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* Knowing that Harold spies on Ward through cameras in his office ceiling, you realize...Harold watched his son become a drug addict and did nothing about it, and probably enjoyed it because the weaker Ward was, the easier it would be for Harold to manipulate him.

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* Knowing that Harold spies on Ward through cameras in his office ceiling, you realize...Harold watched his son become a drug addict and did nothing about it, and probably enjoyed it because the weaker Ward was, the easier it would be for Harold to manipulate him.him.
* Danny's decision to sell that life-saving medicine at-cost wasn't as StupidGood as the board members framed it. RealLife drug companies excuse charging exorbitant prices for their drugs to finance R&D on newer drugs, as the board members claim, but this is nearly always a lie, as the profits are instead used to buy back stocks to make them richer. If Danny had swallowed their lies, they'd have screwed over other people who needed medicine like that in the future.


* Knowing that Harold spies on Ward through cameras in his office ceiling, you realize...Harold watched his son become a drug addict and did nothing about it, and probably enjoyed it because the weaker Ward was, the easier it would be for Harold to manipulate him.
* In order to steal Danny's powers, Davos had to resort to some pretty dark magic: profaning the body of a dead Iron Fist then kidnapping and torturing a living one. With that in mind, we see Danny at the end of the season with a new Fist. Did he perform that same ritual?

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* Knowing that Harold spies on Ward through cameras in his office ceiling, you realize...Harold watched his son become a drug addict and did nothing about it, and probably enjoyed it because the weaker Ward was, the easier it would be for Harold to manipulate him.
* In order to steal Danny's powers, Davos had to resort to some pretty dark magic: profaning the body of a dead Iron Fist then kidnapping and torturing a living one. With that in mind, we see Danny at the end of the season with a new Fist. Did he perform that same ritual?
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* Ward saves Harold in his contacts list as "Frank N. Stein," and it's quite fitting when you consider that Ward sees himself as Frankenstein's monster.
** All but made explicit when Harold tells Ward that he's 'his creation'. [[spoiler:And much like the original Frankenstein and his creation, Ward eventually turns against Harold.]]

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* Ward saves Harold in his contacts list as "Frank N. Stein," and it's quite fitting when you consider that Ward sees himself as Frankenstein's monster. \n** All but made explicit when Harold tells Ward that he's 'his creation'. [[spoiler:And much like the original Frankenstein and his creation, Ward eventually turns against Harold.]]


* Harold can only die and don't come back if they cut his head. If [[spoiler:he was cremated]], his head was not cut. Does this mean that he is alive... [[spoiler:as alive and crazy ''[[AndIMustScream ashes]]'']]?
** The head doesn't have to be specifically cut off. Destroying it is equally effective. To KillItWithFire, is even more so.


* When Danny returns to New York, he acts very much like a child would in certain situations and does not understand the way society works. This makes sense, given how he was A KID when he left, and has been gone for more than half of his life.
** In fact one could say Danny’s character arc over the course of this series, ''Series/TheDefenders2017'',and possibly even season 2 of his series is more or less “learning to grow up”. Season 1 of ''Iron Fist'' is Danny learning the harsh realities of adulthood (betrayal, lies, people not being who you thought they were), ''Defenders'' is Danny taking up responsibility (taking Matt’s place as the Guardian of Hell’s Kitchen) and Season 2 of Iron Fist will likly continue with this arc.

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* When Danny returns to New York, he acts very much like a child would in certain situations and does not understand the way society works. This makes sense, given how he was A KID a kid when he left, and has been gone for more than half of his life.
** In fact one could say Danny’s character arc over
life. His CharacterDevelopment throughout the course of this series, ''Series/TheDefenders2017'',and possibly even season 2 of his series is more or less “learning to grow up”. Season 1 of ''Iron Fist'' is Danny learning the harsh realities of adulthood (betrayal, lies, people not being who you thought they were), ''Defenders'' is Danny taking up responsibility (taking Matt’s place as the Guardian of Hell’s Kitchen) and Season 2 of Iron Fist will likly continue in line with this arc.someone maturing.



* Foreshadowing at its finest, but Coleen's cage match moniker "Daughter of the Dragon" becomes this in the season 2 finale [[spoiler:when she gains the Iron Fist, and it is revealed she is a descendant of the first female Iron Fist, thanks to her family crest having the symbol of Shao-Lou on the reverse of it.]]

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* Foreshadowing at its finest, but Coleen's cage match moniker "Daughter of the Dragon" becomes this in the season 2 finale [[spoiler:when when she gains the Iron Fist, and it is revealed she is a descendant of the first female Iron Fist, thanks to her family crest having the symbol of Shao-Lou on the reverse of it.]]it.



* When [[spoiler:Harold]] is being cremated, one can only hope it had been done quickly enough and he didn't resurrect while in the coffin and get burned alive. [[AssholeVictim Then again. . . do we care?]]
* The Hand forbade [[spoiler: Harold]] from seeing his daughter. [[spoiler: This is likely far more merciful than it seems. The revival makes people destroy what they love. The Hand might very well be doing this out of mercy to prevent him from killing his daughter. It also explains why Ward was made the SecretKeeper instead of Joy.]]

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* When [[spoiler:Harold]] Harold is being cremated, one can only hope it had been done quickly enough and he didn't resurrect while in the coffin and get burned alive. [[AssholeVictim Then again. . . do we care?]]
* The Hand forbade [[spoiler: Harold]] Harold from seeing his daughter. [[spoiler: This is likely far more merciful than it seems. The revival makes people destroy what they love. The Hand might very well be doing this out of mercy to prevent him from killing his daughter. It also explains why Ward was made the SecretKeeper instead of Joy.]]


* Knowing that Harold spies on Ward through cameras in his office ceiling, you realize...Harold watched his son become a drug addict and did nothing about it, and probably enjoyed it because the weaker Ward was, the easier it would be for Harold to manipulate him.

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* Knowing that Harold spies on Ward through cameras in his office ceiling, you realize...Harold watched his son become a drug addict and did nothing about it, and probably enjoyed it because the weaker Ward was, the easier it would be for Harold to manipulate him.him.
* In order to steal Danny's powers, Davos had to resort to some pretty dark magic: profaning the body of a dead Iron Fist then kidnapping and torturing a living one. With that in mind, we see Danny at the end of the season with a new Fist. Did he perform that same ritual?

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* Foreshadowing at its finest, but Coleen's cage match moniker "Daughter of the Dragon" becomes this in the season 2 finale [[spoiler:when she gains the Iron Fist, and it is revealed she is a descendant of the first female Iron Fist, thanks to her family crest having the symbol of Shao-Lou on the reverse of it.]]

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* Creator/{{Alice Eve}}'s heterochromia might not have gotten her a role on this show, but it sure is perfect for the character.


** In fact one could say Danny’s character arc over the course of this series,''Series/TheDefenders2017'',and possibly even season 2 of his series is more or less “learning to grow up”. Season 1 of ''Iron Fist'' is Danny learning the harsh realities of adulthood (betrayal, lies, people not being who you thought they were), ''Defenders'' is Danny taking up responsibility (taking Matt’s place as the Guardian of Hell’s Kitchen) and Season 2 of Iron Fist will likly continue with this arc.

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** In fact one could say Danny’s character arc over the course of this series,''Series/TheDefenders2017'',and series, ''Series/TheDefenders2017'',and possibly even season 2 of his series is more or less “learning to grow up”. Season 1 of ''Iron Fist'' is Danny learning the harsh realities of adulthood (betrayal, lies, people not being who you thought they were), ''Defenders'' is Danny taking up responsibility (taking Matt’s place as the Guardian of Hell’s Kitchen) and Season 2 of Iron Fist will likly continue with this arc.

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** In fact one could say Danny’s character arc over the course of this series,''Series/TheDefenders2017'',and possibly even season 2 of his series is more or less “learning to grow up”. Season 1 of ''Iron Fist'' is Danny learning the harsh realities of adulthood (betrayal, lies, people not being who you thought they were), ''Defenders'' is Danny taking up responsibility (taking Matt’s place as the Guardian of Hell’s Kitchen) and Season 2 of Iron Fist will likly continue with this arc.


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* It's mentioned that [[Creator/DeborahAnnWoll Karen]] [[HotScoop Page]] is the reporter that leaked Danny's decision to shut down the chemical plant before he notified the board about it. This would be very fitting for Karen, since from her perspective, those cancer patients are no different from herself and everyone else that Wilson Fisk victimized. And of course she'd like Danny's decision because she sees him as just like herself and Matt: someone who is compassionate to those who have been wronged by an injustice. On top of that, Matt Murdock is her boyfriend, and if we're to resume she and Matt resumed dating after he revealed his secret to her, she probably knows a bit about the car accident that gave him his abilities and Rand Enterprises being the owner of the truck involved.

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* It's mentioned that [[Creator/DeborahAnnWoll Karen]] [[HotScoop Karen Page]] is the reporter that leaked Danny's decision to shut down the chemical plant before he notified the board about it. This would be very fitting for Karen, since from her perspective, those cancer patients are no different from herself and everyone else that Wilson Fisk victimized. And of course she'd like Danny's decision because she sees him as just like herself and Matt: someone who is compassionate to those who have been wronged by an injustice. On top of that, Matt Murdock is her boyfriend, and if we're to resume she and Matt resumed dating after he revealed his secret to her, she probably knows a bit about the car accident that gave him his abilities and Rand Enterprises being the owner of the truck involved.


* At first, the Meachums appear to be a case of PlayingGertrude, since there's only a 17 year age gap between David Wenham (Harold) and Tom Pelphrey (Ward). But Harold hasn't aged a day in thirteen years since the Hand resurrected him. Meaning the trope is actually getting averted.

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* At first, the Meachums appear to be a case of PlayingGertrude, since there's only a 17 year age gap between David Wenham Creator/DavidWenham (Harold) and Tom Pelphrey Creator/TomPelphrey (Ward). But Harold hasn't aged a day in thirteen years since the Hand resurrected him. Meaning the trope is actually getting averted.


* Ditto for Danny's attitude during the series. Yes, he often acts immature and is ''very'' naive, however, in the comics themselves, Iron Fist also doesn't have a single clue about how to act in the modern (or rather, 70's at the time) society he arrived to. He did things like buy yachts on a whim, ask if he was using "hip" expressions appropriately and ultimately went into work for Heroes for Hire so he could learn the value of money, away from his fortune.
* Why does Danny let his emotions control him, namely his anger? It's goes far beyond growing up away from modern society, however if you read the old comics and think about it, it will suddenly hit you: Comic book Danny was a good, well-meaning kid, however, even as a child he is consumed by his hatred and great thirst for vengeance... on Harold Meachum, the man who murdered his parents. See, in the comics, Harold was present during the Rand's fateful trip and actively murdered Wendell Rand and left Danny and his mom for dead. Danny knew the entire time just who was responsible for the death of his family, and channeled his all of his rage against Meachum for years. However, in the show, Meachum is not present during the trip nor does he openly kill the Rands, resulting in Danny growing up with that same anger and frustration but without having someone to blame for it, therefore his anger is manifested quite differently and openly, first directed towards the Hand, then Gao specifically, and ultimately Harold Meachum, a man he had seen his whole life as a second, loving father figure. Danny doesn't get years to process his anger like in the comics, instead he's thrown into a rollercoast of emotions and betrayals from almost everyone he holds dear (Harold, Ward and Joy Meachum at different points, Colleen who deceived him and even his best friend Davos by the end of the show). No wonder Danny doesn't take it too well when Defenders comes along and all of his new friends decide to gang up on him, inadvertently putting his life in greater risk.

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* Ditto for Danny's attitude during the series. Yes, he often acts immature and is ''very'' naive, however, in the comics themselves, Iron Fist Danny also doesn't have a single clue about how to act in the modern (or rather, 70's at the time) society he arrived to. He did things like buy yachts on a whim, ask if he was using "hip" expressions appropriately and ultimately went into work for Heroes for Hire so he could learn the value of money, away from his fortune.
* Why does Danny let his emotions control him, namely his anger? It's goes far beyond growing up away from modern society, however if you read the old comics and think about it, it will suddenly hit you: Comic book Danny was a good, well-meaning kid, however, even as a child he is consumed by his hatred and great thirst for vengeance... on Harold Meachum, the man who murdered his parents. See, in In the comics, Harold was present during the Rand's fateful trip and actively murdered Wendell Rand and left Danny and his mom for dead. Danny knew the entire time just who was responsible for the death of his family, and channeled his all of his rage against Meachum Harold for years. However, in the show, Meachum Harold is not present during the trip nor does he openly kill the Rands, resulting in Danny growing up with that same anger and frustration but without having someone to blame for it, therefore his anger is manifested quite differently and openly, openly. It's first directed towards the Hand, then Bakuto and Madame Gao specifically, and ultimately Harold Meachum, only ''then'' on Harold, a man he had seen his whole life as a second, loving father figure. Danny doesn't get years to process his anger like in the comics, instead he's thrown into a rollercoast rollercoaster of emotions and betrayals from almost everyone he holds dear (Harold, Ward and Joy Meachum at different points, Colleen who deceived him and even his best friend Davos by the end of the show). No wonder Danny doesn't take it too well in ''The Defenders'' when Defenders comes along Matt, Jessica and all of his new friends Luke decide to gang up on him, inadvertently putting his life in greater risk.

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* Some detractors of the show called attention to the fact that Danny doesn't use the iron fist all that much, despite Iron Fist being his title and the title of the show itself, however for people who actually read the classic Iron Fist comics, the reason is evident: When Iron Fist debuted as a hero, his control over his chi wasn't completely masterful, with almost each issue he was learning new things about his chi powers. In the beginning, he only used his Iron Fist punch as a finishing blow, last-resort kind trump card, which would reliably defeat his enemies, but would leave him severely drained afterwards. As time went on, Danny learned how to use his chi for curing (as he does in the series) or to use it without exhausting himself, but it took him ''decades'' in real world time to become the Iron Fist we have today, capable of destroying explosive trains and felling Helicarriers with a single punch.
* Ditto for Danny's attitude during the series. Yes, he often acts immature and is ''very'' naive, however, in the comics themselves, Iron Fist also doesn't have a single clue about how to act in the modern (or rather, 70's at the time) society he arrived to. He did things like buy yachts on a whim, ask if he was using "hip" expressions appropriately and ultimately went into work for Heroes for Hire so he could learn the value of money, away from his fortune.
* Why does Danny let his emotions control him, namely his anger? It's goes far beyond growing up away from modern society, however if you read the old comics and think about it, it will suddenly hit you: Comic book Danny was a good, well-meaning kid, however, even as a child he is consumed by his hatred and great thirst for vengeance... on Harold Meachum, the man who murdered his parents. See, in the comics, Harold was present during the Rand's fateful trip and actively murdered Wendell Rand and left Danny and his mom for dead. Danny knew the entire time just who was responsible for the death of his family, and channeled his all of his rage against Meachum for years. However, in the show, Meachum is not present during the trip nor does he openly kill the Rands, resulting in Danny growing up with that same anger and frustration but without having someone to blame for it, therefore his anger is manifested quite differently and openly, first directed towards the Hand, then Gao specifically, and ultimately Harold Meachum, a man he had seen his whole life as a second, loving father figure. Danny doesn't get years to process his anger like in the comics, instead he's thrown into a rollercoast of emotions and betrayals from almost everyone he holds dear (Harold, Ward and Joy Meachum at different points, Colleen who deceived him and even his best friend Davos by the end of the show). No wonder Danny doesn't take it too well when Defenders comes along and all of his new friends decide to gang up on him, inadvertently putting his life in greater risk.

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