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* So in this world you are able to make, essentially, zombies that will completely obey their makers 100%. They don't need to eat or sleep, all they need is a special kind of oil and regular exercise. Naturally the kingdom decides to gather a bunch of these zombies and form them into an army. And then they...just leave them in a ware house and do absolutely nothing with them. Now call me crazy, but these people have just invented automatons. We have what are essentially robots that will do anything they're ordered. They should be living in a post scarcity society. Just before the start of the work they have a farmer's revolt. Why are they having humans do farm work when they could have the zombies do it instead. They'd do it far more efficiently, cheaply and with 0% chance of rebellion. Yet the singular thing these people can think to do with infinite labor is have them stand around and wait for a war.

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* So in this world you are able to make, essentially, zombies that will completely obey their makers 100%. They don't need to eat or sleep, all they need is a special kind of oil and regular exercise. Naturally the kingdom decides to gather a bunch of these zombies and form them into an army. And then they...just leave them in a ware house and do absolutely nothing with them. Now call me crazy, but these people have just invented automatons. We have what are essentially robots that will do anything they're ordered. They should be living in a post scarcity society. Just before the start of the work they have a farmer's revolt. Why are they having humans do farm work when they could have the zombies do it instead. They'd do it far more efficiently, cheaply and with 0% chance of rebellion. Yet the singular thing these people can think to do with infinite labor is have them stand around and wait for a war.war.
** They do actually use the Lifeless for at least some labor: There's a landowner character who is mentioned to use Lifeless labor to clear his lands. As for why they don't make further use of them, it's probably some combination of just not thinking of it and the Lifeless not having sufficient initiative to perform any task more complex than "pick this thing up" or "cut that tree down".


* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost, so each must be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even most basic ability to transfer Breaths would have to be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.

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* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost, so each must be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even most basic ability to transfer Breaths would have to be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.Commands.

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*So in this world you are able to make, essentially, zombies that will completely obey their makers 100%. They don't need to eat or sleep, all they need is a special kind of oil and regular exercise. Naturally the kingdom decides to gather a bunch of these zombies and form them into an army. And then they...just leave them in a ware house and do absolutely nothing with them. Now call me crazy, but these people have just invented automatons. We have what are essentially robots that will do anything they're ordered. They should be living in a post scarcity society. Just before the start of the work they have a farmer's revolt. Why are they having humans do farm work when they could have the zombies do it instead. They'd do it far more efficiently, cheaply and with 0% chance of rebellion. Yet the singular thing these people can think to do with infinite labor is have them stand around and wait for a war.


** This isn't really Fridge anything. It's directly stated in the trxt not long after the Death reveal.
* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost, so each must be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even most basic ability to transfer Breaths would have to be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.
* So in this society they can make zombies that act like automotons. These are a source of labor that can work without the need for rest or food...and all they do is keep them in a warehouse on the off chance there's a war. Call me crazy but why aren't these things doing manual labor. They should be so efficient at work there shouldn't even be a lower class. They're essentially robots. This should be leading to a post scarcity society. And it's definitely not, because there was a farmer's revolution not long before the story started! That wouldn't happen if all those farmers were zombies.

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** This isn't really Fridge anything. It's directly stated in the trxt not long after the Death reveal.
* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost, so each must be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even most basic ability to transfer Breaths would have to be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.
* So in this society they can make zombies that act like automotons. These are a source of labor that can work without the need for rest or food...and all they do is keep them in a warehouse on the off chance there's a war. Call me crazy but why aren't these things doing manual labor. They should be so efficient at work there shouldn't even be a lower class. They're essentially robots. This should be leading to a post scarcity society. And it's definitely not, because there was a farmer's revolution not long before the story started! That wouldn't happen if all those farmers were zombies.
Commands.


* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost, so each must be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even most basic ability to transfer Breaths would have to be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.

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* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost, so each must be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even most basic ability to transfer Breaths would have to be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.Commands.
* So in this society they can make zombies that act like automotons. These are a source of labor that can work without the need for rest or food...and all they do is keep them in a warehouse on the off chance there's a war. Call me crazy but why aren't these things doing manual labor. They should be so efficient at work there shouldn't even be a lower class. They're essentially robots. This should be leading to a post scarcity society. And it's definitely not, because there was a farmer's revolution not long before the story started! That wouldn't happen if all those farmers were zombies.

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** This isn't really Fridge anything. It's directly stated in the trxt not long after the Death reveal.


* Lightsong's curious ability to juggle fruit and his [[AchievementsInIgnorance inexplicable talent]] for [[{{Calvinball}} Terachin]] might have a common root. Namely, he might have had a good throwing arm and excellent hand-eye coordination, beyond what was strictly necessary for his former life. Further evidence of this is the thing he set up to count the priests going in and coming out of the god's compounds - throwing pebbles, unerringly, from a reclined position, into one of several dishes.
* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?

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* Lightsong's curious ability to juggle fruit and his [[AchievementsInIgnorance inexplicable talent]] for [[{{Calvinball}} Terachin]] might have a common root. Namely, he might have had a good throwing arm and excellent hand-eye coordination, beyond what was strictly necessary for coordination in his former life.previous life, likely including an interest in Terachin before becoming a Returned. Further evidence of this is the thing he set up to count the priests going in and coming out of the god's compounds - throwing pebbles, unerringly, from a reclined position, into one of several dishes.
* While Nightblood can't can sense it's surroundings to some degree, it cannot actually see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?



* Lemex catches fever and dies just as Vivenna reaches him, resulting in the fortunate passing on of his Breath to her. The timing of the death is a large coincidence that slightly strains suspension of disbelief. However, the truth is that Denth is responsible for the death and the timing, revealed with his sudden betrayal.
* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost. Thus, each civilization on Nalthis must to a certain degree start from scratch in discovering Awakening. Even the command to transfer Breaths may take ages to discover in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.

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* Lemex catches fever and dies just as Vivenna reaches him, resulting in the fortunate passing on of his Breath to her. The timing of the death is a large coincidence that slightly strains suspension of disbelief. However, the truth is that Denth was poisoning Lemex and is there for responsible for the death and the timing, revealed with his sudden betrayal.
betrayal. Even more obvious when you recall that Breath makes a person more resistant to disease, and with several hundred Lemex should have been fully immune. Of course Vivenna is unaware of the effects of large quantities of Breath so she has no way of piecing this together.
* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost. Thus, lost, so each civilization on Nalthis must to a certain degree start from scratch in discovering Awakening. be research and rediscover specific Commands. Even the command most basic ability to transfer Breaths may take ages would have to discover be rediscovered in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.


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** WordOfGod confirmation that the high priests [[spoiler: actually did want Susebron and Siri to have a child very quickly]], makes much of their behavior seem rather nonsensical. Particularly [[spoiler: instructing Siri to quietly and passively wait for her husband, who has no idea how babies are made, to [[ArentYouGoingToRavishMe ravish her]].]] And then not so subtly [[spoiler: threatening her homeland with war when, predictably, no baby making occurred.]] This all makes much more sense when you eventually realize that [[spoiler: the priests were relying on Bluefingers to handle all instructions related to coupling with Susebron. Whatever original instructions Siri was intended to receive to compensate for Susebron's ignorance of marital matters never reached her.]]
** This also does a great deal to explain much of the priests JerkAss hostility towards Siri. While Siri laying in a nude PoseOfSupplication before the God King for hours on end on her wedding night was terribly humiliating for her, [[spoiler: to the priests it would have looked like deliberate act of defiance from the "fanatical" rebel Idris princess. Worse, seeing gentle Susebron being melodramatically kow-towed to look like he was some kind of brutal monster would have seemed a deliberate insult to the priests. [[MartyrWithoutACause Considering the Martyr Complex that Vivenna had towards being sent to wed the God King]], it would have been easy to see Siri as a viper who needed to be forced into submission.]]

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** WordOfGod confirmation that the high priests [[spoiler: actually did want Susebron and Siri to have a child very quickly]], quickly, makes much of their behavior seem rather nonsensical. Particularly [[spoiler: instructing Siri to quietly and passively wait for her husband, who has no idea how babies are made, to [[ArentYouGoingToRavishMe ravish her]].]] her]]. And then not so subtly [[spoiler: threatening her homeland with war when, predictably, no baby making occurred.]] occurred. This all makes much more sense when you eventually realize that [[spoiler: the priests were relying on Bluefingers to handle all instructions related to coupling with Susebron. Whatever original instructions Siri was intended to receive to compensate for Susebron's ignorance of marital matters never reached her.]]
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** This also does a great deal to explain much of the priests JerkAss hostility towards Siri. While Siri laying in a nude PoseOfSupplication before the God King for hours on end on her wedding night was terribly humiliating for her, [[spoiler: to the priests it would have looked like deliberate act of defiance from the "fanatical" rebel Idris princess. Worse, seeing gentle Susebron being melodramatically kow-towed to look like he was some kind of brutal monster would have seemed a deliberate insult to the priests. [[MartyrWithoutACause Considering the Martyr Complex that Vivenna had towards being sent to wed the God King]], it would have been easy to see Siri as a viper who needed to be forced into submission.]]



* Lemex catches fever and dies just as Vivenna reaches him, resulting in the fortunate passing on of his Breath to her. The timing of the death is a large coincidence that slightly strains suspension of disbelief. [[spoiler: However, the truth is that Denth is responsible for the death and the timing, revealed with his sudden betrayal.]]

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* Lemex catches fever and dies just as Vivenna reaches him, resulting in the fortunate passing on of his Breath to her. The timing of the death is a large coincidence that slightly strains suspension of disbelief. [[spoiler: However, the truth is that Denth is responsible for the death and the timing, revealed with his sudden betrayal.]]

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* Lemex catches fever and dies just as Vivenna reaches him, resulting in the fortunate passing on of his Breath to her. The timing of the death is a large coincidence that slightly strains suspension of disbelief. [[spoiler: However, the truth is that Denth is responsible for the death and the timing, revealed with his sudden betrayal.]]


* Fridge for ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'' can be found [[Fridge/{{Warbreaker}} here]]

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* Fridge for ''Literature/TheCosmere'' as a whole can be found [[Fridge/TheCosmere here]]
* Fridge for ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' can be found [[Fridge/TheStormlightArchive here]]
* Fridge for ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'' can be found [[Fridge/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy here]]
* Fridge for ''Literature/MistbornSecretHistory'' can be found [[Fridge/MistbornSecretHistory here]]
* Fridge for ''Literature/WaxAndWayne'' can be found [[Fridge/WaxAndWayne here]]
* Fridge for ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'' can be found [[Fridge/{{Warbreaker}} here]]
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* Llarimar's seemingly bottomless ability to put up with Lightsong's antics makes a lot more sense when you find out that Lightsong was Llarimar's brother. Llarimar has had his entire life to get used to Lightsong acting out, and it therefore doesn't conflict with his devotion to Lightsong.

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* Llarimar's seemingly bottomless ability to put up with Lightsong's antics makes a lot more sense when you find out that Lightsong was Llarimar's brother. Llarimar has had his entire life to get used to Lightsong acting out, and it therefore doesn't conflict with his devotion to Lightsong.Lightsong.
* It's mentioned that for more advanced Awakening, the ''exact'' wording of a Command can be very important (i.e. One of the contributing factors to the Manywar was the discovery of a Command that allowed for the creation of Lifeless with a single Breath, as opposed to the previous ''fifty''). It's also mentioned that Commands only work if spoken in the Awakener's native tongue. Combined, these two factors explain why Awakening seems to be almost exclusively a Hallendren thing, even centuries after its discovery. Since Commands only work in the Awakener's native tongue, Commands discovered in Hallendren can't be used by non-native Hallendren speakers. And even if they translate the Commands, the exact wording, the subtleties that make such a difference, will be lost. Thus, each civilization on Nalthis must to a certain degree start from scratch in discovering Awakening. Even the command to transfer Breaths may take ages to discover in a new language, even if you know where to start from, and without that no real research is possible into other Commands.


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* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?

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* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?again?
* Llarimar's seemingly bottomless ability to put up with Lightsong's antics makes a lot more sense when you find out that Lightsong was Llarimar's brother. Llarimar has had his entire life to get used to Lightsong acting out, and it therefore doesn't conflict with his devotion to Lightsong.


* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?
* Lightsong is one of the nicer gods. This might seem odd but when was the last time you think Blushweaver or Hopefunder or any of the others left in a state of despair during the petitions or felt pity for the one giving up their breath or gave the best review they could to a dreadful poem made by someone who can't spell or gave acclaim to the ones performing for them or showed concern for the populace or workers or even bothered to tell his high priest to take a holiday.

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* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?
* Lightsong is one of the nicer gods. This might seem odd but when was the last time you think Blushweaver or Hopefunder or any of the others left in a state of despair during the petitions or felt pity for the one giving up their breath or gave the best review they could to a dreadful poem made by someone who can't spell or gave acclaim to the ones performing for them or showed concern for the populace or workers or even bothered to tell his high priest to take a holiday.
again?


* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?

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* Nightblood can't see and as such would depend on peoples surface thoughts to give it visual information. The majority of this information would come from Vasher. Now what does Nightblood thinks Vivenna looks like again?again?
* Lightsong is one of the nicer gods. This might seem odd but when was the last time you think Blushweaver or Hopefunder or any of the others left in a state of despair during the petitions or felt pity for the one giving up their breath or gave the best review they could to a dreadful poem made by someone who can't spell or gave acclaim to the ones performing for them or showed concern for the populace or workers or even bothered to tell his high priest to take a holiday.

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