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* Another potentially bad scenario for a Legacy-compliant timeline: If Jet was the one who saw his dad's pager go off and investigate the arcade? Clu would have numerous angles at his disposal to manipulate Jet; all he'd have to do is tell about 90% of the truth and come up with [[HalfTruth a convincing line of bull]] for the rest. Jet's experience with Thorne and the Wraiths place his sympathies firmly with the Programs, he's proved he can and will take orders from a Program, and he doesn't have the same loyalty to Kevin Flynn that Sam would. Hell, take Jet's reluctance to harm innocent Programs and Tron's inability to harm Users, and Clu could use one "brother" to control the other. [[note]] Indeed, the fanfic Fanfic/AWholeNewWorld did have a cameo of a rectified Jet taking over Jarvis's position. [[/note]]

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* Another potentially bad scenario for a Legacy-compliant timeline: If Jet was the one who saw his dad's pager go off and investigate the arcade? Clu would have numerous angles at his disposal to manipulate Jet; all he'd have to do is tell about 90% of the truth and come up with [[HalfTruth [[MetaphoricallyTrue a convincing line of bull]] for the rest. Jet's experience with Thorne and the Wraiths place his sympathies firmly with the Programs, he's proved he can and will take orders from a Program, and he doesn't have the same loyalty to Kevin Flynn that Sam would. Hell, take Jet's reluctance to harm innocent Programs and Tron's inability to harm Users, and Clu could use one "brother" to control the other. [[note]] Indeed, the fanfic Fanfic/AWholeNewWorld did have a cameo of a rectified Jet taking over Jarvis's position. [[/note]]
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* If you go the PatchworkFic route? Sam Flynn and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different. Sam saw nothing but hostile AI; his father betrayed and killed by Clu, thousands of Programs cheering for his messy death in the arena, Zues and Gem turning out to be scheming bastards, Quorra's tale of narrow escape from genocide, Clu's regime threatening to take over Earth, and even the great User-Believer Champion nearly slit his throat in front of a cheering crowd. Jet saw mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters trying to invade and conquer them. Jet also may have killed humans to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to [[Comicbook/CivilWar Marvel's Civil War]].

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* If you go the PatchworkFic route? Sam Flynn and Jet Bradley would have been something like cousins or brothers, but their respective trips down the cyberspace rabbit hole were ''very'' different. Sam saw nothing but hostile AI; his father betrayed and killed by Clu, thousands of Programs cheering for his messy death in the arena, Zues and Gem turning out to be scheming bastards, Quorra's tale of narrow escape from genocide, Clu's regime threatening to take over Earth, and even the great User-Believer Champion nearly slit his throat in front of a cheering crowd. Jet saw mostly sympathetic Programs and HumansAreTheRealMonsters trying to invade and conquer them. Jet also may have killed humans to protect those Programs. If Sam sees Jet as a traitor to humanity for protecting Programs, and Jet sees Sam as going down the path of people like Crown or Thorne, that could be a tragic and ugly confrontation akin to [[Comicbook/CivilWar [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 Marvel's Civil War]].
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* The game tales SecondaryCharacterTitle UpToEleven. Tron is nowhere to be seen, and it's only in an optional conversation with I-No that reveals his fate as "unknown" (that, and some interesting emails indicating an upgrade to Tron was stopped on Flynn's orders). However, if you think of Programs as de facto "children" of their User-Creators, then the title makes sense. Tron and Jet have the same father!

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* The game tales takes SecondaryCharacterTitle UpToEleven.up to eleven. Tron is nowhere to be seen, and it's only in an optional conversation with I-No that reveals his fate as "unknown" (that, and some interesting emails indicating an upgrade to Tron was stopped on Flynn's orders). However, if you think of Programs as de facto "children" of their User-Creators, then the title makes sense. Tron and Jet have the same father!
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** They also have a common detail up until the end of their respected stories: they both start off trapped in the shadow of their fathers. Though Flynn didn't intend to be trapped on the Grid, Sam still had to deal with the absence of his father, lashing out in the process. Jet was having to deal with a man who has thrown himself into his work after his mother's death (in the game, as Lora is still alive in the film's timeline due to her ARG appearance), he lashed out in the same way. And equally ironic, Alan tries to get both of them to do things they are not interested in doing at the start of their respected stories. For Sam, it's to take control of Encom and lead it. For Jet, Alan tries to get him to go into software programming and leave the video game design behind. And it's not after their respected trips into the cyberspace that they decide to move forward.

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** They also have a common detail up until the end of their respected stories: they both start off trapped in the shadow of their absent fathers. Though Flynn didn't intend to be trapped on the Grid, Sam still had to deal with the absence of his father, lashing out in the process. Jet was having to deal with Alan, a man who has thrown himself into his work after his mother's death (in (this is for the game, as Lora is still alive in the film's timeline due to her ARG appearance), he lashed out in the same way. way. And equally ironic, Alan tries to get both of them to do things they are not interested in doing at the start of their respected stories. For Sam, it's to take control of Encom and lead it. For Jet, Alan tries to get him to go into software programming and leave the video game design behind. And it's not after their respected trips into the cyberspace that they decide to move forward.
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** They also have a common detail up until the end of their respected stories: they both start off trapped in the shadow of their fathers. Though Flynn didn't intend to be trapped on the Grid, Sam still had to deal with the absence of his father, lashing out in the process. Jet was having to deal with a man who has thrown himself into his work after his mother's death (in the game, as Lora is still alive in the film's timeline due to her ARG appearance), he lashed out in the same way. And equally ironic, Alan tries to get both of them to do things they are not interested in doing at the start of their respected stories. For Sam, it's to take control of Encom and lead it. For Jet, Alan tries to get him to go into software programming and leave the video game design behind. And it's not after their respected trips into the cyberspace that they decide to move forward.
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* On a similar note, Jet's skillset. He's a game designer who ends up being forced into disc and lightcycle combat, turning out to be quite gifted at it. Tron's job was fighting, of course, but simulation design? That was Yori's department (the Solar Sailer was supposed to be for a video game).

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* On a similar note, Jet's skillset. He's a game designer who ends up being forced into disc and lightcycle combat, turning out to be quite gifted at it. Tron's job was fighting, of course, but simulation design? That was Yori's department (the Solar Sailer was supposed to be for a video game). Yori (Lora's Program, and Jet's de facto sister) also had her own PlayfulHacker moment in the DeletedScene and {{Novelization}} by pulling a highly illegal power reroute to give Tron a proper "welcome home," and she had clearly done it before...probably because she was "just bored." Jet's User-world skillset is straight from his sister's playbook as much as his digital world combat abilities resemble his brother's.
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** Also, Flynn scrapped the program when Alan and Lori ran into problems with the digitizing laser: if no one can be put into Cyberspace, there's not much use in developing a program to protect against Users being put into Cyberspace.
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** Presumably, Alan could store them on the hard drive and then pull it offline, which would trap them in stasis and keep them from feeling any pain. There's also the implication that Alan has to ''figure out'' how to pull them apart, which would explain his lack of urgency.
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** Just the fact that it's ''Alan'' remarking he's in no hurry to free them. He saw {{Cyberspace}}, knows about the [[YearInsideHourOutside time dilation]], saw Thorne's painful and slow demise, and knows what he's doing by trapping them on that external drive. Alan seems very meek and mild, but we ''are'' talking about Tron's User.
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* There are a few times early on in the game (before the Alan's PC level) where [=Ma3a=] calls Jet by his real name and not his "Alan-2" login name. In light of what we find out about her ''[[BrainUploading real]]'' [[VirtualGhost identity]] later on, it's not a mistake on the developer's part. It's {{Foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler: the "Lora" part of her is reasserting itself after [[ParentsKnowTheirChildren coming face to face with her son.]] ]]

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* There are a few times early on in the game (before the Alan's PC level) where [=Ma3a=] calls Jet by his real name and not his "Alan-2" login name. In light of what we find out about her ''[[BrainUploading real]]'' [[VirtualGhost identity]] later on, it's not a mistake on the developer's part. It's {{Foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler: the "Lora" part of her is reasserting itself after [[ParentsKnowTheirChildren coming face to face with her son.]] ]]

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** Another brilliant bit: there are a few times early on (before Alan's PC) where she refers to him as "Jet" and not "Alan-2." It seems like a slip-up, but it's actually {{Foreshadowing}}. [[spoiler: Upon coming [[ParentsKnowTheirChildren face to face with her son]], it's likely the part of her that's still Lora started kicking in and asserting itself without her being fully aware of it.]]
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* There are a few times early on in the game (before the Alan's PC level) where [=Ma3a=] calls Jet by his real name and not his "Alan-2" login name. In light of what we find out about her ''[[BrainUploading real]]'' [[VirtualGhost identity]] later on, it's not a mistake on the developer's part. It's {{Foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler: the "Lora" part of her is reasserting itself after [[ParentsKnowTheirChildren coming face to face with her son.]] ]]
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* One of the strangest parts of the game is a limited-use Mesh blaster hidden on the introduction level. The Mesh Blaster is the standard weapon for the Datawraiths and seems garishly out of place, since it's many more levels before we even hear about them. (This is why it LDSO edited it out of the game with their Killer App mod.) [[spoiler: The Brilliance is that Thorne was uploaded as an initial test by [=fCon=] to see how feasible uploading their mercenaries would be, so if Thorne was going to be used as a beta-test Wraith, it would make sense to send him a beta-test Wraith weapon. ]]
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* Even more potential Datawraith Fridge Horror: They had to have been altered somehow to speak in that encrypted gibberish and to have that stealth and short-range teleport ability, as no other Users have been shown to do that. And [=fCon=] likely would have to make sure their {{Mooks}} didn't go rogue and pull a Thorne. Those alterations probably included some form of {{Brainwashing}} along the lines of [[Film/TronLegacy rectification]].
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* The Ghost in the Machine comic opens with Jet not coping well with the revelation of what being a User means in that universe's context, and admitting to the psychologist that it is way too much power to handle. Unlike his HonoraryUncle, he wants nothing to do with virtual godhood. The brilliance comes in when you remember that, through the whole game, he readily and willingly followed [=Ma3a=] and Mercury's orders ''and'' that while [[{{Film/Tron}} the Flynns fought]] [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue AI that were]] [[Film/TronLegacy trying to conquer humans]], Jet encountered [[BenevolentAI few truly malicious Programs]] (the ones trying to kill him were corrupted or mistaken for the most part), and [[DefendsAgainstTheirOwnKind his battle was with malicious]] ''[[HunterOfHisOenKind humans.]]'' His godfather's disappearance in ''both'' timelines would also mean he would have no guidance or instruction when it comes to what is expected of him as a User or why it's not an inherently bad thing to be one.

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* The Ghost in the Machine comic opens with Jet not coping well with the revelation of what being a User means in that universe's context, and admitting to the psychologist that it is way too much power to handle. Unlike his HonoraryUncle, he wants nothing to do with virtual godhood. The brilliance comes in when you remember that, through the whole game, he readily and willingly followed [=Ma3a=] and Mercury's orders ''and'' that while [[{{Film/Tron}} the Flynns fought]] [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue AI that were]] [[Film/TronLegacy trying to conquer humans]], Jet encountered [[BenevolentAI few truly malicious Programs]] (the ones trying to kill him were corrupted or mistaken for the most part), and [[DefendsAgainstTheirOwnKind his battle was with malicious]] ''[[HunterOfHisOenKind ''[[HunterOfHisOwnKind humans.]]'' His godfather's disappearance in ''both'' timelines would also mean he would have no guidance or instruction when it comes to what is expected of him as a User or why it's not an inherently bad thing to be one.
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* On a similar note, Jet's skillset. He's a game designer who ends up being forced into disc and lightcycle combat, turning out to be quite gifted at it. Tron's job was fighting, of course, but simulation design? That was Yori's department (the Solar Sailer was supposed to be for a video game).
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* The Ghost in the Machine comic opens with Jet not coping well with the revelation of what being a User means in that universe's context, and admitting to the psychologist that it is way too much power to handle. Unlike his HonoraryUncle, he wants nothing to do with virtual godhood. The brilliance comes in when you remember that, through the whole game, he readily and willingly followed [=Ma3a=] and Mercury's orders ''and'' that while [[{{Film/Tron}} the Flynns fought]] [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue AI that were]] [[Film/TronLegacy trying to conquer humans]], Jet encountered few truly malicious Programs (the ones trying to kill him were corrupted or mistaken for the most part), and his battle was with malicious ''humans.'' His godfather's disappearance in ''both'' timelines would also mean he would have no guidance or instruction when it comes to what is expected of him as a User or why it's not an inherently bad thing to be one.

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* The Ghost in the Machine comic opens with Jet not coping well with the revelation of what being a User means in that universe's context, and admitting to the psychologist that it is way too much power to handle. Unlike his HonoraryUncle, he wants nothing to do with virtual godhood. The brilliance comes in when you remember that, through the whole game, he readily and willingly followed [=Ma3a=] and Mercury's orders ''and'' that while [[{{Film/Tron}} the Flynns fought]] [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue AI that were]] [[Film/TronLegacy trying to conquer humans]], Jet encountered [[BenevolentAI few truly malicious Programs Programs]] (the ones trying to kill him were corrupted or mistaken for the most part), and [[DefendsAgainstTheirOwnKind his battle was with malicious ''humans.'' malicious]] ''[[HunterOfHisOenKind humans.]]'' His godfather's disappearance in ''both'' timelines would also mean he would have no guidance or instruction when it comes to what is expected of him as a User or why it's not an inherently bad thing to be one.
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* Ma3a addresses Jet as "Alan 2" throughout the game. When Jet tries to correct her, the closest she can get to understanding "father" is "older version." If she thought of Jet as an "upgraded" version of Alan, little wonder she zapped him in when the "original" wasn't available and little wonder she addresses him like that!

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* Ma3a [=Ma3a=] addresses Jet as "Alan 2" throughout the game. When Jet tries to correct her, the closest she can get to understanding "father" is "older version." If she thought of Jet as an "upgraded" version of Alan, little wonder she zapped him in when the "original" wasn't available and little wonder she addresses him like that!



* The Ghost in the Machine comic opens with Jet not coping well with the revelation of what being a User means in that universe's context, and admitting to the psychologist that it is way too much power to handle. Unlike his HonoraryUncle, he wants nothing to do with virtual godhood. The brilliance comes in when you remember that, through the whole game, he readily and willingly followed Ma3a and Mercury's orders ''and'' that while [[{{Film/Tron}} the Flynns fought]] [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue AI that were]] [[Film/TronLegacy trying to conquer humans]], Jet encountered few truly malicious Programs (the ones trying to kill him were corrupted or mistaken for the most part), and his battle was with malicious ''humans.'' His godfather's disappearance in ''both'' timelines would also mean he would have no guidance or instruction when it comes to what is expected of him as a User or why it's not an inherently bad thing to be one.

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* The Ghost in the Machine comic opens with Jet not coping well with the revelation of what being a User means in that universe's context, and admitting to the psychologist that it is way too much power to handle. Unlike his HonoraryUncle, he wants nothing to do with virtual godhood. The brilliance comes in when you remember that, through the whole game, he readily and willingly followed Ma3a [=Ma3a=] and Mercury's orders ''and'' that while [[{{Film/Tron}} the Flynns fought]] [[AIIsACrapshoot rogue AI that were]] [[Film/TronLegacy trying to conquer humans]], Jet encountered few truly malicious Programs (the ones trying to kill him were corrupted or mistaken for the most part), and his battle was with malicious ''humans.'' His godfather's disappearance in ''both'' timelines would also mean he would have no guidance or instruction when it comes to what is expected of him as a User or why it's not an inherently bad thing to be one.



* Another one that could veer horribly into NightmareFuel or RonTheDeathEater. It was implied in-game that Ma3a is a cross of VirtualGhost and BrainUploading, her programming based primarily on the deceased Dr. Baines-Bradley. Was that accidental, or did Alan do that ''deliberately?''
** How much (if anything) does Ma3a know about her origin?

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* Another one that could veer horribly into NightmareFuel or RonTheDeathEater. It was implied in-game that Ma3a [=Ma3a=] is a cross of VirtualGhost and BrainUploading, her programming based primarily on the deceased Dr. Baines-Bradley. Was that accidental, or did Alan do that ''deliberately?''
** How much (if anything) does Ma3a [=Ma3a=] know about her origin?



* What would have happened if Ma3a hadn't intervened at the compiler and insisted on taking the code herself? Jet was the one who initially volunteered to take the risk. What would that stuff have done to a User?

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* What would have happened if Ma3a [=Ma3a=] hadn't intervened at the compiler and insisted on taking the code herself? Jet was the one who initially volunteered to take the risk. What would that stuff have done to a User?
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* Another potentially bad scenario for a Legacy-compliant timeline: If Jet was the one who saw his dad's pager go off and investigate the arcade? Clu would have numerous angles at his disposal to manipulate Jet; all he'd have to do is tell about 90% of the truth and come up with [[HalfTruth a convincing line of bull]] for the rest. Jet's experience with Thorne and the Wraiths place his sympathies firmly with the Programs, he's proved he can and will take orders from a Program, and he doesn't have the same loyalty to Kevin Flynn that Sam would. Hell, take Jet's reluctance to harm innocent Programs and Tron's inability to harm Users, and Clu could use one "brother" to control the other.

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* Another potentially bad scenario for a Legacy-compliant timeline: If Jet was the one who saw his dad's pager go off and investigate the arcade? Clu would have numerous angles at his disposal to manipulate Jet; all he'd have to do is tell about 90% of the truth and come up with [[HalfTruth a convincing line of bull]] for the rest. Jet's experience with Thorne and the Wraiths place his sympathies firmly with the Programs, he's proved he can and will take orders from a Program, and he doesn't have the same loyalty to Kevin Flynn that Sam would. Hell, take Jet's reluctance to harm innocent Programs and Tron's inability to harm Users, and Clu could use one "brother" to control the other. [[note]] Indeed, the fanfic Fanfic/AWholeNewWorld did have a cameo of a rectified Jet taking over Jarvis's position. [[/note]]
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* In this continuity, Tron is viewed as Encom's greatest hero, the focus of a KingInTheMountain style myth stating he will return to defend the system in its DarkestHour. And amusingly enough, that turns out to be the case! (Alan had a copy in archival storage that kept upgraded through the years and ''did'' revive him to defend Encom when all else appeared to fail) However, think of what would happen in a Legacy-compliant timeline once word got out that their greatest hero was defeated, horribly tortured, and ended up as little more than a crazed admin's near-feral attack dog. Worse, think of how ''Jet'' would take that kind of news.

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* In this continuity, Tron is viewed as Encom's greatest hero, the focus of a KingInTheMountain style myth stating he will return to defend the system in its DarkestHour. And amusingly enough, that turns out to be the case! (Alan had a copy in archival storage that had been kept upgraded through the years and ''did'' revive him to defend Encom when all else appeared to fail) However, think of what would happen in a Legacy-compliant timeline once word got out that their greatest hero was defeated, horribly tortured, and ended up as little more than a crazed admin's near-feral attack dog. Worse, think of how ''Jet'' would take that kind of news.
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* In this continuity, Tron is viewed as Encom's greatest hero, the focus of a KingInTheMountain style myth stating he will return to defend the system in its DarkestHour. And amusingly enough, that turns out to be the case! (Alan had a copy in archival storage that kept upgraded through the years and ''did'' revive him to defend Encom when all else appeared to fail) However, think of what would happen in a Legacy-compliant timeline once word got out that their greatest hero was defeated, horribly tortured, and ended up as little more than a crazed admin's near-feral attack dog. Worse, think of how ''Jet'' would take that kind of news.
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* Despite coming out well before ''Film/TronLegacy,'' Alan's appearance in game is far more haggard than Bruce Boxleitner's appearance in the filmed sequel seven years later. But factor in this timeline is even crueler to him than the ''Legacy'' one; at least in the film's timeline, Lora is still alive and there's a hope of learning what happened to Flynn. In the 2.0 timeline, Flynn didn't even so much as leave a pager behind, Lora was killed, and no mention is made of Roy Kleinburg. Add the strained relationship with Jet, and it's small wonder he's showing a lot more aging.
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* A "blink and you might miss it" nasty one in-game. One of the emails states that Crown finally got Alan to talk after some "persuasive threats." Now, the video feed we see earlier is that F-con has Alan locked in a small storage closet, completely at their mercy, and he still manages to tell them off, delay them, and politely tell them to get lost. He knows very well with the Shiva laser can do, and why it's a bad idea to give it to guys like Crown. Furthermore, as harmless as Alan appears, this is the guy that gave ''Tron'' the stubborn streak and HeroicWillpower. What kind of threats and other "persuasion" did Crown have to make to strong-arm Alan into compliance?
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** If you look carefully, most of the [=ICP=] forces use discs as a primary weapon with only a few resorting to cannon weapons. They're healthy Programs who need to conserve their energy as they fight, so they would use an energy-efficient combat method. Discs are also very well-balanced and versatile, especially with upgrades like Power Block, Primitive Charge, or even Sequencer. Little ''wonder'' the biggest {{Badass}} in cyberspace relied almost exclusively on disc combat [[spoiler: though he used a Sequencer upgrade as Rinzler, apparently.]]

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** If you look carefully, most of the [=ICP=] forces use discs as a primary weapon with only a few resorting to cannon weapons. They're healthy Programs who need to conserve their energy as they fight, so they would use an energy-efficient combat method. Discs are also very well-balanced and versatile, especially with upgrades like Power Block, Primitive Charge, or even Sequencer. Little ''wonder'' the biggest {{Badass}} badass in cyberspace relied almost exclusively on disc combat [[spoiler: though he used a Sequencer upgrade as Rinzler, apparently.]]
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* Another potentially bad scenario for a Legacy-compliant timeline: If Jet was the one who saw his dad's pager go off and investigate the arcade? Clu would have numerous angles at his disposal to manipulate Jet; all he'd have to do is tell about 90% of the truth and come up with [[HalfTruth a convincing line of bull]] for the rest. Jet's experience with Thorne and the Wraiths place his sympathies firmly with the Programs, he's proved he can and will take orders from a Program, and he doesn't have the same loyalty to Kevin Flynn that Sam would. Hell, take Jet's reluctance to harm innocent Programs and Tron's inability to harm Users, and Clu could use one "brother" to control the other.

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