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* Hey cool, there's [[spoiler:still life around on planet Earth]] ! It's a [[spoiler:polar bear, the biggest terrestrial predator]], a few dozen meters away from a [[spoiler:teenage junkie and a five-years-old boy]]. Guess how that ends...
* Everyone on the train was dead from the moment that the windows were shot out unless super armored glass is easier to make than a [[spoiler:engine degreaser]].

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* Hey cool, there's [[spoiler:still life around on planet Earth]] ! Earth]]! It's a [[spoiler:polar bear, the biggest terrestrial predator]], a few dozen meters away from a [[spoiler:teenage junkie and a five-years-old boy]]. Guess how that ends...
* Everyone on the train was dead from the moment that the windows were shot out unless super armored glass is easier to make than a an [[spoiler:engine degreaser]].


* How did [[spoiler:Timmy]] find a [[spoiler:fur suit, complete with boots]] that fits him perfectly ? Was there a stash of them in one of the first few cars ?

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* How did [[spoiler:Timmy]] find a [[spoiler:fur suit, complete with boots]] that fits him perfectly ? perfectly? Was there a stash of them in one of the first few cars ?cars?

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** As far as the frontenders were concerned, Wilford was basically the sole person responsible for saving them from a (probably) slow and agonising death being frozen with the rest of humanity. Not to mention that as soon as they got on board and the caste system was being established, Wilford probably made it clear that those who showed the most devotion to him would be likely to become one of his "inner circle" as it were, which they'd probably assume would mean more luxuries. It's actually hardly surprising that such a cult around him had been established within 17 years, particularly when there seemed to be a population which appeared to be mostly around 30-45 (for reference, Curtis is 34 and it's hinted quite a few times that he can't remember much of life before the train). People are inherently fairly adaptable; since the frontenders' experiences of life on the train seemed to be quite pleasant, why would they even bother trying to remember what was likely a very panicked and stress-filled life before that instead of just accepting that yes, Wilford chose to save them and they therefore owe him everything?


*** what if that machine is responsible for the missing parts?




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* Everyone on the train was dead from the moment that the windows were shot out unless super armored glass is easier to make than a [[spoiler:engine degreaser]].


* How did [[spoiler:Timmy]] find a [[spoiler:fur suit, complete with boots]] that fits him perfectly ? Was there a stash of them in one of the first few cars ?

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* How did [[spoiler:Timmy]] find a [[spoiler:fur suit, complete with boots]] that fits him perfectly ? Was there a stash of them in one of the first few cars ??
** There were furs in the luxury-cars where the drug party was going on. Presumably everyone who boarded the train originally had been bundled up in thick coats in order to survive the journey to the station, and discarded their outerwear once they got inside where it was warm. The furs weren't thrown away - Wilford's preaching aside, many people would've still been hoping the planet would thaw or the equatorial regions would prove habitable once the train got there - and were eventually placed in the party/orgy room as a bit of decadent decor. There'd be some child-sized coats among these, as the front-enders presumably brought their own kids with them; note that there are people in their 20s among the party crowd.


** We only know that the tail-enders originally fought their way onto the train, not how the rest of the people on board were admitted. Could be that Wilford selectively recruited a bunch of fanatical devotees ''before'' the world froze, gave them all tickets, and then had any of them who might have developed second thoughts about his dogma tossed out into the snow.

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** We only know that the tail-enders originally fought their way onto the train, not how the rest of the people on board were admitted. Could be that Wilford selectively recruited a bunch of fanatical devotees ''before'' the world froze, gave them all tickets, and then had any of them who might have developed second thoughts about his dogma tossed out into the snow.snow.
* How did [[spoiler:Timmy]] find a [[spoiler:fur suit, complete with boots]] that fits him perfectly ? Was there a stash of them in one of the first few cars ?



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* Hey cool, there's [[spoiler:still life around on planet Earth]] ! It's a [[spoiler:polar bear, the biggest terrestrial predator]], a few dozen meters away from a [[spoiler:teenage junkie and a five-years-old boy]]. Guess how that ends...


** Or he's being nitpicky about how the children didn't ''walk'' the entire length: they were picked up and carried. It's a long train, and little kids who've spent their whole lives stuck in three or four boxcars aren't going to have much stamina.

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** Or he's being nitpicky about how the children didn't ''walk'' the entire length: they were picked up and carried. It's a long train, and little kids who've spent their whole lives stuck in three or four inside a dozen-odd cramped boxcars aren't going to have much stamina.


** Wilford himself suggests that everyone aboard is at least slightly mad. The front-enders are over-indoctrinated because they're trying to cope with both the end of the world [[spoiler:and being intentionally kept in terror of both the tail-enders and the possible failure of the engine]].

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** Wilford himself suggests that everyone aboard is at least slightly mad. The front-enders are over-indoctrinated because they're trying to cope with both the end of the world [[spoiler:and being intentionally kept in terror of both the tail-enders and the possible failure of the engine]].engine]].
** We only know that the tail-enders originally fought their way onto the train, not how the rest of the people on board were admitted. Could be that Wilford selectively recruited a bunch of fanatical devotees ''before'' the world froze, gave them all tickets, and then had any of them who might have developed second thoughts about his dogma tossed out into the snow.


* When Wilford states that Curtis is the first person to have ever traveled the entire length of the train, he somehow forgets that the kids he has as replacement parts were taken from the tail end to the front as well.

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* When Wilford states that Curtis is the first person to have ever traveled the entire length of the train, he somehow forgets that the kids he has [[spoiler: as replacement parts parts]] were taken from the tail end to the front as well.



** Or the children didn't ''traverse'' the entire length: they were picked up and carried. It's a long train, and little kids who've spent their whole lives stuck in three or four boxcars aren't going to have much stamina.

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** Or he's being nitpicky about how the children didn't ''traverse'' ''walk'' the entire length: they were picked up and carried. It's a long train, and little kids who've spent their whole lives stuck in three or four boxcars aren't going to have much stamina.

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** Or the children didn't ''traverse'' the entire length: they were picked up and carried. It's a long train, and little kids who've spent their whole lives stuck in three or four boxcars aren't going to have much stamina.

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*** Possibly it was originally intended to process animal feed for the chickens and fish.


* The front-enders are ''way'' too indoctrinated in the Wilford cult, aren't they? Mason reacts to the schoolchildren's hymn like it's a childhood favorite, but it's only been 17 years. And no parents are objecting to the cult? Everyone converted religions in less than two decades? The movie seems a bit at war with itself; it wants its characters to remember the outside world and simultaneously act like they all grew up on the train.

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* The front-enders are ''way'' too indoctrinated in the Wilford cult, aren't they? Mason reacts to the schoolchildren's hymn like it's a childhood favorite, but it's only been 17 years. And no parents are objecting to the cult? Everyone converted religions in less than two decades? The movie seems a bit at war with itself; it wants its characters to remember the outside world and simultaneously act like they all grew up on the train.train.
** Wilford himself suggests that everyone aboard is at least slightly mad. The front-enders are over-indoctrinated because they're trying to cope with both the end of the world [[spoiler:and being intentionally kept in terror of both the tail-enders and the possible failure of the engine]].


** Answered by more Fridge Logic. Given how he treats the children [[spoiler:as spare parts and not ''people'']], he's entirely right in his thinking Curtis is the first [[spoiler:''person'']] to have traversed the length of the train.

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** Answered by more Fridge Logic. Given how he treats the children [[spoiler:as spare parts and not ''people'']], he's entirely right in his thinking Curtis is the first [[spoiler:''person'']] to have traversed the length of the train.
* The front-enders are ''way'' too indoctrinated in the Wilford cult, aren't they? Mason reacts to the schoolchildren's hymn like it's a childhood favorite, but it's only been 17 years. And no parents are objecting to the cult? Everyone converted religions in less than two decades? The movie seems a bit at war with itself; it wants its characters to remember the outside world and simultaneously act like they all grew up on the
train.


** Answered by more Fridge Logic. Given how he treats the children [[spoiler:as spare parts and not ''people'']], he's entirely right in his thinking Curtis is the first [[spoiler:''person''] to have traversed the length of the train.

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** Answered by more Fridge Logic. Given how he treats the children [[spoiler:as spare parts and not ''people'']], he's entirely right in his thinking Curtis is the first [[spoiler:''person''] [[spoiler:''person'']] to have traversed the length of the train.

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