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** Similar to the bullet point up above, this doesn't pertain to a character per say, but it nonetheless applies. [[spoiler:Overhaul's Treasure is none other than Eri's Shadow -- the idea of somebody's Shadow appearing in another person's Palace isn't touched on until Shido's Palace, though Eri is a much more extreme case in that the Shadow's of those in Shido's inner circle were somehow fused with his cognitions of them while hers is his Palace's Treasure.]]

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** Similar to the bullet point up above, this doesn't pertain to a character per say, se, but it nonetheless applies. [[spoiler:Overhaul's Treasure is none other than Eri's Shadow -- the idea of somebody's Shadow appearing in another person's Palace isn't touched on until Shido's Palace, though Eri is a much more extreme case in that the Shadow's of those in Shido's inner circle were somehow fused with his cognitions of them while hers is his Palace's Treasure.]]



** Monoma and the Gentle Criminal. Both modeled themselves as a PhantomThief in the main series but considering the fame of the Phantom Thieves of Hearts, they would be seen as mooching off the fame, honoring them, or proclaim himself as a direct inspiration. Monoma's Hero Name is literally The Phantom Thief, which opened himself up to snide remarks or other responses. It's hilarious because Izuku and the rest of the team don't even know Monoma and Gentle exists yet.

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** Monoma and the Gentle Criminal. Both modeled themselves as a PhantomThief in the main series but considering the fame of the Phantom Thieves of Hearts, they would be seen as mooching off the fame, honoring them, or proclaim proclaiming himself as a direct inspiration. Monoma's Hero Name is literally The Phantom Thief, which opened himself up to snide remarks or other responses. It's hilarious because Izuku and the rest of the team don't even know Monoma and Gentle exists yet.



* ForWantOfANail:
** Izuku is never attacked by the Sludge Villain. So he never meets All Might or gains One for All. He also completely missed the U.A. Entrance Exam because of his trial for "assaulting" a drunken man who was molesting a woman, putting Izuku on probation, and forcing him to go to Tokyo. His criminal record also means that he will probably never be able to enroll in Hero school or even get employment at a Hero office while making it extremely difficult for him to become a police officer. In short, his dreams are virtually impossible to achieve now.
** Makoto is also Izuku's ChildhoodFriend and one of his closest confidants at Shujin Academy. Because of this [[spoiler:she learns about the Metaverse much earlier than she does in canon when he promises to tell her everything after Kamoshida was brought to justice.]]
** The fact that the story takes place in the world of ''My Hero Academia'' means that there are regulations against the use of Quirks similar to how the Thieves are stealing the hearts of others, doubling the legal ramifications of the gang's actions and making it more likely for them to get caught if they aren't careful. Makoto brings this fact up to Izuku while trying to convince him to give up being a Phantom Thief.
** Thanks to Recovery Girl, Shiho is able to regain consciousness faster, allowing her to speak with Ann and hear the entirety of Kamoshida's confession through Ann's phone.
** Readers have pointed out that Izuku's inability to go to U.A. would change a ton of things from canon, namely things like helping All Might regain his drive to risk his life and push the limits of One for All as a hero, saving Uraraka from the zero-point robot, allowing Todoroki to terms with his own powers, rescuing Iida from [[spoiler:Hero Killer Stain]] would have never happened without Izuku's presence. The author is aware of this and says that this is assuming that the events back in Musutafu would play out exactly as they would in canon. So far this seems to be true, as without having meet Izuku and giving him One For All, All Might had no real reason to teach at U.A., which meant that the League of Villains didn't attack the USJ.
** Izuku's status as a first-year means that he and Morgana don't go on the trip to the TV station. And as it turns out, [[spoiler:Akechi doesn't attend either, having canceled at the last minute, thus preventing him from hearing Morgana talking about pancakes and comment on it]], the fatal mistake that outed them as the traitor in ''Persona 5''.



* HeroWithBadPublicity: Following the Phantom Thieves' exploits, the Heroes and Police are under heavy scrutiny for why didn't they do anything. People question authority and thinking for themselves rather than let society, let alone Hero society dictate what they do. While it wasn't the Thieves' intention, the status quo was jeopardized, especially when a so-called 'villainous' quirk was used to force the criminals into the open.

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* HeroWithBadPublicity: Following the Phantom Thieves' exploits, the Heroes and Police are under heavy scrutiny for why didn't they do anything. People question authority and thinking think for themselves rather than let society, let alone Hero society society, dictate what they do. While it wasn't the Thieves' intention, the status quo was jeopardized, especially when a so-called 'villainous' quirk was used to force the criminals into the open.



** Ryuji learns about Izuku's criminal record shortly after they escape the Metaverse for the first time. The older teen first tries to spin it as making Izuku sound cooler, but he quickly backpedals when he realizes that he's only making things worse.

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** Ryuji learns about Izuku's criminal record shortly after they escape the Metaverse for the first time. The older teen first tries to spin it as making to make Izuku sound cooler, but he quickly backpedals when he realizes that he's only making things worse.



* PointOfDivergence:
** Izuku is never attacked by the Sludge Villain. So he never meets All Might or gains One for All. He also completely missed the U.A. Entrance Exam because of his trial for "assaulting" a drunken man who was molesting a woman, putting Izuku on probation, and forcing him to go to Tokyo. His criminal record also means that he will probably never be able to enroll in Hero school or even get employment at a Hero office, making it extremely difficult for him to become a police officer. In short, his dreams are virtually impossible to achieve now.
** Makoto is also Izuku's ChildhoodFriend and one of his closest confidants at Shujin Academy. Because of this, [[spoiler:she learns about the Metaverse much earlier than she does in canon when he promises to tell her everything after Kamoshida was brought to justice.]]
** The fact that the story takes place in the world of ''My Hero Academia'' means that there are regulations against the use of Quirks similar to how the Thieves are stealing the hearts of others, doubling the legal ramifications of the gang's actions and making it more likely for them to get caught if they aren't careful. Makoto brings this fact up to Izuku while trying to convince him to give up being a Phantom Thief.
** Thanks to Recovery Girl, Shiho is able to regain consciousness faster, allowing her to speak with Ann and hear the entirety of Kamoshida's confession through Ann's phone.
** Readers have pointed out that Izuku's inability to go to U.A. would change a ton of things from canon, namely things like helping All Might regain his drive to risk his life and push the limits of One for All as a hero, saving Uraraka from the zero-point robot, allowing Todoroki to terms with his own powers, rescuing Iida from [[spoiler:Hero Killer Stain]] would have never happened without Izuku's presence. The author is aware of this and says that this is assuming that the events back in Musutafu would play out exactly as they would in canon. So far this seems to be true, as without having met Izuku and giving him One For All, All Might had no real reason to teach at U.A., which meant that the League of Villains didn't attack the USJ.
** Izuku's status as a first-year means that he and Morgana don't go on the trip to the TV station. And as it turns out, [[spoiler:Akechi doesn't attend either, having canceled at the last minute, thus preventing him from hearing Morgana talking about pancakes and comment on it]], the fatal mistake that outed them as the traitor in ''Persona 5''.



* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Much like the source material, the Phantom Thieves are all people who are ostracized in a society that has wronged them and turns a blind eye to their pain and suffering.

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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Much like the source material, the Phantom Thieves are all people who are ostracized in a society that has wronged them and turns turned a blind eye to their pain and suffering.



* RedEyesTakeWarning: Played completely straight for Bakugou, who is still Izuku's tormentor in this story up to the point that our hero was put on trial. Completely inverted for Makoto, who is Izuku's ChildhoodFriend and one of his closest confidants. Her red eyes are one of the first things he notices after seeing her for the first time in four years. Then it's played straight when she's revealed to be a brutal hand-to-hand combatant [[spoiler:who can beat up Shadows with her Quirk]].
* RightForTheWrongReasons: The student body accurately pins the blame for Kamoshida's confession on Izuku, but they believe he did so through a hidden brainwashing Quirk rather than through the Metaverse, the former of which is the far more logical option given the world of ''My Hero Academia''.

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* RedEyesTakeWarning: RedEyesTakeWarning:
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Played completely straight for Bakugou, who is still Izuku's tormentor in this story up to the point that our hero was put on trial. trial.
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Completely inverted for Makoto, who is Izuku's ChildhoodFriend and one of his closest confidants. Her red eyes are one of the first things he notices after seeing her for the first time in four years. Then it's played straight when she's revealed to be a brutal hand-to-hand combatant [[spoiler:who can beat up Shadows with her Quirk]].
* RightForTheWrongReasons: The student body accurately pins the blame for Kamoshida's confession on Izuku, Izuku but they believe he did so through a hidden brainwashing Quirk rather than through the Metaverse, the former of which is the far more logical option given the world of ''My Hero Academia''.



* WhamLine: Chapter 35 ends with the Phantom Thieves [[spoiler:entering Overhaul's Palace,]] and they brought someone along with them. [[spoiler:Unintentionally.]]

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* WhamLine: Chapter 35 ends with the Phantom Thieves [[spoiler:entering Overhaul's Palace,]] Palace]], and they brought someone along with them. [[spoiler:Unintentionally.]]



* WhamShot: Chapter 40 finally gives readers a clear glimpse of [[spoiler:Overhaul]]'s Treasure. Its none other than [[spoiler:''Eri's own Shadow'']].

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* WhamShot: Chapter 40 finally gives readers a clear glimpse of [[spoiler:Overhaul]]'s Treasure. Its It's none other than [[spoiler:''Eri's own Shadow'']].
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It can be read on [[Website/FanfictionDotNet Fanfiction.net]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12533988/1/Thieves-Can-Be-Heroes here]] or on Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/thieves-can-be-heroes-my-hero-academia-persona-5-crossover.536773/ here]]; the first 22 chapters are also available on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/15002258/chapters/34771688 here]].

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It can be read on [[Website/FanfictionDotNet Fanfiction.net]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12533988/1/Thieves-Can-Be-Heroes here]] or on Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/thieves-can-be-heroes-my-hero-academia-persona-5-crossover.536773/ here]]; the first 22 25 chapters are also available on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/15002258/chapters/34771688 here]].
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* ImmuneToFate: Like in ''Persona 5'', Chihaya's otherwise-accurate predictions can't predict the actions of the Phantom Thieves. [[spoiler:This blindness extends to Sir Nighteye, as Overhaul's Change of Heart completely alters his vision of the future.]]

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* InSpiteOfANail: Despite Izuku refusing to go along with Ryuji and Mishima's maid scheme, he still finds out about Kawakami's second job and kicks off the Temperance Confidant.

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Despite Izuku refusing to go along with Ryuji and Mishima's maid scheme, he still finds out about Kawakami's second job and kicks off the Temperance Confidant.Confidant.
** In Chapter 42, [[spoiler:Chisaki and the Shie Hassaikai surrender to the police. Despite various factors, Eri still ends up being adopted by Aizawa due to the danger her Quirk poses]].
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This or these examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome seem to violate at least one of these rules, which disqualifies them: No character reactions (characters get angry, don't forgive, don't change their personality instantly, etc.); Too fantastical (depends on the properties of magic, powers, sci-fi tech, monsters, etc.); Not surprising (a character was warned about the outcome, it's used to provide Karma or An Aesop, or it simply follows normal conventions for this genre or medium); Plot happens (the example only describes an event, but not why audiences would expect a different, unrealistic outcome); Not an outcome (a character just explains why something wouldn't work as expected, or something is just an innate aspect of the setting or character that has a logical reason for being present); More of a Deconstruction (the event has major, lasting effects on the plot, make something more realistic, but not completely realistic, or a parody/fanwork applies realistic consequences to the events of a different work); or fits better under a different trope. See the trope's definition for more details. If you believe a removal was a mistake, please bring it up in the cleanup thread.


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Shonen series protagonist or not, a SociallyAwkwardHero like Izuku isn't going to know what to say when a girl he knows and cares about is on the verge of committing suicide. One wrong expression is all it takes to push her over the edge.
** Because Kamoshida got caught, two [[spoiler:[[DirtyCop police officers that knowingly took bribes for their silence]] are now under suspicion by their precinct as to why they didn't report something was happening. Now the two are fearful for their jobs.]] Because, obviously, one or two students would had to have the nerve to report Kamoshida's abuses to the police despite the wishes of their parents.
*** The same is true after Madarame's confession. Tsukauchi reveals that some of his former pupils went to the police to report Madarame's plagiarism and abuse, only to be either ignored or arrested for 'slander'.
*** It's mentioned that the Internal Affairs Department got involved with both cases to find any cops who were in on the take, as it is their job to uncover officers who have a conflict of interest and even subvert their duty.
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[[caption-width-right:350: "I guess thieves can be heroes, too." [[note]][[https://luffyfan1.deviantart.com/art/Thieves-Can-Be-Heroes-New-Cover-744623413 All credit for the image goes to its original owners]][[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350: "I guess thieves can be heroes, too." [[note]][[https://luffyfan1."[[note]][[https://luffyfan1.deviantart.com/art/Thieves-Can-Be-Heroes-New-Cover-744623413 All credit for the image goes to its original owners]][[/note]]]]



** Ryuji, Makoto, and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] completely avert this, as their Quirks (brief bursts of SuperSpeed, the ability to take on the properties of whatever you touch, and [[spoiler:explosions]] respectively) are very helpful in combat, and Makoto and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] in particular [[spoiler: can fight Shadows on an even footing even before getting their Personas]]. Also technically averted by Izuku, but only because he's the UnSorcerer.

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** Ryuji, Makoto, and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] completely avert this, as their Quirks (brief bursts of SuperSpeed, the ability to take on the properties of whatever you touch, and [[spoiler:explosions]] respectively) are very helpful in combat, and Makoto and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] in particular [[spoiler: can [[spoiler:can fight Shadows on an even footing even before getting their Personas]]. Also technically averted by Izuku, but only because he's the UnSorcerer.
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De-wicking The Times They Are A-Changin' fanfic, because the TV Tropes page refers to a different fic for Littlest Pet Shop 2012 with the same title.


** In [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13101006/1/The-Times-They-Are-A-Changin the first chapter]] of the fanfic ''Fanfic/TheTimesTheyAreAChangin'', a Dr. Manhattan-esque Melissa Shield refers to Thieves when mentioning an Izuku that 'steals the hearts' of criminals.

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** In [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13101006/1/The-Times-They-Are-A-Changin the first chapter]] of the fanfic ''Fanfic/TheTimesTheyAreAChangin'', ''The Times They Are A-Changin''', a Dr. Manhattan-esque Melissa Shield refers to Thieves when mentioning an Izuku that 'steals the hearts' of criminals.
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* AdultFear:
** Having your child be convicted of a crime he didn't commit and being forced to send him away while dealing with the fallout of said conviction. The stigma of said conviction also subjects him to even more torment than he already has for having a relatively rare disability.
** A well-respected school teacher turns out to be an abusive sexual predator whose actions are actively covered up by the school and the parents of the children under his thumb. Said abuse gets so bad that one student believes that the only escape is suicide.
** Teenagers being unable to trust positions of authority, including their teachers, police officers, and even their parents due to a history of abuse. This goes so far as making them resort to assault and larceny in hopes of making their lives and the lives of others better. [[spoiler:Makoto calls Izuku out on this, saying that the actions of the Thieves are no better than Villains.]]
** Your parent is stealing your hard work and creativity for profit and there's nothing you can do to speak out about it.


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* AnArmAndALeg: [[spoiler:Although they don't go through with it, when Bakugo leads the other Thieves save Izuku (who is watching over Eri's Shadow), in threatening Overhaul's defeated Shadow in order to force him to fully give up, it's suggested that they destroy his hands in order to render him functionally Quirkless]].


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** Kawakami, after seeing all of Izuku's All Might stuff, comments that she's surprised that he didn't try to go to U.A. It isn't until Izuku says that he was planning to try that she realizes that she just inadvertently rubbed his face in how his dream was crushed.


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** After beating [[spoiler:Overhaul's Shadow, the Thieves threaten to remove his hands, rendering him functionally Quirkless, in order to make him finally surrender. This is exactly what the League of Villains did to him after he was captured in canon.]]
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** Similar to the bullet point up above, this doesn't pertain to a character per say, but it nonetheless applies. [[spoiler:Overhaul's Treasure is none other than Eri's Shadow -- the idea of somebody's Shadow appearing in another person's Palace isn't touched on until Shido's Palace, though Eri is a much more extreme case in that the Shadow's of those in Shido's inner circle were somehow fused with his cognitions of them while hers is his Palace's Treasure.]]


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* WhamShot: Chapter 40 finally gives readers a clear glimpse of [[spoiler:Overhaul]]'s Treasure. Its none other than [[spoiler:''Eri's own Shadow'']].
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''Thieves Can Be Heroes!'' is a ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and ''VideoGame/Persona5'' FusionFic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3205666/Mugiwara-N0-Luffy Mugiwara N0 Luffy]]. With a Quirkless Izuku taking the place of Persona 5's protagonist, it follows his journey towards becoming a Phantom Thief and using his newfound abilities to unravel the mysteries and conspiracies in Tokyo while doing as much good as he can along the way.

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''Thieves Can Be Heroes!'' is a ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and ''VideoGame/Persona5'' FusionFic written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3205666/Mugiwara-N0-Luffy Mugiwara N0 Luffy]].Creator/MugiwaraN0Luffy. With a Quirkless Izuku taking the place of Persona 5's protagonist, it follows his journey towards becoming a Phantom Thief and using his newfound abilities to unravel the mysteries and conspiracies in Tokyo while doing as much good as he can along the way.
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* TheMultiverse: While it isn't shown in this story, the world Izuku and the Phantom Thieves is mentioned by [[PhysicalGod Melissa Shield]] in ''FanFic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'' and given the in-universe designation of Earth 2014.21 alongside the world of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy''

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* TheMultiverse: While it isn't shown in this story, the world Izuku and the Phantom Thieves is mentioned by [[PhysicalGod Melissa Shield]] in ''FanFic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'' and given the in-universe designation of Earth 2014.21 alongside the world of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy''''FanFic/AmazingFantasy''.
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It can be read on [[Website/FanfictionDotNet Fanfiction.net]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12533988/1/Thieves-Can-Be-Heroes here]] or on Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/thieves-can-be-heroes-my-hero-academia-persona-5-crossover.536773/ here]].

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It can be read on [[Website/FanfictionDotNet Fanfiction.net]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12533988/1/Thieves-Can-Be-Heroes here]] or on Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/thieves-can-be-heroes-my-hero-academia-persona-5-crossover.536773/ here]]; the first 22 chapters are also available on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/15002258/chapters/34771688 here]].
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* CruelMercy: Ann admits the teason she didn't outright kill Kamoshida's shadow was because she wanted to see him begging for forgiveness.

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* CruelMercy: Ann admits the teason reason she didn't outright kill Kamoshida's shadow was because she wanted to see thought having him begging beg for forgiveness.forgiveness would be a better revenge.
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* CruelMercy: Ann admits the teason she didn't outright kill Kamoshida's shadow was because she wanted to see him begging for forgiveness.

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** As Izuku's ChildhoodFriend, Makoto is considerably more involved in the Kamoshida chapter than she is in canon, funneling Izuku as much information as she can even as he refuses to tell her what he's been up to out of fear of dragging her down with him if things go awry. [[spoiler: She also learns about the Metaverse immediately after Kamoshida confesses, rather than after the end of the following arc.]]
** [[spoiler: Futaba]] looks on longingly at Izuku and Inko through one of her monitors in Chapter 17, rewatching the clip of them hugging over and over. All the while, she mutters about how it "must be nice" to have a loving mom and to be able to hug her.

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** As Izuku's ChildhoodFriend, Makoto is considerably more involved in the Kamoshida chapter than she is in canon, funneling Izuku as much information as she can even as he refuses to tell her what he's been up to out of fear of dragging her down with him if things go awry. [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She also learns about the Metaverse immediately after Kamoshida confesses, rather than after the end of the following arc.]]
** [[spoiler: Futaba]] [[spoiler:Futaba]] looks on longingly at Izuku and Inko through one of her monitors in Chapter 17, rewatching the clip of them hugging over and over. All the while, she mutters about how it "must be nice" to have a loving mom and to be able to hug her.



* AdultsAreUseless: Unlike U.A.'s staff, the vast majority of the adults Izuku encounters at Shujin are either indifferent to, unaware of, or wholly complicit in the students' suffering. Because of this, he can't divulge anything to the adults or rely on them for help. He also has to lie to the shop owners like Tae and Munehisa to assure them that he isn't doing anything shady.

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* AdultsAreUseless: Unlike U.A.'s staff, the vast majority of the adults Izuku encounters at Shujin are either indifferent to, unaware of, or wholly complicit in the students' suffering. Because of this, he can't divulge anything to the adults or rely on them for help. He also has to lie to the shop owners like Tae Takemi and Munehisa Iwai to assure them that he isn't doing anything shady.



** Teenagers being unable to trust positions of authority, including their teachers, police officers, and even their parents due to a history of abuse. This goes so far as making them resort to assault and larceny in hopes of making their lives and the lives of others better. [[spoiler: Makoto calls Izuku out on this, saying that the actions of the Thieves are no better than Villains.]]

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** Teenagers being unable to trust positions of authority, including their teachers, police officers, and even their parents due to a history of abuse. This goes so far as making them resort to assault and larceny in hopes of making their lives and the lives of others better. [[spoiler: Makoto [[spoiler:Makoto calls Izuku out on this, saying that the actions of the Thieves are no better than Villains.]]



* AmbitionIsEvil: Kaneshiro is described as someone with great ambitions for his own advancement. [[spoiler: As this conflicts with his boss Overhaul's plans, Overhaul kills him.]]
* UsefulNotes/AmericanAccents: Carter speaks with a slight Southern drawl due to his past as a Confederate soldier. Ryuji's speech patterns are written in a similar manner to get across his delinquent appearance, using plenty of "ain'ts" and cutting off the "g" sound in words like "getting" to form "gettin'".

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* AmbitionIsEvil: Kaneshiro is described as someone with great ambitions for his own advancement. [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As this conflicts with his boss Overhaul's plans, Overhaul kills him.]]
* UsefulNotes/AmericanAccents: Carter speaks with a slight Southern drawl due to his past as a Confederate soldier. Ryuji's speech patterns are written in a similar manner similarly to get across his delinquent appearance, using plenty of "ain'ts" and cutting off the "g" sound in words like "getting" to form "gettin'".



** After she recovers, Shiho [[spoiler: asks Mishima if she can help with the Phan-Site. She is later promoted to the Moon Confidant, sharing the role with Mishima.]]

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** After she recovers, Shiho [[spoiler: asks [[spoiler:asks Mishima if she can help with the Phan-Site. She is later promoted to the Moon Confidant, sharing the role with Mishima.]]



* BaseBreakingCharacter: InUniverse, the Phantom Thieves become this after entering the public consciousness with their change of heart of Madarame. Among the native ''My Hero Academia'' characters, Kirishima, Uraraka, Tokoyami, Ashido, Hagakure, and possibly Todoroki support the Thieves' actions while Froppy and Tsukauchi question them and Bakugou is indifferent. Ren Amamiya, who has joined Class 1-A in Izuku's place, also supports them.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: InUniverse, the Phantom Thieves become this after entering the public consciousness with their change of heart of Madarame. Among the native ''My Hero Academia'' characters, Kirishima, Uraraka, Tokoyami, Ashido, Hagakure, and possibly Todoroki support the Thieves' actions while Froppy Asui and Tsukauchi question them and Bakugou is indifferent. Ren Amamiya, who has joined Class 1-A in Izuku's place, also supports them.



* ContinuityNod: In the possibly non-canon omake, Futaba brought up [[VideoGame/Persona4ArenaUltimax Yukari's role as Feather Pink]] to Tsui and Ochako.

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* ContinuityNod: In the possibly non-canon omake, Futaba brought up [[VideoGame/Persona4ArenaUltimax Yukari's role as Feather Pink]] to Tsui Tsuyu and Ochako.



** Just because superheroes have become a reality, it doesn’t mean society’s ills have been magically cured. As shown with Kamoshida, many crimes that are not committed by Villains in broad daylight and are common in the real world still occur. Society even helps to cover up these crimes and forces the victims to keep quiet in order to save face, and heroes can do very little about that. It turns out that superheroes who respond to very public and bombastic crimes tend to overlook or not even notice smaller, quieter, and arguably worse injustices. Kamoshida gleefully lampshades this while confronting Izuku and Ryuji in his office.
--->'''Kamoshida:''' Do you see any heroes here? Anyone coming by to "save the day"? ''[swings his arms out dramatically]'' No one’s going to swoop in and save the day. Not even Heroes care about scum like you.

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** Just because superheroes have become a reality, it doesn’t doesn't mean society’s society's ills have been magically cured. As shown with Kamoshida, many crimes that are not committed by Villains in broad daylight and are common in the real world still occur. Society even helps to cover up these crimes and forces the victims to keep quiet in order to save face, and heroes can do very little about that. It turns out that superheroes who respond to very public and bombastic crimes tend to overlook or not even notice smaller, quieter, and arguably worse injustices. Kamoshida gleefully lampshades this while confronting Izuku and Ryuji in his office.
--->'''Kamoshida:''' Do you see any heroes here? Anyone coming by to "save the day"? ''[swings his arms out dramatically]'' No one’s one's going to swoop in and save the day. Not even Heroes care about scum like you.



** While police officers are shown to be [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure competent and reasonable cops]] in ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'', it does not mean that there aren’t bad cops in the mix. Two cops that patrol around the school [[spoiler:knew about Kamoshida’s true nature, [[DirtyCop but said nothing due to being paid off by Principal Kobayakawa]]]]. Just because you see some competent cops, it does not mean all of them are good.
** The [[StatusQuoIsGod very setting of My Hero Academia and attitudes towards authority]] are tackled really hard. The world of ''My Hero Academia'' can be described as a place where the public is used to trusting authority and heroes. A typical Vigilante is an amusing side-attraction that authorities don't see much care of bringing in because their actions don’t cause much trouble and there’s no real message to them; for example, the ''Illegals'' have been at it for a while in the story and have not been punished other than shooed off. While Stain's message did cause some upheaval in the main series, the Phantom Thieves' actions are tackling crimes that the Heroes and Police did little to try and solve. The Phantom Thieves showed that society really hasn't changed in spite of the Heroes' presence. By pointing out what's wrong with society and actively helping improve society, the Phantom Thieves of Hearts have the potential to be the most impactful Vigilantes in the history of the world.

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** While police officers are shown to be [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure competent and reasonable cops]] in ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'', it does not mean that there aren’t aren't bad cops in the mix. Two cops that patrol around the school [[spoiler:knew about Kamoshida’s Kamoshida's true nature, [[DirtyCop but said nothing due to being paid off by Principal Kobayakawa]]]]. Just because you see some competent cops, it does not mean all of them are good.
** The [[StatusQuoIsGod very setting of My Hero Academia and attitudes towards authority]] are tackled really hard. The world of ''My Hero Academia'' can be described as a place where the public is used to trusting authority and heroes. A typical Vigilante is an amusing side-attraction that authorities don't see much care of bringing in because their actions don’t don't cause much trouble and there’s there's no real message to them; for example, the ''Illegals'' have been at it for a while in the story and have not been punished other than shooed off. While Stain's message did cause some upheaval in the main series, the Phantom Thieves' actions are tackling crimes that the Heroes and Police did little to try and solve. The Phantom Thieves showed that society really hasn't changed in spite of despite the Heroes' presence. By pointing out what's wrong with society and actively helping improve society, the Phantom Thieves of Hearts have the potential to be the most impactful Vigilantes in the history of the world.



** Junya Kaneshiro [[spoiler: is brutally killed by Overhaul in his first appearance]].
** The author's notes for Chapter 30 mention that Kasumi Yoshizawa will be spending her introduction on the sidelines and probably won't become more important until ''Persona 5 Royal'' actually releases.

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** Junya Kaneshiro [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is brutally killed by Overhaul in his first appearance]].
** The author's notes for Chapter 30 mention that Kasumi Yoshizawa will be spending her introduction on the sidelines and probably won't become more important until after ''Persona 5 Royal'' actually releases.



-->'''Izuku:''' A-alright then. I’ll see you later, Saka-a-I mean-uh R-Ryuji-senpa-er-\\

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-->'''Izuku:''' A-alright then. I’ll I'll see you later, Saka-a-I mean-uh R-Ryuji-senpa-er-\\



* {{Foil}}: Carter to Arsene. Carter is a porcelain-white BoisterousBruiser with a HeroicBuild, [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold golden hair and a heart to match]]. He's based on the pulp fiction ActionHero of an American science fiction novel and comic series from the early 1900s. His abilities are based around using brute force, [[HeroesPreferSwords a sword]], and the [[LightEmUp Kouha]] line of spells to deal Bless-damage. He promises to throw off Izuku's chains and let him become the Hero he always wanted to be and speaks with a slight drawl. Though [[GoodIsNotNice Carter encourages Izuku to more or less save people by force]] [[ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike even if they don't want it]]. By contrast, Arsene is a AntiHero {{Picaresque}} GentlemanThief from France dressed almost entirely in black and red with a permanent CheshireCatGrin and an [[LeanAndMean unusually slim figure]]. He promises to grant Ren power even if it means chaining him down to Hell and empowers the thief to perform sacrilegious acts in the name of Ren's own sense of justice. He also speaks in refined, Victorian-era diction.

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* {{Foil}}: Carter to Arsene.Arsène. Carter is a porcelain-white BoisterousBruiser with a HeroicBuild, [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold golden hair and a heart to match]]. He's based on the pulp fiction ActionHero of an American science fiction novel and comic series from the early 1900s. His abilities are based around using brute force, [[HeroesPreferSwords a sword]], and the [[LightEmUp Kouha]] line of spells to deal Bless-damage. He promises to throw off Izuku's chains and let him become the Hero he always wanted to be and speaks with a slight drawl. Though [[GoodIsNotNice Carter encourages Izuku to more or less save people by force]] [[ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike even if they don't want it]]. By contrast, Arsene Arsène is a an AntiHero {{Picaresque}} GentlemanThief from France dressed almost entirely in black and red with a permanent CheshireCatGrin and an [[LeanAndMean unusually slim figure]]. He promises to grant Ren power even if it means chaining him down to Hell and empowers the thief to perform sacrilegious acts in the name of Ren's own sense of justice. He also speaks in refined, Victorian-era diction.



** Izuku is never attacked by the Sludge Villain. So he never meets All Might or gains One for All. He also completely missed the U.A. Entrance Exam because of his trial for "assaulting" a drunken man who was molesting a woman, putting Izuku on probation and forcing him to go to Tokyo. His criminal record also means that he will probably never be able to enroll in Hero school or even get employment at a Hero office while making it extremely difficult for him to become a police officer. In short, his dreams are virtually impossible to achieve now.

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** Izuku is never attacked by the Sludge Villain. So he never meets All Might or gains One for All. He also completely missed the U.A. Entrance Exam because of his trial for "assaulting" a drunken man who was molesting a woman, putting Izuku on probation probation, and forcing him to go to Tokyo. His criminal record also means that he will probably never be able to enroll in Hero school or even get employment at a Hero office while making it extremely difficult for him to become a police officer. In short, his dreams are virtually impossible to achieve now.



** Readers have pointed out that Izuku's inability to go to U.A. would change a ton of things from canon, namely things like helping All Might regain his drive to risk his life and push the the limits of One for All as a hero, saving Uraraka from the zero-point robot, allowing Todoroki to terms with his own powers, rescuing Iida from [[spoiler:Hero Killer Stain]] would have never happened without Izuku's presence. The author is aware of this and says that this is assuming that the events back in Musutafu would play out exactly as they would in canon. So far this seems to be true, as without having meet Izuku and giving him One For All, All Might had no real reason to teach at U.A., which meant that the League of Villains didn't attack the USJ.
** Izuku's status as a first year means that he and Morgana don't go on the trip to the TV station. And as it turns out, [[spoiler:Akechi doesn't attend either, having canceled at the last minute, thus preventing him from hearing Morgana talking about pancakes and comment on it]], the fatal mistake that outed them as the traitor in ''Persona 5''.

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** Readers have pointed out that Izuku's inability to go to U.A. would change a ton of things from canon, namely things like helping All Might regain his drive to risk his life and push the the limits of One for All as a hero, saving Uraraka from the zero-point robot, allowing Todoroki to terms with his own powers, rescuing Iida from [[spoiler:Hero Killer Stain]] would have never happened without Izuku's presence. The author is aware of this and says that this is assuming that the events back in Musutafu would play out exactly as they would in canon. So far this seems to be true, as without having meet Izuku and giving him One For All, All Might had no real reason to teach at U.A., which meant that the League of Villains didn't attack the USJ.
** Izuku's status as a first year first-year means that he and Morgana don't go on the trip to the TV station. And as it turns out, [[spoiler:Akechi doesn't attend either, having canceled at the last minute, thus preventing him from hearing Morgana talking about pancakes and comment on it]], the fatal mistake that outed them as the traitor in ''Persona 5''.



* HeroWithBadPublicity: Following the Phantom Thieves' exploits, the Heroes and Police are under heavy scrutiny for why didn't they do anything. People question authority and thinking for themselves rather than let society, let alone Hero society dictate what they do. While it wasn't the Thieves' intention, the status quo was jeopardized, especially when a so-called 'villianous' quirk was used to force the criminals into the open.

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* HeroWithBadPublicity: Following the Phantom Thieves' exploits, the Heroes and Police are under heavy scrutiny for why didn't they do anything. People question authority and thinking for themselves rather than let society, let alone Hero society dictate what they do. While it wasn't the Thieves' intention, the status quo was jeopardized, especially when a so-called 'villianous' 'villainous' quirk was used to force the criminals into the open.



* TheMultiverse: While it isn’t shown in this story, the world Izuku and the Phantom Thieves is mentioned by [[PhysicalGod Melissa Shield]] in ''FanFic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'' and given the in-universe designation of Earth 2014.21 alongside the world of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy''

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* TheMultiverse: While it isn’t isn't shown in this story, the world Izuku and the Phantom Thieves is mentioned by [[PhysicalGod Melissa Shield]] in ''FanFic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'' and given the in-universe designation of Earth 2014.21 alongside the world of ''FanFic/AmazingFantasy''



** When the gang begins losing against Kamoshida's Shadow, Izuku begins losing hope and considers a HeroicSacrifice to buy time for the others to escape. Carter quickly calls him out on this, telling Izuku that the other Thieves are just as willing to die for him as he is for them and that being a hero was never about whether he could do it or not, which were the words All Might said to Izuku and he in turn said to Muscular in canon.

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** When the gang begins losing against Kamoshida's Shadow, Izuku begins losing hope and considers a HeroicSacrifice to buy time for the others to escape. Carter quickly calls him out on this, telling Izuku that the other Thieves are just as willing to die for him as he is for them and that being a hero was never about whether he could do it or not, which were the words All Might said to Izuku and he he, in turn turn, said to Muscular in canon.



* NeverSplitTheParty: Nitro suggests the gang split up to cover more ground in [[spoiler:Overhaul's Palace]], but gets vetoed by Izuku, who points out that they don't have enough manpower to safely divide up the party. Unfortunately, it gets taken out of their hands when [[spoiler:Chisaki's Cognition of Mimic takes matters into its own hands and forcibly manipulates the structure of the Palace to divide them.]]

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* NeverSplitTheParty: Nitro suggests the gang split up to cover more ground in [[spoiler:Overhaul's Palace]], Palace]] but gets vetoed by Izuku, who points out that they don't have enough manpower to safely divide up the party. Unfortunately, it gets taken out of their hands when [[spoiler:Chisaki's Cognition of Mimic takes matters into its own hands and forcibly manipulates the structure of the Palace to divide them.]]



** The first time Bakugou encounters Izuku after his arrest, he expresses something akin to concern for him, and notes how odd it is that Izuku was hit with a criminal record for a relatively minor incident.

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** The first time Bakugou encounters Izuku after his arrest, he expresses something akin to concern for him, him and notes how odd it is that Izuku was hit with a criminal record for a relatively minor incident.



* PummelDuel: Queen is able to temporarily trade blows with [[spoiler:a Cognition of Rappa throwing his punches at full speed thanks to her Absorption Quirck]].

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* PummelDuel: Queen is able to temporarily trade blows with [[spoiler:a Cognition of Rappa throwing his punches at full speed thanks to her Absorption Quirck]].Quirk]].



** There's a meta reference in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12829659/3/Persona-Vein Ch. 3]] of a crossover called ''Fanfic/PersonaVein'', where the characters mentioned a fanfic about the Phantom Thieves meeting Deku.
** In [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13101006/1/The-Times-They-Are-A-Changin the first chapter]] of the fanfic ''Fanfic/TheTimesTheyAreAChangin'', a Dr. Manhattan-esque Melissa Shield makes a reference to Thieves when mentioning an Izuku that 'steals the hearts' of criminals.
* * SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:

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** There's a meta reference meta-reference in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12829659/3/Persona-Vein Ch. 3]] of a crossover called ''Fanfic/PersonaVein'', where the characters mentioned a fanfic about the Phantom Thieves meeting Deku.
** In [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13101006/1/The-Times-They-Are-A-Changin the first chapter]] of the fanfic ''Fanfic/TheTimesTheyAreAChangin'', a Dr. Manhattan-esque Melissa Shield makes a reference refers to Thieves when mentioning an Izuku that 'steals the hearts' of criminals.
* * SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:



** Due to the fact that Kamoshida got caught, two [[spoiler:[[DirtyCop police officers that knowingly took bribes for their silence]] are now under suspicion by their precinct as to why they didn’t report something was happening. Now the two are fearful for their jobs.]] Because, obviously, one or two students would had to have the nerve to report Kamoshida’s abuses to the police despite the wishes of their parents.

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** Due to the fact that Because Kamoshida got caught, two [[spoiler:[[DirtyCop police officers that knowingly took bribes for their silence]] are now under suspicion by their precinct as to why they didn’t didn't report something was happening. Now the two are fearful for their jobs.]] Because, obviously, one or two students would had to have the nerve to report Kamoshida’s Kamoshida's abuses to the police despite the wishes of their parents.



*** It’s mentioned that the Internal Affairs Department got involved with both cases to find any cops who were in on the take, as it is their job to uncover officers who have a conflict of interest and even subvert their duty.

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*** It’s It's mentioned that the Internal Affairs Department got involved with both cases to find any cops who were in on the take, as it is their job to uncover officers who have a conflict of interest and even subvert their duty.



** Ryuji, Makoto, and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] completely avert this, as their Quirks (brief bursts of SuperSpeed, the ability to take on the properties of whatever you touch, and [[spoiler:explosions]] respectively) are very helpful in combat, and Makoto and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] in particular [[spoiler:are able to fight Shadows on an even footing even before getting their Personas]]. Also technically averted by Izuku, but only because he's the UnSorcerer.

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** Ryuji, Makoto, and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] completely avert this, as their Quirks (brief bursts of SuperSpeed, the ability to take on the properties of whatever you touch, and [[spoiler:explosions]] respectively) are very helpful in combat, and Makoto and [[spoiler:Bakugou]] in particular [[spoiler:are able to [[spoiler: can fight Shadows on an even footing even before getting their Personas]]. Also technically averted by Izuku, but only because he's the UnSorcerer.



* WrongContextMagic: Authorities and citizens believe the Phantom Thieves use Quirks to 'change hearts'. It's reasonable, given the world they live in and obviously not many know that supernatural powers like Personas existed for much longer than Quirks. Because of this and what entails in the world of Persona, the world of Heroes had no idea how the Phantom Thieves manage to change the 'hearts' of their targets and would react with fear that these vigilantes can change 'hearts' without being nearby.
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* WrongContextMagic: Authorities and citizens believe the Phantom Thieves use Quirks to 'change hearts'. It's reasonable, given the world they live in in, and obviously not many know that supernatural powers like Personas existed for much longer than Quirks. Because of this and what entails in the world of Persona, the world of Heroes had no idea how the Phantom Thieves manage to change the 'hearts' of their targets and would react with fear that these vigilantes can change 'hearts' without being nearby.
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* PummelDuel: Queen is able to temporarily trade blows with [[spoiler:a Cognition of Rappa throwing his punches at full speed thanks to her Absorption Quirck]].



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