History GoodIsNotSoft / Film

* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker,'' ComicBook/TheJoker is actually furious to learn that, unlike "the real Batman," Terry is willing to fight dirty. And that's ''before'' he utterly deconstructs him in one hell of a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that proceeds to make the Joker utterly [[VillainousBreakdown lose it]].

* Atreyu in ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'' is kind and friendly to his allies, but he's still a warrior and has no problem killing Gmork when he realizes how evil he is.

* ''Film/{{Transformers}}'': The Autobots are some of the nicest beings you'll meet, but they don't go easy on the Decepticons, and they rip them apart limb from limb.
** In the third film, [[spoiler:Optimus Prime himself brutally dispatches Megatron and then mere moments later, his fallen mentor Sentinel Prime -- the latter while he's trying to explain his actions and ''begging Optimus not to shoot''.]]

* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker,'' ComicBook/TheJoker is actually furious to learn that, unlike "the real Batman," Terry is willing to fight dirty.

* Carrie in ''Film/ViciousFun'' wears all black, a leather jacket, copious eyeliner, and favors bloody, messy kills. Luckily for everyone, she only targets serial killers.

** Heck, even [[CloudCuckoolander Edna Mode]] falls under this trope. She's a fashion designer for superheroes, and serves as a large source of comic relief in the film. But she also gets two moments of pure harshness. When she asks if Helen really knows what Bob has been up to, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness all semblance of joking vanishes]] as she repeats the question so pointedly that it sounds like a statement: "Do you ''know'' where he is." Later, when Helen has a HeroicBSOD upon discovering Bob's secret return to heroism, Edna [[ArmorPiercingSlap smacks her around a bit]] and tells her that she needs to pull herself together and save her husband.

--> '''Brambang:''' ''(without a seconds pause)'' You smack 'em. But first of all, dialogue.

* Franchise/{{Robocop}} follows [[RestrainingBolt three directives]]: serve the public trust, protect the innocent, uphold the law. Nothing is said about not coldly blowing away killers, or not brutalizing a suspect before bringing them in (laws concerning how to handle arrested criminals have changed slightly in future Detroit). In the second film, he is programmed with several hundred more directives aimed at improving OCP PR, but those directives make him a terrible police officer. Instead of arresting criminals, he starts lecturing them on the immorality of their actions, while they happily go about their criminal business.

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* Like the Steve Rogers examples, the Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse version of ComicBook/{{Superman}} is every bit the [[NiceGuy altruistic and compassionate individual]] one expects him to be, as demonstrated in his rescue of the soldier firing at him during the battle of Smallville. He also does not hold back his phenomenal strength in his battles with similarly superpowered opponents like the Kryptonians and [[spoiler: Doomsday]], frequently throwing devastating shockwave-creating punches; and when left with absolutely no choice, [[spoiler: ''[[NeckSnap snaps]]'' Zod's neck.]]

--> '''Brambang:''' Convince them, instead of threatening them.
--> '''Goreng:''' But what if they won't listen?

* Dalton from ''Film/RoadHouse'', who tells his fellow bouncers to always "Be nice, until it's time to not be nice."

* The main character, Jason, in ''Jason's Lyric'' is basically a good man and very protective toward his family. But when his troublemaker younger brother, Joshua, drunkenly harasses his girlfriend, Lyric, he doesn't hesitate to punch him. Later, Jason also dares to get into a vicious fight with Lyric's gangster brother, Alonzo "A-1", as a revenge for ever tortured Joshua.

* The main character, Jason, in ''Film/JasonsLyric'' is basically a good man and very protective toward his family. But when his troublemaker younger brother, Joshua, drunkenly harasses his girlfriend, Lyric, he doesn't hesitate to punch him. Later, Jason also dares to get into a vicious fight with Lyric's brother, Alonzo "A-1", as a revenge for ever tortured Joshua.

** The three Parr children also get into their share of fights, despite appearing [[BadassAdorable adorable]]. Violet is willing to use her force fields or other objects to hit people in self-defence, Dash leads multiple henchmen to their deaths in the first film and Jack-Jack goes [[TheBerserker berserk]] at anyone who upsets him, even his own family.

* Like the Steve Rogers example below, the Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse version of ComicBook/{{Superman}} is every bit the [[NiceGuy altruistic and compassionate individual]] one expects him to be, as demonstrated in his rescue of the soldier firing at him during the battle of Smallville. He also does not hold back his phenomenal strength in his battles with similarly superpowered opponents like the Kryptonians and [[spoiler: Doomsday]], frequently throwing devastating shockwave-creating punches; and when left with absolutely no choice, [[spoiler: ''[[NeckSnap snaps]]'' Zod's neck.]]

* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''
** [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]] in the is shown to be one of the nicest, sweetest people you would meet. However, when fighting HYDRA and the invading Chitauri he is merciless, including throwing HYDRA soldiers off airborne aircraft, hacking off Chitauri arms and even throws a knife into a mook’s hand as he tries to signal for help which is straight out the Punisher’s playbook. Steve does dip into the more extreme GoodIsNotNice end of the scale in later films, to point of being a borderline WellIntentionedExtremist in ''[[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Civil War]]'' and in ''[[Film/AvengersEndgame Endgame]]'' is willingly to cruelly exploit his past self grief over Bucky just to defeat him.
** Also Natasha Romanov aka ComicBook/BlackWidow, who is capable of showing great kindness and affection (in particular to Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, and [[spoiler:the]] Barton [[spoiler: family]]) and is capable of joking with Steve about setting him up on a date while at the same time mercilessly killing mercenaries and HYDRA mooks. Played with slightly in that she is [[NoodleIncident legitimately disturbed by some of her past kills]].
** Tony Stark aka ComicBook/IronMan at his best (i.e not being a egotistical jerk) is a FriendToAllChildren who’s more than willingly to sacrifice himself for his team and for the sake of humanity on several occasions as essentially the BigGood of the MCU. But even when saving innocent villagers, he mows down terrorists like a ruthless killing machine, though he is willing to spare surrendering mooks, as seen in ''Film/IronMan3''.
** ComicBook/{{Thor}} a BoisterousBruiser who’s pure hearted to the core, is still an incredibly violent BloodKnight who will go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against those who have hurt his loved ones. He even takes his time making [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar Thanos]] suffer in revenge [[spoiler: after he killed his brother Loki.]]
** Peter Parker aka ComicBook/SpiderMan manages to be even more kind hearted than even Captain America, but when pissed off can be extremely ruthless as [[Film/SpiderManFarFromHome Mysterio]] found out the hard way. He’s got quite the bodycount by the time of ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', thanks to the Instant-Kill mode in his Iron Spider suit. During a [[Film/SpiderManNoWayHome multiversal crisis]] he loses [[spoiler: his aunt May]] and proceeds to deliver a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to [[spoiler: her]] killer, [[spoiler: Characters/MarvelComicsNormanOsborn]] and tries to stab him with his own [[spoiler:glider]]. Unfortunately, a GenreSavvy [[spoiler: Spider-Man from another universe, who did the same thing with ''his'' Green Goblin]] intervenes and manages to calm him down.
** ComicBook/TheVision a Benevolent AI and unlike other heroes is willing and able to [[BattleOfWits talk his opponents down]] rather than just overpower or kill them. Push him too far, though, and he’ll show you how powerful of a FlyingBrick he is. He’s also okay with stabbing his foes InTheBack as seen in '' Infinity War''.
** T’challa aka ComicBook/BlackPanther is a polite NiceGuy and the noble king of his country who will go full on [[ImplacableMan Terminator]] to anyone who hurts his family and [[spoiler: [[Film/BlackPanther is willing to kill his own cousin]] when the latter usurps his throne and tries to take over Wakanda, and later use his power to do the same to the world.]]
** [[ComicBook/TheHulk Bruce Banner]] when not a green raging monster, is a unfailing polite NonActionGuy who is definitely a more kindly ScienceHero than Tony. Although even then, Bruce is perfectly willing to choke a young woman out, admittedly one who MindRape||d him a few days ago. Bruce also manages (unintentionally) to kill his pursuers even as his mild mannered alter ego in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''.
** Scott Lang aka ComicBook/AntMan II is goofy, kind hearted man who’s also a devoted and loving father. Yet he’s still perfectly willing to horrifically crush a man by breaking his shrinking suit [[PapaWolf to protect his daughter]] and will literally kill enemies by casually stepping on them as Giant-Man.
** Adult Groot from ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' is easily the TokenGoodTeammate of the team being a AllLovingHero and FriendToAllChildren. But even then he’s still willing to rip an alien thug’s nose off and put on a MookHorrorShow who flashes a carefree smile to his friends after brutally killing an army of foes.

** Tony Stark aka ComicBook/IronMan at his best (i.e not being a egotistical jerk) is a FriendToAllChildren who’s more than willingly to sacrifice himself for his team and for the sake of humanity on several occasions as BigGood. But even when saving innocent villagers, he mows down terrorists like a ruthless killing machine, though he is willingly to spare surrendering mooks as seen in ''Film/IronMan3''.
** ComicBook/{{Thor}} a BoisterousBruiser who’s pure hearted to the core, is still an incredibly violent BloodKnight who will go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against those who have hurt his loved ones. He even takes his time making [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar Thanos]] hurt in revenge [[spoiler: after he killed his brother Loki.]]
** Peter Parker aka ComicBook/SpiderMan manages to be more kind hearted than even Captain America, but when pissed off can be extremely ruthless as [[Film/SpiderManFarFromHome Mysterio]] discovered the hard way. He’s got quite the bodycount by the time of ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', thanks to Instant-Kill mode. During a [[Film/SpiderManNoWayHome multiversal crisis]] he loses [[spoiler: his aunt May Parker]] and proceeds to deliver a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to [[spoiler: her]] killer, [[spoiler: Characters/MarvelComicsNormanOsborn]] and tries to stab him with his own [[spoiler: glider]]. Fortunately, a GenreSavvy [[spoiler: Spider-Man from another universe]] intervenes and manages to calm him down.
** ComicBook/TheVision a Benevolent AI unlike other heroes is willingly and able [[BattleOfWits talk his opponents down]] rather just overpower or kill them, push him however and he’ll show you how powerful of a FlyingBrick he is. He’s also okay with stabbing his foes InTheBack as seen in '' Infinity War''.
** T’challa aka ComicBook/BlackPanther polite NiceGuy and noble king of his country, will go full [[ImplacableMan Terminator]] to anyone who’s hurt his family and [[spoiler: [[Film/BlackPanther is willingly to kill his own cousin]] when the latter usurps his throne and tries to take over the world.]]
** [[ComicBook/TheHulk Bruce Banner]] when not a green rage monster, is a unfailing polite NonActionGuy who is definitely a more kindly ScienceHero than his best friend Tony Stark. Although even then, Bruce is perfectly willingly to choke a young woman out, admittedly one whom had performed a MindRape on him a few days ago. Bruce also manages (unintentionally) kill pursuers even as he’s mild mannered alter ego in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''.
** Scott Lang aka ComicBook/AntMan II is goofy, kind hearted man who’s also devoted and loving father. Yet he’s still perfectly willing to horrifically crush a man by breaking his shrinking suit [[PapaWolf to protect his daughter]] and will literally kill an enemy by casually stepping on him as Giant-Man.
** Adult Groot from ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' is easily the TokenGoodTeammate of the team being a AllLovingHero and FriendToAllChildren. But even then he’s still willing to rip an alien thug’s nose off and be a MookHorrorShow who flashes a carefree smile to his friends after brutally killing an army of foes.

* The main character, Jason, in ''Jason's Lyric'' is basically a good man and very protective toward his family. But when his troublemaker younger brother, Joshua, drunkenly harasses his girlfriend, Lyric, he doesn't hesitate to punch him. Later, Jason also dares to get into a vicious fight with Lyric's brother, Alonzo "A-1", as a revenge for ever tortured Joshua.

** Peter Parker aka ComicBook/SpiderMan manages to be more kind hearted than even Captain America, but when pissed off can be extremely ruthless as [[Film/SpiderManFarFromHome Mysterio]] discovered the hard way. He’s got quite the bodycount by the time of ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', thanks to Instant-Kill mode. During a [[Film/SpiderManNoWayHome multiversal crisis]] he loses his aunt May Parker and proceeds to deliver a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to her killer, [[spoiler: Characters/MarvelComicsNormanOsborn]] and tries to stab him with his own [[spoiler: glider]]. Fortunately, a GenreSavvy [[spoiler: Spider-Man from another universe]] intervenes and manages to calm him down.

** Peter Parker aka ComicBook/SpiderMan manages to be more kind hearted than even Captain America, but when pissed off can be extremely ruthless as [[Film/SpiderManFarFromHome Mysterio]] discovered the hard way. He’s got quite the bodycount by the time of ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', thanks to Instant-Kill mode. During a [[Film/SpiderManNoWayHome multiversal crisis]] he loses his aunt May Parker and proceeds to deliver a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to her killer, [[spoiler: ComicBook/Norman Osborn]] and tries to stab him with his own [[spoiler: glider]]. Fortunately, a GenreSavvy [[spoiler: Spider-Man from another universe]] intervenes and manages to calm him down.

** Peter Parker aka ComicBook/SpiderMan manages to be more kind hearted than even Captain America, but when pissed off can be extremely ruthless as [[Film/SpiderManFarFromHome Mysterio]] discovered the hard way. He’s got quite the bodycount by the time of ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', thanks to Instant-Kill mode.

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* The main character, Jason, in ''Film/JasonsLyric'' is basically a good man and very protective toward his family. But when his troublemaker younger brother, Joshua, drunkenly harasses his girlfriend, Lyric, he doesn't hesitate to punch him. Later, Jason also dares to get into a vicious fight with Lyric's brother, Alonzo "A-1", as a revenge for ever tortured Joshua.