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** In addition, the personalities of the characters behind these arcs matters too. [[BenevolentBoss Bunny Colvin]] is a sympathetic character, who only wants what's best for his community while also meeting the demands City Hall is placing upon the police department to lower the crime rates. He clearly is "one of the good guys", as much as this is possible in the scope of this show. [=McNulty=] is mostly likeable in the first four seasons, but is really despicable in season 5: drunk, not giving a shit about anyone else, and though you can argue he's doing kinda the right things by willing to get a more functional police department, he does it for selfish reasons (getting the money spigot turned on so he can bring down Marlo Stanfield).

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** In addition, the personalities of the characters behind these arcs matters too. [[BenevolentBoss Bunny Colvin]] is a sympathetic character, who only wants what's best for his community while also meeting the demands City Hall is placing upon the police department to lower the crime rates. He clearly is "one of the good guys", as much as this is possible in the scope of this show. He's also doing it after [[AFatherToHisMen seeing a detective nearly die]] in a sting operation for a pitifully small amount of drugs and since his kids are grown and he is retiring soon, he figures he has nothing to lose even if it all goes to hell. [=McNulty=] is mostly likeable in the first four seasons, but is really despicable in season 5: drunk, not giving a shit about anyone else, and though you can argue he's doing kinda the right things by willing to get a more functional police department, he does it for selfish reasons (getting the money spigot turned on so he can bring down Marlo Stanfield).Stanfield) and is still a working detective with a family to support which he doesn't care about risking for the sake of getting Marlo.
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** Accusations of certain cast members hogging up too much spotlight go all the way back to the days of Creator/EddieMurphy, with the man literally hosting an episode while he was still a cast member. People didn't complain then because Murphy's legendary run was viewed as being just ''that'' good and he was only on the show for four seasons so his time in the spotlight was fairly brief in the grand scheme of things. But in recent years, many of Lorne Michael's favorites receive backlash from overexposure, particularly since many of these cast members now stay on the show for over ''ten'' seasons. This also works in individual cases where a cast member may be great, but when they're pushed to the center stage so often it feels like too much of a good thing. Also, starting in the early '90s the casts have generally been larger than in the '70s and '80s, making it all the more glaring when one cast member hogs the spotlight.

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** Accusations of certain cast members hogging up too much spotlight go all the way back to the days of Creator/EddieMurphy, with the man literally hosting an episode while he was still a cast member. People didn't complain then because Murphy's legendary run was viewed as being just ''that'' good good, especially since he debuted during the show's infamous sixth season, and he was only on the show for four seasons so his time in the spotlight was fairly brief in the grand scheme of things. But in recent years, many of Lorne Michael's favorites receive backlash from overexposure, particularly since many of these cast members now stay on the show for over ''ten'' seasons. This also works in individual cases where a cast member may be great, but when they're pushed to the center stage so often it feels like too much of a good thing. Also, starting in the early '90s the casts have generally been larger than in the '70s and '80s, making it all the more glaring when one cast member hogs the spotlight.
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** One of the biggest criticisms of the second half of the series is that Dexter never changes or has to grow or face any consequences for his actions. He is always afforded a way out of any hard choices by the writers so the series' premise never has to radically change and the audience won't turn against him. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZSBsWZIeQI This video]] posits that said issues started in the second season, widely acclaimed as the show's best, as Dexter is faced with a dilemma where he can let Doakes go and be caught or kill Doakes and go against his code of never hurting innocent people and rather than do either, the show gives him an easy way out by having Lilah kill Doakes and allowing Dexter to get away scot free, setting up a pattern where Dexter would always be given a way out, even later killing an innocent man in the fourth season but dismissing it because the man [[AssholeVictim was a jerk anyway]] and never bringing it up again, and repeating the same issue with Doakes with Deb and La Guerta in the seventh season where [[spoiler: Deb kills La Guerta for him, keeping Dexter's hands clean.]]
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* The second and final season of ''Series/{{Rome}}'' gets a lot of criticism for its absurdly compressed timespan, attempting to chronicle around 17 years of Roman history in ''ten episodes''. It's easy to miss, but Season 1--[[SeasonalRot which is quite a bit more highly regarded]]--also had a pretty compressed timespan, chronicling ''eight'' years of Roman history in ''twelve'' episodes. Though this was a major flaw of the series from the beginning, it was forgivable in the first season because the pacing was a bit more reasonable, and personal drama always took precedence over grand historical spectacle. Pullo and Vorenus developed organically as characters, and Caesar, Brutus, Attia and Octavian went through enough CharacterDevelopment that the actual historical events surrounding them didn't seem rushed. But by the time the quickened pace was increased by Season 2, the compression became impossible to ignore. Pullo and Vorenus had some reasonably compelling arcs, but they ultimately stayed oddly static after nearly two decades. And as historical events took center-stage, it became harder to forgive the writers for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot failing to utilize promising storylines]] involving the plot against King Herod, the war against Brutus and Cassius, and Cleopatra's court. [[note]] According to WordOfGod, this was an unavoidable result of the series' abrupt cancellation. If it had stayed on the air longer, Bruno Heller wanted to spend an entire season on the civil war, with a later season taking place entirely in Egypt, and another dealing directly with the rise of the Messiah in Palestine.[[/note]]

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* The second and final season of ''Series/{{Rome}}'' gets a lot of criticism for its absurdly compressed timespan, attempting to chronicle around 17 years of Roman history in ''ten episodes''. It's easy to miss, but Season 1--[[SeasonalRot which is quite a bit more highly regarded]]--also had a pretty compressed timespan, chronicling ''eight'' years of Roman history in ''twelve'' episodes. Though this was a major flaw of the series from the beginning, it was forgivable in the first season because the pacing was a bit more reasonable, and personal drama always took precedence over grand historical spectacle. Pullo and Vorenus developed organically as characters, and Caesar, Brutus, Attia Atia and Octavian went through enough CharacterDevelopment that the actual historical events surrounding them didn't seem rushed. But by the time the quickened pace was increased by Season 2, the compression became impossible to ignore. Pullo and Vorenus had some reasonably compelling arcs, but they ultimately stayed oddly static after nearly two decades. And as historical events took center-stage, it became harder to forgive the writers for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot failing to utilize promising storylines]] involving the plot against King Herod, the war against Brutus and Cassius, and Cleopatra's court. [[note]] According to WordOfGod, this was an unavoidable result of the series' abrupt cancellation. If it had stayed on the air longer, Bruno Heller wanted to spend an entire season on the civil war, with a later season taking place entirely in Egypt, and another dealing directly with the rise of the Messiah in Palestine.[[/note]]
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* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' always had a camp, sexual, and grim feel. ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth'' was considered the GrowingTheBeard moment, there was a dramatic five-episode story arc that is considered by many the best series of ''Torchwood'', along with the shocking death of one of the main cast. However, in ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' severe SeasonalRot set in. The sex scenes were seen as dragging the story out, the brutality became distracting, and the deaths were poorly paced and felt like they were there for shock value. The series was 10 episodes, but the effect was the story felt dragged out, with significant pacing problems and a lot of padding, and there was a significant drop in viewers around half-way. ''Children of Earth'' moved further away from its parent series of ''Doctor Who'', and as a result many people hate it for being very difficult to fit into [[{{Pun}} contiwhonity]].

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* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' always had a camp, campy, sexual, and grim feel. feel compared to its [[''Series/DoctorWho'' parent series]]. ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth'' was considered the GrowingTheBeard moment, there was moment due to it containing a dramatic five-episode story arc that is considered by many the best series of ''Torchwood'', along plus with the shocking death of one of the main cast. However, in ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' severe SeasonalRot set in. in when it tried to recreate the same effect as ''Children of Earth'' to less successful results. The sex scenes that had helped ''Children of Earth'' stand out from the TamerAndChaster parent series were seen as dragging the story out, the brutality that had previously been a shocking indicator of heightened stakes became distracting, and the deaths were poorly paced and felt like they were there for shock value. The series was 10 episodes, but value rather than for any true narrative weight. And while the effect was five episode story arc from ''Children of Earth'' is considered to have allowed the story felt arc in question all the time it needed to reach its full potential, the 10 episode length of ''Miracle Day'' left the story feeling dragged out, with significant pacing problems and a lot of padding, and there was a significant drop in viewers around half-way. To make a long story short, while ''Children of Earth'' moved further away had previously allowed itself to adequately stand out on its own merits separate from its parent series of ''Doctor Who'', and gained critical acclaim for such, the later efforts to continue the momentum resulted in ''Torchwood'' as a result many people hate whole becoming widely hated due to moving too far away from its roots to the point that it for being very not only felt [[SeasonalRot weaker and less effective over the course of subsequent series]], but also felt too difficult to fit into [[{{Pun}} contiwhonity]].contiwhonity]] anymore.
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* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' always had a camp, sexual, and grim feel. ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth'' was considered the GrowingTheBeard moment, there was a dramatic five-episode story arc that is considered by many the best series of ''Torchwood'', along with the shocking death of one of the main cast. However, in ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' severe SeasonalRot set in. The sex scenes were seen as dragging the story out, the brutality became distracting, and the deaths were poorly paced and felt like they were there for shock value. The series was 10 episodes, but the effect was the story felt dragged out, with significant pacing problems and a lot of padding, and there was a significant drop in viewers around half-way. ''Children of Earth'' moved further away from its parent series of ''Doctor Who'', and as a result many people hate it for being very difficult to fit into [[IncrediblyLamePun contiwhonity]].

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* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' always had a camp, sexual, and grim feel. ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth'' was considered the GrowingTheBeard moment, there was a dramatic five-episode story arc that is considered by many the best series of ''Torchwood'', along with the shocking death of one of the main cast. However, in ''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay'' severe SeasonalRot set in. The sex scenes were seen as dragging the story out, the brutality became distracting, and the deaths were poorly paced and felt like they were there for shock value. The series was 10 episodes, but the effect was the story felt dragged out, with significant pacing problems and a lot of padding, and there was a significant drop in viewers around half-way. ''Children of Earth'' moved further away from its parent series of ''Doctor Who'', and as a result many people hate it for being very difficult to fit into [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} contiwhonity]].
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* The later seasons of ''M*A*S*H'' are widely criticized for straying too far from the show's sitcom roots and basically being a DramaticHalfHour. However, while the show's early years, when it was a straight-up sitcom, are well-regarded, the show is widely regarded to have started GrowingTheBeard with Colonel Blake's death at the end of season 3. The show's middle years are often considered its best and are widely considered pioneering in the {{Dramedy}} genre, but its later years are often considered to have left comedy behind, not to mention becoming too {{Anvilicious}} and laden with {{Wangst}}.

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* The later seasons of ''M*A*S*H'' ''Series/{{MASH}}'' are widely criticized for straying too far from the show's sitcom roots and basically being a DramaticHalfHour. However, while the show's early years, when it was a straight-up sitcom, are well-regarded, the show is widely regarded to have started GrowingTheBeard with Colonel Blake's death at the end of season 3. The show's middle years are often considered its best and are widely considered pioneering in the {{Dramedy}} genre, but its later years are often considered to have left comedy behind, not to mention becoming too {{Anvilicious}} and laden with {{Wangst}}.
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** One moment some viewers marked the show's descent into ridiculousness was in season 2 when Frank kills Zoe Barnes by pushing her in front of a train. However, ''Series/HouseOfCardsUK'' protagonist Francis Urquhart also killed a young female journalist he was having a relationship with, named Mattie Storin, by pushing her off a roof. However, unlike Frank, Francis seemed shocked by what he'd just done and was haunted by it for the rest of the series.

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** One moment some viewers think marked the show's descent into ridiculousness was in season 2 when Frank kills Zoe Barnes by pushing her in front of a train. However, ''Series/HouseOfCardsUK'' protagonist Francis Urquhart also killed a young female journalist he was having a relationship with, named Mattie Storin, by pushing her off a roof. However, unlike Frank, Francis seemed shocked by what he'd just done and was haunted by it for the rest of the series.
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* ''Series/TheLordOfTheRingsTheRingsOfPower'':
** Older adaptations that took great liberties with Tolkien's work such as ''VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfWar'' also received their fair share of criticism. Unlike ''The Rings of Power,'' however, the ''Shadow'' games were never marketed as "the novel Tolkien never wrote" and instead took after the Peter Jackson trilogy more than anything. They also treated the story as part of its own continuity rather than taking place in the film or book continuity, which dampened criticisms concerning continuity issues.
** Galadriel is not the first major Tolkien character to be given an AdaptationalAngstUpgrade, an implied AgeLift, and a more combat-oriented and brusque characterization; Thorin Oakenshield underwent the same transformation for Peter Jackson's ''Film/TheHobbit''. Moreover, even the well-loved Peter Jackson adaptation of ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' wasn't above making extreme characterization changes, most notably with [[AdaptationalVillainy Denethor]], [[AdaptationalComicRelief Gimli]], [[AdaptationalWimp Faramir]], [[RefusalOfTheCall Aragorn]], and [[HumansAreBastards Elrond]]. However, since most fans today were introduced to ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' through the films and the characters still follow the same plot between book and movie, the changes are far less noticeable.
** This criticism was already in effect as the LOTR movies progressed and even more so with the Hobbit movies, but criticism of Galadriel's showy and acrobatic battle feats are often countered by pointing to Legolas's increasingly showy and acrobatic feats in the Jackson movies as well. That being said, Legolas was already established as being a fairly skilled fighter in his own way in both the original books ''and'' the movies, and the fact that most fans today were first introduced to him through the movies anyway meant that his more showy and acrobatic side displayed in the movies wasn't quite as jarring compared to his not showing such skill in the books. But by the time The Rings of Power came out, the image of Galadriel being the type of character who largely avoids direct conflict and mostly uses magic to get things done instead of straight up physical sword fighting and similar warrior-like actions had [[AudienceColoringAdaptation become heavily cemented and ingrained in public consciousness]] by the LOTR movies, making her characterization in Rings of Power as a sword wielding Amazon style warrior seem radically different and more difficult to accept despite such a characterization [[OlderThanTheyThink having a small degree of basis in the original Tolkien source material]].
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** Starting in the 2016 election season, the show's faced criticism for using StuntCasting with former cast members and celebrity guests in satirizing major political figures instead of some of the show's regular cast members, most notably with frequent host Creator/AlecBaldwin playing UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. Although this was a practice that stretched as far back as the 1990s, e.g. a 1993 sketch had Creator/PhilHartman as UsefulNotes/BillClinton appearing with former castmembers Creator/JanHooks as UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton and Creator/DanAykroyd as UsefulNotes/BobDole, despite neither of the latter two appearing as a host. The practice didn't garner as much criticism back then due to the fact the show mostly stuck to using previous cast members who did quality impressions rather than impressions of varying quality from any celebrity they could get to appear. Plus, they didn't appear on such a frequent basis that they could be considered a FakeGuestStar, like Baldwin as Trump. Furthermore, one major antecedent for the trend of this kind of stunt casting was Creator/TinaFey as UsefulNotes/SarahPalin in 2008 when Palin was UsefulNotes/JohnMcCain's running mate on the Republican presidential ticket. However, even before Fey was cast as Palin many people had already noted the resemblance between the two, making the casting a natural fit, whereas Baldwin and Trump lacked that kind of connection in people's minds before Baldwin was cast as Trump(which, appropriately enough, was Fey's idea). Also, SNL already had a long-running Trump impressionist working for the show in Creator/DarrellHammond, whereas Palin wasn't a national public figure before 2008 and so had never been portrayed on SNL. Furthermore, The fact that Palin's ticket lost(and that it was made clear that, with Fey busy with ''Series/ThirtyRock'', that if Palin had become VP the role would've been given to Creator/KristenWiig) made it so Fey's Palin impression didn't overstay its welcome,. Baldwin continued to play Trump throughout his entire presidency, making it all the more glaring that someone who was never a cast member was playing such an important recurring role.

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** Starting in the 2016 election season, the show's faced criticism for using StuntCasting with former cast members and celebrity guests in satirizing major political figures instead of some of the show's regular cast members, most notably with frequent host Creator/AlecBaldwin playing UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. Although this was a practice that stretched as far back as the 1990s, e.g. a 1993 sketch had Creator/PhilHartman as UsefulNotes/BillClinton appearing with former castmembers Creator/JanHooks as UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton and Creator/DanAykroyd as UsefulNotes/BobDole, despite neither of the latter two appearing as a host. The practice didn't garner as much criticism back then due to the fact the show mostly stuck to using previous cast members who did quality impressions rather than impressions of varying quality from any celebrity they could get to appear. Plus, they didn't appear on such a frequent basis that they could be considered a FakeGuestStar, like Baldwin as Trump. Furthermore, one major antecedent for the trend of this kind of stunt casting was Creator/TinaFey as UsefulNotes/SarahPalin in 2008 when Palin was UsefulNotes/JohnMcCain's running mate on the Republican presidential ticket. However, even before Fey was cast as Palin many people had already noted the resemblance between the two, making the casting a natural fit, whereas Baldwin and Trump lacked that kind of connection in people's minds before Baldwin was cast as Trump(which, appropriately enough, was Fey's idea). Also, SNL already had a long-running Trump impressionist working for the show in Creator/DarrellHammond, whereas Palin wasn't a national public figure before 2008 and so had never been portrayed on SNL. Furthermore, Additionally, The fact that Palin's ticket lost(and that it was made clear that, with Fey busy with ''Series/ThirtyRock'', that if Palin had become VP the role would've been given to Creator/KristenWiig) made it so Fey's Palin impression didn't overstay its welcome,. Baldwin continued to play Trump throughout his entire presidency, making it all the more glaring that someone who was never a cast member was playing such an important recurring role.
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* The later seasons of ''M*A*S*H'' are widely criticized for straying too far from the show's sitcom roots and basically being a HalfHourDrama. However, while the show's early years, when it was a straight-up sitcom, are well-regarded, the show is widely regarded to have started GrowingTheBeard with Colonel Blake's death at the end of season 3. The show's middle years are often considered its best and are widely considered pioneering in the {{Dramedy}} genre, but its later years are often considered to have left comedy behind, not to mention becoming too {{Anvilicious}} and laden with {{Wangst}}.

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* The later seasons of ''M*A*S*H'' are widely criticized for straying too far from the show's sitcom roots and basically being a HalfHourDrama.DramaticHalfHour. However, while the show's early years, when it was a straight-up sitcom, are well-regarded, the show is widely regarded to have started GrowingTheBeard with Colonel Blake's death at the end of season 3. The show's middle years are often considered its best and are widely considered pioneering in the {{Dramedy}} genre, but its later years are often considered to have left comedy behind, not to mention becoming too {{Anvilicious}} and laden with {{Wangst}}.
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* The later seasons of ''M*A*S*H'' are widely criticized for straying too far from the show's sitcom roots and basically being a HalfHourDrama. However, while the show's early years, when it was a straight-up sitcom, are well-regarded, the show is widely regarded to have started GrowingTheBeard with Colonel Blake's death at the end of season 3. The show's middle years are often considered its best and are widely considered pioneering in the {{Dramedy}} genre, but its later years are often considered to have left comedy behind, not to mention becoming too {{Anvilicious}} and laden with {{Wangst}}.
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** One moment some viewers marked the show's descent into ridiculousness was in season 2 when Frank kills Zoe Barnes by pushing her in front of a train. However, ''Series/HouseOfCardsUK'' protagonist Francis Urquhart also killed a young female journalist he was having a relationship with, named Mattie Storin, by pushing her off a roof. However, unlike Frank, Francis seemed shocked by what he'd just done and was haunted by it for the rest of the series.
** With regards to Netflix, one thing that started with ''House of Cards'' that arguably turned from a strength to a weakness was the practice of releasing whole seasons of its shows at the same time instead of one new episode per week. This practice was widely hailed at the beginning as a boon to serialized storytelling and to the then-new practice of binge-watching, and a signifier of the newfound freedom from the constraints of ordinary TV that streaming was sure to provide. However, as most streaming services have gone with the old once-a-week release model while Netflix has stayed with the all-at-once model, many have said that Netflix's model has actually made TV viewing more disposable and that the old model is actually better for building and sustaining interest in TV shows.
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* One major criticism of the notorious Creator/AaronSorkin flop show ''Series/StudioSixtyOnTheSunsetStrip'' was how self-important the characters were. This was also a common criticism of Sorkin's previous show, the much more highly-acclaimed ''Series/TheWestWing'', but it was more justified because that show was set in the White House, whereas people found it glaring on ''Studio 60'' that people working at a comedy show were acting like their jobs were the important thing in the world.

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* One major criticism of the notorious Creator/AaronSorkin flop show ''Series/StudioSixtyOnTheSunsetStrip'' ''Series/Studio60OnTheSunsetStrip'' was how self-important the characters were. This was also a common criticism of Sorkin's previous show, the much more highly-acclaimed ''Series/TheWestWing'', but it there the characters' self-importance was more justified because that show was set in the White House, whereas people found it glaring on ''Studio 60'' that people working at a comedy show were acting like their jobs were the important thing in the world.
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* One major criticism of the notorious Creator/AaronSorkin flop show ''Series/StudioSixtyOnTheSunsetStrip'' was how self-important the characters were. This was also a common criticism of Sorkin's previous show, the much more highly-acclaimed ''Series/TheWestWing'', but it was more justified because that show was set in the White House, whereas people found it glaring on ''Studio 60'' that people working at a comedy show were acting like their jobs were the important thing in the world.

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