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* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to drive out (which they do), one of them needs to be sober. Egon is also established to have a major sweet tooth, so likely he prefers sweet soda to bitter beer.

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* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to drive out (which they do), one of them needs to be sober. Egon is also established to have a major sweet tooth, so likely he prefers sweet soda to bitter beer.beer, making the choice of him as the designated driver an easy one.

* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to drive out (which they do), one of them needs to be sober.

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* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to drive out (which they do), one of them needs to be sober. Egon is also established to have a major sweet tooth, so likely he prefers sweet soda to bitter beer.

* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Egon is established to have a major sweet tooth, so clearly he prefers sweet soda to bitter beer.

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* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Egon is established Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to have a major sweet tooth, so clearly he prefers sweet soda drive out (which they do), one of them needs to bitter beer.be sober.

* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to drive out (which they do), one of them needs to be sober.

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* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need Egon is established to drive out (which they do), one of them needs have a major sweet tooth, so clearly he prefers sweet soda to be sober.bitter beer.

** This is actually confirmed in ''WesternAnimation/ExtremeGhostbusters''. Egon warns the teens not to cross the streams, and Eduardo asks why.
---> '''Eduardo:'''"What will happen? Another electric shock?"
---> '''Egon:'''"Nuclear Explosion.'''
* Watch Zuul and Vinz Clortho during the final confrontation with Gozer. They continue to exhibit the same behavior they did when possessing Dana and Louis, respectively. Zuul is calm and business-like, even intently staring at Venkman after her transformation, clearly recognizing him, and possibly thinking "Oh, it's YOU again! What do you want now, I've already found the real Keymaster!" On the other hand, Vinz is fidgeting nervously on his stone slab, and is the only one to get stroked like a puppy by Gozer. He even tilts his head in a puppy-like fashion when the Busters get zapped by Gozer.
* Gozer showing up as a woman is an in universe case of ValuesDissonance. The idea that a woman is an equally capable threat as a man is a very recent proposition, probably only becoming mainstream in the busters' (who all seem to be in their early to mid thirties) lifetimes. The last time Gozer appeared in our universe, someone tried the Stay-Puft trick, and given the beliefs of the time they settled on a woman as the "most harmless thing ... that could never ever possibly destroy us."
* Why doesn't being hit by molten marshmallow from that high up (and that much of it) kill Peck? Because it's ghostly and doesn't obey regular laws of physics.
** Alternately, it's not liquid because it's hot, it's liquid because it's ''disintegrating'' now that Gozer's spirit has been banished when the gateway collapsed. It's basically marshmallow-colored ectoplasmic slime, not genuine marshmallow.
* In her apartment, early in the film, Dana compares Venkman to a GameshowHost. In the original script, she was supposed to compare him to a [[HonestJohnsDealership Used Car Salesman]], but this was improvised by Sigourney Weaver into the line we know today. If you look at Venkman's character development throughout the movie, he actually turns from a Used Car Salesman into a Gameshow Host - shedding off his deception and cynicism in return for genuine enjoyment of the situation he's in. Instead of conning people into doing what he wants, he's now using his personality to wrangle them into participating in the fun.

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** This is actually confirmed in ''WesternAnimation/ExtremeGhostbusters''. Egon warns the teens not to cross the streams, and Eduardo asks why.
---> '''Eduardo:'''"What will happen? Another electric shock?"
---> '''Egon:'''"Nuclear Explosion.'''
* Watch Zuul and Vinz Clortho during the final confrontation with Gozer. They continue to exhibit the same behavior they did when possessing Dana and Louis, respectively. Zuul is calm and business-like, even intently staring at Venkman after her transformation, clearly recognizing him, and possibly thinking "Oh, it's YOU again! What do you want now, I've already found the real Keymaster!" him. On the other hand, Vinz is fidgeting nervously on his stone slab, and is the only one to get stroked like a puppy by Gozer. He even tilts his head in a puppy-like fashion when the Busters get zapped by Gozer.
* Gozer showing up as a woman is an in universe case of ValuesDissonance. The idea that a woman is an equally capable threat as a man is a very recent proposition, probably only becoming mainstream in the busters' (who all seem to be in their early to mid thirties) lifetimes. The last time Gozer appeared in our universe, someone tried the Stay-Puft trick, and given the beliefs of the time they settled on a woman as the "most harmless thing ... that could never ever possibly destroy us."
* Why doesn't being hit by molten marshmallow from that high up (and that much of it) kill Peck? Because it's ghostly and doesn't obey regular laws of physics.
** Alternately,
it's not liquid because it's hot, it's liquid because it's ''disintegrating'' now that Gozer's spirit has been banished when the gateway collapsed. It's basically marshmallow-colored ectoplasmic slime, not genuine marshmallow.
* In her apartment, early in the film, Dana compares Venkman to a GameshowHost. In the original script, she was supposed to compare him to a [[HonestJohnsDealership Used Car Salesman]], but this was improvised by Sigourney Weaver into the line we know today. If you look at Venkman's character development throughout the movie, he actually turns from a Used Car Salesman into a Gameshow Host - shedding off his deception and cynicism in return for genuine enjoyment of the situation he's in. Instead of conning people into doing what he wants, he's now using his personality to wrangle them into participating in the fun. Of course, this line is also given a loose CallBack in the second film, when Venkman is shown to have actually become a paranormal television show host.

* Why did Zuul never leave Dana's apartment? Because Gatekeepers are not supposed to leave their posts.

* The first time you see the original film, you assume that a "torb" or "sloar" must both be unspeakably-dreadful monstrosities when the Keymaster mentions them. On later viewings, once you know that the destructive force manifested in this era as a 50-foot marshmallow man, you have to wonder if those previous manifestations were as something equally dumb...
** You get to find out what sloars are in the video game, though.
*** How it feels for a Shub or Zull to be roasted inside one remains a mystery.
* The real-life version of 55 Central Park West does not look like it did in the first movie because the Ghostbusters blew up the missing portion!
* He's not doing it out of scientific motives and clearly doesn't notice, believe or care, but Peter Venkman's experiment into "the effects of negative reinforcement on psychic ability" at the beginning of the movie is proved perfectly; the more shocks he gets, the more psychic the kid he's electrocuting gets, while the more he butters up the hot co-ed, the less psychic she gets.
** Yes, but it's not negative reinforcement. The shocks are positive punishment, but because Venkman wants to see him squirm, he ruins the experiment with arbitrary shocking. The girl, thanks to Venkman's praise, is being positively reinforced ''against'' proper psychic deduction.
* The pretty co-ed in the opening scene of the first movie was the control subject in Venkman's experiment. He planned all along to repeatedly shock one subject and let the other one skate by so as to compare the results. The fact that an attractive blonde walked in just made the choice of subjects easier.

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* The first time you see the original film, you assume that Scientific experiments usually require a "torb" or "sloar" must both be unspeakably-dreadful monstrosities when the Keymaster mentions them. On later viewings, once you know that the destructive force manifested in this era as a 50-foot marshmallow man, you have to wonder if those previous manifestations were as something equally dumb...
** You get to find out what sloars are in the video game, though.
*** How it feels for a Shub or Zull to be roasted inside one remains a mystery.
* The real-life version of 55 Central Park West does not look like it did in the first movie because the Ghostbusters blew up the missing portion!
* He's not doing it out of scientific motives and clearly doesn't notice, believe or care, but Peter
control subject. In Venkman's experiment into "the effects of negative reinforcement on psychic ability" at experiment, the beginning of the movie is proved perfectly; the more shocks he gets, the more psychic the kid he's electrocuting gets, while the more he butters up the hot co-ed, the less psychic she gets.
** Yes, but it's not negative reinforcement. The shocks are positive punishment, but because Venkman wants to see him squirm, he ruins the experiment with arbitrary shocking. The girl, thanks to Venkman's praise, is being positively reinforced ''against'' proper psychic deduction.
* The
pretty co-ed in the opening scene of the first movie was is pulling triple duty as the control subject in Venkman's experiment. He planned all along subject, a vessel to repeatedly shock one subject manipulate the actual test subject, and let the other one skate by so as a possible date for later. Venkman shows his willingness to compare the results. The fact that an attractive blonde walked in just made the choice of subjects easier.again combine work with pleasure when dealing with Dana.

* When Venkman goes on his date with Dana he has no reason to suspect that anything more will happen than a typical night out on the town. Why, then, does he later produce a syringe filled with ''Thorazine'' that he'd apparently been carrying on his person the whole time?
** ''A'' syringe? Venkman says he knocked Dana out with around ''300 ccs'' of Thorazine, which is more than a cup of the stuff and would require SEVERAL syringes. Who the hell carries around a cup and a half of a powerful sedative and enough syringes to administer it?! Worse yet, that much Thorazine would probably ''kill'' Dana; of course, her surviving a lethal dose of powerful tranquilizer might be a side effect of being possessed, but ''still''!
*** ...A little Googling escalates the Fridge Horror. Venkman ''is'' a [=PhD=] of both psychology and parapsychology, and most would expect the former to give him license to distribute prescription drugs. Many doctors keep basic equipment in their cars if not the stereotypical "little black bag" whenever they leave their homes, as lives are often saved by a trained medical professional who just happened to be in the right place at the right time - there are just as many dangerous situations that could be defused with a trained hand wielding a strong tranquilizer. Except that psych''ologists'' can't prescribe drugs - one with the training to do so is psych''iatrist''. Why the hell '''is''' a "LovableSexManiac" like Venkman carrying enough tranquilizers to knock out an elephant?
*** Presumably, since he's now a paranormal investigator professionally, he's carrying it around to deal with possession victims.
** Alternatively, it belongs to Dana, taking it to deal with the stress of having a dog in her fridge (or, maybe, she just leads a stressful life). Peter raids her bathroom for something, anything, that might help him deal with a demon-possessed Sigourney Weaver, and he comes across her Thorazine. Giving her 300ccs of the stuff is probably more an indication of how much it took to knock Zuul out rather than Peter risking negligent homicide. The novelisation uses this interpretation of events, though the drug he used is Valium
** Give a thankfully mundane explanation in the movie with a little bit of digging. Luis was kind enough to mention that a drugstore around the corner will deliver to the apartments, as part of his stereotypical nerdy socially awkward guy with medical issues characterization, which combined with the fact that Dr. Venkman is actually a doctor (by degree) probably means he called up and requested some giving his credentials to handwave any questions of what he would need that much tranquilizer for.

!!FridgeHorror:
* When Venkman goes on his date with Dana he has no reason to suspect that anything more will happen than a typical night out on the town. Why, then, does he later produce a syringe filled with ''Thorazine'' that he'd apparently been carrying on his person the whole time?
** ''A'' syringe? Venkman says he knocked Dana out with around ''300 ccs'' of Thorazine, which is more than a cup of the stuff and would require SEVERAL syringes. Who the hell carries around a cup and a half of a powerful sedative and enough syringes to administer it?! Worse yet, that much Thorazine would probably ''kill'' Dana; of course, her surviving a lethal dose of powerful tranquilizer might be a side effect of being possessed, but ''still''!
*** ...A little Googling escalates the Fridge Horror. Venkman ''is'' a [=PhD=] of both psychology and parapsychology, and most would expect the former to give him license to distribute prescription drugs. Many doctors keep basic equipment in their cars if not the stereotypical "little black bag" whenever they leave their homes, as lives are often saved by a trained medical professional who just happened to be in the right place at the right time - there are just as many dangerous situations that could be defused with a trained hand wielding a strong tranquilizer. Except that psych''ologists'' can't prescribe drugs - one with the training to do so is psych''iatrist''. Why the hell '''is''' a "LovableSexManiac" like Venkman carrying enough tranquilizers to knock out an elephant?
*** Presumably, since he's now a paranormal investigator professionally, he's carrying it around to deal with possession victims.
** Alternatively, it belongs to Dana, taking it to deal with the stress of having a dog in her fridge (or, maybe, she just leads a stressful life). Peter raids her bathroom for something, anything, that might help him deal with a demon-possessed Sigourney Weaver, and he comes across her Thorazine. Giving her 300ccs of the stuff is probably more an indication of how much it took to knock Zuul out rather than Peter risking negligent homicide. The novelisation uses this interpretation of events, though the drug he used is Valium
** Give a thankfully mundane explanation in the movie with a little bit of digging. Luis was kind enough to mention that a drugstore around the corner will deliver to the apartments, as part of his stereotypical nerdy socially awkward guy with medical issues characterization, which combined with the fact that Dr. Venkman is actually a doctor (by degree) probably means he called up and requested some giving his credentials to handwave any questions of what he would need that much tranquilizer for.
* Gozer's destroyer form is considered to be pretty unimpressive, and deliberately so, but we don't really know what it was capable of. After all, Gozer in the form of a woman seemed pretty harmless until she started throwing lightning and doing hundred foot flips from a dead stop. There's no telling what Staypuft would have been capable of if it hadn't been beaten so fast. Even the weaker version from the game released a few years ago could spawn ghostly marshmallow minions.
* Stay-Puft melted into endless rivers of molten marshmallow, not ash, indicating the explosion wasn't hot enough to reduce him to ash (given the Ghostbusters, Dana, and Louis survived it, that probably goes without saying). If Gozer had taken Peter's suggestion of a giant J. Edgar Hoover or some other human, would New York City have been coated in LudicrousGibs instead of just a bunch of s'more filler?
!!FridgeBrilliance:
* The first time you see the original film, you assume that a "torb" or "sloar" must both be unspeakably-dreadful monstrosities when the Keymaster mentions them. On later viewings, once you know that the destructive force manifested in this era as a 50-foot marshmallow man, you have to wonder if those previous manifestations were as something equally dumb...
** You get to find out what sloars are in the video game, though.
*** How it feels for a Shub or Zull to be roasted inside one remains a mystery.
* The real-life version of 55 Central Park West does not look like it did in the first movie because the Ghostbusters blew up the missing portion!
* He's not doing it out of scientific motives and clearly doesn't notice, believe or care, but Peter Venkman's experiment into "the effects of negative reinforcement on psychic ability" at the beginning of the movie is proved perfectly; the more shocks he gets, the more psychic the kid he's electrocuting gets, while the more he butters up the hot co-ed, the less psychic she gets.
** Yes, but it's not negative reinforcement. The shocks are positive punishment, but because Venkman wants to see him squirm, he ruins the experiment with arbitrary shocking. The girl, thanks to Venkman's praise, is being positively reinforced ''against'' proper psychic deduction.
* The pretty co-ed in the opening scene of the first movie was the control subject in Venkman's experiment. He planned all along to repeatedly shock one subject and let the other one skate by so as to compare the results. The fact that an attractive blonde walked in just made the choice of subjects easier.
* Why did Zuul never leave Dana's apartment? Because Gatekeepers are not supposed to leave their posts.
* Egon's warning against CrossingTheStreams makes sense when you think about what those devices are: focused proton emitters (like a laser, but with sub-atomic matter instead of light). Protons are positively charged. Particles with like charges repel each other. Two or more proton streams colliding is likely going to cause a massive repulsion effect, setting off nuclear chain reactions around the immediate vicinity (depending on the relative atomic stabilities of the surrounding objects). Not pretty.
** This is actually confirmed in ''WesternAnimation/ExtremeGhostbusters''. Egon warns the teens not to cross the streams, and Eduardo asks why.
---> '''Eduardo:'''"What will happen? Another electric shock?"
---> '''Egon:'''"Nuclear Explosion.'''
* Watch Zuul and Vinz Clortho during the final confrontation with Gozer. They continue to exhibit the same behavior they did when possessing Dana and Louis, respectively. Zuul is calm and business-like, even intently staring at Venkman after her transformation, clearly recognizing him, and possibly thinking "Oh, it's YOU again! What do you want now, I've already found the real Keymaster!" On the other hand, Vinz is fidgeting nervously on his stone slab, and is the only one to get stroked like a puppy by Gozer. He even tilts his head in a puppy-like fashion when the Busters get zapped by Gozer.
* Gozer showing up as a woman is an in universe case of ValuesDissonance. The idea that a woman is an equally capable threat as a man is a very recent proposition, probably only becoming mainstream in the busters' (who all seem to be in their early to mid thirties) lifetimes. The last time Gozer appeared in our universe, someone tried the Stay-Puft trick, and given the beliefs of the time they settled on a woman as the "most harmless thing ... that could never ever possibly destroy us."
* Why doesn't being hit by molten marshmallow from that high up (and that much of it) kill Peck? Because it's ghostly and doesn't obey regular laws of physics.
** Alternately, it's not liquid because it's hot, it's liquid because it's ''disintegrating'' now that Gozer's spirit has been banished when the gateway collapsed. It's basically marshmallow-colored ectoplasmic slime, not genuine marshmallow.
* In her apartment, early in the film, Dana compares Venkman to a GameshowHost. In the original script, she was supposed to compare him to a [[HonestJohnsDealership Used Car Salesman]], but this was improvised by Sigourney Weaver into the line we know today. If you look at Venkman's character development throughout the movie, he actually turns from a Used Car Salesman into a Gameshow Host - shedding off his deception and cynicism in return for genuine enjoyment of the situation he's in. Instead of conning people into doing what he wants, he's now using his personality to wrangle them into participating in the fun.
* If you look closely at the "magnificent feast" the group is eating just before their first real call, Egon is drinking soda, while the others have beer. Seems odd, until you realize they're still "on call," and if they need to drive out (which they do), one of them needs to be sober.

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