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* A bit of Rem brilliance mixed with FridgeHorror. When Logan and Jess find him, he's been slaving away maintaining servant bots for a pleasure palace where all the humans they were designed to serve are long dead. Rem has a lot more sentience than the robots he's maintaining (so no pleasant conversation or AI society), but he's still ThreeLawsCompliant. No humans were around to protect, or give orders, and he couldn't self-destruct or allow himself to decay into non-functionality due to Law #3. ''[[AndIMustScream It's centuries of boredom without the means to escape it]]. Then along comes two humans who admit to being fugitives. They seem to be pleasant enough, but they have a little trouble with the "orders" part. So, Rem essentially ''tricked'' them into Law #2 by giving an order (by inviting him to join them). If they find their Sanctuary, then he's surrounded by humans and happy to be back at work. If they run into trouble, then Laws #1 and #3 would kick in and permanent nonfuctionality would be preferable to more centuries of boredom.

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* A bit of Rem brilliance mixed with FridgeHorror. When Logan and Jess find him, he's been slaving away maintaining servant bots for a pleasure palace where all the humans they were designed to serve are long dead. Rem has a lot more sentience than the robots he's maintaining (so no pleasant conversation or AI society), but he's still ThreeLawsCompliant. No humans were around to protect, or give orders, and he couldn't self-destruct or allow himself to decay into non-functionality due to Law #3. ''[[AndIMustScream It's centuries of boredom without the means to escape it]]. '' Then along comes two humans who admit to being fugitives. They seem to be pleasant enough, but they have a little trouble with the "orders" part. So, Rem essentially ''tricked'' them into Law #2 by giving an order (by inviting him to join them). If they find their Sanctuary, then he's surrounded by humans and happy to be back at work. If they run into trouble, then Laws #1 and #3 would kick in and permanent nonfuctionality non-functionality would be preferable to more centuries of boredom.

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* A bit of Rem brilliance mixed with FridgeHorror. When Logan and Jess find him, he's been slaving away maintaining servant bots for a pleasure palace where all the humans they were designed to serve are long dead. Rem has a lot more sentience than the robots he's maintaining (so no pleasant conversation or AI society), but he's still ThreeLawsCompliant. No humans were around to protect, or give orders, and he couldn't self-destruct or allow himself to decay into non-functionality due to Law #3. ''[[AndIMustScream It's centuries of boredom without the means to escape it]]. Then along comes two humans who admit to being fugitives. They seem to be pleasant enough, but they have a little trouble with the "orders" part. So, Rem essentially ''tricked'' them into Law #2 by giving an order (by inviting him to join them). If they find their Sanctuary, then he's surrounded by humans and happy to be back at work. If they run into trouble, then Laws #1 and #3 would kick in and permanent nonfuctionality would be preferable to more centuries of boredom.


* The series was ''far'' TamerAndChaster than the books or even the film, downgrading Logan and Jess to a happy ShipTease. (Rem being a de facto chaperone couldn't hurt, either) The brilliance is that, given the oversexed setting (limited to GettingCrapPastTheRadar in the show), SexIsLove would likely be ''inverted'', because sex with a stranger is normal - you'd never have to see or care about them again - but if you actually cared about the person, you'd hold off because you value them.

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* The series was ''far'' TamerAndChaster than the books or even the film, downgrading Logan and Jess to a happy ShipTease. (Rem being a de facto chaperone couldn't hurt, either) The brilliance is that, given the oversexed setting (limited to GettingCrapPastTheRadar in the show), SexIsLove SexEqualsLove would likely be ''inverted'', because sex with a stranger is normal - you'd never have to see or care about them again - but if you actually cared about the person, [[LetsWaitAwhile you'd hold off because you value them. them.]]


*** And of course there's the not-insigificant possibility that some other humans are still out there and can teach them how to survive. After all, that old man had to come from somewhere...

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*** And of course there's the not-insigificant not-insignificant possibility that some other humans are still out there and can teach them how to survive. After all, that old man had to come from somewhere...


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* The series was ''far'' TamerAndChaster than the books or even the film, downgrading Logan and Jess to a happy ShipTease. (Rem being a de facto chaperone couldn't hurt, either) The brilliance is that, given the oversexed setting (limited to GettingCrapPastTheRadar in the show), SexIsLove would likely be ''inverted'', because sex with a stranger is normal - you'd never have to see or care about them again - but if you actually cared about the person, you'd hold off because you value them.


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* Why would a force of practical assassins need a weapon with a stun setting? A Sandman's job is to kill Runners so why would they ever need to NOT shoot to kill?
** FridgeBrilliance: Considering Jessica's character demonstrates there is an ''organized'' Runner's movement, a stun setting would be useful if you'd like to interrogate someone or use them as bait to catch their fellow subversives. It's also a nod to the books where a Sandman's pistol had several settings, including a "tangler" for live capture. Sandman were not just for killing Runners - they were the society's law enforcement. Unless you were on Last Day and trying to run, they were no more or less a threat than an average beat cop.

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* In a meta sense, the timing of the movie (1976) and the age-upgrade from 21 to 30 made it about the early 'mid-life crisis' of the Baby Boomers. It was cathartic for the generation that said 'Don't trust anyone over 30' in the year their oldest members turned 30. It ends up subverting the phrase, by saying 'being over 30 is fine.'



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*** And of course there's the not-insigificant possibility that some other humans are still out there and can teach them how to survive. After all, that old man had to come from somewhere...



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*** There is also the fact that they all can read, and books have survived whatever catastrophe wiped out the previous civilization, so they can learn from them too.

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* Something I found very amusing: the average life expectancy was probably about 20, because 21's the absolute maximum and there would have been significant deaths from failing infrastructure. This means that under the UN's current criteria, the Human Development Index of this society is ''negative''.


** On a more optimistic note, the old man must have some sort of survival skills and tools to have lived outside for that long though. People can learn from him. Not a lot of hope but still quite some hope.

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** On a more optimistic note, the old man must have some sort of survival skills and tools to have lived outside for that long though.though (quite healthily too, for someone looking like in their 60s). People can learn from him. Not a lot of hope but still quite some hope.



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** On a more optimistic note, the old man must have some sort of survival skills and tools to have lived outside for that long though. People can learn from him. Not a lot of hope but still quite some hope.


** Stealthily [[AscendedFridgeHorror acknowledged]]: the credits imply their doom by running blended shots of the doomed people flying over the Carousel over shots of the burned-out remains of the city. At least the people Kirk rescued apparently still had their cities and machinery intact...

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** Stealthily [[AscendedFridgeHorror acknowledged]]: the credits imply their doom by running blended shots of the doomed people flying over the Carousel over shots of the burned-out remains of the city. At least the people Kirk rescued apparently still had their cities and machinery intact...intact and a little Federation aid.


* At the end of ''Film/LogansRun'', [[spoiler:the evil computer is blown up and all the people set '''free!''' Everyone goes outdoors and sees the sky and the trees. This is an entire population that has been given free food, water, shelter, heat, and clothes for their entire lives. Now they're in the wilderness with no knowledge, tools, or even clothing heavier than lingerie. They're all going to die.]] This probably also happened every time [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]] saved a population from a controlling computer.

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* At the end of ''Film/LogansRun'', [[spoiler:the evil computer is blown up and all the people set '''free!''' Everyone goes outdoors and sees the sky and the trees. This is an entire population that has been given free food, water, shelter, heat, and clothes for their entire lives. Now they're in the wilderness with no knowledge, tools, or even clothing heavier than lingerie. [[NoEndorHolocaust They're all going to die.]] ]]]] This probably also happened every time [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]] saved a population from a controlling computer.


* At the end of ''LogansRun'', [[spoiler: the evil computer is blown up and all the people set '''free!''' Everyone goes outdoors and sees the sky and the trees. This is an entire population that has been given free food, water, shelter, heat, and clothes for their entire lives. Now they're in the wilderness with no knowledge, tools, or even clothing heavier than lingerie. They're all going to die.]] This probably also happened every time [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]] saved a population from a controlling computer.

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* At the end of ''LogansRun'', [[spoiler: the ''Film/LogansRun'', [[spoiler:the evil computer is blown up and all the people set '''free!''' Everyone goes outdoors and sees the sky and the trees. This is an entire population that has been given free food, water, shelter, heat, and clothes for their entire lives. Now they're in the wilderness with no knowledge, tools, or even clothing heavier than lingerie. They're all going to die.]] This probably also happened every time [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]] saved a population from a controlling computer.



* In the movie, Logan's destruction of a support column and overload of the MasterComputer shouldn't have cause that kind of cascade failure through the whole city. However, remember that no one likely knew anything about ''maintaining'' the city aside from cosmetic appearance.

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* In the movie, Logan's destruction of a support column and overload of the MasterComputer shouldn't have cause that kind of cascade failure through the whole city. However, remember that no one likely knew anything about ''maintaining'' the city aside from cosmetic appearance.appearance.
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** Stealthily [[AscendedFridgeHorror acknowledged]]: the credits imply their doom by running blended shots of the doomed people flying over the Carousel over shots of the burned-out remains of the city. At least the people Kirk rescued apparently still had their cities and machinery intact...

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** Stealthily [[AscendedFridgeHorror acknowledged]]: the credits imply their doom by running blended shots of the doomed people flying over the Carousel over shots of the burned-out remains of the city. At least the people Kirk rescued apparently still had their cities and machinery intact...intact...
** The books ran a similar scenario; while there was certainly a social collapse and reversion to barbarism (even more so), humanity muddled through.

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* In the movie, Logan's destruction of a support column and overload of the MasterComputer shouldn't have cause that kind of cascade failure through the whole city. However, remember that no one likely knew anything about ''maintaining'' the city aside from cosmetic appearance.

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