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* Elsewhere on this site, tropers have commented about how part of Palpatine’s hidden agenda behind the war was to discredit the Jedi as warmongers. A careful look at the war and its participants reveals another part of his agenda. Consider that the Separatists are mainly non-human, and war is generally an effective way to engender hate and bigotry toward the other side. This is reinforced by some of the gratuitously villainous acts of prominent Separatist figures such as Count Dooku, General Grievous, and Asajj Ventress. Thus, it becomes obvious that Palpatine is subtly teaching the humans of the Republic to hate non-humans.
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* There's another reason why the Council offered to promote Ahsoka to Jedi Knight and it's a pragmatic one. Barriss, the true culprit of the bombing at the Temple and the one who framed Ahsoka, was recently promoted to Jedi Knight prior to her turn to TheDarkSide. With Barriss exposed and incarcerated, the Jedi needed another Knight in her place and Ahsoka just so happened to be a Padawan when Barriss framed her. Of course, this likely only contributed to Ahsoka's decision to leave the Order.
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* Crossing over with FridgeSadness when you realise the Lurmen from Season One will essentially have [[YouCantGoBackHomeAgain lost their original homeworld]]. The reason? Their original homeworld was ''[[CrapsackWorld Mygeeto]]'', a planet that was ravaged by one of the bloodiest and longest battles of the Clone Wars and will likely never recover.

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* Crossing over with FridgeSadness when you realise the Lurmen from Season One will essentially have [[YouCantGoBackHomeAgain [[YouCantGoHomeAgain lost their original homeworld]]. The reason? Their original homeworld was ''[[CrapsackWorld Mygeeto]]'', a planet that was ravaged by one of the bloodiest and longest battles of the Clone Wars and will likely never recover.
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* Crossing over with FridgeSadness when you realise the Lurmen from Season One will essentially have [[YouCantGoBackHomeAgain lost their original homeworld]]. The reason? Their original homeworld was ''[[CrapsackWorld Mygeeto]]'', a planet that was ravaged by one of the bloodiest and longest battles of the Clone Wars and will likely never recover.
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** Ironically, he ends up being the only member of Domino Squad to survive the Clone War.
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** It might seem odd that the Nightsisters would be willing to give some of their brothers to the Sith to train; they have little to gain from it, as they're quite powerful on their home planet. However, that's the point; their power is largely tied to Dathomir. Allowing some of their number to be trained as Sith allows them to have a wider reach in the galaxy and, presumably, some defense against external forces (not that it did much good in the end).
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* Boil and Waxxer befriend a child on Ryloth, with the slightly racist Boil being the first to approach her. Cut adopts a family. Despite their modifications and conditioning, the clones are still humans who, as shown with Jango, want children. Given Order 66 and the way they were used and discarded after the war, and with no skills outside of war, it's likely most of them didn't have any.
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** His reputation as a great pilot is because no one can hit him because no one knows what the hell he's doing.
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* Why did Anakin choose to [[GunsAkimbo dual-wield blasters]] during the Crystal Crisis arc when his lightsaber got confiscated? Because that's how [[NumberTwo Rex]] fights.
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* You know those adorable Jedi younglings that are introduced during the Young Jedi arc? Chances are they'll be killed by Anakin/Vader by the time ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' rolls around.

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* You know those adorable Jedi younglings that are introduced during the Young Jedi arc? Chances are they'll most of them will be killed by Anakin/Vader by the time ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' rolls around.[[note]]At least Gungi is known to have survived Order 66.[[/note]]
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** Additional meta brilliance, in the same game he also voiced [[TalkingToHimself the Emperor]]. There really is more than one darksider in his voice. Indeed, at some points, Son's voice changes into Palpatine's.

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** Additional meta brilliance, in the same game he also voiced [[TalkingToHimself [[ActingForTwo the Emperor]]. There really is more than one darksider in his voice. Indeed, at some points, Son's voice changes into Palpatine's.
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* When Yoda was getting visions in his own arc, he briefly witnesses a sight of Jedi fighting against the clones. While it apparently didn't give him a clear enough understanding that he could [[DoomedByCanon prevent it outright]], it may have still saved his life in the moment. While other Jedi would've felt their comrades dying through the Force, most wouldn't have even considered it being by the hands of the Clone Troopers who pledged their loyalty to them. Yoda, on the other hand, would've remembered his vision on Dagobah and put two and two together in the nick of time.
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** Savage, unlike the Zabrak in the Jedi Council that Obi-Wan is familiar with, have the markings and skin tatoos that Maul had. The guy was bulkier than Maul sure, but there was a clear similarity beyond the murder and weapon.

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** Savage, unlike the Zabrak in the Jedi Council that Obi-Wan is familiar with, have the markings and skin tatoos tattoos that Maul had. The guy was bulkier than Maul sure, but there was a clear similarity beyond the murder and weapon.



** In the EU, Obi-Wan is established as preferring Form III, which is all about defense and ''The Clone Wars'' seems to be tacitly following that bit of characterization since he tends to do more blocking and deflecting, and generally fights more defensively than Anakin or Ahsoka. So his "default setting" was to let Viszla take the offensive... which is where a Mandalorian warrior is most at home. Ahsoka, trained by Anakin, is a much more offensive fighter and gave Vizsla a much harder time because he's used to being on the attack.

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** In the EU, Obi-Wan is established as preferring Form III, which is all about defense and ''The Clone Wars'' seems to be tacitly following that bit of characterization since he tends to do more blocking and deflecting, and generally fights more defensively than Anakin or Ahsoka. So his "default setting" was to let Viszla Vizsla take the offensive... which is where a Mandalorian warrior is most at home. Ahsoka, trained by Anakin, is a much more offensive fighter and gave Vizsla a much harder time because he's used to being on the attack.



** Another possible reason, at least in ''Legends'', is that ''Order 66 is publicily known'' (the fact it's enforced by a biochip, not so much) — thus, in the incident above, Fox and the Coruscant Guard may have decided to simply apply its directives against a Jedi that, as far as they knew, was acting against the interests of the Republic, as specified by Order 66.

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** Another possible reason, at least in ''Legends'', is that ''Order 66 is publicily publicly known'' (the fact it's enforced by a biochip, not so much) — thus, in the incident above, Fox and the Coruscant Guard may have decided to simply apply its directives against a Jedi that, as far as they knew, was acting against the interests of the Republic, as specified by Order 66.
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* Why does Savage use a double-bladed lightsaber? Dooku must have given it to him, he trained him after all. Dooku is an absolute master of the second form of lightsaber combat, Makashi, a form that has a weakness to power attacks, something Savage could be devastating with. If you are to fight with a double-bladed lightsaber, you'll likely train in Form VI, Niman, one that does not utilize power attacks (and it's harder to do power attacks with a double-bladed weapon anyway). Dooku knew Savage could be a great threat, and weakened him from the beginning.

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* Why does Savage use a double-bladed lightsaber? Dooku must have given it to him, he trained him after all. Dooku is an absolute master of the second form of lightsaber combat, Makashi, a form that has a weakness to power attacks, something Savage could be devastating with. If you are to fight with a double-bladed lightsaber, you'll likely train in Form VI, Niman, one or VII, Juyo, ones that does do not utilize power attacks (and it's harder to do power attacks with a double-bladed weapon anyway). Dooku knew Savage could be a great threat, and weakened him from the beginning.
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* Remember when Luke faced the Dark Side in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''? Y'know, when Yoda told him "Your weapons...you will not need them." That's because in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCcloneWarsS6E12Destiny Destiny]]", Yoda faced his own inner darkness and won the battle without his lightsaber. He wants to teach Luke the same lesson.

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* Remember when Luke faced the Dark Side in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''? Y'know, when Yoda told him "Your weapons...you will not need them." That's because in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCcloneWarsS6E12Destiny "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E12Destiny Destiny]]", Yoda faced his own inner darkness and won the battle without his lightsaber. He wants to teach Luke the same lesson.
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* Remember when Luke faced the Dark Side in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''? Y'know, when Yoda told him "Your weapons...you will not need them." That's because in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCcloneWarsS6E12Destiny Destiny]]", Yoda faced his own inner darkness and won the battle without his lightsaber. He wants to teach Luke the same lesson.
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** In the [[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsMovie pilot movie]], a mere four [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/AV-7_Anti-vehicle_Artillery_Cannon AV-7 cannons]] mop the floor with a corps-level force, and they were already so infamous that [[OhCrap the mere mention of the cannons made the Separatist commander on Christophsis realize his forces were toast]] without the [[DeflectorShields theatre shield in place]]. Why didn't the Separatist procure anything to match such a devastating weapon? Because Sidious was keeping them from doing so.

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** In the [[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsMovie pilot movie]], a mere four [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/AV-7_Anti-vehicle_Artillery_Cannon AV-7 cannons]] mop the floor with a corps-level force, and they were already so infamous that [[OhCrap the mere mention of the cannons made the Separatist commander on Christophsis Christophsis, Whorm Loathsom, realize his forces were toast]] without the [[DeflectorShields theatre shield in place]]. Why didn't the Separatist procure anything to match such a devastating weapon? Because Sidious was keeping them from doing so.



*** Interestingly, the Separatists eventually ''do'' start employing tube artillery similar to the AV-7 to great effect... Around the time of the Battle of Coruscant, when the Separatists were now too weakened to possibly win. But with this sudden increase in their effectiveness, more Jedi were sent to the frontlines, weakening Coruscant's defenses right before Sidious started his endgame (thus giving Grievous a better chance at "kidnapping" him) and putting them where the Clonetroopers could just shoot them in the back once Order 66 was issued.

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*** Interestingly, the Separatists eventually ''do'' start employing tube artillery similar to the AV-7 to great effect...effect on their AATs... Around the time of the Battle of Coruscant, when the Separatists were now too weakened to possibly win. But with this sudden increase in their effectiveness, more Jedi were sent to the frontlines, weakening Coruscant's defenses right before Sidious started his endgame (thus giving Grievous a better chance at "kidnapping" him) and putting them where the Clonetroopers could just shoot them in the back once Order 66 was issued.



* There's one change between the story reel and finalized versions of "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E1TheBadBatch The Bad Batch]]" that is very likely setup for later known events: in the unfinished version, Rex tells the Jedi about his theory that Echo might be alive at the opening briefing. In the final version, he keeps it to himself because, as he explains when he tells Cody about it, he's not sure they'd believe him and might think he's crazy. We already know that Rex finds out about the clones' control chips before the end of the war and has his removed, and it's clear that, in order to avoid being silenced like Fives and Kix, he couldn't have told very many people about them, and he never got the chance to tell the Jedi. Given the change to this episode, it's quite likely that Rex refrained from going to the Jedi because he felt that they wouldn't believe what he had to say without incontrovertible evidence that he was telling the truth (and knowing that Anakin wouldn't believe a word against Palpatine without similarly hard proof). This change to the episode sets that up perfectly.

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* There's one change between the story reel and finalized versions of "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E1TheBadBatch The Bad Batch]]" that is very likely setup for later known events: in the unfinished version, Rex tells the Jedi about his theory that Echo might be alive at the opening briefing. In the final version, he keeps it to himself because, as he explains when he tells Cody about it, he's not sure they'd believe him and might think he's crazy. We already know that Rex finds out about the clones' control chips before the end of the war and has his removed, and it's clear that, in order to avoid being silenced like Fives and Kix, [[note]] Though this happens sometime after Anaxes [[/note]] he couldn't have told very many people about them, and he never got the chance to tell the Jedi. Given the change to this episode, it's quite likely that Rex refrained from going to the Jedi because he felt that they wouldn't believe what he had to say without incontrovertible evidence that he was telling the truth (and knowing that Anakin wouldn't believe a word against Palpatine without similarly hard proof). This change to the episode sets that up perfectly.



* Ahsoka's mission to capture Maul on Mandalore doesn't just take place at the same time as Obi-Wan's mission to deal with grievous on Utapau; they directly parallel each other.
** A Jedi is sent to deal with one of Sidious' minions -- and the minion in question is completely expendable, meaning that no matter who wins each duel, Sidious comes out ahead.

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* Ahsoka's mission to capture Maul on Mandalore doesn't just take place at the same time as Obi-Wan's mission to deal with grievous Grievous on Utapau; they directly parallel each other.
** A Jedi is sent to deal with one of Sidious' minions [[note]] Ex-minion in Maul's case. [[/note]] -- and the minion in question is completely expendable, meaning that no matter who wins each duel, Sidious comes out ahead.

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** The added bit of FridgeBrilliance kicks in with "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E20TheWrongJedi The Wrong Jedi]]". Considering how fast the Council was to accuse Ahsoka and howl for her head on flimsy evidence without allowing her to defend herself, there’s little wonder Anakin wouldn't trust their hide-bound shebs as far as he could pitch them and why he had ''very'' good reason to believe they'd throw Padmé under a bus and jump to conclusions about Palpatine. And if they were willing to execute an innocent teenage girl, then what was he going to face for ''actually'' being guilty of violating the Order's brutal "no attachment" law? Furthermore, when she leaves the Order, there goes his MoralityPet and someone he could be honest with. He's stuck with Obi-Wan, who very much bought into the dogma and who he could ''not'' be truthful with.

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** The added bit of FridgeBrilliance kicks in with "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS5E20TheWrongJedi The Wrong Jedi]]". Considering how fast the Council was to accuse Ahsoka and howl for her head on flimsy evidence without allowing her to defend herself, there’s little wonder Anakin wouldn't trust their hide-bound shebs them as far as he could pitch them and why he had ''very'' good reason to believe they'd throw Padmé under a bus and jump to conclusions about Palpatine. And if they were willing to execute an innocent teenage girl, then what was he going to face for ''actually'' being guilty of violating the Order's brutal "no attachment" law? Furthermore, when she leaves the Order, there goes his MoralityPet and someone he could be honest with. He's stuck with Obi-Wan, who (he believes) very much bought into the dogma and who he could ''not'' be truthful with.with. Of course, the tragic irony is that Obi-Wan already knew about him and Padme, but Palpatine's been working on Anakin to get him not to trust anyone else.



** And it is also undoubtedly part of why Yoda and the Council gave him a Padawan, especially a headstrong Padawan in the first place. As any teacher in any galaxy could tell you, there's nothing like teaching to gain a greater understanding of and appreciation for the subject you're teaching. And there's nothing like raising a child yourself to make you understand all those seemingly ridiculous rules your parent(s) imposed on you.

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** And it is also undoubtedly part of why Yoda and the Council gave him a Padawan, especially a headstrong Padawan in the first place. As any teacher in any galaxy could tell you, there's nothing like teaching to gain a greater understanding of and appreciation for the subject you're teaching. And there's nothing like raising a child yourself to make you understand all those seemingly ridiculous rules your parent(s) imposed on you. And once Ahsoka was Knighted, Anakin would've had to learn how to let go of someone who'd been in his life for years. Helping him get over his attachment. ''Brilliant.''


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** Plus, Maul and Savage have proven themselves dangerous enough that you'd need several Jedi to deal with them, and the Jedi are scattered all over. And if the Jedi managed to capture Maul, there's a remote possibility they could find out from him the true identity of Darth Sidious. Easier, better, and safer to do it himself.
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** Savage, unlike the Zabrak in the Jedi Council that Obi-Wan is familiar with, have the markings and skin tatoos that Maul had. The guy was bulkier than Maul sure, but there was a clear similarity beyond the murder and weapon.
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* A lot of people wonder why Anakin, the Chosen One, is having a hard time against Barriss, even with his dual lightsabers and his strength, but then you realize that he's holding back because he needs her alive to save Ahsoka, [[RealityEnsues and you can't exactly get a confession from a corpse]]. Additionally, raw power does not translate to skill. Anakin may be ''stronger'' than Barriss, but their levels of skill are clearly comparable.

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* A lot of people wonder why Anakin, the Chosen One, is having a hard time against Barriss, even with his dual lightsabers and his strength, but then you realize that he's holding back because he needs her alive to save Ahsoka, [[RealityEnsues and you can't exactly get a confession from a corpse]].corpse. Additionally, raw power does not translate to skill. Anakin may be ''stronger'' than Barriss, but their levels of skill are clearly comparable.



* At the end of "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E3OnTheWingsOfKeeradaks On the Wings of Keeradaks]]", Anakin, Rex and the Bad Batch successfully defend the Poletec village from the Techno Union's forces, with the rest of them retreating back to Purkoll. Unfortunately, it is shown that Poletecs are a primitive species armed only with spears and crab-claw weapons, RockBeatsLaser is [[RealityEnsues not in effect]] during the battle, and a lot of them get killed during said battle, only getting by with the help of a Jedi, an experienced clone captain, a crippled ARC trooper, and four superhuman clones. The Techno Union is also still on Skako Minor at the end of the episode, so what's not to say that they retaliated against the Poletecs a second time for aiding the Republic, this time with no help from Jedi or Republic forces? Not helping matters was that the unfinished reels showed that they casually kidnap Poletecs to [[TestedOnHumans test their products on]]. And by the time of ''[[ComicBook/StarWarsDoctorAphra Doctor Aphra]]'', the planet's air is a lot less breathable for non-Skakoans (whereas in the Bad Batch arc, humans seem to be able to handle Skako Minor's atmosphere just fine while Skakoans are wearing pressure suits, suggesting Skako Minor is not the latter species' original homeworld despite being NamedAfterTheirPlanet).

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* At the end of "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E3OnTheWingsOfKeeradaks On the Wings of Keeradaks]]", Anakin, Rex and the Bad Batch successfully defend the Poletec village from the Techno Union's forces, with the rest of them retreating back to Purkoll. Unfortunately, it is shown that Poletecs are a primitive species armed only with spears and crab-claw weapons, RockBeatsLaser is [[RealityEnsues [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome not in effect]] during the battle, and a lot of them get killed during said battle, only getting by with the help of a Jedi, an experienced clone captain, a crippled ARC trooper, and four superhuman clones. The Techno Union is also still on Skako Minor at the end of the episode, so what's not to say that they retaliated against the Poletecs a second time for aiding the Republic, this time with no help from Jedi or Republic forces? Not helping matters was that the unfinished reels showed that they casually kidnap Poletecs to [[TestedOnHumans test their products on]]. And by the time of ''[[ComicBook/StarWarsDoctorAphra Doctor Aphra]]'', the planet's air is a lot less breathable for non-Skakoans (whereas in the Bad Batch arc, humans seem to be able to handle Skako Minor's atmosphere just fine while Skakoans are wearing pressure suits, suggesting Skako Minor is not the latter species' original homeworld despite being NamedAfterTheirPlanet).
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** Ultimately rendered a non-issue by ''The Bad Batch''. Cut is shown perfectly OK along with his family.
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* Why do Grievous and Obi-Wan confront each other so many times throughout the series? Because Palpatine, being in charge of both sides of the war, is deliberately setting them against each other in hopes that Grievous--an accomplished lightsaber duelist, will kill Obi-Wan, sending Anakin further down the Dark Side. The failure of Grievous to kill Obi-Wan as the war goes on works out as well, as it means that the duo become rivals and in the eyes of the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan becomes ''the'' expert on Grievous and his methods, enabling Palpatine to manipulate circumstances to ensure that Obi-Wan and Grievous don't necessarily have to be where ''Anakin'' is. As such, when Grievous is located on Utapau, Obi-Wan and ''only''' Obi-Wan is sent to confront him... Leaving Anakin isolated, just as Palpatine desires.

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* Why do Grievous and Obi-Wan confront each other so many times throughout the series? Because Palpatine, being in charge of both sides of the war, is deliberately setting them against each other in hopes that Grievous--an accomplished lightsaber duelist, will kill Obi-Wan, sending Anakin further down the Dark Side. The failure of Grievous to kill Obi-Wan as the war goes on works out as well, as it means that the duo become rivals and in the eyes of the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan becomes ''the'' expert on Grievous and his methods, enabling Palpatine to manipulate circumstances to ensure that Obi-Wan and Grievous don't necessarily have to be where ''Anakin'' is. As such, when Grievous is located on Utapau, Obi-Wan and ''only''' ''only'' Obi-Wan is sent to confront him... Leaving Anakin isolated, just as Palpatine desires.

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* The events of ''Blue Shadow Virus'' and ''Mystery of a Thousand Moons''
** Where would Vindi and the Separatists get a facility on Naboo on all planets to do the research? Palpatine, a native of the planet, who likely could 'lose' a few ships and facilities to ship in battle droids past a Naboo guard that would be ''very'' suspicious of any droid movements after the Trade Federation invasion. Why research reviving a dangerous plague virus on Naboo? Because if it was successfully used on the planet it would be a ''giant'' boon for Palpatine. Being the last Nabooian would give him a huge sympathy boost, and the shock of such a successful viral attack would give him a lot of leeway to crack down on the galaxy even faster. The Naboo being mostly known as humans, and Vindi being an alien, would also be a propaganda boon.
** The virus leaking was likely an actual mistake: Palpatine gains a lot more from a successful infection than a stopped one. He can make something out of it, but nowhere near as much as a poisoned Naboo. Heck it wasn't likely even an attempt to get Anakin to fall faster via freaking out over an infected Ahsoka and Padme because he could end up stuck on Iego, a planet that is very much ''not'' useful for him to have his perfect apprentice stuck on.

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* Why do Grievous and Obi-Wan confront each other so many times throughout the series? Because Palpatine, being in charge of both sides of the war, is deliberately setting them against each other in hopes that Grievous--an accomplished lightsaber duelist, will kill Obi-Wan, sending Anakin further down the Dark Side. The failure of Grievous to kill Obi-Wan as the war goes on works out as well, as it means that the duo become rivals and in the eyes of the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan becomes ''the'' expert on Grievous and his methods, enabling Palpatine to manipulate circumstances to ensure that Obi-Wan and Grievous don't necessarily have to be where ''Anakin'' is. As such, when Grievous is located on Utapau, Obi-Wan and ''only''' Obi-Wan is sent to confront him...leaving Anakin isolated, just as Palpatine desires.

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* Why do Grievous and Obi-Wan confront each other so many times throughout the series? Because Palpatine, being in charge of both sides of the war, is deliberately setting them against each other in hopes that Grievous--an accomplished lightsaber duelist, will kill Obi-Wan, sending Anakin further down the Dark Side. The failure of Grievous to kill Obi-Wan as the war goes on works out as well, as it means that the duo become rivals and in the eyes of the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan becomes ''the'' expert on Grievous and his methods, enabling Palpatine to manipulate circumstances to ensure that Obi-Wan and Grievous don't necessarily have to be where ''Anakin'' is. As such, when Grievous is located on Utapau, Obi-Wan and ''only''' Obi-Wan is sent to confront him...leaving Leaving Anakin isolated, just as Palpatine desires.desires.
** There's also another reason, one Grievous would have by himself: Grievous is an expert in ''all'' Jedi lightsaber styles and knows all their strengths and weakness, and he'd quickly realize that Obi-Wan is a master of Soresu, the ''only'' one that can actually pose a threat to him in a lightsaber duel (this being actually the reason Mace Windu gives Obi-Wan in Matt Stover's novelization of ''Revenge of the Sith'': he had tried to fight Grievous head-on with his incredibly powerful Vaapad and ''found himself overpowered'', but Soresu's parries are a perfect counter to Grievous' flurry of attacks). At least part of their encounters are Grievous trying to off Obi-Wan before his skills with Soresu become great enough he can defeat him in a straight fight... But it never happens, and when their final duel on Utapau Obi-Wan cuts off one of his hands with a parry [[OhCrap Grievous realizes his fear has materialized]].

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* In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E8TogetherAgain Together Again]]" Maul senses Ahsoka spying on his communication with the Pykes, but doesn't warn them. In "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS7E10ThePhantomApprentice The Phantom Apprentice]]" Almec reveals Maul ''wanted'' to be found so he could kill Anakin... So Ahsoka being in position to do just that worked in his favor.

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** At about the same time, Dooku is trying to ally himself with the Hutt Clans. Since the series was made before Disney bought the franchise, it was canon that the worlds of the Tion Cluster hated and feared the Hutt for the many Hutt-Tionese wars before the Republic conquered the Hegemony, and especially [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Devouring The Devouring]]... And as it happens, the core of the Separatist Alliance, including its capital of Raxus, is the Tionese Hegemony. No matter who Jabba allied himself with, the Separatists would be weakened either by the Hutts helping the Republic or the Tion worlds turning on them in fear and disgust.

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*** Interestingly, the Separatists eventually ''do'' start employing tube artillery similar to the AV-7 to great effect... Around the time of the Battle of Coruscant, when the Separatists were now too weakened to possibly win. But with this sudden increase in their effectiveness, more Jedi were sent to the frontlines, weakening Coruscant's defenses right before Sidious started his endgame (thus giving Grievous a better chance at "kidnapping" him) and putting them where the Clonetroopers could just shoot them in the back once Order 66 was issued.
** At about the same time, time of the Battle of Christophsis, Dooku is trying to ally himself with the Hutt Clans. Since the series was made before Disney bought the franchise, it was canon that the worlds of the Tion Cluster hated and feared the Hutt for the many Hutt-Tionese wars before the Republic conquered the Hegemony, and especially [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Devouring The Devouring]]... And as it happens, the core of the Separatist Alliance, including its capital of Raxus, is the Tionese Hegemony. No matter who Jabba allied himself with, the Separatists would be weakened either by the Hutts helping the Republic or the Tion Tionese worlds turning on them in fear and disgust.
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*** In Legends we see that Grievous earned his job in a similar way: Dooku sent Asajj Ventress and Durge after him with orders to kill him, and gave him the job after he defeated them. Not only this has ''nothing'' to do with the strategic skills the supreme commander of a military needs, it put him at odds with Ventress and sabotaged both. Plus, it's implied that if they had succeeded one of them would have gotten the job... And they had ''none'' of Grievous' talent and experience.

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* Ahsoka's mission to capture Maul on Mandalore doesn't just take place at the same time as Obi-Wan's mission to deal with grievous on Utapau; they directly parallel each other.
** A Jedi is sent to deal with one of Sidious' minions -- and the minion in question is completely expendable, meaning that no matter who wins each duel, Sidious comes out ahead.
** Both Jedi are very close to Anakin and can bring out his better side -- and by going on missions to faraway planets, they leave Anakin on Coruscant with Palpatine, vulnerable to the final phase of his temptations.
** Both Jedi are now surrounded by clones -- who are programmed to obey Order 66.

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* Anakin being summoned back to Coruscant during the Battle of Umbara is a move on Palpatine's part to further drive a wedge in the Jedi's ability to fight the war. With Anakin absent, Pong Krell takes over and gets a good chunk of the 501st (and the 212th) killed, and the fact that he is also a Jedi (a fallen Jedi, but Jedi nonetheless) would no doubt result in public trust in the Jedi being eroded further...just as he plans.
* Palpatine's decision to fight Maul face-to-face on Mandalore during The Lawless is at least partially rooted in ensuring the Clone Wars aren't disrupted by Maul suddenly gaining the resources of an entire star system. He cannot openly order Republic forces to attack the planet at that time because Mandalore is neutral, and the Separatists would hardly see the point in picking a fight with a ProudWarriorRaceGuy civilization when they're already contending with the Republic. Either option means that Maul could get away and continue his work, and so Palpatine chooses to ''personally'' travel to Mandalore and deal with Maul himself, ensuring that Maul is actually removed from play and that the Clone Wars can continue without being disrupted by the new third-player on the field.
* Kamino has a dedicated military force to protect it by the events of Season 6. Given that the planet has been the focus of several attacks by now, the Republic can hardly afford to keep shuffling other military units to protect it, and as such the Kamino Security Force is created with the express purpose to defend the planet, freeing up troops to fight in other campaigns.
* Shaak-Ti being assigned to oversee the training and production of clone troops on Kamino is a metaphor for the Jedi and their relationship with the clones. The Jedi, fully aware that the clones are considered by many (and sometimes even themselves) to be expendable in the defense of the Republic, purposefully assigned one of their most compassionate and patient members to help the clones discover and assert their humanity. Hence why the clones generally have a good working relationship with the Jedi once they're deployed--they've learned first-hand that the Jedi truly see them as equals.
* Why do Grievous and Obi-Wan confront each other so many times throughout the series? Because Palpatine, being in charge of both sides of the war, is deliberately setting them against each other in hopes that Grievous--an accomplished lightsaber duelist, will kill Obi-Wan, sending Anakin further down the Dark Side. The failure of Grievous to kill Obi-Wan as the war goes on works out as well, as it means that the duo become rivals and in the eyes of the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan becomes ''the'' expert on Grievous and his methods, enabling Palpatine to manipulate circumstances to ensure that Obi-Wan and Grievous don't necessarily have to be where ''Anakin'' is. As such, when Grievous is located on Utapau, Obi-Wan and ''only''' Obi-Wan is sent to confront him...leaving Anakin isolated, just as Palpatine desires.

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