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* Sophie changes her dress (It changes from green to blue in the film) the day after she was cursed. How did Sophie's blue dress fit her as a plump old woman when it was the green one she was cursed in?

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* Sophie changes her dress (It changes from green to blue green, muted purple and finally blue, modified by Howl, in the film) the day after she was cursed. How did Sophie's blue dress fit her as a plump old woman when it was the green one she was cursed in?

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* Sophie changes her dress (It changes from green to blue in the film) the day after she was cursed. How did Sophie's blue dress fit her as a plump old woman when it was the green one she was cursed in?

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* Sophie changes her dress (It changes from green to blue in the film) the day after she was cursed. How did Sophie's blue dress fit her as a plump old woman when it was the green one she was cursed in?in?
** She may have borrowed one of her mother's old dresses (presumably her birth mother, since Honey is her stepmom and thin), or simply tailored an already-existing dress the night before (we know she has some skill in that area given that she designs and makes hats). It could also be a subtle joke about how Sophie's fashion was ''already'' more appropriate for an old woman than a younger one--she may have had the dress lying around because she didn't like more fashionable outfits.
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* In the book, when a duelist comes to ask for something to give him an equal chance in a duel, Sophie tells the powder she gives him that it will "make it a fair fight". [[spoiler: Since she can talk life into things, it probably really did make it a fair fight!]]

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* In the book, when a duelist comes to ask for something to give him an equal chance in a duel, Sophie tells the powder she gives him that it will "make it a fair fight". [[spoiler: Since We later learn that the pepper she can talk life into things, it probably really did make it gave him made his opponent sneeze, allowing him to be disarmed. His opponent then sued him, moving the fight to a fair fight!]] (hopefully much fairer) court of law.
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* Sophie changes her dress (It changes from green to blue in the film) the day after she was cursed. How did Sophie's blue dress fit her as a plump old woman when it was the green one she was cursed in?
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* In the book, Sophie has two younger sisters, Lettie and Martha. In the movie there's only Lettie, but a girl named Martha is mentioned at the beginning of the movie. While Sophie is watching Howl's castle from her window, the shop girls can be heard gossiping about a girl named Martha who had her heart "torn out" by Howl. Later, after Sophie becomes cursed and goes out into the Wastes, the man warning her of the danger says to his wife that she "says she's looking for her youngest sister".

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* In the book, Sophie has two younger sisters, Lettie and Martha. In the movie movie, there's only Lettie, but a girl named Martha is mentioned at the beginning of the movie. While Sophie is watching Howl's castle from her window, the shop girls can be heard gossiping about a girl named Martha who had her heart "torn out" by Howl. Later, after Sophie becomes cursed and goes out into the Wastes, the man warning her of the danger says to his wife that she "says she's looking for her youngest sister".



* Why is the house of a wizard as vain as Howl so messy and dirty? Well, for one, he is away more often than not, and he gets back dead tired most of the time so obviously he wouldn't be bothered even if it hurts his vanity. And on the first morning, Markl/Michael tells Sophie the fire is off limits when Howl is away since Calcifer only obeys Howl. Even a task as simple as washing the dishes or washing up needs hot water and then some.
* When the king walks in on [[spoiler: Suliman and Howl, the latter being in disguise as the king, he's unfazed, then impressed that this was "the best double she's made so far!" As he seems to be deeply involved in the war efforts, it would make sense that Suliman would be responsible for making endless body doubles for the king, whose lives would be at risk of assasination.]] Impressive, then that Howl [[spoiler:apparently made the best double yet! It helps that he was her best student.]]
* In the book, Sophie makes very much of the fact that she is the eldest, and though Martha is only her half-sister (Fanny being mother to Martha and stepmother to Sophie and Lettie), there are three children in the family- therefore, according to the rule about youngest children, Sophie is doomed to spectacular failures and Martha is fated to succeed and be powerful. It turns out that she is WrongGenreSavvy, but the hints about that start practically at page one: According to these rules, you would expect Fanny to be terrible to Lettie and Sophie and to dote on Martha, but she does her best to do right by them, even though she never considers what any of the girls (Martha included) really wants. You would also expect the sistery to bully each other but they don't do that either. Clearly if these "basic" rules don't hold, then any child can find their fortune, regardless of birth order- and indeed at the end they do.

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* Why is the house of a wizard as vain as Howl so messy and dirty? Well, for one, he is away more often than not, and he gets back dead tired most of the time time, so obviously he wouldn't be bothered even if it hurts his vanity. And on the first morning, Markl/Michael tells Sophie the fire is off limits when Howl is away since Calcifer only obeys Howl. Even a task as simple as washing the dishes or washing up needs hot water and then some.
* When the king walks in on [[spoiler: Suliman and Howl, the latter being in disguise as the king, he's unfazed, then impressed that this was "the best double she's made so far!" As he seems to be deeply involved in the war efforts, it would make sense that Suliman would be responsible for making endless body doubles for the king, whose lives would be at risk of assasination.assassination.]] Impressive, then that Howl [[spoiler:apparently made the best double yet! It helps that he was her best student.]]
* In the book, Sophie makes very much of the fact that she is the eldest, and though Martha is only her half-sister (Fanny being mother to Martha and stepmother to Sophie and Lettie), there are three children in the family- family -- therefore, according to the rule about youngest children, Sophie is doomed to spectacular failures and Martha is fated to succeed and be powerful. It turns out that she is WrongGenreSavvy, but the hints about that start practically at page one: According to these rules, you would expect Fanny to be terrible to Lettie and Sophie and to dote on Martha, but she does her best to do right by them, even though she never considers what any of the girls (Martha included) really wants. You would also expect the sistery sisters to bully each other other, but they don't do that that, either. Clearly Clearly, if these "basic" rules don't hold, then any child can find their fortune, regardless of birth order- order -- and indeed indeed, at the end end, they do.



* TrueLovesKiss breaks [[spoiler:Turnip Head's]] spell. But, as the Witch of the Waste notes, their lover loves another. [[spoiler:Factoring in a bit of LoopholeAbuse, it apparently doesn't have to be ''her'' true love, just ''his.'']]

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* TrueLovesKiss breaks [[spoiler:Turnip Head's]] spell. But, as the Witch of the Waste notes, their his lover loves another. [[spoiler:Factoring in a bit of LoopholeAbuse, it apparently doesn't have to be ''her'' true love, just ''his.'']]
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* As seen from his room, Howl seems to have a love for shiny, overly-adorned trinkets. [[spoiler: Given that his "monster form" is that of a bird, [[ThievingMagpie is that really surprising?]]]]
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* Sophie's constantly afraid that Howl is going to kick her out of the castle. Howl, on the other hand, asks few questions and demands little of her. Why would he, [[spoiler: when he knows who she is from her meddling with time?]]
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* TrueLovesKiss breaks [[spoiler:Turnip Head's]] spell. But, as the Witch of the Waste notes, their lover loves another. [[spoiler:Factoring in a bit of LoopholeAbuse, it apparently doesn't have to be ''her'' true love, just ''his.'']]
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* In the book, Sophie makes very much of the fact that she is the eldest, and though Martha is only her half-sister (Fanny being mother to Martha and stepmother to Sophie and Lettie), there are three children in the family- therefore, according to the rule about youngest children, Sophie is doomed to spectacular failures and Martha is fated to succeed and be powerful. It turns out that she is WrongGenreSavvy, but the hints about that start practically at page one: According to these rules, you would expect Fanny to be terrible to Lettie and Sophie and to dote on Martha, but she does her best to do right by them, even though she never considers what any of the girls (Martha included) really wants. You would also expect the sistery to bully each other but they don't do that either. Clearly if these "basic" rules don't hold, then any child can find their fortune, regardless of birth order- and indeed at the end they do.
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*When the king walks in on [[spoiler: Suliman and Howl, the latter being in disguise as the king, he's unfazed, then impressed that this was "the best double she's made so far!" As he seems to be deeply involved in the war efforts, it would make sense that Suliman would be responsible for making endless body doubles for the king, whose lives would be at risk of assasination.]] Impressive, then that Howl [[spoiler:apparently made the best double yet! It helps that he was her best student.]]
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* Why is the house of a wizard as vain as Howl so messy and dirty? Well, for one, he is away more often than not, and he gets back dead tired most of the time so obviously he wouldn't be bothered even if it hurts his vanity. And on the first morning, Markl/Michael tells Sophie the fire is off limits when Howl is away since Calcifer only obeys Howl. Even a task as simple as washing the dishes or washing up needs hot water and then some.
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---> '''Howl''': I've been looking everywhere for you.

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* * In the book, when a duelist comes to ask for something to give him an equal chance in a duel, Sophie tells the powder she gives him that it will "make it a fair fight". [[spoiler: Since she can talk life into things, it probably really did make it a fair fight!]]

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* * In the book, when a duelist comes to ask for something to give him an equal chance in a duel, Sophie tells the powder she gives him that it will "make it a fair fight". [[spoiler: Since she can talk life into things, it probably really did make it a fair fight!]]
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* * In the book, when a duelist comes to ask for something to give him an equal chance in a duel, Sophie tells the powder she gives him that it will "make it a fair fight". [[spoiler: Since she can talk life into things, it probably really did make it a fair fight!]]

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Castle In The Air already has its own page. Also, this is Foreshadowing, not Fridge Brilliance.


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* Several things point toward [[spoiler: Howl being the genie]]:
** Both [[spoiler: Howl and the genie]] are able to summon a wind to speed themselves and their companions to their destination quickly.
** Both of them are cowards at heart.
%%** When Abdullah is arguing with the genie about whether a wish asked for but not granted equals 'one wish per day', the genie says, 'The young man is a coffee-shop lawyer!' Coffee shops were frequent in Britain in the 20th century.
** When Abdullah is telling the genie of his intention to challenge fate, Abdullah notices that the genie's eyes look almost human.


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** When Abdullah is arguing with the genie about whether a wish asked for but not granted equals 'one wish per day', the genie says, 'The young man is a coffee-shop lawyer!'


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** When Abdullah is telling the genie of his intention to challenge fate, Abdullah notices that the genie's eyes look almost human.

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** Both [[spoiler: Howl and the genie]] are able to summon a wind to speed themselves and their companions to their destination quickly.
** Both of them are cowards at heart.
** When Abdullah is arguing with the genie about whether a wish asked for but not granted equals 'one wish per day', the genie says, 'The young man is a coffee-shop lawyer!'

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* Why does Calcifer like to [[ExtremeOmnivore eat everything]]? Because he's fire! And fire ''consumes'' everything!

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* Why does Calcifer like to [[ExtremeOmnivore eat everything]]? Because he's fire! And fire ''consumes'' everything!everything!

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* Several things point toward [[spoiler: Howl being the genie]]:
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** However, going by that logic, at the end of the book [[spoiler: Lettie and Wizard Suliman are implied to be in a relationship, which would make Lettie the Madame Suliman in the movie, except Lettie is shown working at the bakery... what.]]
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* In the book, Sophie has two younger sisters, Lettie and Martha. In the movie there's only Lettie, but a girl named Martha is mentioned at the beginning of the movie. While Sophie is watching Howl's castle from her window, the shop girls can be heard gossiping about a girl named Martha who had her heart "torn out" by Howl. Later, after Sophie becomes cursed and goes out into the Wastes, the man warning her of the danger says to his wife that she "says she's looking for her youngest sister".

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* In the book, Sophie has two younger sisters, Lettie and Martha. In the movie there's only Lettie, but a girl named Martha is mentioned at the beginning of the movie. While Sophie is watching Howl's castle from her window, the shop girls can be heard gossiping about a girl named Martha who had her heart "torn out" by Howl. Later, after Sophie becomes cursed and goes out into the Wastes, the man warning her of the danger says to his wife that she "says she's looking for her youngest sister".sister".
* Why does Calcifer like to [[ExtremeOmnivore eat everything]]? Because he's fire! And fire ''consumes'' everything!
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** However, going by that logic, at the end of the book [[spoiler: Lettie and Wizard Suliman are implied to be in a relationship, which would make Lettie the Madame Suliman in the movie, except Lettie is shown working at the bakery... what.]]

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* In the book, the antagonist [[spoiler: Miss Angorian]] claims to be engaged to Wizard Suliman. Similarily, the movie's antagonist is named Madame Suliman. So really, Miyazaki's choice to give that character that particular name was pretty clever.

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* In the book, the antagonist [[spoiler: Miss Angorian]] claims to be engaged to Wizard Suliman. Similarily, Similarly, the movie's antagonist is named Madame Suliman. So really, Miyazaki's choice to give that character that particular name was pretty clever.clever.
* In the book, Sophie has two younger sisters, Lettie and Martha. In the movie there's only Lettie, but a girl named Martha is mentioned at the beginning of the movie. While Sophie is watching Howl's castle from her window, the shop girls can be heard gossiping about a girl named Martha who had her heart "torn out" by Howl. Later, after Sophie becomes cursed and goes out into the Wastes, the man warning her of the danger says to his wife that she "says she's looking for her youngest sister".
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---> '''Howl''': I've been looking everywhere for you.

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---> '''Howl''': I've been looking everywhere for you.you.
* In the book, the antagonist [[spoiler: Miss Angorian]] claims to be engaged to Wizard Suliman. Similarily, the movie's antagonist is named Madame Suliman. So really, Miyazaki's choice to give that character that particular name was pretty clever.
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* First-time viewers might not catch this, but remember the part where [[spoiler: Sophie travels back in time and she yells at Howl to "find her in the future?"]] Remember what Howl's first line to her is?
---> '''Howl''': I've been looking everywhere for you.

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