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* K mentions he has regular CAT scans, which makes perfect sense since aliens can assume nearly perfect human disguises. MIB agents have to be regularly tested to make sure they're not a doppelganger.

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* K mentions he has regular CAT scans, which makes perfect sense since aliens can assume nearly perfect human disguises. MIB it's company policy that agents have to be have CAT scans every six months. With aliens that can perfectly mimic human appearances and influence someone's mind, not to mention the stresses of living a lonely, isolated life where you regularly tested deal with hostile alien lifeforms and occasionally have to make sure they're not save the Earth from annihilation, the psychological integrity of an agent is a doppelganger.
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** The first one, where they have to fill documents, is being able to think outside the box and perhaps even a willingness to break assumed rules. The candidates were sitting down on chairs that, while comfortable, provided no place to write down answers. James broke the assumed rule of "do not touch the table" and thought out of the box, grabbing the table and moving it so that he can write without having to twist himself.

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** The first one, where they have to fill documents, out a multiple choice exam, is being able to think outside the box and perhaps even a willingness to break assumed rules. The candidates were are sitting down on chairs that, while comfortable, provided no place to write down answers. James J broke the assumed rule of "do not touch the table" and thought out of the box, grabbing the table and moving it so that he can write without having to twist himself.himself.
***Not only that, the only way to take the test is to "make a scene". J makes an awful lot of noise dragging the table over to his chair. MIB agents can't be afraid of making a scene. It's literally why they have neuralizers: So they can do whatever is needed, regardless of the mess, then clean it up afterwards.



*** Another possibility, since James seemed confused by the "aliens" setup and fired a single blind shot, is that he ''didn't'' mean to hit the little girl, who was simply included as an "innocent" target you weren't supposed to hit. However, he redeemed himself by [[SeamlessSpontaneousLie coming up with a totally spontaneous plausible-sounding lie]], an essential skill of an [=MiB=].
*** The best part is, according to WordOfGod, J was actually correct about her being the dangerous one.
** This is capped off by Zed's line after the shooting test: "Congratulations, gentlemen. You are everything we've come to expect after years of government training." In this case, a willingness to take things at face-value and do what's expected of them, whereas Edwards is willing to question his assumptions. A nice, subtle little "up yours" from Zed at the soldier-boys.

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*** Another possibility, since James J seemed confused by the "aliens" setup and fired a single blind shot, is that he ''didn't'' mean to hit the little girl, who was simply included as an "innocent" target you weren't supposed to hit. However, he redeemed himself by [[SeamlessSpontaneousLie coming up with a totally spontaneous plausible-sounding lie]], an essential skill of an [=MiB=].
*** The best part is, according to WordOfGod, J was actually correct about her being the dangerous one.
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** This is capped off by Zed's line after the shooting test: "Congratulations, gentlemen. You are "Gentlemen, congratulations! You're everything we've come to expect after from years of government training.training. And now if you'll just follow me, we have one more test to administer: an eye exam." In this case, a willingness to take things at face-value and do what's expected of them, whereas Edwards J is willing to question his assumptions. A nice, subtle little "up yours" from Zed at the soldier-boys.



** It even extends to their attire. J wears a bright red jacket that makes him stand out from the other candidates who are in dull gray uniforms.



* Tying into the above fridge brilliance - of ''course'' Edwards would be the best candidate of the group for MIB. MIB isn't a military organization, they're basically a customs and police service, trained to resolve a situation quietly before combat is necessary. A soldier of any branch (besides someone who's in the Military Police) is just not suited to that sort of work. By the time the Air Force or Army Rangers (two other groups represented at the interview) are sent in, the time for a police officer's skillset has long since passed.

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* Tying into the above fridge brilliance - of ''course'' Edwards would be the best candidate of the group for MIB. MIB isn't a military organization, they're basically a customs and police service, trained to resolve a situation quietly before combat is necessary. A soldier of any branch (besides someone who's in the Military Police) military police) is just not suited to that sort of work. By the time the Air Force or Army Rangers (two other groups represented at the job interview) are sent in, the time for a police officer's skillset has long since passed.passed, unless they're someone who went to city police after time in the military (since they'd be retrained).



* In the first film, Frank says of the Arquillian galaxy, "Just because something is important doesn't mean it isn't very, very small." The McGuffin in both subsequent movies, the Light of Zartha and the Arcnet, end up being baubles also about the size of the jewel in which the galaxy is contained.

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* In the first film, Frank says of the Arquillian galaxy, "Just because something is important doesn't mean it isn't very, very small." The McGuffin MacGuffin in both subsequent movies, the Light of Zartha and the Arcnet, end up being baubles also about the size of the jewel in which the galaxy is contained.

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*** The best part is, according to WordOfGod, J was actually correct about her being the dangerous one.


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*** T is also explicitly stated to be a Marine Corps veteran who joined MiB to be a hero, exactly what they didn't really want.


* When J is being explained how the agency started he's shown several pictures of the first encounter while K says that there were 9 men there: and astronomer, 7 agents and "one dumb kid who got lost in the wrong back road". The pictures show K delivering flowers (specifically singled out by J) to the aliens while being ''the only person there in street clothes''. Later, when J catches K looking at a woman from a satellite, while J remarks "im guessing she never got her flowers?". There's the implication is that K was the dumb kid who stumbled upon the meeting by chance and was inducted into the agency after that, to become their top agent, probably never seeing his wife again.


* When J is being explained how the agency started he's shown several pictures of the first encounter while K says that there were 9 men there: and astronomer, 7 agents and "one dumb kid who got lost in the wrong back road". The pictures show K delivering flowers (specifically singled out by J) to the aliens while being '''the only person there in street clothes'''. Later, when J catches K looking at a woman from a satellite, while J remarks "im guessing she never got her flowers?". There's the implication is that K was the dumb kid who stumbled upon the meeting by chance and was inducted into the agency after that, to become their top agent, probably never seeing his wife again.

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* When J is being explained how the agency started he's shown several pictures of the first encounter while K says that there were 9 men there: and astronomer, 7 agents and "one dumb kid who got lost in the wrong back road". The pictures show K delivering flowers (specifically singled out by J) to the aliens while being '''the ''the only person there in street clothes'''.clothes''. Later, when J catches K looking at a woman from a satellite, while J remarks "im guessing she never got her flowers?". There's the implication is that K was the dumb kid who stumbled upon the meeting by chance and was inducted into the agency after that, to become their top agent, probably never seeing his wife again.

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* When J is being explained how the agency started he's shown several pictures of the first encounter while K says that there were 9 men there: and astronomer, 7 agents and "one dumb kid who got lost in the wrong back road". The pictures show K delivering flowers (specifically singled out by J) to the aliens while being '''the only person there in street clothes'''. Later, when J catches K looking at a woman from a satellite, while J remarks "im guessing she never got her flowers?". There's the implication is that K was the dumb kid who stumbled upon the meeting by chance and was inducted into the agency after that, to become their top agent, probably never seeing his wife again.

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*** Then again, the MIB seem to be able to adjust how much of the memories they want to wipe out. I mean, Laurel Weaver (Linda Fiorentino's character) is implied to be neuralyzed on a semi-regular basis due to her continuously encountering alien corpses in the morgue, yet every time she's neuralyzed, she'll always be back to being a coroner no matter what.



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* K mentions he has regular CAT scans, which makes perfect sense since aliens can assume nearly perfect human disguises. MIB agents have to be regularly tested to make sure they're not a doppelganger.



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** "Size doesn't matter" is a recurring theme in the first film. Heck, the very first scene follows a dragonfly as it buzzes along, until finally it's squished. And then there's the Noisy Cricket, the bouncy ball that caused the 1977 blackout, K defeating the bug by being eaten by it, etc.

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* ''Fridge/MenInBlackTheSeries''


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** The third movie makes this worse, since it's implied that chronic or extended exposure to the neuralyzer ("I might have cooked him too long") can result in very severe brain damage. Maybe J wasn't so far off with the "brain cancer" comment...



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* On a meta level, the casting for J and K is perfect; who better to play the anonymous MiB agents than a Mr. Smith and a Mr. Jones?

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* On a meta level, the casting for J and K is perfect; who better to play the anonymous MiB [=MiB=] agents than a Mr. Smith and a Mr. Jones?



*** Another possibility, since James seemed confused by the "aliens" setup and fired a single blind shot, is that he ''didn't'' mean to hit the little girl, who was simply included as an "innocent" target you weren't supposed to hit. However, he redeemed himself by [[SeamlessSpontaneousLie coming up with a totally spontaneous plausible-sounding lie]], an essential skill of an MiB.

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*** Another possibility, since James seemed confused by the "aliens" setup and fired a single blind shot, is that he ''didn't'' mean to hit the little girl, who was simply included as an "innocent" target you weren't supposed to hit. However, he redeemed himself by [[SeamlessSpontaneousLie coming up with a totally spontaneous plausible-sounding lie]], an essential skill of an MiB.[=MiB=].


* In the third movie, the scene about J's dad at Wu's restaurant may have been PlayedForLaughs or something else. It becomes harsher when [[spoiler:we find out the identity of J's father and his fate. It also manages to kind of explain K's role as a father figure to J.]]
* In the first two films, the majority of the aliens were done via CG with some practical tossed in. In the third film during the 1969 scenes, most of the aliens are done via practical makeup/animatronic effects via Rick Baker, to give them a more "retro" feel similar to how they would have looked during that era.
* In the third film, Jay points out that the rocket packs, even those designed by secret agencies that may possibly have hints of extraterrestrial technology powering them, were AwesomeButImpractical and there were plenty of reasons why they don't use them in the modern day. He then mentions the infamous red button feature that comes standard on all MIB vehicles by then, which weren't around yet. The scientists and technicians overhearing him at this point in time, might've been what ''prompted the development of the hidden car rocket systems activated by the red button in the first place.''
* In the first film, Jay mentions having suspected that his 3rd grade teacher was an alien from Venus, to which Kay confirms was from Jupiter, or rather, one of its moons. How Kay could possibly know about Jay's childhood becomes more understandable after the third film, in which Kay sees himself as a father figure [[spoiler:after accidentally getting Jay's father killed in 1969]]. Plus, it shows that Kay always thought Jay had the potential to become an MIB agent.



* When J neuralyses the video shop owner and tells him to move out of his mom's house, the guy picks up a shovel. Funny, maybe, but just thinking about it, was that guy planning to kill his mother?
** J told him and his girlfriend to go to Cambodia, but he didn't specify "how". [[DiggingToChina The video shop owner may have started digging to Cambodia]], probably as a neuralizer side-effect.
* In the third movie, it's stated that J's memory wasn't changed by Boris's time changing because he was present in the event. [[spoiler: We later discover that J was present AS A CHILD, and son of the colonel overseeing Apollo launching. Which means that in the Boris Wins timeline, the young child probably witnessed K's death, and likely his father's death as well(And maybe seen [[BodyHorror Boris' real form]]), before getting mind-wiped by the MIB clean-up crew. And the mind-wipe as a child would explain why J wouldn't remember the event in ANY alternative timelines the time travel change created, but would still be aware of it.]]

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