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** [[spoiler: Depends how strong the acid is, and what the floor's actually made of in that room. At a minimum, though, they might at least have tested a single drop on someone's ''skin'', to check if it stung, before shooting it into Carly's bloodstream ... maybe even ''Carly's'' skin, since it was her life most at stake. Given that they'd ''already'' shown they had the nerve to touch a spinning saw blade, it can't even be argued that they feared the risk of a painful chemical burn too much to try.]]

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** [[spoiler: Depends how strong the acid is, and what the floor's actually made of in that room. At a minimum, though, they might at least have tested a single drop on someone's ''skin'', to check if it stung, before shooting it into Carly's bloodstream ... maybe even ''Carly's'' skin, since it was her life most at stake. Given that they'd ''already'' shown they had the nerve to touch a spinning saw blade, it can't even be argued that they feared the risk of a painful chemical burn too much to try.]]]]
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* Crossing over with fridge horror but how is it that Jigsaw [[spoiler: and Amanda, Hoffman and so forth]] were able to know how much poison or whatever to use on their victims prior to kidnapping them? I mean [[spoiler: ''Film/{{Jigsaw}}'' finally gave us an example of someone who ''didn't'' wake up in uniform time like the other victims, only to be awakened by Kramer due to him realizing how "unfair" it would be to be killed in his sleep]], but was there ever an incident where someone had an adverse reaction to the poison (due to taking something else that screwed with the effectiveness of the drug) or perhaps even an overdose of what they had pumped into them?

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* Crossing over with fridge horror but how is it that Jigsaw [[spoiler: and Amanda, Hoffman and so forth]] were able to know how much poison poison, drugs, or whatever sedatives to use on their victims prior to kidnapping them? I mean [[spoiler: ''Film/{{Jigsaw}}'' finally gave us an example of someone who ''didn't'' wake up in uniform time like the other victims, only to be awakened by Kramer due to him realizing how "unfair" it would be to be killed in his sleep]], but was there ever an incident where someone had an adverse reaction to the poison (due to taking something else that screwed with the effectiveness of the drug) or perhaps even an overdose of what they had pumped into them?


* How is it that Jigsaw [[spoiler: and Amanda, Hoffman and so forth]] was able to know how much poison or whatever to use on their victims prior to kidnapping them? I mean [[spoiler: ''Film/{{Jigsaw}}'' finally gave us an example of someone who ''didn't'' wake up in uniform time like the other victims, only to be awakened by Kramer due to him realizing how "unfair" it would be to be killed in his sleep]], but was there ever an incident where someone had an adverse reaction to the poison (due to taking something else that screwed with the effectiveness of the drug) or perhaps even an overdose of what they had pumped into them?

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* How Crossing over with fridge horror but how is it that Jigsaw [[spoiler: and Amanda, Hoffman and so forth]] was were able to know how much poison or whatever to use on their victims prior to kidnapping them? I mean [[spoiler: ''Film/{{Jigsaw}}'' finally gave us an example of someone who ''didn't'' wake up in uniform time like the other victims, only to be awakened by Kramer due to him realizing how "unfair" it would be to be killed in his sleep]], but was there ever an incident where someone had an adverse reaction to the poison (due to taking something else that screwed with the effectiveness of the drug) or perhaps even an overdose of what they had pumped into them?

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* Billy the freakish little puppet can seem oddly out of place in a series full of torture machinery and gritty, realistic violence. But consider what the core of the franchise really is: manipulation. Jigsaw is TheChessmaster through and through, and almost everyone, victim or villain, has been at one point a pawn in his long running game, from apprentices like Amanda and Hoffman to hapless hostages like Lynn or Adam. John runs everything behind the scenes all the way to his death, like a gruesome puppet show. Billy is the mascot because he symbolizes the game as a whole and the mechanical nature of Jigsaw's puppetry.

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* In Saw II, Amanda and Daniel are the only ones in the house who aren't coughing or showing other signs of dying. This shows that they have already been given the antidote.



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* Also from ''VI''; there's no indication that the button for the carousel trap actually disables after William presses it twice. What if there wasn't a limit? What if he could have saved all six of them?


*** Considering how messed up William's head clearly was by the time the carousel's potential targets were reduced to two, it's entirely plausible that he decided ''not to decide at all'', and just left it to luck: whichever person was the next to halt in front of the shotgun, male or female, he'd save. It's not like he was demonstrably counting how many spaces it turned between one firing and the next, after all; the guy was barely coherent by then.

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*** Considering how messed up William's head clearly was by the time the carousel's potential targets were reduced to two, it's entirely plausible that he decided ''not to decide at all'', and just left it to luck: whichever person was the next to halt in front of the shotgun, male or female, he'd save. It's not like he was demonstrably counting how many spaces it turned between one firing and the next, after all; between the pain, horror, guilt, grief, fear, ''and'' having the entire Dog Pit shouting at him and each other non-stop, the guy was barely coherent by then.then. Hell, he couldn't even ''look'' at the trap anymore.

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*** Considering how messed up William's head clearly was by the time the carousel's potential targets were reduced to two, it's entirely plausible that he decided ''not to decide at all'', and just left it to luck: whichever person was the next to halt in front of the shotgun, male or female, he'd save. It's not like he was demonstrably counting how many spaces it turned between one firing and the next, after all; the guy was barely coherent by then.


** Depends how strong the acid is. At a minimum, though, they might at least have tested a single drop on someone's ''skin'' before shooting it into someone's bloodstream, to see if it stung ... maybe even ''Carly's'' skin, since it was her life most at stake.

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** [[spoiler: Depends how strong the acid is. is, and what the floor's actually made of in that room. At a minimum, though, they might at least have tested a single drop on someone's ''skin'' ''skin'', to check if it stung, before shooting it into someone's bloodstream, to see if it stung ...Carly's bloodstream ... maybe even ''Carly's'' skin, since it was her life most at stake. Given that they'd ''already'' shown they had the nerve to touch a spinning saw blade, it can't even be argued that they feared the risk of a painful chemical burn too much to try.]]


* In ''Jigsaw'', with the part consisting of the [[spoiler: three syringes, why didn't they just test them on the ground? Surely the acid-filled one's reaction would have been obvious.]]

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* In ''Jigsaw'', with the part consisting of the [[spoiler: three syringes, why didn't they just test them on the ground? Surely the acid-filled one's reaction would have been obvious.]]]]
** Depends how strong the acid is. At a minimum, though, they might at least have tested a single drop on someone's ''skin'' before shooting it into someone's bloodstream, to see if it stung ... maybe even ''Carly's'' skin, since it was her life most at stake.



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** [[spoiler:Or at the beginning, at the very least. Jigsaw must have realized that should Hoffman find a way to survive his test, then Jill will be in great danger. Which is why he arranged for Dr. Gordon to execute Hoffman just before his death; as ''Saw VI'' implies, John knew Hoffman's sociopathy makes him unfit to continue his legacy.]]


** Except it's apparently well known by that point that Jigsaw and his various apprentices and BoxedCrook patsies ''monitor'' the trap victims remotely. The people in Bobby's support group have probably mentioned cameras being present or tapes and screens demonstrating that they were being watched. So out-and-out ''cheating'' his way through a trap probably didn't seem like a viable strategy.

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** Except it's apparently well known by that point that Jigsaw and his various apprentices and BoxedCrook patsies ''monitor'' the trap victims remotely. The people in Bobby's support group have probably mentioned cameras being present present, or tapes and screens demonstrating offering messages that demonstrated that they were being watched. So out-and-out ''cheating'' his way through a trap probably didn't seem like a viable strategy.

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** Except it's apparently well known by that point that Jigsaw and his various apprentices and BoxedCrook patsies ''monitor'' the trap victims remotely. The people in Bobby's support group have probably mentioned cameras being present or tapes and screens demonstrating that they were being watched. So out-and-out ''cheating'' his way through a trap probably didn't seem like a viable strategy.

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*** Well, apart from Emily nobody made much of an argument in their favor. AND he still didn't save any man, and one of the three women he saves was exposed as lying, along with the only one he didn't, so we can say gender IS an issue. And it makes sense that these choices could be interpreted by an angry grieving teenager as sexism, because you can make the case that it unconsciously is. And TBH, killing the loner because 'no one would miss him' was the wrong choice to make.

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