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* AlliterativeFamily: Sisters Maybonne and Marlys, and their mother Mavis.
** Siblings Arna and Arnold Arneson.
** Siblings Arna and Arnold Arneson.
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* {{Bookworm}}: Marlys loves reading.
* BrattyTeenageDaughter: Maybonne. In some issues she's given more POV, while in others she fits the standard exterior view of the teenage daughter. Regardless, she's the oldest in the family and is a boy-crazy, mildly rebellious girl who frequently fights with her mother over phone usage and the ability to see her friends. This contrasts with the more bookish and quirky younger sister Marlys.
* BreakingTheFourthWall: Marlys regularly talks to the readers.
* CoolBigSis: Maybonne in her nicer moments and when the girls were younger.
* BrattyTeenageDaughter: Maybonne. In some issues she's given more POV, while in others she fits the standard exterior view of the teenage daughter. Regardless, she's the oldest in the family and is a boy-crazy, mildly rebellious girl who frequently fights with her mother over phone usage and the ability to see her friends. This contrasts with the more bookish and quirky younger sister Marlys.
* BreakingTheFourthWall: Marlys regularly talks to the readers.
* CoolBigSis: Maybonne in her nicer moments and when the girls were younger.
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: Marlys regularly talks to the readers.
* CoolBigSis: Maybonne in her nicer moments and when the girls were younger.
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* DisappearedDad: Maybonne and Marlys' parents are divorced, and their father is in and out of their life.
** Arna and Arnold’s father is around, but he’s rarely shown in the comics.
** Arna and Arnold’s father is around, but he’s rarely shown in the comics.
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* IWasQuiteALooker: Mavis is drawn with the same ugly features as most of the adults, but an old family photo shows that she was once very beautiful.
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* IWasQuiteALooker: Mavis is drawn with the same ugly features as most of the adults, but an IWasQuiteALooker:
** Marlys and Maybonne’s mother frequently talks about how beautiful she once was and that she got many marriage proposals. An old familyphoto picture shows that she was once very beautiful.wasn’t exaggerating. Nowadays, she is a {{Gonk}} like most of the adults are drawn in the comic.
** Marlys and Maybonne’s mother frequently talks about how beautiful she once was and that she got many marriage proposals. An old family
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* MyNaymeIs: Barry changed her name from ''Linda'' to ''Lynda'' as a teen.
* OnlySaneMan: Marlys. Arnold thinks he is.
* ParentalAbandonment: Mavis leaves the girls with their grandmother for a period of time.
* OnlySaneMan: Marlys. Arnold thinks he is.
* ParentalAbandonment: Mavis leaves the girls with their grandmother for a period of time.
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* MyNaymeIs: Barry changed her name from ''Linda'' to ''Lynda'' as a teen.
teenager.
*OnlySaneMan: Marlys. Arnold thinks he is.
* ParentalAbandonment: Mavis leavesParentalAbandonment:
** The storyline “My Perfect Life” details Maybonne and Marly’s mother abandoning the girls with their grandmother for several months. Although she later returns, her abandonment leaves aperiod of time.mark on Maybonne.
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* ParentalAbandonment: Mavis leaves
** The storyline “My Perfect Life” details Maybonne and Marly’s mother abandoning the girls with their grandmother for several months. Although she later returns, her abandonment leaves a
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* WhereTheHellIsSpringfield: The city where Marlys and Maybonne live is never named, but it’s modeled on the creator’s hometown of Seattle, Washington.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Freddie is…not right in the head.
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Lynda Barry is an American cartoonist of the UndergroundComics and AlternativeComics movements. Active from the late [[TheSeventies 70's]] to TheNewTens, Barry is one of the [[TheSmurfettePrinciple only notable women]] of UndergroundComics. Most of her work was published as ''Ernie Pook’s Comeek'' (''Pook'' rhyming with ''book''), a serial in alternative weeklies, but have since been collected into books. Barry has essentially retired from cartooning and now works as a creative writing instructor; her most recent works are non-fiction about the creative process.
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Lynda Barry is an American cartoonist of the UndergroundComics and AlternativeComics movements. Active from the late [[TheSeventies 70's]] to TheNewTens, Barry is one of the [[TheSmurfettePrinciple only few notable women]] women of UndergroundComics. Most of her work was published as ''Ernie Pook’s Comeek'' (''Pook'' rhyming with ''book''), a serial in alternative weeklies, but have since been collected into books. Barry has essentially retired from cartooning and now works as a creative writing instructor; her most recent works are non-fiction about the creative process.
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* TrashyTrailerPark: Mavis moves the girls into one of these after “finding God”. It’s not completely terrible, but the police are regularly there, it’s next to a graveyard and the last occupants of the family’s lot may or may not have killed their husband/father.
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* TrashyTrailerPark: TrashyTrailerHome: Mavis moves the girls into one of these after “finding God”. It’s not completely terrible, but the police are regularly there, it’s next to a graveyard and the last occupants of the family’s lot may or may not have killed their husband/father.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Freddie is…not right in the head.
** Arnold is obsessed with violence to an unhealthy degree.
** Arnold is obsessed with violence to an unhealthy degree.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The comics are mainly set in the 1960s, and aren’t sugarcoated: the kids and teens are neglected and end up getting into trouble regularly, EveryoneSmokes, homophobia is common with Marlys and Maybonne’s gay uncle getting a rock thrown at his head and the police shrugging it off, and fathers are pretty nonexistent in their families lives.
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* BreakingTheFourthWall: Marlys regularly talks to the readers.
* CoolBigSis: Maybonne in her nicer moments and when the girls were younger.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The comics are mainly set in the 1960s, and aren’t sugarcoated: the kids and teens are neglected and end up getting into trouble regularly,EveryoneSmokes, pretty much everyone over the age of 12 smokes, homophobia is common with Marlys and Maybonne’s gay uncle getting a rock thrown at his head and the police shrugging it off, and fathers are pretty nonexistent in their families lives.
* CoolBigSis: Maybonne in her nicer moments and when the girls were younger.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The comics are mainly set in the 1960s, and aren’t sugarcoated: the kids and teens are neglected and end up getting into trouble regularly,
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* FreeRangeChildren: All of the kids run around their unnamed city with no adult supervision. Unfortunately, this results in them getting into borderline criminal troubles.
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** Arna’s mother dumps her on Mavis for about a month, packing her things and leaving her there on the doorstep with a note. It’s never explained why.
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* TrashyTrailerPark: Mavis moves the girls into one of these after “finding God”. It’s not completely terrible, but the police are regularly there, it’s next to a graveyard and the last occupants of the family’s lot may or may not have killed their husband/father.
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* WhereTheHellIsSpringfield: The city where Marlys and Maybonne live is never named, but it’s modeled on the creator’s hometown of Seattle, Washington.
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* TheAlcoholic: Maybonne and Marlys' father is an alcoholic, which implied to be a cause of much of the familial strife. One arc has him going into recovery and entering his children's life, then relapsing and leaving again.
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* TheAlcoholic: AlcoholicParent: Maybonne and Marlys' father is an alcoholic, which implied to be a cause of much of the familial strife. One arc has him going into recovery and entering his children's life, then relapsing and leaving again.
** Siblings Arna and Arnold Arneson.
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* Bookworm: Marlys loves reading
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* Bookworm: {{Bookworm}}: Marlys loves readingreading.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The comics are mainly set in the 1960s, and aren’t sugarcoated: the kids and teens are neglected and end up getting into trouble regularly, EveryoneSmokes, homophobia is common with Marlys and Maybonne’s gay uncle getting a rock thrown at his head and the police shrugging it off, and fathers are pretty nonexistent in their families lives.
** Arna and Arnold’s father is around, but he’s rarely shown in the comics.
* IWasQuiteALooker: Mavis is drawn with the same ugly features as most of the adults, but an old family photo shows that she was once very beautiful.
** An elderly couple who live by Arna and Arnold are shown to be very good looking when they were young.
** An elderly couple who live by Arna and Arnold are shown to be very good looking when they were young.
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* ParentalIncest: Maybonne's friend Cheryl's father molests her, and does it front of Maybonne.
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* OnlySaneMan: Marlys. Arnold thinks he is.
* ParentalAbandonment: Mavis leaves the girls with their grandmother for a period of time.
* ParentalIncest: Maybonne's friendCheryl's Brenda's father molests her, and does it front of Maybonne.
* ParentalAbandonment: Mavis leaves the girls with their grandmother for a period of time.
* ParentalIncest: Maybonne's friend
* ResentfulGuardian: It’s heavily implied that Mavis regrets having kids and takes it out on Maybonne and Marlys.
* TheSixties: Marlys’s stories take place in the mid to late 1960’s.
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* UnusualEuphemism: In one strip, Brenda refers to an "F.U. and an Elvis", some sort of sexual act, being forced on her. The euphemism use serves as an in-universe ParentalBonus, as she's getting the message to Maybonne via her little sister Marlys, who doesn't know what those things are.
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* UnusualEuphemism: In one strip, Brenda refers to an "F.U. and an Elvis", some sort of sexual act, being forced on her. The euphemism use serves as an in-universe ParentalBonus, as she's getting the message to Maybonne via her little sister Marlys, who doesn't know what those things are.are.
* UsedToBeASweetKid: Maybonne used to be a lot like Marlys, plucky and creative. But after puberty and becoming more aware of her life, she became more cynical.
* WorkingClassHero: The entire cast, as well as Lynda’s autobiographical comics.
* UsedToBeASweetKid: Maybonne used to be a lot like Marlys, plucky and creative. But after puberty and becoming more aware of her life, she became more cynical.
* WorkingClassHero: The entire cast, as well as Lynda’s autobiographical comics.
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* TroubledTeen: Maybonne is a classic example. In various stories, she runs away from home, uses drugs and alcohol as a 14-year-old, and gets in a lot of bad relationships involving QuestionableConsent. Her friends behave similarly. This is explained by her home life, as she has a DisappearedDad and a mother who is cold, unloving, and often not around.
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* {{Gonk}}: Many of Barry's older comics feature people with huge angry mouths, stylized hair, and generally distorte features.
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* {{Gonk}}: Many of Barry's older comics feature people with huge angry mouths, stylized hair, and generally distorte distorted features.
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* AdultsAreUseless: None of the children ever go to adults for help for their issues, and the adults around generally don't do anything other than punish the kids, even when the kids are facing serious issues such as sexual assault, drug abuse, and serious mental issues. Teachers are almost always SadistTeacher{{s}} who have it out to get the child characters.
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* AdultsAreUseless: None of the children ever go to adults for help for their issues, and the adults around generally don't do anything other than punish the kids, even when the kids are facing serious issues such as sexual assault, drug abuse, and serious mental issues. Teachers are almost always SadistTeacher{{s}} {{Sadist Teacher}}s who have it out to get the child characters.
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* AllMenArePerverts: A theme in Barry's older comics is men who seem only interested in sex. One comic features two male friends having a conversation that consists only of grunts and SexualEuphemism{{s}}. Many of the men in her later comics are somewhat predatory.
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* AllMenArePerverts: A theme in Barry's older comics is men who seem only interested in sex. One comic features two male friends having a conversation that consists only of grunts and SexualEuphemism{{s}}.{{Sexual Euphemism}}s. Many of the men in her later comics are somewhat predatory.
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* DysfunctionJunction: In some of the stories. Maybonne and Marlys's mother is borderline abusive, Maybonne (and many of her friends) do drugs, get sexually assaulted, and run away from home, and Freddie has trouble in school and hangs out with a bad crowd. Marlys is relatively well-adjusted, but everything else going on her needs and wants are often ignored.
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* DysfunctionJunction: In some of the stories. Maybonne and Marlys's mother is borderline abusive, Maybonne (and many of her friends) do drugs, get sexually assaulted, and run away from home, and Freddie has trouble in school and hangs out with a bad crowd. Marlys is relatively well-adjusted, but with everything else going on her needs and wants are often ignored.
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* UnusualEuphemism: In one strip, Brenda refers to an "F.U. and an Elvis", some sort of sexual act, being forced on her. The euphemism use serves as an in-universe ParentalBonus, as she's getting the message to Maybonne via her little sister Marlys, who doesn't know what those things are.
* UnusualEuphemism: In one strip, Brenda refers to an "F.U. and an Elvis", some sort of sexual act, being forced on her. The euphemism use serves as an in-universe ParentalBonus, as she's getting the message to Maybonne via her little sister Marlys, who doesn't know what those things are.
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* ArtShift: Barry's style started out as two-dimensional, exaggerated and almost cubist, but transitioned to a more realistic style as her subject matter transitioned to childhood.
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* ArtShift: ArtEvolution: Barry's style started out as two-dimensional, exaggerated and almost cubist, but transitioned to a more realistic style as her subject matter transitioned to childhood.childhood.
* ArtShift: Her strips that deal with serious topics such as sexual assault are drawn in a more realistic style, compared to more lighthearted strips which are more cartoony.
* ArtShift: Her strips that deal with serious topics such as sexual assault are drawn in a more realistic style, compared to more lighthearted strips which are more cartoony.
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* BrattyTeenageDaughter: Maybonne. In some issues she's given more POV, while in others she fits the standard exterior view of the teenage daughter. Regardless, she's the oldest in the family and is a boy-crazy, mildly rebellious girl who frequently fights with her mother over phone usage and the ability to see her friends. This contrasts with the more bookish and quirky younger sister Marlys.
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* EnterStageWindow: In one of the Maybonne stories, her friend Brenda enters her window after running away from home.
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[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lynda_barry_self.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:350:Self-portrait]]
Lynda Barry is an American cartoonist of the UndergroundComics and AlternativeComics movements. Active from the late [[TheSeventies 70's]] to TheNewTens, Barry is one of the [[TheSmurfettePrinciple only notable women]] of UndergroundComics. Most of her work was published as ''Ernie Pook’s Comeek'' (''Pook'' rhyming with ''book''), a serial in alternative weeklies, but have since been collected into books. Barry has essentially retired from cartooning and now works as a creative writing instructor; her most recent works are non-fiction about the creative process.
Barry's comics often draw from her life experiences growing up in a working-class, racially mixed neighborhood of Seattle. Barry's father was of Irish descent, her mother was of Filipino, and she had a difficult childhood raised primarily by her mother. Her comics contain themes on sex, relationships, childhood, loss of innocence, and fears, childhood or otherwise. Her earlier work was more episodic, focused on adult relationships. Over time her work became more serial, focusing on the semi-autobiographical adventures of a particular family: Maybonne, the rebellious teen sister, Marlys, the cheerful bookish younger sister, and Freddie, their emotionally disturbed cousin who visits from time to time, with cameos from other family members.
Barry is friends with Creator/MattGroening, another underground cartoonist from the Pacific Northwest.
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!!Tropes present in her comics
* AdultsAreUseless: None of the children ever go to adults for help for their issues, and the adults around generally don't do anything other than punish the kids, even when the kids are facing serious issues such as sexual assault, drug abuse, and serious mental issues. Teachers are almost always SadistTeacher{{s}} who have it out to get the child characters.
* TheAlcoholic: Maybonne and Marlys' father is an alcoholic, which implied to be a cause of much of the familial strife. One arc has him going into recovery and entering his children's life, then relapsing and leaving again.
* AlliterativeFamily: Sisters Maybonne and Marlys, and their mother Mavis.
* AllMenArePerverts: A theme in Barry's older comics is men who seem only interested in sex. One comic features two male friends having a conversation that consists only of grunts and SexualEuphemism{{s}}. Many of the men in her later comics are somewhat predatory.
* AmbiguouslyGay: Freddie. He is the target of homophobic bullying, and is implied to have been involved in a grey-consenting sexual act with another boy at school. But given his young age and generally confused mental state, it's hard to say for sure.
* ArtShift: Barry's style started out as two-dimensional, exaggerated and almost cubist, but transitioned to a more realistic style as her subject matter transitioned to childhood.
* BiggerIsBetterInBed: One comic that parodies Cosmo-style "what do you want in your man" quizzes has "I want a man with a big one" as an option for every question, as apparently this is an important priority for some women.
* BigRedDevil: Satan, the big goat-man with horns, red skin, and a pitchfork, makes an appearance in some of the strips in ''Bad Ideas''.
* Bookworm: Marlys loves reading
* DisappearedDad: Maybonne and Marlys' parents are divorced, and their father is in and out of their life.
* DysfunctionJunction: In some of the stories. Maybonne and Marlys's mother is borderline abusive, Maybonne (and many of her friends) do drugs, get sexually assaulted, and run away from home, and Freddie has trouble in school and hangs out with a bad crowd. Marlys is relatively well-adjusted, but everything else going on her needs and wants are often ignored.
* DysfunctionalFamily: Mom is generally too busy working/hanging out with her friends to pay too much attention to her kids, and Maybonne and Freddie get into all kinds of trouble in and out of school. The kids are frequently shuttled around between family members.
* GrowingUpSucks: 13-year-old Maybonne has to deal with a lot of problems related to puberty, such as female infighting, angst about appearance, and sexually threatening men.
* {{Gonk}}: Many of Barry's older comics feature people with huge angry mouths, stylized hair, and generally distorte features.
%%* GoGetterGirl: Marlys
* MyNaymeIs: Barry changed her name from ''Linda'' to ''Lynda'' as a teen.
* ParentalIncest: Maybonne's friend Cheryl's father molests her, and does it front of Maybonne.
* PluckyGirl: Marlys. She does a lot of work to keep her family together, and despite a lot of family dysfunction is always cheerful and perky.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Self-portrait]]
Lynda Barry is an American cartoonist of the UndergroundComics and AlternativeComics movements. Active from the late [[TheSeventies 70's]] to TheNewTens, Barry is one of the [[TheSmurfettePrinciple only notable women]] of UndergroundComics. Most of her work was published as ''Ernie Pook’s Comeek'' (''Pook'' rhyming with ''book''), a serial in alternative weeklies, but have since been collected into books. Barry has essentially retired from cartooning and now works as a creative writing instructor; her most recent works are non-fiction about the creative process.
Barry's comics often draw from her life experiences growing up in a working-class, racially mixed neighborhood of Seattle. Barry's father was of Irish descent, her mother was of Filipino, and she had a difficult childhood raised primarily by her mother. Her comics contain themes on sex, relationships, childhood, loss of innocence, and fears, childhood or otherwise. Her earlier work was more episodic, focused on adult relationships. Over time her work became more serial, focusing on the semi-autobiographical adventures of a particular family: Maybonne, the rebellious teen sister, Marlys, the cheerful bookish younger sister, and Freddie, their emotionally disturbed cousin who visits from time to time, with cameos from other family members.
Barry is friends with Creator/MattGroening, another underground cartoonist from the Pacific Northwest.
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!!Tropes present in her comics
* AdultsAreUseless: None of the children ever go to adults for help for their issues, and the adults around generally don't do anything other than punish the kids, even when the kids are facing serious issues such as sexual assault, drug abuse, and serious mental issues. Teachers are almost always SadistTeacher{{s}} who have it out to get the child characters.
* TheAlcoholic: Maybonne and Marlys' father is an alcoholic, which implied to be a cause of much of the familial strife. One arc has him going into recovery and entering his children's life, then relapsing and leaving again.
* AlliterativeFamily: Sisters Maybonne and Marlys, and their mother Mavis.
* AllMenArePerverts: A theme in Barry's older comics is men who seem only interested in sex. One comic features two male friends having a conversation that consists only of grunts and SexualEuphemism{{s}}. Many of the men in her later comics are somewhat predatory.
* AmbiguouslyGay: Freddie. He is the target of homophobic bullying, and is implied to have been involved in a grey-consenting sexual act with another boy at school. But given his young age and generally confused mental state, it's hard to say for sure.
* ArtShift: Barry's style started out as two-dimensional, exaggerated and almost cubist, but transitioned to a more realistic style as her subject matter transitioned to childhood.
* BiggerIsBetterInBed: One comic that parodies Cosmo-style "what do you want in your man" quizzes has "I want a man with a big one" as an option for every question, as apparently this is an important priority for some women.
* BigRedDevil: Satan, the big goat-man with horns, red skin, and a pitchfork, makes an appearance in some of the strips in ''Bad Ideas''.
* Bookworm: Marlys loves reading
* DisappearedDad: Maybonne and Marlys' parents are divorced, and their father is in and out of their life.
* DysfunctionJunction: In some of the stories. Maybonne and Marlys's mother is borderline abusive, Maybonne (and many of her friends) do drugs, get sexually assaulted, and run away from home, and Freddie has trouble in school and hangs out with a bad crowd. Marlys is relatively well-adjusted, but everything else going on her needs and wants are often ignored.
* DysfunctionalFamily: Mom is generally too busy working/hanging out with her friends to pay too much attention to her kids, and Maybonne and Freddie get into all kinds of trouble in and out of school. The kids are frequently shuttled around between family members.
* GrowingUpSucks: 13-year-old Maybonne has to deal with a lot of problems related to puberty, such as female infighting, angst about appearance, and sexually threatening men.
* {{Gonk}}: Many of Barry's older comics feature people with huge angry mouths, stylized hair, and generally distorte features.
%%* GoGetterGirl: Marlys
* MyNaymeIs: Barry changed her name from ''Linda'' to ''Lynda'' as a teen.
* ParentalIncest: Maybonne's friend Cheryl's father molests her, and does it front of Maybonne.
* PluckyGirl: Marlys. She does a lot of work to keep her family together, and despite a lot of family dysfunction is always cheerful and perky.
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