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* At first, the continent-wide bad reputation of the Red Ajah seems undeserved and a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. After all, they're the Ajah that deal with men who can channel. When your small town is dealing with one, insane or otherwise, they're the ones most likely to show up to deal with it, and at that point depending on the damage done you'd be damned glad to see them. And yet even non-channeler characters are nervous of them. Given events of the books however, in hindsight it becomes clear there are two very major reasons for this:

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* At first, the continent-wide bad reputation of the Red Ajah seems undeserved and a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. After all, they're the Ajah that deal with men who can channel. When your small town is dealing with one, insane or otherwise, they're the ones most likely to show up to deal with it, and at that point depending on the damage done you'd be damned glad to see them. And yet even non-channeler characters are nervous of them. Given events of the books however, in hindsight it becomes clear there are two very three major reasons for this:



** Thirdly, before the time of the books, the only two Amyrlin Seats ever to be raised from the Red Ajah were both stripped of office for bringing the Tower into disrepute: one for betraying the nation of Manetheren to the Shadow during the Trolloc Wars, the other for trying to reduce Artur Hawkwing to a puppet king and thereby turning his entire empire against the Aes Sedai. Even with the particulars lost to history, the fact that the Red were responsible for some of the Tower's most disastrous missteps could have contributed too their bad image.

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** Thirdly, before the time of the books, the only two Amyrlin Seats ever to be raised from the Red Ajah were both stripped of office for bringing the Tower into disrepute: one for betraying the nation of Manetheren to the Shadow during the Trolloc Wars, the other for trying to reduce Artur Hawkwing to a puppet king and thereby turning his entire empire against the Aes Sedai. Even with the particulars lost to history, the fact that the Red were responsible for some of the Tower's most disastrous missteps could have contributed too to their bad image.


** after the Aiel War, there was a continent-wide hidden massacre of men who could ''potentially'' channel perpetrated by the Black Ajah. While not ''every'' hit is likely to have been done by a once-member of the Red, certain conversations between Red Sitters make it clear that they participated in this, as an Ajah, though likely without knowing why. If many, many, ''many'' mysterious deaths all over the continent kept happening for over at most a decade (since it seemed to have stopped by Rand's maturity, and is likely to have been what killed Thom's nephew), and there's always a Red sister hanging around at the time...
** Secondly, Pevara makes it clear that the Red Ajah is the one that is ''specifically trained to counter channelers'', particularly ''male'' channelers, in combat. If they practice on each other, that means that every member of the Red Ajajh has logged in more channeler-to-channeler combat hours than anyone else in the whole White Tower. By making the division of the Tower along Ajah lines, and by trying to position it such that the Red Ajah takes the most heat, and remain ostracized even after the division with Salidar was resolved, the Shadow has made the Ajah with the most chance of winning in combat against its Dreadlords into the ''least'' trusted part of the Tower. If Egwene hadn't gone to great lengths to reintegrate the Red into the Tower, the Ajah most experienced in channeler-to-channeler combat might have been held back from key engagements with Dreadlords due to being ostracized and severely crippled the Tower's combat ability.

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** after After the Aiel War, there was a continent-wide hidden massacre of men who could ''potentially'' channel perpetrated by the Black Ajah. While not ''every'' hit is likely to have been done by a once-member of the Red, certain conversations between Red Sitters make it clear that they participated in this, as an Ajah, though likely without knowing why. If many, many, ''many'' mysterious deaths all over the continent kept happening for over at most a decade (since it seemed to have stopped by Rand's maturity, and is likely to have been what killed Thom's nephew), and there's always a Red sister hanging around at the time...
** Secondly, Pevara makes it clear that the Red Ajah is the one that is ''specifically trained to counter channelers'', particularly ''male'' channelers, in combat. If they practice on each other, that means that every member of the Red Ajajh has logged in more channeler-to-channeler combat hours than anyone else in the whole White Tower. By making the division of the Tower along Ajah lines, and by trying to position it such that the Red Ajah takes the most heat, and remain ostracized even after the division with Salidar was resolved, the Shadow has made the Ajah with the most chance of winning in combat against its Dreadlords into the ''least'' trusted part of the Tower. If Egwene hadn't gone to great lengths to reintegrate the Red into the Tower, the Ajah most experienced in channeler-to-channeler combat might have been held back from key engagements with Dreadlords due to being ostracized and severely crippled the Tower's combat ability. ability.
** Thirdly, before the time of the books, the only two Amyrlin Seats ever to be raised from the Red Ajah were both stripped of office for bringing the Tower into disrepute: one for betraying the nation of Manetheren to the Shadow during the Trolloc Wars, the other for trying to reduce Artur Hawkwing to a puppet king and thereby turning his entire empire against the Aes Sedai. Even with the particulars lost to history, the fact that the Red were responsible for some of the Tower's most disastrous missteps could have contributed too their bad image.

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** It's implied by many Aes Sedai and out-right said in at least one internal monologue that it is the same as rape. But her having the ability to find him is just too useful so they don't publicly punish her for it.


** Rand himself is very similar to King Arthur: King Arthur Pendragon drew from a stone the mystic blade Caliburn (he got Excalibur from the Lady of the Lake, not the stone) and was advised by the wizard Merlin. Lord al'Thor the Dragon drew from the Stone of Tear the mystic blade Callandor and one of his advisers is the bard Thom Merrilin.

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** Rand himself is very similar to King Arthur: King Arthur Pendragon drew from a stone the mystic blade Caliburn (he got Excalibur from the Lady of the Lake, not the stone) and was advised by the wizard Merlin. Lord al'Thor the Dragon drew from the Stone of Tear the mystic blade Callandor and one of his advisers is the bard Thom Merrilin.Merrilin and the other is Moiraine both similar names to "Merlin".

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** Early on in ''Winter's Heart'', Tuon catches Mat sneaking out of the ''damane'' kennels in [[spoiler:the attic of the Tarasin Palace]]. Naturally, he's just [[ChronicHeroSyndrome agreed to help Teslyn and another Aes Sedai escape]], but he tells Tuon he was bringing snacks to a ''damane'' he knew before she was collared. [[WhenSheSmiles She thinks this is very sweet]]...rather like many girls in our Age might react upon seeing that a boy they know is fond of dogs or other animals.[[note]]She also notes that some people might be tempted to [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil take advantage]] of a powerless woman wearing a leash; although she's as disgusted by the idea as Mat is, there's no doubt that it must happen sometimes back in Seanchan.[[/note]]

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*** However, Aviendha has already made changes from what she saw in the vision, from the small (changing the names of her future children) to big (getting Rand to put the Aiel in the Dragon's Peace, the Aiel declaring they will not fight the Seanchan). It's also worth noting that the vision never revealed what happened to Mat or Min after the Last Battle. With Min becoming the Empress's Truthspeaker, she may well prevent whatever led to Tuon's death (the conflict between the Seanchan and the Aiel didn't happen until after this), allowing her to react to the above conflict of beliefs. Between that and Mat and Min's overall influence, it is entirely likely the Seanchan not only won't take over the world, but they will pass through that conflict of beliefs and come out the other side a better culture, without slavery.

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** In addition, the place probably had a ''much'' higher proportion of both male and female banished channelers sent there (''any'' channelling criminal could be thrown across those bridges with the throwers being smug in the knowledge that they couldn't do a huge amount to escape). So, the city was likely drip-fed difficult channelers over the centuries between the Breaking and the White Tower finally getting strong enough to act as the stilling and severing Law and Order for rogues for the most of the continent. And, these channelers would have to merged with the baseline genepool, thereby ''increasing'' the proportion of channeling genes within a relatively closed population. Possibly also boosting the stubbornness levels, too.


* In ''{{The Wheel of Time}}'', the Seanchan view women who can [[WitchSpecies channel]] as dangerous animals that must be [[PowerNullifier leashed]] and made a damane or they will harm everyone around them. The main setting of the westlands shows this is utterly unnecessary. Then Leilwin Shipless makes a remark about how Aes Sedai must be leashed otherwise they will enslave everyone else and turn them into their property. And in Shara this is heavily implied to actually have happened. The only reason this hasn't happened in the westlands or other neighbouring regions is because the Aes Sedai have prevented any other group of channelers from doing this by making them stay hidden or be recruited by the white tower. The Seanchan actually have a very realistic point.

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* In ''{{The Wheel of Time}}'', the The Seanchan view women who can [[WitchSpecies channel]] as dangerous animals that must be [[PowerNullifier leashed]] and made a damane or they will harm everyone around them. The main setting of the westlands shows this is utterly unnecessary. Then Leilwin Shipless makes a remark about how Aes Sedai must be leashed otherwise they will enslave everyone else and turn them into their property. And in Shara this is heavily implied to actually have happened. The only reason this hasn't happened in the westlands or other neighbouring regions is because the Aes Sedai have prevented any other group of channelers from doing this by making them stay hidden or be recruited by the white tower. The Seanchan actually have a very realistic point.


** The FridgeBrilliance here isn't that her viewings have that failing, it's what it tells us about Min's ability, and connects it with something else. The Aelfinn have the ability to answer any three questions, ''so long as they don't touch upon the Dark One''. It can therefore be surmised that this is because, as with Min's ability, they cannot actually see anything to do with the Dark One, and thus cannot answer questions that do so, and it also suggests that Min's ability is the same as that of the Aelfinn.

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** The FridgeBrilliance here isn't that her viewings have that failing, failing; it's what it tells us about Min's ability, and connects it with something else. The Aelfinn have the ability to answer any three questions, ''so long as they don't touch upon the Dark One''. It can therefore be surmised that this is because, as with Min's ability, they cannot actually see anything to do with the Dark One, and thus cannot answer questions that do so, and it also suggests that Min's ability is the same as that of the Aelfinn.


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***Caliburn and Excalibur are the same sword. The Sword in the Stone didn't have a name.



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* The Seanchan reliance on omens. They've had people in their past with Min's pattern reading ability, and they took notes.


** Secondly, Pevara makes it clear that the Red Ajah is the one that is ''specifically trained to counter channelers'', particularly ''male'' channelers, in combat. If they practice on each other, that means that every member of the Red Ajajh has logged in more channeler-to-channeler combat hours than anyone else in the whole White Tower. By making the division of the Tower along Ajah lines, and by trying to position it such that the Red Ajah takes the most heat, and remain ostracized even after the division with Salidar was resolved, the Shadow has made the Ajah with the most chance of winning in combat against its Dreadlords into the ''least'' trusted part of the Tower. If Egwene had gone to great lengths to reintegrate the read into the Tower, the Ajah most experienced in channeler-to-channeler combat might have been held back from key engagement due to being ostracized and severely crippled the Tower's combat ability.

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** Secondly, Pevara makes it clear that the Red Ajah is the one that is ''specifically trained to counter channelers'', particularly ''male'' channelers, in combat. If they practice on each other, that means that every member of the Red Ajajh has logged in more channeler-to-channeler combat hours than anyone else in the whole White Tower. By making the division of the Tower along Ajah lines, and by trying to position it such that the Red Ajah takes the most heat, and remain ostracized even after the division with Salidar was resolved, the Shadow has made the Ajah with the most chance of winning in combat against its Dreadlords into the ''least'' trusted part of the Tower. If Egwene had hadn't gone to great lengths to reintegrate the read Red into the Tower, the Ajah most experienced in channeler-to-channeler combat might have been held back from key engagement engagements with Dreadlords due to being ostracized and severely crippled the Tower's combat ability.



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* At first, the continent-wide bad reputation of the Red Ajah seems undeserved and a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. After all, they're the Ajah that deal with men who can channel. When your small town is dealing with one, insane or otherwise, they're the ones most likely to show up to deal with it, and at that point depending on the damage done you'd be damned glad to see them. And yet even non-channeler characters are nervous of them. Given events of the books however, in hindsight it becomes clear there are two very major reasons for this:
** after the Aiel War, there was a continent-wide hidden massacre of men who could ''potentially'' channel perpetrated by the Black Ajah. While not ''every'' hit is likely to have been done by a once-member of the Red, certain conversations between Red Sitters make it clear that they participated in this, as an Ajah, though likely without knowing why. If many, many, ''many'' mysterious deaths all over the continent kept happening for over at most a decade (since it seemed to have stopped by Rand's maturity, and is likely to have been what killed Thom's nephew), and there's always a Red sister hanging around at the time...
** Secondly, Pevara makes it clear that the Red Ajah is the one that is ''specifically trained to counter channelers'', particularly ''male'' channelers, in combat. If they practice on each other, that means that every member of the Red Ajajh has logged in more channeler-to-channeler combat hours than anyone else in the whole White Tower. By making the division of the Tower along Ajah lines, and by trying to position it such that the Red Ajah takes the most heat, and remain ostracized even after the division with Salidar was resolved, the Shadow has made the Ajah with the most chance of winning in combat against its Dreadlords into the ''least'' trusted part of the Tower. If Egwene had gone to great lengths to reintegrate the read into the Tower, the Ajah most experienced in channeler-to-channeler combat might have been held back from key engagement due to being ostracized and severely crippled the Tower's combat ability.


** Also, in this world, The Dark One can just infer his name or have it spread among his followers. He could have it planted in his follower's mind, or even just announce it.

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** Also, in this world, The Dark One can just infer his name or have it spread among his followers. He could have it planted in his follower's mind, or even just announce it.it.
** It's probably relatively safe most of the time. Clearly the Dark One doesn't have limitless power to throw around (or he'd break everything constantly), so if you're not ta'veren and aren't one of his big enemies, it's mostly safe to say it. Additionally, the seals are weakening now; it was probably safe to say it for most of the past 3000 years.

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*** We know they survive those things because in the BadFuture that Aviendha foresaw, they break the White Tower, enslave all the Wise Ones, and take over the world.


* In ''The Dragon Reborn'' why did Else [[spoiler:most likely a disguised Lanfear at this point]] react so aggressively when she and Mat met on the Tower grounds and insist he stay far away? [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Because them 'coincidentally' meeting like that out of the blue would seem to be a ta'veren-level coincidence, and she didn't want to get any more caught up in Mat's ta'veren swirl if she could help it.]]

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* In ''The Dragon Reborn'' why did Else [[spoiler:most likely a disguised Lanfear at this point]] react so aggressively when she and Mat met on the Tower grounds and insist he stay far away? [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Because them 'coincidentally' meeting like that out of the blue would seem to be a ta'veren-level coincidence, and she didn't want to get any more caught up in Mat's ta'veren swirl if she could help it.]]

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