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* The reason Kiriyama lost? He's an EmptyShell. He wasn't even trying.

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* The reason Kiriyama lost? lost in the novel? He's an EmptyShell. He wasn't even trying.
* The movie version of Kiriyama lacks the backstory of his novel counterpart that establishes him as someone who can master anything he tries instantly. So why does he still rack up a large kill count? It's noted that he ''volunteered'' to participate in The Program. He likely trained beforehand in order to be as deadly as possible. There's also the fact that he's a complete stranger to the rest of the class and has no camaraderie with any of them, so psychopathy aside he has no hang-ups gunning down everyone in his path, regardless of their threat level or attempts to rebel against The Program (as Shinji tragically found out). The deck is actually stacked in his favor quite a bit.
* That The Program would let someone volunteer to participate actually makes perfect sense. There's the ever present possibility that the kids selected for their game may not be willing to kill each other in large enough numbers for a clear winner to emerge, and some students may chose to rebel against The Program entirely (like Shinji or Kawada). Adding someone like Kiriyama keeps everyone occupied with a threat that isn't anyone directly connected to The Program.


** Also, consider another reason why the number of youths in the country might be dwindling. Perhaps The Program is such an effective scare tactic that people in the country aren't having kids as often [[AdultFear out of fear that they might have to see them go through The Program someday]].

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** Also, consider another reason why the number of youths in the country might be dwindling. Perhaps The Program is such an effective scare tactic that people in the country aren't having kids as often [[AdultFear out of fear that they might have to see them go through The Program someday]].someday.


* In the film, Shogo tells Shuuya and Noriko that Kiriyama sighed up to joined the game willingly. While the idea that such a thing is possible, and people actually DO IT is terrifying enough. Shogo also mentions that his year had one. Considering how terrifying Kiriyama is, one can only imagine what the 'volunteer' of that game was like.

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* In the film, Shogo tells Shuuya and Noriko that Kiriyama sighed up to joined join the game willingly. While the idea that such a thing is possible, and people actually DO IT is terrifying enough. Shogo also mentions that his year had one. Considering how terrifying Kiriyama is, one can only imagine what the 'volunteer' of that game was like.

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* In the film, Shogo tells Shuuya and Noriko that Kiriyama sighed up to joined the game willingly. While the idea that such a thing is possible, and people actually DO IT is terrifying enough. Shogo also mentions that his year had one. Considering how terrifying Kiriyama is, one can only imagine what the 'volunteer' of that game was like.

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*** 94,000 at minimum, that means 2,350 people have survived the game, and how many of them were already budding psychos because of how the most ruthless or crazy the winners would mostly be?


* In the novel, Sakamochi tells his superior his wife is expecting their third child, as they are eager to fight the dwindling youth in the country. Pause. Think. Despite being the cause of said dwindling youth, the country wants more kids. ''They are encouraging people to have kids that may end up in The Program''.

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* In the novel, Sakamochi tells his superior his wife is expecting their third child, as they are eager to fight the dwindling youth in the country. Pause. Think. Despite being the cause of said dwindling youth, the country wants more kids. ''They are encouraging people to have kids that may end up in The Program''.Program''.
** Also, consider another reason why the number of youths in the country might be dwindling. Perhaps The Program is such an effective scare tactic that people in the country aren't having kids as often [[AdultFear out of fear that they might have to see them go through The Program someday]].

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** Thousands, even. In the novel, at least, it's been going on for 50 years, and 47-50 classes of ~40 students are selected each year - something on the order of 100,000 students have been put through the grinder.


* Virtually all the students have handicaps since they haven't had much sleep. To be specific:
** Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama.
* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. -Tropers/MokonaZero
** The [[spoiler:vest]] does slow him down, but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga, Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.
** Also it should be noted, since he's an EmptyShell, he wasn't even trying.

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* Virtually all the students have handicaps since they haven't had much sleep. To be specific:
** Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama.
* When you realize that
The reason Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. -Tropers/MokonaZero
** The [[spoiler:vest]] does slow him down, but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga, Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.
** Also it should be noted, since he's
lost? He's an EmptyShell, he EmptyShell. He wasn't even trying.


* In the novel, just image the kids Shogo had to kill....and he still kept his sanity.



*** Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama.
* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. Tropers/MokonaZero
*** The vest does slow him down but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.

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*** ** Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama.
* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. Tropers/MokonaZero
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-Tropers/MokonaZero
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The vest [[spoiler:vest]] does slow him down down, but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga manga, Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.



* The realization that The Program has been around for years; meaning that hundreds of children have gone through the same thing.
* If you win The Program they expect you to live life as [[ButForMeItWasTuesday though you didn't slaughter your classmates]].
* in the novel, Sakamochi tells his superior his wife is expecting their third child, as they are eager to fight the dwindling youth in the country. Pause. Think. Despite being the cause of said dwindling youth, thee country wants more kids. They are encouraging people to have kids that may end up in the Program.

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* In the novel, just image the kids Shogo had to kill... and he still kept his sanity.
* The realization that The Program has been around for years; years, meaning that hundreds of children have gone through the same thing.
* If you win The Program Program, they expect you to live life as [[ButForMeItWasTuesday though you didn't slaughter your classmates]].
* in In the novel, Sakamochi tells his superior his wife is expecting their third child, as they are eager to fight the dwindling youth in the country. Pause. Think. Despite being the cause of said dwindling youth, thee the country wants more kids. They ''They are encouraging people to have kids that may end up in the Program.The Program''.

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* in the novel, Sakamochi tells his superior his wife is expecting their third child, as they are eager to fight the dwindling youth in the country. Pause. Think. Despite being the cause of said dwindling youth, thee country wants more kids. They are encouraging people to have kids that may end up in the Program.


*** Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama.
*** Kiriyama has no willpower to do anything, yet excels at everything.

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*** Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama. \n*** Kiriyama has no willpower to do anything, yet excels at everything.


* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: without even trying, and while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. Tropers/MokonaZero
* The vest does slow him down but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.

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*Virtually all the students have handicaps since they haven't had much sleep. To be specific:
***Hiroki was [[spoiler: stabbed in the arm and shot in the leg]] before fighting Kiriyama.
***Kiriyama has no willpower to do anything, yet excels at everything.
* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: without even trying, and while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. Tropers/MokonaZero
* *** The vest does slow him down but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.Mitsuko.
**Also it should be noted, since he's an EmptyShell, he wasn't even trying.



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* The vest does slow him down but it also protects him from most of the damage he took so it was a trade off which shouldn't count. In the manga Hiroki would have killed him if he hadn't had it on and his film and novel versions he would have killed by Mitsuko.

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*In the novel, just image the kids Shogo had to kill....and he still kept his sanity.


* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: without even trying, and while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. MokonaZero

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* When you realize that Kiriyama fought in The Program [[spoiler: without even trying, and while wearing a bullet proof vest that weighs him down]]. MokonaZero
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