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** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge, his mentor, who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-supreme Sinister.

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** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge, his mentor, who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-supreme Sinister.Sinister.
* In the history of this world the Original 5 X-men are the same with the exception that Nate has taken Beast’s place in the team while Beast is in jail. Given how much he hates Dark Beast, this shouldn’t be a surprise.


* The four people missing from X-Man's "utopia" (supposedly "dead" in this reality, perhaps [[RetGone excluded from it entirely]]) are ComicBook/{{Cyclops}}, ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, [[ComicBook/ProfessorX Charles Xavier]], and ComicBook/HopeSummers. Not only are all four strong-willed enough to likely resist his worldview, Hope is the only one whose [[AllYourPowersCombined powers]] could outright undo his. It's little wonder Nate's history has Hope martyred for his cause.
** At the same time, it also foreshadows both Nate's AGodIAmNot views, and calls back to his expression of absolute faith in her as the Mutant Messiah in the run up to ''ComicBook/AvengersVersusXMen''. Of course Hope's the Jesus equivalent of mutantkind - that's how Nate sees her.

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* The four people missing from X-Man's "utopia" (supposedly "dead" in this reality, perhaps [[RetGone excluded from it entirely]]) are ComicBook/{{Cyclops}}, ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, [[ComicBook/ProfessorX Charles Xavier]], and ComicBook/HopeSummers. Not only are all four strong-willed enough to likely resist his worldview, Hope is the only one whose [[AllYourPowersCombined powers]] could outright undo his. It's little wonder Nate's history has Hope martyred for his cause.
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** At the same time, it also foreshadows both Nate's AGodIAmNot views, and calls back to his expression of absolute faith in her as the Mutant Messiah in the run up to ''ComicBook/AvengersVersusXMen''.''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen''. Of course Hope's the Jesus equivalent of mutantkind - that's how Nate sees her.

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** At the same time, it also foreshadows both Nate's AGodIAmNot views, and calls back to his expression of absolute faith in her as the Mutant Messiah in the run up to ''ComicBook/AvengersVersusXMen''. Of course Hope's the Jesus equivalent of mutantkind - that's how Nate sees her.
* X-Man doesn't believe he is a god, despite easily having more power than most characters that are referred to as gods. He doesn't even take the InUniverse role of moral guide, leaving that to the dead Charles Xavier, much less Messiah, leaving to the dead Hope. Why? Because he doesn't believe he deserves it. He seems himself as a necessary destroyer, born to end the apocalypse, but not to lead. And why's that? Well, he's been burned in the past by those seeing him as a Messiah, as the incident in New York where the Purple Man manipulated him into becoming the 'Manhattan Marvel', which had horrible consequences for much of his supporting cast. More generally, he's been out on a pedestal and destined to do one thing or another all of his life. It kinda makes sense that he just wants to take a back seat and relax.


** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , his mentor , who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-supreme Sinister.

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** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , Forge, his mentor , mentor, who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-supreme Sinister.


** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , his mentor , who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-Supreme Sinister.

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** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , his mentor , who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-Supreme scientist-supreme Sinister.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of actual ParentalIncest : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother whom he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defense.
** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , his mentor , who was murdered by his creator, his reality’s counterpart of Sinister.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic romantic/sexual relationships in his solo series were outright upfront cases of actual ParentalIncest : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother whom he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C mother, the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defense.
** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , his mentor , who was murdered in front of him by his actual creator, his reality’s counterpart of mad scientist-Supreme Sinister.


** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest thing he had to a father was his creator, Sinister.

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** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest thing person he had to a father was his reality’s counterpart of the X-Man Forge , his mentor , who was murdered by his creator, his reality’s counterpart of Sinister.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of actual ParentalIncest : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.
** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean, and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest thing he had to a father was his creator, Sinister.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of actual ParentalIncest : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who whom he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.self-defense.
** He also never really had a family, save for intermittent encounters with Cable, Jean, Jean and Maddie (he got to know and got on with Cyclops later on) - his relationship with Jean was the one that could remotely be called close or stable. Oh, and the closest thing he had to a father was his creator, Sinister.


** As it turns out, this was intentional, with the two of them striking a bargain: Apocalypse plays the rebel/villain, drawing disruptive elements to him, where Nate can keep an eye on them - and not only that, but give the X-Men something to fight, which they subconsciously need.

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** As it turns out, this was intentional, with the two of them striking a bargain: Apocalypse plays playing the rebel/villain, drawing disruptive elements to him, where Nate can keep an eye on them - and not only that, but give the X-Men something to fight, which they subconsciously need.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of actual ParentalIncest (IAmNotMakingThisUp) : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of actual ParentalIncest (IAmNotMakingThisUp) : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of AccidentalIncest and ParentalIncest : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright cases of AccidentalIncest and actual ParentalIncest (IAmNotMakingThisUp) : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright [[Freudian ParentalIncest]]: Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were outright [[Freudian ParentalIncest]]: cases of AccidentalIncest and ParentalIncest : Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were [Oedipal/Freudian ParentalIncest]: Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were [Oedipal/Freudian ParentalIncest]: outright [[Freudian ParentalIncest]]: Maddie Pryor, the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time seducing him, the other half fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were Outright [ParentalIncest Oedipal]: Maddie Pryor, who was a clone of his own genetic mother (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time trying to seduce him, the other half trying to kill him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic). The other two women with whom who he had romantic relationships in his solo series were Outright [ParentalIncest Oedipal]: [Oedipal/Freudian ParentalIncest]: Maddie Pryor, who was a the deceased clone of his own genetic mother who he accidentally unconsciously resurrected from the afterlife upon his arrival in the main Marvel universe (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time trying to seduce seducing him, the other half trying to kill fighting him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.


** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic. The other two women who really expressed interest in him in his solo series were Maddie Pryor, who was a clone of his genetic mother (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time trying to seduce him, the other half trying to kill him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of real Jean, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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** His main LoveInterest, Threnody, was manipulating and spying on him on Sinister's behalf while also planning to use him against Sinister, addicted to his powers (she fed off death energies, he was both dying and an absurdly powerful psychic. psychic). The other two women with whom who really expressed interest in him he had romantic relationships in his solo series were Outright [ParentalIncest Oedipal]: Maddie Pryor, who was a clone of his own genetic mother (it was weird), who was a massive {{Tsundere}}, spending half her time trying to seduce him, the other half trying to kill him, and Queen Jean - an EvilCounterpart of said mother C the real Jean, Jean Grey, who pretended to be Maddie as part of a plan to enslave him and use him as a LivingWeapon and generalised slave [[{{squick}} (including sex slave)]] and he had to kill her in self-defence.

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