Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Fridge / ReturnOfTheJedi

Go To


Added DiffLines:

*** The reference is to the original story. . . when ''Star Wars'' was too big for one movie, so Lucas basically took the "first act" and made that into its own movie. In that original story, the final battle against the Empire and destruction of the Death Star (there was only one) would have taken place over the green moon of Endor, which was home to Wookiees, not Ewoks (but George liked Chewbacca the Wookiee too much to excise him from the film, so he was turned into Han's copilot). The intention was for the Wookiees to be the same kind of Stone Age society the Ewoks are, who would defeat the Empire with numbers and knowledge of the terrain. But being Wookiees, would be three times the size of Ewoks and possessed of all the strength and savagery Chewbacca is famous for. So the Empire still would have dismissed these "Stone Age primitives" as posing no ''real'' threat. . . dangerous if a small patrol gets snuck up on by them, sure, but certainly not capable of toppling the mighty Imperial war machine, no matter how big and strong they might be individually.


** Going further, while Luke has more in common with Padme in terms of personality, being idealistic and generally calm, LEIA is in fact just like Anakin was at her age; snarky, impulsive, aggressive, and always insisting on doing things her way. Can become FridgeHorror since it might all suggest that Vader was right and that Leia would turn to the Dark Side if tempted, unlike Luke...

to:

** Going further, while Luke has more in common with Padme Padmé in terms of personality, being idealistic and generally calm, LEIA ''Leia'' is in fact just like Anakin was at her age; snarky, impulsive, aggressive, and always insisting on doing things her way. Can become FridgeHorror since it might all suggest that Vader was right and that Leia would turn to the Dark Side if tempted, unlike Luke...



to:

** Going further, while Luke has more in common with Padme in terms of personality, being idealistic and generally calm, LEIA is in fact just like Anakin was at her age; snarky, impulsive, aggressive, and always insisting on doing things her way. Can become FridgeHorror since it might all suggest that Vader was right and that Leia would turn to the Dark Side if tempted, unlike Luke...


* Vader can sense Luke through the Force. ''Every'' Rebel ship and base he goes to has had a huge target painted on it.

to:

* Vader can sense Luke through the Force. ''Every'' Rebel ship and base he goes to has had a huge target painted on it. Crosses over into [[FridgeBrilliance fridge brilliance]] territory as it reveals an additional motivation for Luke to surrender to his father; with Luke being his prisoner, Vader won't be able to sense the location of the Rebel strike team through him, nor would he be able to play a direct role in the coming battle as he did at the Battle of Yavin to devastating effect.


** Or why Oola adamantly refused to get any closer to Jabba's throne.

to:

** Or why Oola adamantly refused to get any closer to Jabba's throne.throne, even knowing it risked pissing Jabba off and dropping her to the Rancor Pit.


** It also explains why Palpatine went from gleeful to downright pissed when Luke rejected the Dark Side. All this time, Palpatine was only seeing the Anakin's side of Luke and thought he would be easy to corrupt just like his father. He forgot that Luke was also Padmé's son and that Padmé had been the biggest thorn on his side for years until her untimely death. When Luke declared himself to be a Jedi, Sidious realized that he was staring at Padmé giving one last "Fuck You" to his whole regime.

to:

** It also explains why Palpatine went from gleeful to downright pissed when Luke rejected the Dark Side. All this time, Palpatine was only seeing the Anakin's Anakin side of Luke and thought he would be easy to corrupt just like his father. He forgot that Luke was also Padmé's ''Padmé's'' son and that Padmé had been the biggest thorn on his side for years until her untimely death. When Luke declared himself to be a Jedi, Sidious realized that he was staring at Padmé giving one last "Fuck You" to his whole regime.


* Luke's lightsaber is modeled after Obi-Wan's, only with a green blade instead of blue. In ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', Qui-Gon Jinn, the Jedi Master who instructed Obi-Wan and discovered Anakin, is also shown using a green lightsaber. So, Luke has a lightsaber based upon the two Jedi masters in Anakin's life. And like Luke throughout this film, Qui-Gon fervently believes in Anakin's inner goodness as others as skeptical.

to:

* Luke's lightsaber is modeled after Obi-Wan's, only with a green blade instead of blue. In ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', Qui-Gon Jinn, the Jedi Master who instructed Obi-Wan and discovered Anakin, is also shown using a green lightsaber. So, Luke has a lightsaber based upon the two Jedi masters Masters in Anakin's life. And like Luke throughout this film, Qui-Gon fervently believes in Anakin's inner goodness as others as skeptical.



* Throughout the entire movie, Luke keeps [[InsistentTerminology referring to himself]] as a Jedi Knight. Exactly nobody seems to take him seriously in this claim, including the only remaining Jedi master, Yoda. Vader has been referring to Luke as a Jedi since ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', but the first character to ''address'' Luke as a Jedi is the [[BigBad Dark Lord of the Sith]] himself. "So be it... Jedi." He effectively knights Luke on the spot. And then tries to kill him with lightning.

to:

* Throughout the entire movie, Luke keeps [[InsistentTerminology referring to himself]] as a Jedi Knight. Exactly nobody seems to take him seriously in this claim, including the only remaining Jedi master, Master, Yoda. Vader has been referring to Luke as a Jedi since ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', but the first character to ''address'' Luke as a Jedi is the [[BigBad Dark Lord of the Sith]] himself. "So be it... Jedi." He effectively knights Luke on the spot. And then tries to kill him with lightning.

Added DiffLines:

** Legends actually answers all the questions with ''Film/StarWarsEwokAdventures'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Ewoks}}''. Endor is one dangerous place...


* As an example of "wow, that was more messed up than I thought" (in the vein of some adults' reaction to ''Literature/{{Coraline}}'', ''Literature/TheButterBattleBook'', the "Hellfire" sequence in ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', etc.)...Admit it, you never fully realised what Jabba did (or at least planned on doing) to Leia as a kid, did you?

to:

* As an example of "wow, that was more messed up than I thought" (in the vein of some adults' reaction to ''Literature/{{Coraline}}'', ''Literature/TheButterBattleBook'', the "Hellfire" sequence in ''Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', etc.)...Admit it, you never fully realised what Jabba did (or at least planned on doing) to Leia as a kid, did you?

Added DiffLines:

*** Not really: Kashyyyk, ''the'' planet of Wookies, is firmly in Imperial hands... Because the Empire knows better than underestimating ''them'', and has experimented their extremely effective technology when they conquered the place. Endor, on the other hand, was mostly unknown to them, and they underestimated the local primitives.

Added DiffLines:

* Ever wondered why the Death Star had turned to show the superlaser toward the Forest Moon by the time it exploded? The deleted scenes show it-[[TakingYouWithMe Palpatine was just that petty]].

Added DiffLines:

** Or why Oola adamantly refused to get any closer to Jabba's throne.

Added DiffLines:

** Two or three Star Destroyers and this particular shield configuration would have been a believable guard force, two Star Destroyers, the shield and the ''Executor'' would seem overkill... Except this was the Death Star and Darth Vader and the Emperor were on board. To anyone who doesn't know of Palpatine's plan, the first two ships and the shield were the normal guard force, with the ''Executor'' being an addition brough by the presence of the Empire's two highest-ranked members.

Added DiffLines:

** Even then, it could just be that Vader's old. If he was roughly 30 at the time of 'Revenge Of The Sith', and 'A New Hope' takes place about 20 years later, then with a few years between each sequel, by the time of 'Return Of The Jedi' Vader is close to 60 years old. As strong with the Force as he may be, he's still old and after going through so much in his life, he'll begin to wear down. He holds his own against Luke for most of the fight, until Luke's rage overtakes him and Vader just can't keep up anymore


** It also explains why Palpatine went from gleeful to downright pissed when Luke rejected the Dark Side. All this time, Palpatine was only seeing the Anakin's side of Luke and thought he would be easy to corrupt just like his father. He forgot that Luke was Padmé's son and that Padmé had been the biggest thorn on his side for years until her untimely death. When Luke declared himself to be a Jedi, Sidious realized that he was staring at Padmé giving one last "Fuck You" to his whole regime.

to:

** It also explains why Palpatine went from gleeful to downright pissed when Luke rejected the Dark Side. All this time, Palpatine was only seeing the Anakin's side of Luke and thought he would be easy to corrupt just like his father. He forgot that Luke was also Padmé's son and that Padmé had been the biggest thorn on his side for years until her untimely death. When Luke declared himself to be a Jedi, Sidious realized that he was staring at Padmé giving one last "Fuck You" to his whole regime.

Showing 15 edit(s) of 121

Top

How well does it match the trope?

Example of:

/

Media sources:

/

Report