear her rags after Charlie and Itchy were clearly shown buying her nice, new clothes (which she had earlier expressed wanting desperately, as they might help her attract adoptive parents?)

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* Why did Anne-Marie continue to wear her rags after Charlie and Itchy were clearly shown buying her nice, new clothes (which she had earlier expressed wanting desperately, as they might help her attract adoptive parents?)parents?)
** At that point, Anne-Marie was angry at Charlie for not helping the poor or helping her find parents. So she probably just abandoned everything Charlie gave her, knowing it was bought using money he got from gambling, which "isn't right" as far as she's concerned.


** Well, quite simply, Charlie broke THE RULE: no going back. Die once, free ticket to heaven. Go back by rewinding your watch and you're on your own. Carface ends up in hell via his own actions at the end of the second movie without ever technically being alive. If you have sanction to return to life, which Charlie receives at the end of the second film, you can return to heaven when you die like a normal dog. It isn't that Charlie was worse than everyone else; he broke the only real rule he was confronted with.

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** Well, quite simply, Charlie broke THE RULE: no going back. Die once, free ticket to heaven. Go back by rewinding your watch and you're on your own. Carface ends up in hell via his own actions at the end of the second movie without ever technically being alive. If you have sanction to return to life, which Charlie receives at the end of the second film, you can return to heaven when you die like a normal dog. It isn't that Charlie was worse than everyone else; he broke the only real rule he was confronted with.with.
*Why did Anne-Marie continue to wear her rags after Charlie and Itchy were clearly shown buying her nice, new clothes (which she had earlier expressed wanting desperately, as they might help her attract adoptive parents?)


* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.

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* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.time.
** Well, quite simply, Charlie broke THE RULE: no going back. Die once, free ticket to heaven. Go back by rewinding your watch and you're on your own. Carface ends up in hell via his own actions at the end of the second movie without ever technically being alive. If you have sanction to return to life, which Charlie receives at the end of the second film, you can return to heaven when you die like a normal dog. It isn't that Charlie was worse than everyone else; he broke the only real rule he was confronted with.

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** Maybe Charlie managed to slip out since they aren't used to dealing with dogs down there. Or he managed to con/bargain a chance to say good-bye. Either way, it might have amused Satan enough to watch Charlie have a last look at something he would never have again: his old life and friends.

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