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* The Once-ler in the 1972 special was smart since the beggining, and had several wise lines both in the present and the past. Meanwhile, the movie Once-ler was immature and not so smart, justifying himself with a generic rock song instead of a conversation with himself, and didn't get much better when he got older; at most, his biggering speech to the Lorax or generic, fake-deep, sexist lines (not counting the "unless" phrase, which was just taken from the book). But it makes more sense considering the 1972 Once-ler was old since the beggining, going by his voice and being referred to as "old", including by himself. By the present times, he was likely nearing the few final years of his life. The 2012 Once-ler was much younger in the flashbacks, apparently in his 20s, and lost his factory only five years after that according to WordOfGod. He spent most of his life inside the Lurkim, without having enough life experience to be actually wise and say actually smart things.



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** The Lorax looks the same in the flashbacks and when he comes back at the end; there is no way Ted could have imagined him exactly identical without never having seen him. It's more likely that the flashback is from the ''Once-ler'''s imagination, being his memory of the events. Young Once-ler notices Ted interrupting the story and WordOfGod states that the marshmallow scene is an example of how it's a story being told, so not everything happened like it is in the flashbacks.


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*** Only in the movie, the Humming Fish from the book and TV special only walked after the water got polluted and they had to go away,


** Those shown in the Once-Ler's business are just his relatives; himself, his mother, his father, Aunt Grizelda, and the twins make 6 total.

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** Those shown in the Once-Ler's business are just his relatives; himself, his mother, his father, uncle, Aunt Grizelda, and the twins make 6 total.

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** The guys who worked with younger O'Hare are later seen, older, in Thneedville saying the trees run in 96 batteries. Also in that song, there is an old lady in the parking lot.

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* What if Ted or nobody else had never visited the Once-Ler, and he died? Then, the world would be polluted forever, since nobody aside from Grammy Norma knows where he lives, and the last seed would remain abandoned in the Lurkim.



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* During "How Bad Can I Be", before the Once-Ler releases the smogulous smoke, there are three Swomee Swans flying. After he releases it, there is only one. The smoke either ''vaporized'' them or made them fall to death.



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* The Once-ler and Ted bear an uncanny resemblance to each other. So do the girl who buys the first Thneed and Audrey. While the Once-ler's telling the story, this may in part be Ted's imagination of what the Once-ler's telling him; the Once-ler provides the words, Ted provides the movie's visuals. He puts himself in the Once-ler's shoes to make it easily identifiable, and puts Audrey in partly out of thinking about her during his whole quest for a tree and partly emulating the fact he likes her and she may do something like that for him.



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* During ďLet it growĒ when the two parents admit that their son glowing isnít good it is shown that they are standing right next to someone who appears to be a doctor, itís likely that that doctor told them that a glowing child isnít healthy. The doctor even looks at them as they say this.


* The realisation that a lot of us in RealLife ignore the big picture, not for ourselves, but because we want to put our families first. Just like the Once-ler.

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* The realisation that a lot of us in RealLife [[GreenAesop ignore the big picture, picture]], not for ourselves, but because we want to put our own families first. [[NotSoDifferent Just like the Once-ler.Once-ler did]]...


* It seems a little odd that the Once-ler's business growing and him becoming rich was condensed into a three minute montage (cool as it was) in the film, since that took up most of the bulk of the story in the book. But the Once-ler is the one telling the story, so of course he'd want to skim over the part where he turned into a corporate douche.

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* It seems a little odd that the Once-ler's business growing and him becoming rich was condensed into a three minute montage (cool as it was) in the film, since that took up most of the bulk of the story in the book. But the Once-ler is [[UnreliableNarrator the one telling the story, story]], so of course ''of course'' he'd want to skim over the part parts where he turned into a corporate douche.



** Given that WordOfGod stated that five entire years pass during How Bad Can I Be, that would indicate that Once-ler was deliberately condensing and/or putting off the more unflattering part of his story. Integrity is a trait he is [[SelectiveObliviousness sorely]] [[EvilIsEasy lacking,]] which is why he's not the hero.

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** Given that WordOfGod stated that five entire whole years pass during How ''How Bad Can I Be, Be'' montage, that would indicate that Once-ler was deliberately condensing and/or putting off the more unflattering part of his story. Integrity is a trait he is [[SelectiveObliviousness sorely]] [[EvilIsEasy lacking,]] which is why he's not the hero.


** As does his ego.

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** As does his ego.own [[EgoPolis ego]]...


** Thneedville as a society seems to have existed for less than 40 years; development was an ''idea'' of the Once-ler's when the Lorax lifted himself. If O'Hare took it up himself when the Once-ler's thneed business stopped and that took a few years to develop, plus another few years to get people in and attracting them with the clean air, Thneedville would have only existed about 30 years.

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** Thneedville as a society seems to have existed for less than 40 years; development was an ''idea'' of the Once-ler's when the Lorax lifted himself. If O'Hare took it up himself when the Once-ler's thneed business stopped and that took a few years to develop, plus another few years to get people in and attracting them with the clean air, Thneedville would have only existed about 30 years.years, perhaps not having but on the brink of encountering these economic problems.


** OK but, what good is it then? Like, maybe it's the socialist in me, but if the world has been transformed into a lifeless wasteland and you have to '''manufacture air itself''' then what good is money? No trees, no air, meaning no water by any logical scenario so no oceans and no rain and no real life outside of this city-state. It can't grow, it can't expand, your money is only useful in an area where everything is already owned BY YOU so what good is it? I mean, King Koopa from the 90's Mario Bros. Movie got to the same point as O'Hare, 1-for-1, but at least he was smart enough to see how useless and pathetic this existence was and wanted to get the fuck out! And he was a dinosaur, his brain was the size of a peppermint!

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** OK but, what good is it then? Like, maybe it's the socialist in me, but if the world has been transformed into a lifeless wasteland and you have to '''manufacture air itself''' then what good is money? No trees, no air, meaning no water by any logical scenario so no oceans and no rain and no real life outside of this city-state. It can't grow, it can't expand, your money is only useful in an area where everything is already owned BY YOU so what good is it? I mean, King Koopa from the 90's Mario Bros. Movie got to the same point as O'Hare, 1-for-1, but at least he was smart enough to see how useless and pathetic this existence was and wanted to get the fuck out! And he was a dinosaur, his brain was the size of a peppermint!peppermint!
** Thneedville as a society seems to have existed for less than 40 years; development was an ''idea'' of the Once-ler's when the Lorax lifted himself. If O'Hare took it up himself when the Once-ler's thneed business stopped and that took a few years to develop, plus another few years to get people in and attracting them with the clean air, Thneedville would have only existed about 30 years.
** Plus, the valley isn't the only place; the Once-ler himself came there from someone else. Outside trading is still a possible thing.



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*** The alternate version of "Thneedville" would even change this context; O'Hare has a line "Everybody here works for me" which would increase O'Hare's company substantially, but the current version of the film has neither the line nor the implication that the company is that big.



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* Something that manages to avert FridgeHorror by deviating from the original work: the other viewpoint of the good things the companies do by providing jobs isn't included because there's less than 15 people in both the Once-ler's and O'Hare's companies ''combined''.
** Those shown in the Once-Ler's business are just his relatives; himself, his mother, his father, Aunt Grizelda, and the twins make 6 total.
** O'Hare has his two goons, the deliveryman, and maybe the two electricians seen at a few other points, another 6 max. It's actually a plot point that he has to enter the chase for the Truffula seed because his only goon can't get it himself and he has so few people to go chasing after Ted.

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